I returned my standard glass for the nanotexture after your original review. Took a month to get to me but it was the best thing I could have done. Im obsessed. It feels incredible to draw on and so easy on the eyes without the glare. Im also noticing that when Im in a dark room, the blacks look deep, as you would expect with OLED. Reading is much better on it as well. Cheers
I got the Nano texture after having regular too, and it’s the best drawing device I use. It’s an absolute pleasure to use. And also, with nano texture, I’m finding myself reading on the iPad for the first time too
Thanks for this video. I am also jumping from M1 to M4. I appreciate this...now I'm confident to go ahead and buy it, and your desktop drawing table. awesome!
By far, one of my favorite channels, you inspire me to keep drawing even if I don't know how. Thank you for sharing and all the effort you put in your videos. Your'e so talented with the story telling. Thank you Chris!
We should have laws that specifically address many of these things as opt-in only, versus an opt-out option buried in settings alongside updates that turn them back on automatically. Welcome to the corpo hellscape of the United States.
I've lost all trust in Adobe. Adobe Lawyers and Adobe friends explaining it "in simple language" also seems suspicious.LOL. Can't they just put the simple language in the TOS?
The issue I have with Adobe is with the fact that they tell us that we give them sublicensing rights to any and all content for them to distribute, modify and use at their will.
That’s just standard for any apps like this because they need to reproduce the images for thumbnails, etc within the app. The key part is where they specify “solely for the purpose of”. On the Adobe instagram page they explain this pretty well with one of their lawyers.
@@chris-piascik the fireside chat on Instagram isn't binding. I've never heard of a company stating the user agrees to allow the company sublicensing, and not sure what thumbnails within the app would have to do with licensing on any level. If the work is only regarding the software's allowance to create a scaled version for us to use as a thumbnail, then why would we need permission to see our own stuff for our own purposes. Adobe is becoming more and more shady, and I don't like it
The problem with Adobe is they show a "monthly" price, but in tiny letters say "annual plan billed monthly". Then they also have a "cancel anytime" mention, with no mention of the cancellation fee when you sign up. So, yeah, you can cancel anytime, but it will cost you the remainder of the subscription price anyway. Also, they charge more for their subscription than any other art program out there by a long way, yet only provide minimal updates that are comparable to those other companies. Their business practices are predatory in multiple ways, and just because they clarified their TOS after all the backlash does not mean they suddenly became a good company. They're rotten to the core. I sincerely hope someone will take this opportunity to come up with a Fresco like app, because it's legitimately good and the only product Adobe has that I don't see a real competitor for. Concepts may be close in some ways, but it's somehow more expensive than Fresco while missing some of the features. But I digress. The point is, we should all do our part to make Adobe fail fast.
I totally agree! It feels like the smooth side of a Bristol board, whereas my old paperlike screen protector felt like drawing on the rough side. (And drawing on my old iPad with no protector was like drawing on the window!)
Whoa! Whoa! What is this sorcery?! I ordered your Another 1,000 Days on Sunday and I already have the book (it's Weds)! I'm interested in getting an Ipad and I want to use Procreate, I am not an Adobe fan and will probably never use their products. I really appreciate the tech vids.
The more I look at reviews and research the Nano-Texture option, the more I'm sold on it (esp. as an artist). That said - the scratch test that's widely gone viral now still irks me from pulling the trigger. Have you noticed any visible scratches, or deterioration of the nano-texture coating over time - especially against some of the pencil functions are pressure sensitive? I suppose the long-term effect is more of the concern here because I've been using the Bellemond/Paperlike screen protector for quite a while as well; and using it for both drawing, mobile gaming, etc. you can tell certain sections of the protector have lost its "grit". There are clear 'smoothed out' spots (for gaming with thumb in the corners) vs the matte/paperlike spots. Also thanks for the Adobe Opt-Out tip! Did not know that was there.
So far it’s perfect as I show in this video. I’m not too worried about it. I had a matte display on my old cintiq that I used for years without issues. So fingers crossed I guess!
Chris, I love you videos, you are hilarious. :) I just got my nano-texture iPad (yay!)! Curious if you've noticed banding/striping from on yours while filming?
@@mariacruse6195 There's links to both in the description of this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j2_KjBV_soE.htmlsi=2GZQJABj9zKC4AUV
Mine just arrived today. I went with the 13 inch standard glass and a paperlike. The difference didn’t seem worth the cost to me and I don’t draw outside or in harsh lighting. I upgraded from the 5th gen iPad Pro. I’ve been using paperlike on every iPad since my first 7th gen iPad. Not including lighting is it that big of a difference for drawing? So many reviews are conflicting… yes, no, yes no…
For me it’s a very big difference. I can’t draw on a regular glass display without something like Paperlike. With the nanotexture I love the drawing experience as is. I’m still very happy I got it.
