Lyle Mays: Minuano (Six-Eight) AMAZING Intro: Analysis. 

There will never be such another Lyle.

How right you are. He was and is astounding. Thank goodness we have a recorded history of his genius works.

Thank you David for your kind words. I feel the same way about finding people, getting in touch and sharing insights with people who were also touched by this music. Thank you!

Beautifully said David - couldn't agree more!

@@Will-A. So do I!

@@lappi62 '... another echo of the original expressive comment here! Amen.

OH MY LORD the way you explain was very profound. Beautyful words my friend.

Lyle's part in the creative process of this band was massive.

In fact, I think he already did a video on that amazing section :)

@@PatMetheny1980 Goddam you are right !!

@@PatMetheny1980 Thanks Rodrigo :)

It hurts that he had to leave like that. He deserved better compared to what he gave us!

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Dear friend I agree with you but we have to be honest : I am not sure that he was looking for more recognition. In terms of partnership we must think what about Lyle Mays without Pat Metheny too ? Maybe he didn't achieved so much without meeting him at this Wichita festival... And he won so much Grammies too so the recognition of musicians was real. Now if we speak about listeners recognition I am pretty sure that it will grows and he will become a real legend. His work has no equivalent in the past 30 years. By the way I can ask to audience here, if there an artist or an album who goes so deeply in details ? The only group/album which is interesting is the Brian Blade Fellowship album called Perceptual. But it is not at this level. So yes you are right he deserved more but he managed to live with more than 300 dates a year Guy with his own compositions !! What kind of musician now has reached to do that in jazz ? Nobody. In fact I hope that we will have another Lyle Mays in the coming years. And I hope another PMG. He lived one of the most fantastic life on earth : playing his music and winning recognition. Could we do more before his death ? Maybe. But in a partnership like this there is always one in the light and one in the shadow. I repeat what I said before : every musician in jazz has now a debt to him.

Yes.

Thank you Richard. I'm very glad to hear that! I will make a video on September 15th soon.

That’s going to be tough because Lyle also composed a lot of the PMG music.. ☺️ it’s a McCartney-Lennon thing..

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Yeah, that thought came to mind too. Was hoping for a chance Pat would want to keep the group thing going with someone else equally talented. I know Lyle was a big piece of everything recorded. "Still Life Talking" , "Letter From Home", "Offramp" and other albums seem to be iconic recordings to great to not have a live audience ever again. People loved them all. Especially these 3. Kinda figured it was over after a year of no group resurrection. Sad. Didn't want it to end.

Thank you! Lyle is responsible for a lot of what we hear in the PMG music. In Minuano, for example, Pat wrote the main melody (16 good bars) and Lyle wrote the rest: the Intro and the interludes. He turned a song into a piece.

Paolo absolutely. And you’re so welcome, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! 🙏

I mean Pat came to Lyle with that main melody and Lyle created a world around it. Amazing.

Thank you Davi! This is just a sublime composition, isn’t it!

It is a true masterpiece. And thank you!

These progressions sound like ocean waves don't they...

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer yeah! have you seen Pat's performance of Minuano with the Metropole orchestra of the Netherlands? it's on RU-vid and it's awesome.

Thank you! :)

Agreed! 🙏

Gracias amigo! ❤️

This Intro is SO beautiful 🥹

I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Thank you 😊

Thank you!

Thanks Walter! :)

muchisimas gracias :)

Thanks Alex :)

Thank you Jack, my pleasure!

Thank you 🙏

Thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

Hey Mike! Thank you! I’m glad you found me here! I’m always doing my best to communicate things in a way that connect with what people already know - so they can understand why I’m enthusiastic about a piece of music. Or in short to make things as clear as possible :)

It is! Thanks Jon!

Raechel! It’s one of Lyle’s very very best. I’m glad you liked the video 🙏

Thanks Garry :)

Thank you! (your name if I may ask? :)

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Hi Guy, I´m Uwe (playing Mays / Metheny here on RU-vid 😉)...

ukaykeys Uwe and Dr Guy Shkolnik. You two guys have so much in common, you are both fantastic musicians.

