MacBook Pro M3 vs M3 Pro After 24 Hours - Is 8GB RAM Enough?

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Space Black MacBook Pro M3 Pro vs Space Gray MacBook Pro M3 Unboxing & Comparison! | M3 vs M3 Pro
In this video, we unbox and compare the M3 MacBook Pro and the M3 Pro MacBook Pro in Space Black vs Space Gray. We run through benchmark tests, Final Cut Pro editing, web browsing, RAM test, and more. Is 8GB of RAM enough? Is the base M3 MacBook Pro fast enough for most users? We answer all of that in this video. Enjoy!
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0:00 What's Coming..
0:30 Space Gray M3 MacBook Pro Unboxing
1:37 Space Black M3 Pro MacBook Pro Unboxing
3:28 M3 is missing THIS! (Beware)
4:44 M3 vs M3 Pro Specs
6:22 M3 vs M3 Pro Benchmark Tests
8:04 File Transfer Speed Test
8:42 SSD Disk Speeds
9:18 Final Cut Pro Export Test
9:57 Web Browsing Benchmark
10:14 Is 8GB of RAM enough? (I am PUSHING the M3!)
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13:18 BUT.. here's the catch! (3 reasons to go M3 Pro)
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@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Never thought I'd see the day where 8GB of RAM is actually enough and justifiable 🫨

@JoshuaDominic 8 месяцев назад

That’s what they want you to think. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

@@JoshuaDominicbro I'm literally using the machines lol nothing to think about here

@JoshuaDominic 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButchmaybe for tech reviewers who could keep dishing out money to buy these yearly, but for the average Pro consumer who will hold onto the computer for the next 4-5 (maybe even more) years, with future updates, Final Cut Pro editing, moderate/heavy web browsing, and maybe even music production/3D modeling, it’s not practical. I cannot make this up.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

@@JoshuaDominic M3 is much different than the M2 or M1 machines, so it's not fair to assume based on those. 8GB RAM performs like 16GB this time around. If anything changes with time, I will be making another vid

@beaumac 8 месяцев назад

It’s not the size of the ram, it’s how you use it!

@SamDarteh 6 месяцев назад

finally, i got a deciding factor video. tried, tested, and that 's it. period. kudos man

@Aliens783 8 месяцев назад

Nice reviews.. the review I was looking for . Thanks

@acwyau88 8 месяцев назад

This is an eye-opening video..I just upgraded by base MBA M1 to the base M3 Pro because I was experiencing lag multi-tasking, especially when I had Parallels running. I thought I would future proof myself by going to 18gb of RAM.

@oliverlison 8 месяцев назад

I have bought an MBA m2 16GB because of future proofing. Also I doubt that MacOS / Mx CPU are memory effcient. Memory swapping has been reported very often and wearing out the SSD with MB M1/M2

@kinnetikira 2 месяца назад

In game development I hardly see someone successfully using just 8 Gb of ram :/

@Platipus725 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for adding chapters.

@Kieubasa 8 месяцев назад

8GB of RAM is very solid on a MacBook. But these are the Pro versions. A Pro user would never buy a Mac with only 8GB of RAM. The new base MacBook Pro is for people that want the display, speakers, battery and more that only the Pro versions offer. And 8GB of RAM is enough for users like that. But it still should have a bit more RAM even at the base level.

@shameermulji 8 месяцев назад

💯

@ShaunOconnell 5 месяцев назад

Agreed, my MacBook Pro from 2014 has 8gb of ram lol

@gbee8888 8 месяцев назад

Great review. What was the swap memory usage with the M3 Pro?

@Jakeyythetr 6 месяцев назад

If the M3 version can be found for a couple hundred off I actually think the base 8gb configuration can look appealing especially once it gets priced closer to the air pricing.

@arnehilario1900 8 месяцев назад

It would be interesting to see how the 8GB performs with virtualization software like Parallels.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

I have been testing. Not doing another comparison but will discuss in my later review

@njpme 8 месяцев назад

It sucks. It runs into swap

@immatoll4375 7 месяцев назад

I mean what is interesting about it? If you set up 6gb ram usage by parallels for windows then it is not really enough with 8gb. Simple Math.

@wongkinchung9985 7 месяцев назад

It's simple. When it sees not enough RAM, the VM simply cannot start. It cannot just use swap during startup.

@MrDinesh272 7 месяцев назад

Great explained!!

@gchetail 8 месяцев назад

Great vid! Did you test it with Chrome tho? Do you have a plan to test the base M3 Pro vs the base M2 Pro? Thanks!

@jeniferpadilla9905 8 месяцев назад

@BrandonButch Thank you great review! Question: With the MP3 can you also just attach a port that allows you to have 2 external monitors?

@alp4info 8 месяцев назад

BB- The problem with 8GB RAM is the memory swapping will degrade the fixed hard drive!

@mrabab1958 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the eyeopener

@carlosdelacova1943 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for a great review. I am seriously considering going from an M1 MacBook Air to the base M3 MacBook Pro. Your review is a great help for me in making this decision. Great video!

