M/S Estonia sinking simulation 

Yeah maybe that could have enabled them to ask for help earlier and saved lives.

Nothing as we know of.

kert tamme lmao that is the baddest story, and there wasnt only ropes protecting the ship

All ferries that were involved in the Estonia rescue are still active today

@@Kert69 You could be right, but it could also be Israel or both.

Amorella is being replaced though

I bet you found it highly boring if this was your expectation basis. I’m glad you made it safely. Roro is relatively unstable design, but the amount of good it does still seems worth it. Did you get seasick?

@@corettaha7855 what is unstable with it?

Good choice. Next time if you want to fly somewhere watch flight mh370 and now have nice day

No, dude's "memlord" and "Samuel."

That your DARE!!!!😮😢😢😢😢

The car ramp, still seen on the bottom of the ocean, is still closed. Mostly closed, not at all wide open as shown in the simulation. Also car deck was above sea level. It could never have sunk within an hour like that. Something else must have happened, or a combination with something else.

staffan144 Bombs?

staffan144 #TrutherEdit

German expedition collected some metal from the ship, and few labaratories found explosion trays (such as "Twins"). So the reason why Estonia sunk may be explosion device onboard.

DolleHengst well the shipping industry accepted it They diden’t know at that time there were some other ships that had the Same structure she was made to go 25 sea miles away from shoreline

"Rest In Peace"

nordhorny No need for that.

Happier Gilmore amen 🙏🏻

Can't do much about lights if they got conplete blackout

The Baltic sea is no ocean

Also for some reason dumb loads of sand to the ship, cover up something. There was even debate to concrete whole ship.

Ai miksi?

It's for cars to go in

@@jumblewary4544 but it was pulled down by the bow visor

Should Have done it at the stern

R.M.S Titanic Liverpool it had a Door at the stern

Many ships have bow doors of this design

As I know, MS Mariella, MS Isabella, MS Silja Europa, and some more arrived to help

@@immigrantgaming420epic Yep, and some other cargo type ships and helicopter from finland and sweden.

@@immigrantgaming420epic Silja Symphony and Finnjet too, and other

Metal fatigue which is accelerated by cold conditions and the effects it has on the steels crystalline structure over periods of time. This along with constant straining and even possible corrosion induced fatigue. It had happened to one of her sister ship not long before the loss but checks are said not to have been made. Frequent panting maintenance can hide cracking from inspection teams. Sadly, it is all very plausible.

She had only being cross baltic for two years. Before that she was going in much more protected waters between Åland and Finland. According to one report I read she had only seen sea this hard for 20 hours before that terrible night.

Estonia's sister also experienced this during a storm.

yes, it is now on Swedish military base

yep

The USN, Royal Navy, and dozens of ferry lines have operated hundreds of safely designed ships with bow doors for over 80 years. There is nothing inherently wrong with bow doors from an engineering perspective. Design and redundancy are critical.

@@KB4QAA The fact that a failure of a locking mechanism may result in the vessel sinking with everyone on board may not have anything wrong from an engineering perspective but it does have it from a philosophical perspective. You are supposed to design boats, planes, trains and everything else in such a way that even in the event of a failure you can still sail, fly and ride safely to your destination or to an alternative one without anyone getting wet, when the mechanism was conceived someone forgot to ask the most important question when there are human lives at stake: *what happens if it fails?*.

@@BeemerTwelve Thank you for admitting you were wrong!

@@BeemerTwelve I was built to fail safe the inner door did not fully open It did not fale and did not sink Estonia

The queen mary doesn't sail anywhere to the world since decades. The reason for that is that there are Parts of the Main engine Missing and because it is a steamship it would be quite uneconomic!! Also she is surrounded by rocks and only a floating Hotel

QM is around 80 years old

Sven Ollino open surface fluid dynamics. Fill a glass with water and carry it across a room. If you are average clumsy, you probably make it without spilling any. Now pour 1/4 of the water from the glass into a sheet pan and carry that across the room at the same pace you did the glass. You’ll find it behaves very differently because it sloshes around, crashes against the sides, and makes the pan hard to keep stable even with both hands on it. The car deck is like the sheet pan, and the rest of the ship was top heavy above it, so it’s center of gravity shifted (ie, it capsized). Sorry it’s eleven years late, but there’s the answer

@@corettaha7855 thank you

@@corettaha7855 That's not really what he asked

The decks below the vehicle deck were NOT watertight! There were cabins down there and engineering spaces with tons of hatches and ventilation

Not true, by the official report they all stated that they saw water entering the car deck at huge volume

@@ndmz903 Well in the documentary they said that the ramp was on and only a little bit water came in from the front.

