Lumix GH7 vs S5iiX Which is Better for Video? 

GH7，cause i am a GH5 USER！

I’ll be getting a gH7 I’m also a S5iix new user. Will be selling my gh6. Can’t let go of my MFT system it offers too much. I’d still choose it over my FF system. Other then HDR and lowlight I feel MFT wins pretty much every where else. Besides blurry background. But I use metabones so I’m good in that regard. 😊

I just got an S5IIX , I also have 2 Fuji APS-C cameras. I always get comments like ." Nothing compares to full frame ", two different cameras, full frame is for professional work anything smaller is for hobbyists.

Bla bla i do pro work with mft, i get paid. Eho is the hobbyist?​@@TwoTimesRmedia

Gh7.I have the mft line up.

Is there much of a difference between dual iso and dual output gain? Is that not the same technology only being used in different ways? I thought a dual gain or dual iso as they’re used interchangeably meant there are 2 optimised gain levels, in the S5 cameras you can use those 2 at the different levels to maintain dynamic range and noise performance even at the higher iso. In the Gh7 it takes the 2 levels reads them both and combines it, like in an arri or C70. Could it not be possible to offer the second gain level as a second base iso. You would lose dynamic range boost but potentially gain a cleaner low light performance as you would be exposing your mid and highs to the second gain level rather than the first 500iso base. Would be nice to have the choice to swap out of dynamic range boost for potentially a cleaner, albeit a lower dynamic range, shot. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I really don’t know haha

Too bad the GH7 doesn't produce a deeper image like cine cameras. Good try my man.

@@jockturner1547 No, you are mostly correct. With the GH6 for example, it combines ISO 100 and ISO 800 when using a standard or natural profile with Dynamic Range Boost ON. In VLOG, it combines 250 and 2,000. If you turn DRB OFF, you can basically use either of those 2 ISOs (depending on if you are in vLOG or standard) as a native ISO. Many different tests on RU-vid show that they basically act as 2 different native ISOs. For example, in vLOG with DRB OFF, 1800 is much noisier than 2000 is. It's basically the same thing as dual native ISO, but you also have the option to combine both of them for better DR. Does that make sense?

@@contentm3893 That's obviously not true at all, as the GH6 and GH7 are the only 2 cameras on the market rated for Arri's LOG profile to run NATIVELY in camera. The GH7 is brand new and has many updates needed to get the IQ to match up to the GH6, but the GH6 is one of the best cine cameras on the market in terms of IQ and color science.

@@Studiotek Well yeah that’s what I said really… in the GH7 and G9ii you can’t turn off DRB, which means you can’t take advantage of the second native iso as you said for the GH6. So I can’t make the choice to lower my dynamic range and improve my noise performance.

I’m using several of the lenses you mentioned. The 10-25, 42.5 nocticron, and oly 12-40. Basically all I need. I’d like to add the 25-50 1.7 to round out my set.

And Lumix 20mm F1.7 Pancake for Street Photography

@@AndreasSando The S5IIX is fine as long as you don't need most of the features of the GH7, like uncropped 60fps, 120fps in 4k (also uncropped), no time limits, higher bitrate video, etc

As we keep being reminded, Zelensky will be anyone's for a few bucks ;)

Compression is a function of lens choice and physics, any sensor size can do it as well as any other sensor size if you just understand the basic physics behind it

@@ContraGrain The S5IIX does not have Dual Gain Output like the GH6, GH7, and Arri Alexas have, so I don't think it's possible

You can get it in post in DaVinci Resolve

@@LumixGang You can convert it in post, yes!

Get a speed booster and a fast lens like the Canon 50mm f1.2, then you will get great low light from m4/3 camera & all the other advantages the GH7 have over the S5iiX like 4k120, great LCD, ProRes raw etc.

@@kayodeolaosebikan7462 Ya, I got the sig 18-35 and it all works out to being something like a 25-50mm f2.4 in FF terms. So the classic FF 24-70 f2.8 would be a native lens and be 'better'. Then if you want less depth of view, or more light, you can always get faster lens for FF. Also native lens will work much better with auto focus. So the old speed booster option is a great to have if you have no choice to use it. By today's standards its not longer what I would call 'professional' if your doing low light events/indoors stuff where you don't have control of the light. Speed boosters are more of a hack then a standard in quality or workflow.