@ItsKaranJolly 12 дней назад

So u got M3 Macbook pro?

@ashishdeshpande3525 8 месяцев назад

Currently I own a M1 MacBook Pro and after couple of years I’ll exchange it with M3 MacBook Pro, don’t need excessive power.. this despite me being developer

@LordBagdanoff 7 месяцев назад

What’s your current ram?

@mrarticle622 8 месяцев назад

watching unboxing is something out of this world 😍

@robertmendes4181 8 месяцев назад

Can you edited 4k 60fps or 120fps ? How does it handle the editing ? (not just the export) Can you review the clips without lagging or skipping frames ? Thanks :)👍

@MattExzy 8 месяцев назад

An M1 Mac could handle that. I'd say even an iPhone could do that rather easily. I edit 4K albeit at 30fps on an elderly iPhone 7, it even exports at like 1.1x.

@Skipjordan73 8 месяцев назад

Great video, I just got my M3 base model and it’s super fast, thought I would regret it, and I don’t 🤙🏼

@Johnmims65 8 месяцев назад

Everyone tung to say it's bad all because it has 8gb of ram . Some people don't need 16gb

@ohheyalan123 8 месяцев назад

@@Johnmims65The iPhone 15 Pro Max has 8 GB of RAM. The base M3 will be sluggish with just 2-3 MacOS updates…

@asain3586 7 месяцев назад

@@Johnmims65 Only casual is ok with 8gb. Aint no way anyone working heavy software is ok with this ram

@leebeeskee 7 месяцев назад

My M3 iMac scored 587 on the browser bench test which blew my mind!

@NaveenKumar-xu8eb 7 месяцев назад

@BrandonButch Can you check whether the macbook heats up or battery drain when connected to a external monitor?

@TheHenningen 8 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot for the review. Which model(M3 or M3 pro) do you think will make most sense to an architect student who is about to start using ArchiCAD 27? This program actually requires 32GB RAM (on a M2 Mac) for modelling/design of Mid range projects. (Apartment and office Buildings). I am guessing that the M3 Pro with 18 GB RAM will be most suitable? Or do you think the base M3 with 8GB will work fine here as well?

@real_andrii 8 месяцев назад

Apple M CPUs are not magic. If ArchiCAD requires 32 Gb of RAM, you should get a machine with 32 Gb of RAM. 8 gigabytes of RAM nowadays are good only for people who do accounting with mild browser usage. While in this video it may seem like MacBook with 8 Gb RAM is doing an ok job, it actually wears down SSD to swap in and out the information that have to be in memory. PS: MacBooks are not the only laptops out there, more affordable options exist from other vendors.

@DigiDriftZone 8 месяцев назад

It would be great to see a comparison of the 14 core vs 16 core M3 Max, I can't seen to find any!

@Gelembfi 8 месяцев назад

I have only one question. Does an iPad counts as an external monitor? Like can I connect the base m3 mbp to an external monitor and to an iPad via sidecar?

@karanchoubey 8 месяцев назад

In my country India , the base model M3 is 1921 USD after cashback offer and M3 pro is 2281 USD. Not much difference in price and you get better processor , 18GB ram vs 8GB , extra type C port. So M3 doesn't make sense specially for the long term (at least 7 years).

@AzizSk91 8 месяцев назад

What if I use Citrix or parallel virtual windows machines l? Do 8gb handle that without lag?

@JustAPersonWhoComments 8 месяцев назад

Amazing review Brandon! The detailed comparison between the M3 and M3 Pro is really insightful. I'm surprised to see how well the base M3 handled various tasks despite having 8GB RAM

@Fear.of.the.Dark. 8 месяцев назад

lol watch this video instead

@jhillyt 8 месяцев назад

Great info BB. Was looking at these the other day in Apple and determined I needed to do a bit more research. Thanks for sharing. One question; do you known of any way to have the base M3 support multiple monitors via hardware or otherwise? Cheers....

@dopagony9946 7 месяцев назад

I have an M3 base and a m3 PRO 16". The M3 base is the only one I have used thus far for video editing and it showed 0 issues. It didn't feel fast enough, it felt FAST, period. It works great. I would highly recommend the base model to most people.

@dopagony9946 6 месяцев назад

@@HornDog67 that's so good, creativity level 1,000.

@oscarsuarez4843 5 месяцев назад

@@dopagony9946bro , help me. For reading is better the mbp 14 ? Today I had an M1 Pro 14 and an M1 Pro 16 side by side in Best Buy Then... Text on the 16 was objectively smaller than text on the 14 right next to it.

@stevenkwon1119 7 месяцев назад

would a higher ram on the base M3 make a difference? debating if I want to get the M3 pro or base M3

@FoxxFire 8 месяцев назад

For a moment some people might have thought they made perhaps the wrong choice in choosing the M3 Pro over the M3 14" device. But alas, they are saved by the very valuable MP ratio being higher on the M3 Pro machine. Thank goodness for that :)

@biggorilla1999 7 месяцев назад

What is MP ratio?