Thanks, William, amazing music!

Thanks Omer! 🙏

hugocra Tremendo Lyle.

Gracias

Thanks Matheus :)

Hey Rogerio, thank you :)

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer, you're welcome!

Thank you!!

Thank you, you know, for me to have people not into music theory understanding the video means so much. Just as the music it self is deeply understood by non-musicians. To me Lyle looked beautiful. his posture at the piano, the magical long fingers and the expression on his face. Just sublime.

Dr. Guy Shkolnik Composer Oh I agree Doc and am embarrassed i said he was not good looking, it was a lame attempt at man-humor. Lyle is indeed a beautiful person and the world will certainly be a less beautiful place without him in it. I don’t know how to tell whether he or Pat is responsible for a particular passage that paralyzes me, like you could always tell if it was McCartney or Lennon. Saw a video the other day of Pat and Lyle playing duet Letter from Home on a morning talk show and it was so brilliant , so beautiful. I thoughts there is no way a human being could pen that song-had to be sent down from on high. Pat played a ukulele size guitar (maybe it was a ukulele I don’t know) and Lyle on baby grand. Just splendid! I need to go find it and see/hear it now. Best wishes Guy!

Dr. Guy Shkolnik ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ojnWZWuFKUg.html is song i referenced, but it was not a duet as i recalled. Oops.

@@eleetse6701 I've watched this performance so many times... The way they get into it, totally devoted to recreating the music at max intensity each and every time tells you why they were so successful.

Thank you Francesco! ☺️

Thank you 🙏😊

:)

The introduction certainly is a circular argument that resolves in the beginning of a new phase of the piece; Metheny's main theme. Once again this shows how vital the collaborative nature of Metheny's/May's composition was to the group. That's not to detract from the vocals, bass, percussion, trumpet, etc. All absolutely vital to their unique sound. Always important to me was May's ambient keyboard sounds that added yet another dimension to their work. With the addition of Metheny's guitar-synth playing it can be pleasurable to find yourself uncertain whether you're listening to Metheny or Mays!

Very good point! An example of that guitar-piano mix is in James. And It all starts with their intention of becoming a unified voice, applying all their musical sensitivity. James was also brilliantly mixed by the late Jan Erik Konshaug who was a master at turning two instruments into one voice. I personally saw Jan Erik Kongshaug doing his magic in an album we recorded with him in 2015.

Thank you so much. I do believe it is in A, it’s the center of gravity of the whole piece even if it revel itself only in the second part of the main theme, and as the final chord of the piece. It’s also the final chord of Lyle’s intro.

Yep :)

😀 I’m glad you liked it! ☺️

Fulvio, this music indeed sounds great played piano solo doesn't it? It's fantastic!

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer I'm totally agree. Minuano is my overall favorite PMG piece. Everytime I hear it, it's goosebumps on the 7:40 progression after the section began in 6:40. For me it rappresented a modern classical masterpiece. I appreciate so much your analysis on Lyle and Pat work. Me and my brother, we love Lyle music.

I really can't see a particular similarity between the intro to Minuano and Fransisco.

Juan - I made three more videos on Minuano - Check them out - I'm explaining almost everything in this piece

@@dr.guyshkolnik_composer Yeah I noticed later on that day. Sorry! How'd you figure out all this stuff? I started listening Pat an year ago. I figured a couple of songs harmony and melody bye ear for example Have you heard, third wind, every summer night, and minuano too except for the intro and interlude. Wow man, blew my mind. Thanks for putting all this work for us. I really appreciete it. Cheers!

@@juanjohnn Thank you! :) And most of the sections besides the main melodies you hear on third wind and minuano were written by Lyle

Pat and Lyle wrote their music to express emotions (a friend of Lyle told me that what Lyle told him). Lyle was proud of being able to express any given emotion musically. That’s why so many non musicians connected with the music. Of course, as musicians we’re interested in the music tools the used to achieve that, same as Lyle’s studies the classical composers.