@@chris-piascik thanks for the quick reply! Your channel has been a great source of entertainment and education. I’m going to slap a paperlike on it and call it good. Maybe when it’s time for the next upgrade I’ll go for the nano glass if it’s offered on future releases.
Stumbled upon your channel because of the new Ipad - I'm probably going to bite the bullet + subbed ;) Thanks for the follow up and follow through on the "promise" - despite some nasty comments in one of the previous videos
Chris Chris Chris!!q At 6 minutes 34 seconds, I see your iPad on a white stand with little feet, I want to get that. Where do I get that? I just bought a new iPad nano and I want to get that stand that you’re using :-) never mind, never mind! I read the comments, and I found what it was called… Thank you for everything you do Chris you’re amazing!
Thanks so much! Here’s the video where I talk about those stands: The BEST iPad upgrade for artists. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j2_KjBV_soE.html
"The Apple Pencil Tip last longer ..." Wow, wait! I can't compare my usage of the Apple Pencil with yours, but I am using the Apple Pencil 2 sinc 2018, very first device when it came out (mainly using it for note taking) and I have absolutely no issue with the tip that it may consumes or something. The Pencil even fell down several times directly on the tip without any scratches or deformation. The tip may not be as white as it was when I bought the Pencil back in 2018 but it shows no sign of consumption anyways.
Do you happen to use Apple’s Magic Keyboard? If so, any thoughts about the horizontal lines it leaves on the screen? They do buff out, but my worry is that over time it might catch any dust/dirt and rub it into that one spot. My last iPad Pro was the 2018, I hope/expect to get similar from the M4.
Interesting. When I go to data and privacy settings in my account, it says "You have been automatically opted out from content analysis for product improvement when using Creative Cloud and Document Cloud apps. This setting does not apply when you separately choose to participate in product improvement programs." It doesn't even seem like you can opt-in, at least not on that page. I wonder if this is in response to the complaints.
When I put one on just to test since many people said it wouldn’t work, it looked and felt just like it did on the regular display. So I’d say any would be fine. It does sort of defeat the point of the screen though.
I also got the nano texture after watcging your video and love it. :) I am still nervous about it scratching due to the jerry rig everything video, but tbh I have a 4 year old kindle which is plastic coated and it doesn't have a scratch despite me being way less careful with it than my ipad. So it's probably fine imho (which is why I ended up getting it).
Glad you love it too. I’m not too worried about it. My old Wacom cintiq had a matte finish and I used that for years without scratches. I’m sure if I used metal tools on it like that video it would have scratched as well though.
Thans for great video ! Sorry for my english , its no money problem. I am regular user ipads since 2011. All my ipads looks as new, 99,9% use on my home. I cant decide who oi better for safari, you tube, games, streaming.. the nano or glossy? Nano have deep blacks? The reason to update is the oled screen. I am tired the reflections on glossy and i need your help ! After one year its possible to apears scratches on nano? No exist a protector for nano? Thanks
Did you see this video? I think it will answer most of your questions: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KEq2Ybb8PKA.htmlsi=2Hv1olEOgPO_XlVU
Hi Chris thanks for all videos! I d like to ask you if possible to make a video abou how to rotoscope with Fresco updated...I know rotoscope is not your goal but if you can solve a easier way to do that using Fresco would be awsome!!!
Chris, Are you having any issues with palm rejection, especially when it is charging/hot? I got mine a week ago and it is definitely a lot worse than the M2. I had no issues with that at all. It does it with and without a glove for me. Sometimes it just stops painting for a second. It is incredibly annoying. It does it in more than one app, so its not the app.
Yeah, the new iPad is barely any bigger. It’s hard to even notice. It’s a slightly more snug fit, but it’s a rubber cradle so it doesn’t seem “sketchy” at all, and after a few times it sort of stretches a bit. It does sit a tiny bit lower but I don’t notice when I’m drawing. I doubt I’ll even replace the cradle when an updated one comes out.
Hi Chris, great video btw, quick question what is your Adobe subscription plan? i've noticed that u have photoshop + lightroom, but there is no Fresco on the list??