@ruedigermerz9525 8 месяцев назад

Great video, Thanks Brandon. I am curious about the disk speed. I have an 14" M1 Pro 8-Core with 32GB RAM and 1 Tb SSD. My speeds are 6044 write and 5291 read. Which is higher than what you measured on the M3's. Not that it matters, I just wonder if this has to do with the 32GB vs 8GB.

@andyH_England 8 месяцев назад

It is to do with 1TB versus 512GB. You get a jump in speed the larger the storage. Not that most average users need more than 3Gbps as most of the limitations is the external device.

@PSYCHOV3N0M 8 месяцев назад

RAM has nothing to do with SSD speed performance.

@heavensdoor5192 8 месяцев назад

10:48 you were talking about Final Cut rendering in the background but I believe it says rendering is paused at 10:52 , maybe if it was rendering in the background it would be worse when multi tasking through different tabs and apps, 8gb may not be enough if people plan on doing that.

@andyH_England 8 месяцев назад

He would need to put it in Stage Manager mode for us to see background rendering. Obviously the more RAM you have the faster the rendering and the more multitasking you can do, but if you just focused on the rendering that 8GB would get the job done.

@MarkMonetti 8 месяцев назад

If you move the mouse within FCPX it automatically pauses rendering. And Brandon was moving the mouse to show us that it is rendering…

@heavensdoor5192 8 месяцев назад

@@MarkMonetti thank you, I was looking to get a MacBook but I’m unfamiliar with all the apps, video editing is something I wanted to use my MacBook for and now I know something new about Final Cut Pro

@MarkMonetti 8 месяцев назад

@@heavensdoor5192 your welcome :)

@user-wl3jc2xl7c Месяц назад

thanks for the video....i was confused between MBP M3 vs MBP M3pro...now i can make decision to by MBP M3

@thomasbartlett3409 День назад

GREAT ! I'm retired and after using MacBooks my entire life, I recently chose the MacBook Pro M3 with 8 GB over the 18GB version , mostly for better battery life and I don't play game videos...Thanks for validating my decision with this excellent presentation.

@stephanm.4715 5 месяцев назад

Love your videos man and it’s quite refreshing to hear that the 8Gb base pro is MORE than enough for basic everyday usage. With all the crap being said about it not being sufficient it’s good to hear it actually is, I’m not a heavy user, I don’t edit videos or do renders or even play games on my laptop so this is perfect for me. Thanks again for this video.

@hafidnur2555 3 месяца назад

Please answer this, i need macbook that i can use to my workflow, like a using davinci resolve or premiere pro. So which one a macbook pro m3 or macbook pro m1 pro “14 inch” ?

@user-mf8wn6rb7z 4 месяца назад

Hi there! I'm looking to purchase my first Apple MacBook, and I'm interested in learning video editing using software like Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere Pro, and Adobe After Effects. Additionally, I want to dive into photo editing with Lightroom and Photoshop and then start my youtube channel. I'm aiming for a laptop that will last me at least 3-4 years. Currently, I'm using a Windows laptop for simple tasks like Word, Excel, and web browsing. Any recommendations or advice on which MacBook model would suit my needs best?

@s25917 3 месяца назад

any model on an M processor with 16 or more gigabytes of RAM

@cruisertechgt 8 месяцев назад

I have an 18GB M3 Pro, checking memory usage right now shows 11.5GB of Ram being used! I am already feeling like this is not enough but they are charging way too much.

@iscariel544 7 месяцев назад

Can you tell me your usage? I'm trying to choose between 16 and 32Go for the M3 pro.

@LordBagdanoff 7 месяцев назад

What work are you doing??

@iscariel544 6 месяцев назад

Hello?

@cruisertechgt 6 месяцев назад

@@iscariel544 if you have the money and want a device for long term go for 32GB it will last 4+ years

@osjversatile0 6 месяцев назад

무척 도움이 됐습니다. 영상편집을 하지 않는 사람이자 Mac에 입문하는 사람으로서, 부족하다고 생각했던 8gb의 램을 가진 m3 모델이 생각보다 훌륭하게 작동하는 모습을 확인할 수 있어서 기쁘네요.

@CarloRizzante 8 месяцев назад

It's common knowledge that it is not the size that matters, but how you use it.

@gerald1964 8 месяцев назад

I plan to upgrade from a 2019 iMac i9 with 40GByte of RAM. I found that when exporting a 4K/60 personal project of about 12 minutes in duration when using iMovie that I needed to close some apps as RAM space was running low per a message that I received. I did not have an unusually large number of apps open. It sounds like the memory management is much better on the M1/M2/M3 based Macs such that 8 or 16 (M3) or 18 (M3 Pro) GBytes should be more than sufficient at least for video.

@real_andrii 8 месяцев назад

The difference is probably more due to hardware encoders, present in new Apple Mx chips, and not "better RAM management". Also, you and this video author most certainly have different projects to work with, so there is your discrepancy.