No, it has a photography sensor (dual ISO) and not a cine sensor (dual gain output) like the GH6/7 and Arri Alexa

There are some people out there choosing their first pro camera and are asking the question which is best for them 🙏🏻

@samholland I agree 100%, just some of these poor viewers won’t get pass their first shot because it’s not the latest GH# or S# whatever. It’s just the landscape now unfortunately, we’ve created a “latest and greatest” consumerist culture. Both of those cameras are great for video! Fantastic even! But so was the GH5, GH4 even. Or even the OG S5… But letting a beginner spend $2K+ on a camera body is terrible advice. Amazing content as always though

Why do you non mft users aleays talk this mft has to be small crap? Gh cameras never have been small. They are professional hybrid cameras. I buy gh cameras because they are good not because they are small. My gh can do much more than your s5

​@@castielvargastv7931 Check your assumptions, mate, I have an Olympus E-PL3 and a GX80 which I both bought because they're small. MFT is limited by physics which is less of a problem nowadays for low light but is still unsolvable for depth of field. Totally agree: Your GH can do more than my S5 and it's all stuff I don't need. What I need for my artistic vision is shallow depth of field, swirly bokeh etc. to match what I'm doing photographically on film for stills. And that's something no MFT camera can do. Size is the only true strength MFT has and all the manufacturers are ignoring that strength at the moment. I don't need Arri log, I need a small camera with good stabilisation, PDAF, mechanical shutter and a viewfinder 🤷‍♀ FF is pricing MFT out of relevance for professional work IMHO. There is just no reason to put a dinky sensor in a massive camera when sensor price isn't a factor anymore. 10 years ago MFT made a lot of sense, but it has been going through a bit of an identity crisis lately. I hope the format returns to its strengths instead of just being abandoned because it can't compete with sensors 4 times the size. That doesn't mean the GH7 is a bad camera, cracking performance for such a small sensor, definitely. I just think that it's pitted against too many FF alternatives now.

@@LillySchwartz depth of fied is not my concern i shoot at 2.8 which is 5.6 in full frame, in film work f4 to f8 is common, so i have everything i need. I shoot 2.8 for my studio photography work as well as i want more than one eye in Focus i own a gx80 , a g81 and a gh5 . Gx80 and g81 are outdated and not good enough in terms of dynamic range , af and everything else but image quality. I use a batterygrip for filming and photography. I want my camera bigger not smaller. I want room for my hands and not a toy. I earn money with my cameras, ergonomics are important for work and tiny cameras are not ergonomic. I dont see any advantage in using a full frame camera for what i do, only disadvantages. No full frane camera can compete with a g92 or gh7 for the same price

​@@castielvargastv7931 Well, there we have it, it's the right camera for what you do, but I have different requirements because I earn my money from the "fine art" side of things rather than studio work. I need shallower depth of field for my work which is why I went for the S5. My MFT requirements are also different because I usually carry it alongside other heavier cameras usually shooting film. I also have smaller hands, so for me ergonomically the S5 II is already quite uncomfortable to hold. The grip on the GH7 looks even more uncomfortable. As for competing for the same price: Since I earn money with my cameras too the price doesn't really make much of a difference, 500 more or less every 5 years really make no proper dent anymore, does it? Also the GH4 was 1700€ same as the full frame Sony A7. The GH7 is 2200€ and the S5 II is 1600€ at the moment. And what does the GH7 bring to the table when the extra features it offers are irrelevant for most people getting into videography right now? What about 5 years from now when there are plenty of used FF options that will offer anything a videographer might need because we've practically reached peak video now? Even Panasonic sees the writing on the wall for MFT or they would have updated the GX80 instead of giving us a full frame camera without a viewfinder first. I hope the GH7 will be a success for them, but I have my doubts about the GH8 or GH9.

1. MFT still has smaller and lighter (and cheaper) lenses. 2. Not every MFT has to be small (as not every FF has to be big), 3. Can you give one example of FF with similar specs which is smaller or at least the size of GH7? 5.7K 60 fps, open gate, 4K120 oversampled full width, RAW recording, truly unlimited recording (active cooling and no artificial limit), IBIS... I can't remember a single one at least close, not to mention price and lenses. (And before you add "I don't need XY...", someone else might need it, so it doesn't matter in this regard.)

Dual Gain Output, not dual ISO. It's different. DGO is for cine cameras like the Arri Alexa

That comment seems a bit harsh. Many consider it to be some of the best.

@@DemocratiserThe comments SHOULD be harsh. Lumix get a lot of leeway because they are a small brand, but they really dropped the ball with the S5II/X when compared to the S5 or S1H - unbelievable drop in image quality

@@weinergod666 LUMIX flagged PDAF would have an impact. But is it really worse than comparable cameras like A7III or IV or Nikon Z6II or Canon R6II? I think you would find opinions are split.

Yes, the difference is striking (even more in 4k or C4K), I honestly can't understand why so few people speak about this. At this point, I think most S5ii or S5iix users don't really need 4k if they can't see how worse the image quality is compared to the S5 mark I, S1 or S1H.

@@Democratiser I think it is not PDAF because external raw on the S5II has not the issue, maybe they allowed more processing power for the IBIS and less for image processing. Because the IBIS of the S5ii and S5ix is much better than the S1, S5 or S1H.