I have the full plan as I use multiple apps for my work. That said, if you’re using an iPad you can get Fresco through the App Store and use it for free, or pay $10/year for the version that allows you to import brushes and gives you more creative cloud storage.
Sounds promising! Now I have to wait a few years until this feature trickles down to less expensive iPad versions. At some point I might actually become independent of my desktop (Windows) machine and not having to replace it with a Mac …
@@chris-piascik I'm not too optimistic, judging by the 10+ years it took iPad OS to get to where it is now. I guess around 5 years from now might be realistic (that's when I retire and no longer need all the stuff that only runs on my PC ;-)).
I went to purchase the drawing board you’re using and they said it wasn’t compatible with the 2024 iPad models. Will it work with the M4 iPads? Or do you have a custom not-yet-released version of the board? Thanks!
It works with both the Astropad DarkBoard and Sketchboard 1 and 2. It’s just a slightly tighter fit and it sits slightly lower, but I don’t notice it when drawing. I use them both regularly. The sketchboard 2 is mainly on my desk and I use the DarkBoard when drawing on the couch. The sketchboard 2 rubber cradle seems to have stretched a tiny bit so now it pops in easily, but at first it was pretty snug. I never felt like I was going to bend the iPad or anything though. I demonstrate it in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KEq2Ybb8PKA.htmlsi=Kb38Tn0RbxARt8z5
@@chris-piascikWow thanks so much!! I really wanted the Darkboard (I’m a couch drawer) but they insisted my new iPad wouldn’t fit. I’m going to watch your video then roll the dice and grab one. Thank you!
Thank you for your review. I plan to get a new iPad Pro and is deciding whether I should get the nano texture glass. My eyes feel more comfortable staring at the nano texture glass than the standard glass one. However i am worried it gets scratches easily where the staff at Apple Store said they do not recommend using Apple pencil for nano texture glass option.
Really? That’s kind of interesting. Mine arrived yesterday and I also don’t know yet what to do. It looks fine but I guess it’s not that different than my old one with a mothca screen protector on. And no worries at all that something can scratch the display.
That’s a wild thing for the store to say, the iPad Pro is designed to be used with the Apple Pencil. They go hand in hand. You’d be missing out on so many features by not using the pencil. Apple would not have released it as an option if it could not be used with the pencil. The nano texture option is positioned for creative professionals that need the most robust machine and all of the pro apps utilize the pencil.
@@chris-piascik I asked another staff yesterday and he did not mention you should not use Apple pen for Nano Texture glass option. I was quite worried about the scratch vulnerability as there were quite a few review about it on Reddit.
Can confirm. There where already some cases where they somehow managed to scratch the screen. But from what I can say: maybe it’s the ring. I wear my weddingring on my drawing hand and it’s titanium. So I guess being not careful enough can cause demage. But from what i can tell: if you want a good surface to draw on and also do want to have some glare reduction I can recommend the mothca matte glass screen. It doesn’t ruin your pencil and also it doesn’t wears down since it’s glass. The experience was nearly identical. The mothca has only a fraction of more RGB shimmer if this is something you are looking for. Used it on my previous iPad and after half of a year it still looks new. They are so close to each other that I also derive towards buying the normal one and putting this one on top. I will compare a bit more these days but there is definitely no huge differences. Maybe the nano handles glare a bit better when drawing under direct sun but that’s the biggest difference.
In my experience with any screen protector the gestures sometimes don’t register and I find that annoying. Spending the last month drawing on this iPad without a screen protector has confirmed that for me.
I’m sorry if this has been asked already, but what case (if you use one) and drawing stand do you use for the new iPad? I’ve looked everywhere and I feel like nobody has released accessories for this thing yet.
I still use the same drawing stands from this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j2_KjBV_soE.html both of them are technically for the previous iPad but they work fine with the new one. The fit is slightly more snug, a little bit more with the DarkBoard, as the rubber on the sketchboard 2 has some more flex. The new iPad is the tiniest bit bigger, you can barely tell when they are side by side. The iPad does sit a fraction of an inch lower but I don’t notice it when I’m drawing. I have an ESR case specifically for the new iPad that I use when I take my iPad out of the house.
Both the sketchboard pro 1,2 and the DarkBoard work with the new iPad. It just fits a bit more snug. The new iPad is barely bigger than the previous model. I use them both everyday. The iPad sits a teeny bit lower than flush as well, but I don’t notice it while I’m drawing.
I have just bought the M4 with nanotexture and it's great to draw on. I dont understand how people think it feels the same as the normal glass. The only thing that i think that would make it better is a more wacom style nib to the pencil.