@EatSleepLoom 6 месяцев назад

thank you I just got my m3 8gb and I was nervous but this makes me feel so much better.

@wolfyxcrypto 6 месяцев назад

How is it idk to get m3 or m3pro

@laxbeach2381 8 месяцев назад

As shown, having 8 GB in these machines isn’t too bad, however it seems like what they should do is focus on improving the M MAX every year, then keep pushing everything down. Kind of like how they do the iPhone. Give the Pro the MAX specs, then the regular M the Pro Specs, etc. The other thing is just eliminate the M from the pro lineup and move to Air or just a regular MacBook. Anyway, their iPhone lineup has the better strategy with having various options.

@Gaurang_Khatri 3 месяца назад

Is m3 air base (8-256) enough for video editing?? After adding external ssd

@willholder9161 2 месяца назад

Excellent video, crammed with useful information for most. I have both units myself. Space Gray Base M3 with 1T and Space Black M3Pro with 512MB. Have been tossed between which one to keep. Leaning Space Gray M3 as I use it primarily for business as a realtor. Nothing to cumbersome, use wise. Therefore the Space Black (while not really authentically black, as you mentioned, seems even somewhat deep plum/purple or something, is kind of a turnoff form an appearance standpoint. I give apple credit for the swing) is probably too much of a device for my current needs. Purchased both units at Best Buy. Have a few days left to finalize decision. Looking like the Space Gray M3 will be my MacbookPro keeper. And your video was exactly what I needed to see and really helped me finalize and feel better about my decision. Keep up the good work Brandon. 💯

@user-yh3dg9nd2f 8 месяцев назад

you are the only youtube video content creator i can do pip on my iphone hmm 🤔🤔🤔

@karmaaaa18756 8 месяцев назад

I just noticed the same thing! How come?! Is it channel dependent, the ability to do picture in picture?

@divyamoditongya 8 месяцев назад

When can we expect to see the M3 Max review?

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Just arrived today! I will be testing it out this weekend

@LordBagdanoff 7 месяцев назад

Is 36gb ram overkill for normal usage and video editing

@rfink222 4 месяца назад

I had a 2017 Macbook Pro with 8GB SSD 512 for 5 1/2 years and it worked fine for me. Traded it in after battery was going bad on base Macbook Pro 14 8 GB and it is very good. It has the same speakers, display, and other stuff like the other loaded Macbooks that cost a lot more. No need to make Apple any richer, they are already filthy rich.

@riziadilbaharkhan1315 8 месяцев назад

Brandon, did you cover IOS 16.7.2 yet?

@_Davyid_ 7 месяцев назад

M3 pro 18 gb vs m3 24gb , which one is better for dj use?

@oliverniehaus7159 8 месяцев назад

Great video as always Brandon! I initially ordered the M3 version and upgraded the RAM to 16GB until I realized that it was only $200 to get all the benefits of M3 Pro, more than double the RAM of the base model, better processor, extra thunderbolt port, space black color, ability to drive 2 external displays, better thermals. Ended up canceling my order and getting the base M3 Pro and am currently typing this on that device, super happy with my purchase! However I totally get that for most people the base M3 will be completely adequate!

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

I can't blame you for that at all! I think that's the main reason people will upgrade to M3 Pro. Enjoy your new machine!

@ahmet4yildirim 8 месяцев назад

You're absolutely right, that's the ladder of Apple. They're doing this for every product and mastered it. Apple fooled you and took your money however you're satisfied with your purchase.

@louisevans8838 8 месяцев назад

I got the M3 Pro too, and upgraded the RAM and I don't regret my choice! :)

@jackdominiak445 8 месяцев назад

I'm typing on my new M3 14" It's more than enough, although I did up the RAM to 16gb for future proofing, because I don't need it now. I also thought about going for the M3 Pro, however that would have been another $200 on top of the $200 for the extra RAM, I'm never going to use external monitors, nor the extra Thunderbolt port, also the space black doesn't rock my boat, I chose the silver, real classy and clean looking. Both are great machines, good luck with yours.

@oliverniehaus7159 8 месяцев назад

@@jackdominiak445 that's very fair, although I will say having the extra thunderbolt port is a game changer for me in ways I hadn't expected. Being able to charge from either side of the device is amazing, didn't know what I was missing before. Also I was upgrading from a 2017 intel base MacBook Pro, that computer can drive two external displays. I'd be damned if I was gonna buy a new computer that was in some way less capable than my 6 year old device, kinda stupid tbh since I really never connect my macbook to more than one display since getting my Mac mini, but still that was definitely part of it. Overall your device seems to fit your needs though so glad you're enjoying yours and best of luck to you as well!

@Hof79905 7 месяцев назад

The bench markers are the Boss.

@bitwamet 8 месяцев назад

why the description of this particular video is confusing M3 base vs m3 pro right not both showing pro M3 and M3 pro little confused correct that

@clintmiller88 8 месяцев назад

that is the same story with the MacBook Air if you have the 512gb ssd it works fine I mean sometimes I use 4-5gb of swap... like with teams open 10 tabs and RU-vid playing in the background meanwhile other office apps like one drive and outlook and I dont notice a lag on the 13 inch MacBook Air and my daughter has a m1 MacBook Air but again it has 2 nand chips really the outlier here is the freaking m2 256gb is the only model to avoid.