@@Kert69 Yeah the visor fell off and then the ramp opened ajar slightly, if it had opened fully the ship wouldve probably capsized in like 2 minutes.

@@ndmz903 The ramp was closed not slightly open. Water only splashed in, that's what they told.

@@Kert69 through where did the water splash in?

The USN, Royal Navy, and dozens of ferry lines have operated hundreds of safely designed ships with bow doors for over 80 years. There is nothing inherently wrong with bow doors from an engineering perspective. Design and redundancy are critical.

Ahem do not forget the deaths which was 825

Terminator fan2003 *852. ironically

Sven Ollino I’ve heard 20-25 ft waves. Rogue waves are scientifically verified now. Every now and then a wave geometrically forms that is freakishly higher than other waves in the same exact area. I just hadn’t heard this theory of the sinking.

when other cruiseferries with ramp at stern get into rogue waves their ramp doesn't fall off, but Estonia's ramp suddenly fell? like, the reason of sinking may be the bombs onboard, cuz there were found many holes.

@@jijimochin when a ship sinks generally some holes will be made by it impacting the seabed and also the pressure from the water.

Not sure where the reports of 15mph winds come from? Listen to the very moving radio recordings made over the the incident. Weather was quite severe even to the point of making a rescue very difficult. They could not even lower life boats to pick up survivors. They had to drop life rafts with cranes and rely on the survivors swimming to them. Helicopters were required to ferry people to the rescue vessels.

@@robinwells8879 Or of the survivor accounts. If you made it off the ship the next hurdle was not getting killed in the water. If you didn't have a vest by the time you hit the water, you were dead. If you had a vest but got swept away, you were dead. There's a reason only a little over 100 people made it.

Kotik112 it was watertight.

you dont know shit

@@steffe8103 IT HAD NO WATER DOORES. IT BEE OPEN TOO ALL THEMS DECKS. I WAS THERE, I KNOW AL LABOUTTE ITS!

@@ilovecops5499no

m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dGydUgmFYY4.html

Magnus Petersson u dont know anything mate

There was a bomb that blew out front, then huge waves opened the ramp and 100 TONNES water every second got inside!

Latvian Trainy Was there an audible explosion sound heard by survivors? If so, that might be plausible. Might.

vega albin probably right

+BertilGyllenhake Night*

BertilGyllenhake crappy seas too. Boo mean waves 🌊 quit breaking things! Rip Estonia ferry victims. Blessings to their families.

Only60Games John maybe you are thinking of the Zeebrugge Ferry disaster?

I think it is quite likely that people thought something was wrong as objects would be sliding in one instead of both directions due to the list.

FH: It is not reasonable to think a ship will float, especially with open access to the sea. Above the main deck they are NOT watertight, and will also fill with water. In any case, ever ship has a certain point point at which it will capsize and sink. "Metacentric Stability".

No they weren't

They detached by the stress

@@Terminatorfan1984REAL there was a bomb in one of the truck that got on board 15 minutes Late!

@@latviantrainy968 no there wasn't

@@latviantrainy968 the cause of the bow visor breaking off was due to waves slamming on the bow visor which caused stress on the hinges to soon break and the box visor fell off which caused the ramp to be pulled down

ivario 11 years later and people still blaming the Russians for literally everything that goes wrong.

Vittu sa mõtled? Kust ta selle oleks saanud võtta see pandi üles 12 aastat tagasi 11 aastat kui sa commenteerisid see oli esimene video sellest

Do you mean Visor not Wisor

It's unsinkable!

bjnboy. sadly there are many other light sources at the front of the vessel aft of the bow that would obscure any light from the vehicle deck plus I think you underestimate the sea conditions which is understandable. Half the time the bow may not be visible for wave and spray. The inner ramp also never actually fell fully forward as this narrator suggests, only slightly but sadly, enough.