I draw 2-3 hours a day. Wish I could do more, but with making puppets I can’t commit my whole day to it, and I don’t want to get an injury. I would rather draw less now to be able to draw for the next 20 years. Note I injured my arm using a mouse 8 hours a day when I was animating. Found some fixes for it though
Yeah, Can't be support Adobe. And if I was you, I wouldnt either. No amount of explaining or justification will ever bring adobe back or bring any single nano-milometer of trust back. Their practices are utter shit and completely untrustworthy. From practically stealing peoples drawings, to secret and subtle ToS changes and shitty practices when it comes to their subscriptions and payments. Just turning off the feature, to your knowledge at least, shouldnt give them the pass. Not only that but finding it is hidden on purpose. Stop supporting them, stop using them. Doing so means you are part of the problem.
@@chris-piascik how long do u say it last, in 1 single use? of the pencil, I track and it's about 3 hours for the battery to deplete till 10 percent, my ipad would last around 6 hours on procreate which is fine.. but the apple pencil pro is abit disappointing
🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *🖌️ Introdução e Experiência* - Uso do iPad Pro 2024 com Nano textura após um mês, principalmente no Adobe Fresco, - Desenho diário entre 5 e 6 horas, totalizando 155 horas no mês. 01:22 *📱 Desempenho e Duração* - Estado do ecrã após uso intenso, - Durabilidade da ponta do Apple Pencil sem protetor de tela. 02:46 *✨ Novas Funcionalidades do M4* - Funcionalidades de hover e redução de impressões digitais, - Limpeza fácil da tela. 03:24 *✏️ Apple Pencil Pro* - Atualizações no Adobe Fresco, - Função de compressão para acessar o menu de pincéis. 04:20 *🤖 Privacidade e IA da Adobe* - Controvérsias sobre IA generativa da Adobe, - Instruções para desativar a análise de conteúdo e dados. 05:58 *📺 Conclusão* - Convite para assistir outro vídeo sobre o iPad com Nano textura, - Comentários finais e despedida. Made with HARPA AI
Nobody mentions the fking latency bro the line u draw is directly under your pen finally, before it smudged 1cm after the pen how nobody mentions that am I the only one sensitive to that
Sorry bro. I had the smoothing cranked way up because I was doing final line work and the sketch was already done. I like lots of smoothing at that stage because I’m just finessing the lines and it’s more efficient. Fresco’s smoothing looks like lag because it corrects as you draw. If you turn it down there’s no disconnect, and that’s how I set it when I’m sketching.
@@chris-piascik u dont have to be sorry for anything i was just ranting xd thanks for the answer, now i wonder if delay in m2 vs m4 is different if u just turn off smoothing
Haha, it’s a bit tricky as a professional illustrator as the majority of my clients need Adobe files. I’m still holding on to the idea that Adobe will do something to further clarify things and do right by artists.
I love the nanotexture so much, it feels like BUTTER 🧈 I wish every screen included this as an option! For me, the biggest improvement is the reduction of eye strain..idk what it is about glossy displays, but my eyes wants to latch on to the specular highlights in the reflection, and this greatly reduces that. I’m also surprised with how well it’s held up after going to town on it with my Apple Pencil. For those worried about using any other microfiber cloth outside of Apple’s recommendation, rest at ease..just don’t use fiber based products or chemical solutions and you’ll be fine. Happy creating!
@@chris-piascik fun story-I bumped into one of my profs from my undergrad days at the Apple Store, and we talked about your channel! He mentioned you put him on the Zugu case which has been my go to case for years now. Glad you could put him on game! 😂
I draw every single day except last few days, because I sold my M2 iPad Pro for buying M4 iPad Pro 13 but my choice is glossy display, because I have no money for testing nano texture🫠
From what I’ve seen, unless you’re using it in direct sunlight very frequently, the extra few hundred is not worth the time. People still using stuff like paper like for that texture anyway.
@@napostrophen I’m using iPad at home most of the time😊 and you can choose nano texture in 1Tb or 2tb model, so price difference is really huge for me😊 my monthly income is about $800 only😑 I can use protection for display with any texture I want, but with nano texture I can’t make it glossy or paper like Sorry for my ugly English, it’s not my native😊
I have the nano: just buy a mothca glass screen protector and you will have a near experience. They are so similar that I dint even know yet if I will keep the nano or exchange it for the glossy one. My old iPad has the mothca on it and I am currently comparing them. Will wait a view days and draw a bit more and then decide