@SuperGamerYoBros 8 месяцев назад

I think these are good tests, but I would argue that one. I’ve seen other content creators be able to push 8GB to its limit. In addition, I think that as time goes on one memory swap does have a negative effect on your SSD and two base model really gives you no headroom to grow. I think this base model is for students who need more performance then a MacBook Air, but don’t have the budget for an M3 Pro MacBook Pro. This laptop is also for individuals who want a laptop with the extra ports and maybe the better screen, but I don’t actually think most people care about that. In addition, the M3 is powerful but not enough to push the actual 120 Hz screen in applications where it is supported, and has a significant increase in enjoyment. Finally, it could be for individuals who potentially want to get a MacBook Air, but think they might want to do some pro level stuff at some point. You won’t be able to multitask if you’re doing certain pro level activities, like blender, and potentially exporting a lot of photos , but if all you do is a little bit of video editing, combined with some Excel, and and watching like videos and web browsing, then this should actually be fine.

@woofiooxx 7 месяцев назад

The other RU-vidrs always push tech to limited and go extreme …. M3 pro isn’t for massive gains just the Pro pro ..

@ruwndarwanchu8146 8 месяцев назад

Please can you compare M3 base with M1 Pro Base model.

@therealprofessorp6237 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for posting a great review. The only way to improve this video would be to include the 36gb ram version of the M3 Pro. Respectfully disagree that 8gb of ram is enough. My mac mini m2 pro with 32gb usually floats around 20gb ram used. Turn on Parallels, it gets to 28gb. The decision I need to make is the Black M3 Pro with 18gb or 36gb at 512gb storage. I need external monitors and Parallels.

@nartey95 8 месяцев назад

@therealprofessorp6237 Let me know what you decide because I am in the same boat and I am more of a machine learning person

@jackdominiak445 8 месяцев назад

If you use Parallels & more than one external monitor, then it's really a no brainer. However your use scenario is not typical of most base M3 users! Also if your Mac mini already gets to 28gb, what exactly are you thinking about?

@therealprofessorp6237 8 месяцев назад

@@jackdominiak445 I purchased the MMP when it first came out. In hindsight, should have waited just a little longer for a M2 Max Mac Studio and 64gb ram. The MMP gets warm to the touch when I use it and the cpu has so much overhead, it is just ram limited. My AI work (very small at this point) is in the cloud but the on machine is vms within Parallels. In a perfect world, the desktop would be 64gb and the mobile workstation would be 36gb. The 20gb just running is mostly Microsoft software like Teams, two instances of OneDrive, multiple tabs of Edge, and Office. I need a W11 environment for validation on both office machine and mobile workstation.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Nobody in the real world is comparing an entry level machine to a 36GB RAM M3 Pro, so that would not really be a useful test for a video like this. It could be useful when comparing Pro to Pro or Pro to Max though. Thanks for the comment/recommendation!

@therealprofessorp6237 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch The comparison of 8gb vs 18gb vs 36gb digs a bit deeper into the new M3 architecture and OS. Sonoma and modern Macos is like a goldfish.... they adjust their background services based on the system ram. Check it out for yourself. From a fresh install with nothing running or installed, what is the average memory consumption of an 8gb vs 18gb vs 36gb M3 / M3 Pro machine. The answer for the M1 and M2 varies based on actual memory. The reason for the ask is headroom and OS roadmap.

@michaelmalodrums9674 5 месяцев назад

The ram pressure was high in the yellow , give it a couple of years it will be lagging like crazy lol

@Leophotic 8 месяцев назад

Why this brandon video can be watched in PiP mode though I don’t subscribe to youtube premium?

@avieshek 8 месяцев назад

The swap memory is literally through the roof in constant

@happyjesus420 8 месяцев назад

Swap is hurting the Ssd in the long run right? How is it hurting?

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Not unless you're swapping all day every day for 15 years, which I highly doubt anyone would do. Read this: www.macworld.com/article/338844/how-worried-should-you-be-about-your-m1-macs-ssd-lifespan.html

@kenjikingofficial 3 месяца назад

@@BrandonButch100% agreed. Perfect logic

@Jayb3ar97 8 месяцев назад

I think the entry price point is the issue, sure give it 8gbs of ram but make it cheaper than it’s currently sitting maybe 100-200 less. Plus as a tech reviewer I’m sure you know in one sitting it may perform okay but what’s going to happen after say a year of use for a machine that expensive. I think that’s the wider concern for most people

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Why do you think anything will change after a year of use?

@aaronrodrigues 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButchover the years software would get more demanding, definitely not over one year but maybe 3 to 4

@andyH_England 8 месяцев назад

The base model is already $200 off in some places, Costco in the UK for example. The reason they have a base model is so they can discount it. If it had 16GB it would be disastrous as it would take sales from their higher margin models. No business would do something as destructive as that. Wait for a few months and the base will be even lower. You do not have to buy at launch!