The bow visor is not the only barrier between ocean and lighted inner car deck. After the Visor there is the vertically raised and locked squarish car ramp. So even if you loose the visor the inner light source shines against the inner side of the ramp. You can see it on some pictures of the closing Estonia.

You know that after bow visor there is the vertical raised locked squarish car ramp.

It sank to starboard! It's angle was looking at the front not back and it sank in Front!

Well the front fell off.

kert tamme it was Mv estonia

Yes but not with two extra hols

Natas Corpus if you were standing directly in front of the ship at the level of the car deck, you’d have seen light. If you were standing at the bridge you would have a blind spot caused by the locations relative to each other. You wouldn’t even be looking at the water immediately closest to the car deck, through which some light would have traveled. If you’ve ever dropped a flashlight into the sea then you know light does disappear under seawater relatively quickly. If that’s not enough, there was a lot of light from other sources closer, and much as city lights make stars seem to be dim or even to be absent altogether, the ambient light would have also made it hard to see any light that managed to filter through from the car deck. The lights were on though. A crew member reported a cctv showing water coming from the direction of the bow visor early on. The cameras were there for security and not to remote view the state of the blind spot, so they were showing the cars instead of the ramp. Also, one survivor at least remembers being close enough he feared being washed into the car deck as the bow was disappearing under the water. I think after this they began training cameras on the ramp itself instead of trusting instruments to relay the condition and state of ramps. Makes you wonder why they don’t have at least some baffles in these open floor plan designs where it’s going to slosh around and turtle the boat.

callum hardy 😂 long version: a wave hit the boat, and the front fell off

Latches, hydraulic arms and other structures supporting the ramp were broken by the visor. So the ramp was moved quite loosely by water and gravity. The ship sunk upside down, you know. And there isn't any actual footage left from the camera on the car deck. In the statement the men at the engine room were saying that in the end there was so much water on the car deck that the picture started to blur.. So the ramp must have been quite much open for some time. It just bothers me that that people are either so stupid or mentally lazy that they cannot read and understand the report which has been public for twenty years. Then they rather believe these UFO, KGB, and CIA theories. Basic knowledge of natural sciences and engineering and ability of logical thinking is surprisingly rare nowadays which also explains popularity of these conspiracy theories.

@@tapiorissanen7652 Agreed! I'm still confused over how water came rushing down below car deck, since she didn't capsize and remained floating upside down. Shouldn't the doors on car deck be massive and sealed? Ironically, the fact that she did take in water under car deck gave people time to evacuate..

@@tapiorissanen7652 Well, the official reports were a bit dodgy and changed multiple times. Especially at first, when asked "what's that all about", the governments just basically told everyone to fck off. And still does. Which is rude. So they basically made a medium for conspiracies and then acted all surprised about them. The sinking was a tragedy, but another one followed regarding the whole handling of the situation.

@@tapiorissanen7652 The official report was put together by the delegates of *Sweden*, *Estonia* and Finland. It wasn't a "neutral" commission, which could have, and most likely was orientated by the Swedish and Estonian goverments. It was a suspicion and a conspiracy theory a long time ago that Estonia and Sweden were smuggeling weapons on the ship, which was later confirmed, however at first denied by the goverments of Estonia and Sweden. When going by the Russian submarine theory, it would make sense that Estonia and Sweden manipulated the report and the commission to avoid anyone getting know of the illegal smuggeling. This theory is also supported by the completely unexplained covering of the ship with cement (possibly to cover the holes created by the submarines?). The official report also completely ignores the laws of physics. How did the ship manage to sink from the stern and not even tilt any degree towards the bow? Maybe because (most) of the water didn't enter from the bow, but instead the starboard side of the ship? Also, if there wasn't any damage on the sides, how did the water enter the closed airpockets, which could have kept the ship floating upsidedown for hours if not days? For me the official report makes no sense at all.

I always thought it was a deliberate act..