@Jayb3ar97 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch that was just hyperbole I was just saying that after a while when updates are pushed etc it will degrade I expect. So for an investment of that amount it’s not great for the average customer. I actually think they should scrap the entry pros all together. Just start at m3 pro and up. Anybody not a pro-user can get an air

@clintmiller88 8 месяцев назад

As someone with a MacBook Air 8c/10c 512gb ssd and 8gb of unified memory who has had it since launch there is no slowdown it runs just the same as day 1.

@RonaldBrown59 8 месяцев назад

Good comparison between the MacBook Pro's. I find it very interesting how well the M3 performs with only 8GB of ram. Great testing, and thanks for sharing.

@LordBagdanoff 6 месяцев назад

How’s the battery on m3 pro

@Georgiaboy_ 8 месяцев назад

I’m not surprised about this tbh I’ve used an 8gb iMac for photoshop and Lightroom at the same time and it was super smooth

@Muttinodo 8 месяцев назад

Can you compare the two in terms of the battery on web browsing/video playing? I really wanna know if with the basic tasks, the M3 would last longer than M3 pro as advertised or not.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

M3 is definitely lasting longer than M3 Pro for me. Though only by a couple of hours

@Muttinodo 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch thank you!

@arozendojr 3 месяца назад

Do you know how you can clear swap without turning off your MacBook? On Linux it was swapoff -a ; swapon -a

@evilspoon6833 7 месяцев назад

you need to make a read comparison, the real difference between 8 and 16gig ram, comes into play when the machine runs on batteries. The more the machine needs to swap the more power it uses, which means lower battery life. And since we are talking about laptops, battery life is kinda important, how many monitors you can attach to the machine is irrelevant, because if have this requirement you're in 99% of the cases better off with a desktop. Use the tool for what they are made for, EG a laptop is for mobility, F1 racing car is .... and so forth.

@Flyb4ck 7 месяцев назад

10:52 Is the rendering paused?

@CarRepairsMadeSimple 8 месяцев назад

I wouldn't necessarily say you shouldn't upgrade to 16GB of RAM. Of course it's going to work just fine because it's a brand new product. If I'm spending $1600+ on a laptop, it better perform good! But how good will it work in 10 years from now? Not everybody wants to upgrade their computer on a regular basis, it gets very expensive very quickly. I have a base mid-2014 MBP with 8GB RAM which was the first model to standardize 8GB. After 9 years, it still works good enough, but it's starting to show its age, mainly due to lack of RAM and a processor that can't swap memory as fast as todays processors. Had I spend the extra $200 for 16GB of RAM, it would probably be working almost like new still to this day, excluding any high end rendering times. I have a feeling todays 8GB macbook pros aren't going to hold up as well over time, and I personally would recommend the upgrade if you're like me and plan on keeping your computer for a long time. Great review otherwise!

@shameermulji 8 месяцев назад

Generally, I like to upgrade my system every 6 to 8 years.

@CarRepairsMadeSimple 8 месяцев назад

@@shameermulji for everyday use and simply video editing, you could get away with the base 8GB most likely after 6 years, but I guarantee these machines will slow down over time quickly as software develops and becomes more complex.

@tomlewis4748 8 месяцев назад

is 8 GB enough? It depends on what you use the Mac for. But recent testing has revealed something unexpected in the M3 and Apple's 'unified memory' in the MacOS. While it seems logical that low-level, low intensity tasks don't need much memory, which I think is true, even low-level, low-intensity tasks, even if run singly and not with lots of tabs open or other apps running, run significantly slower with less memory. Identically configured 14" M3 MBPs with the 8-core CPU option, other than one having 8 GB (the base model) and the other 16 GB (a $200 bump), perform even low-level tasks faster at 16 GB than they do with 8 GB. And these are CPU-only tasks, so the beefed up GPU in the M3 is not a factor here. That was really surprising. So there is an advantage to bumping up the storage to 16-18 that goes beyond what would be the expected benefits of doing that, making the 11-core and 12-core models even better options over the base model than would have been expected, and the bump to 16 in the base model is also a better option, all for reasons we were not expecting. All the high-intensity stress testing does show differences, as would be expected between M3, M3 Pro, M3 Max, Ultra, and beyond. But what is hidden here is that simply bumping up the base model 14" to 16 GB makes it faster than the 8 GB model. Same config, same SSD, but 16 GB rather than 8 GB. The OS identifies how much memory is on board, and utilizes it differently, depending, which ups the performance level, even on low-level tasks. Bottom line, 8 GB is fine for Googling, emailing, texting, and for Pages and Numbers. If you don't have any intensive tasks that need better performance due to an upgraded platform, you're still golden. But it WILL BE slower, even on minor tasks. Whether that is 'significant' to a user is debatable, but whether it is slower, is not.

@lovenspired 8 месяцев назад

I like your comment. These are interesting observations you called out and leads me to appreciate the use of unified memory systems in Apple MBs vs traditional memory. In unified memory systems, the RAM is shared between the CPU and the GPU which allows for more efficient use of resources and can enhance overall performance of CPU-only tasks when moving up from an 8GB UM to 16GB UM. Thoughts?

@doomister1413 7 месяцев назад

i like this comment. Right. Big size ram means that cache(cpu command set) detection rating is high. So, large ram is greater than small ram.

@YiZuSc 3 месяца назад

Who buys the pro version to perform those easy tasks that any Iphone or ipad should be performing flawlessly.

@smoscar 7 месяцев назад

It would've been great to see the m3 max too

@maxverdad9634 7 месяцев назад

The MacBook Pro M3Pro base don’t have 16gb RAM but 18gb !

@dotnerdmyad 8 месяцев назад

I’m just learning video editing and want to be pro editor. I’m not that big of a multi tasker but I’ll use a device for at least 5+ years. So will the base variant of m3 MacBook pro be enough for me? Or I should rather invest on m3pro MacBook pro?

@clintmiller88 8 месяцев назад

future proofing is never a good idea you just spend more than you need but if anything get the most you can afford.. that is the rule of thumb unless your budget shopping then get the most for your money.

@jackdominiak445 8 месяцев назад

In your case scenario, I would definitely get the M3 Pro and Ive just bought the base M3 which I'm very happy with, but I don't do or plan to do video editing. Apart from more cores in both CPU & GPU it also has more bandwidth. There's not a lot to debate if I were in your shoes.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

If you’re video editing daily and earning from it, I’d say go 16GB of RAM or M3 Pro if you can stretch it

@hongkongfoamflinging 8 месяцев назад

Great video

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

🙌

@ceciljohn09 7 месяцев назад

In 3 years more likely to get 40% of trade in value for 16GB of ram. 8GB would be fine for next 3 years say on used or refurbished M1 Air.

@jwentzell 8 месяцев назад

8GB is not enough for pro development work. A few docker containers and you’ll quickly bog it down. Disappointing for a pro machine to not start with pro capable ram.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

A few devs have already chimed in saying M1 8GB of RAM was enough, can't wait to see what they say about M3!

@andyH_England 8 месяцев назад

This machine is a replacement for the MB Pro 13 M2 and is therefore not a Pro machine. The fact it uses the base M3 chip as seen in the MB Air M3 (coming soon) should be a clue? The Pro machines are denoted by their chips, so M3 Pro and M3 Max. The base model is purely an ultra book, made by Apple for those that need a fan. The Pro moniker is just a word and you should not take it literally, just branding, like iPhone 15 Pro. It means the best in the lineup, not that it is for pros!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jwentzell 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch I’ve watched devs on RU-vid say that 8gb with the m1 is not enough. A lot of devs online say even 16 gets laggy in Xcode projects.

@Noxlion28 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch a few apple devs said that I’m sure. 😂

@JBroMCMXCI 8 месяцев назад

Don't know how this guy can say 8GB is enough when using 2GB swap. Swap isn't meant to be used as RAM and using it like this will destroy the SSD

@jackdominiak445 8 месяцев назад

Regardless of how much RAM you have, a MacBook will always use SWAP, it just uses less with more RAM! This destroy the SSD is a fallacy 😏 maybe after 10/15 years of very heavy use 🤣

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

@@jackdominiak445 exactly.

@oceanelucas6469 7 месяцев назад

I'm hesitating between the M3chip and the M3Pro chip. I think the M3 chip would fit my needs but I really like the Space Black color and it fits my budget. However, I noticed some white lines linked to the use of the thunderbolts... Also, it has a 18hrs battery life, against a 22hrs one for the M3chip. What would you advise me to do? Thank you !!

@doomister1413 7 месяцев назад

it’s same with me.

@oceanelucas6469 7 месяцев назад

went for the M3Pro 16"!!@@doomister1413

@herevancelightena9770 4 месяца назад

Have you decide what you wanna go for? I’m still in dilemma

@ReidDesigns 8 месяцев назад

Very interesting that the 8gb is sufficient to do some pretty heavy stuff, the litmus test for me is how Adobe products fare on 8gb of ram….

@Fear.of.the.Dark. 8 месяцев назад

it wont work. Because it is not an app made by Apple themselves. This is why 16gb is a must if you are using Chrome or any third party apps.

@ReidDesigns 8 месяцев назад

@@Fear.of.the.Dark. considering Adobe's own RECOMMENDED requirement is 16gb. You COULD get away with 8gb, but not for heavy work.

@Jmbmediagrowth 7 месяцев назад

Not a computer guy but would a m3 base model be okay for zoom meetings sharing screen working on notion facebook ads etc just business tasks...anyone answer asap please haha thanks!

@BrentLeVasseur 7 месяцев назад

Try opening up 20 or so 100MB high res images in your favorite Mac Photo app like Photoshop or Pixelmator Pro and doing a batch resize on those images and see what happens! My M1 Mac Mini has 16GB ram and it DIES! A window comes up saying “close applications to free up memory” and then ultimately it fails and you have to quit/force quit your apps!