Martin1335 I think you give humans waaay more credit than we have earned for being able to pull off elaborate plots. Most of us can’t even fool our mom with the help of all our friends. In fact, the more people helping the plot, the faster mom figures you out. Organization on the fly is not our strong suit. We are wicked enough, but not clever enough to be super villains.

Don Love you can see that because that’s literally a whole video about how the front fell off, while knowing the front fell off. It wasn’t the mechanism though. Those were sound. It was the insufficient spacing for open sea conditions in heavy seas. Even the engineers expected this configuration to go for shoreline only. They also recognized and planned for this being a failpoint and if seas were violent for it to knock off the visor. The ramp was the failsafe, but the spacing insufficiency allowed the ramp to be yanked loose by the falling visor.

Does it really sound like robot?

no it did not there evidence that says shows Estonia's locks broken and there were no submarines close to Estonia during the report.

@@springlockfanatic Are you sure about that? There may be far more to this story than meets the eye. Military hard wear wad being smuggled out of the forner USSR both on that route along the Baltic and on that vessle. Further, a big fuck off hole on the starboard side of the hull waa found by later dive crews to the wreck thus substantuating why that vessle sank so quickly. Why was body retreval and the recovery of the ship (quite an easy task in 85 meters of depth) banned and the wreck covered (or an attempt) in stones and concrete? That bow visor may indeed have come off, but it is very possible that another series of events and an alternative narrative needs to be considered.

@@garryharriman7349 well there was a submarine during there but it was 2 miles away facing away from estonia , also no wrecks found of submarine there and also the submarine was sending messages back home in USSR and after the soviet was over the case file of that was the location of submarine just entering the gulf of bothnia,after estonia sinking.and estonia sink so fast because theres a reason why let me tell you why,you think watertight doors can hold the ship even from capsizing well the glass could not hold the water and it broke making water pour in and it capsized because there was more cars on starboard.

No

853 pepeoles dead

are you all right in the head my friend

Nice tinfoil hat you got there. And what exactly was the benefit for rich people to do it?

The hydraulics was an interesting point. Until you rode off in the #rothschildscontroltheweather direction with it. I’m betting they got subjected to enough forces after the securing locks were broken to eventually compromise them and result in failure. Sounds crazy I know. But either that or the Illuminati did it. Or space aliens.

RAG: 1. The sea can overcome two (2) hydraulic rams easily using the massive size of the visor moment arm. 2. There is no reason the hydraulic system would be maintained in positive pressure constantly after the door is closed. That only leads to leaking seals and worn out hydraulic pump.

You don’t know what you’re talking about😂

Please evaluate

This is original

@@idkwhatmyname7495 ur right

@@justinian536 the copy made 2009 while this made 2007

@@corettaha7855 You're replying to an ELEVEN year old comment.

Nature Minecraft in real life No it wasn't.

IT WAS NOT A BOMB OMG IDIOTSSSSSSS

Nature Minecraft in real life that’s a great metaphor. The ship went off like a bomb. The waves shelled the ship with an artillery of deadly forces. I approve.

Jumble Wary the aliens 👽

Matti Suutarinen scooping in seawater like a giant ladle. Impossible that should compromise a boat. Proves it was terrorists obviously.

there was no millitary boxes it was a car fary and i know this beacouse im a estonian :/

@Verbal Dk the lulz

Wrong. Its fully known that Estonia had at least 2 occasions russian military material smuggled in to Sweden. A high official in the Swedish customs were commanded to let those vehicle through whitout any inspection. @@csn9935

I believe militaries do snuggle and transport weapons. I don’t believe they automatically are the cause of waves hitting boats knocking the front off. Otherwise this would be more common occurrence and people on cruises would sleep in scuba gear anticipating it.

Women Manner and why the salvage company would consent to participate in the conspiracy in this fiction is never explained. I read an article detailing the origination of the various urban legends of Estonia, and it’s an interesting read. These stories were published in tabloids almost immediately (speculation, rumor), and they are still retold with the same details as scripted at that time.

no because if it was the bow visor will break depending where the hull was and the torpedo will do more damage then that because it has explosives so no