@alexandredanelon 5 месяцев назад

With 8GB of RAM, you should have to manage the apps in use. Open browser with short number of tabs etc. Actually I’m using a air m1 with 8G of RAM with a Linux VM. I need to open a max of 5 apps for a good usage. I want to get this MacBook Pro M3 with 18GB of RAM.

@deviagustina817 18 дней назад

if u want more better display and pro motion features but didn't care about performance,go for base model MacBook Pro m3 model

@rumbecker5085 8 месяцев назад

Interesting Max Tech showed the 8Gb taking 5 times longer for some tasks and more or less said 8GB sucks

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Yeah when testing 8K video editing, which absolutely zero people will be doing on a base model machine

@grzymsiu 8 месяцев назад

8GB is not enough even for web browsing for me these days, and we can all agree that web browsing is not a pro task by any means, and that swap values are showing that. If i will switch for a new machine it will be definetely m3 pro version, besides that poor ram, the cooling is even more poor and only one monitor support is kind of a joke for me. If i am not mistaken even low tier 2 port 13 inch MBP with intel could handle more than one monitor, and you cant tell that was a pro machine.

@SonicTheo 8 месяцев назад

I don't use many tabs and mine works just fine m1 mbp

@andyH_England 8 месяцев назад

Apple freezes and compresses tabs that are not doing anything, or even swaps them to storage if the AI suspects you may need them sooner. If you have 30 tabs, you are of course only using one or two and the others can be cached, frozen or compressed. If you use Safari this is very well optimised so you do not even notice when it is being released.

@hakim_isa 8 месяцев назад

how about battery life difference if you can add? is m3 significantly better? from specs looks like it but in real life?

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Noticing longer battery life on the M3 for sure. Still testing though so will give an update in a few weeks with more usage/data

@jhusoa 7 месяцев назад

Hi Anymore observations regarding battery life at all? Sort of in-between M3 and M3 Pro 14 inch at the moment. Would you say M3 is noticeably longer than M3 Pro?@@BrandonButch

@lor7780 8 месяцев назад

Do you think 8gb is enough for word documents, youtube, web browsing (20-25 tabs) and occasional apps such as spotify and whatsapp? Also considering that i won't be replacing it for the next 5 years?

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Yes, definitely. I think 16GB or M3 Pro is only needed if you’re going to be using pro-level apps

@andrewsedgwick7823 3 месяца назад

is m3pro required for photoshop and Lightroom @@BrandonButch

@davidkaplan5517 8 месяцев назад

The problem isn't "is 8 GB enough or not" It's why is 8GB of memory costing $1599...... They should've kept the $1299 MacBook Pro price intact based on the specs of this model.

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

If they did that then nobody would buy the MacBook Air. Wouldn’t make sense to price it anything lower than 1599

@davidkaplan5517 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch nobody’s paying $1299 for the MacBook Air right now it’s at Best Buy for $999. And beyond that-then fine bump the whole lineup to 16 GB. And if you wanna say the $1299 price isn’t compelling for the MBA even still-then charge $1399 or $1499.

@AndySchuylerVlogs 8 месяцев назад

How do you like the new M3 MacBook Pro, Brandon?

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

loving it so far!!

@adrijoker21 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButchdo you think IOS 17.2 or IOS 17.1.2 will fix the battery drain issue and lag issue on iPhone 14 Pro Max?

@jackdominiak445 8 месяцев назад

It's the least compelling of the 3 M3 Chips IMO

@AndySchuylerVlogs 8 месяцев назад

@@BrandonButch That’s what I like to hear, Brandon.

@sidharth1123 8 месяцев назад

Apple has sneakily made that luscious black exclusive on the Pro. That just might make me buy it even though I agree with you!

@BrandonButch 8 месяцев назад

Ugh Apple is smart for doing that because it's so compelling to get over Space Gray

@InimitaPaul 8 месяцев назад

The “black” Pro isn’t black unfortunately, it’s a slightly darker shade of Space Grey. They should have just went straight matte black but it saved me a couple of grand because if it had been in MB I’d now own a MBP I don’t need.

@marquezjohnston 8 месяцев назад

@@InimitaPaul Surprisingly, after seeing videos of the space black, I would rather have space gray.

@flyingpj 8 месяцев назад

@@marquezjohnstonsame!

@Fear.of.the.Dark. 8 месяцев назад

good job Apple's marketing is working for you. Now empty your wallets and give it to Apple asap!

@rudyhandoko9713 8 месяцев назад

i want to switch from windows to IOS , which one better is it macbook pro M3 or macbook air M2 15" is enough?

@skylarthehappychild15 8 месяцев назад

The price difference may be $300 USD at first, but If you configure the M2 15” Air to a similar configuration as the base M3 14” Pro with 8GB RAM and 512GB of storage, then the price difference between them will become $100 USD. For $100 USD more, you get a faster M3 chip, a fan to cool said chip to help lower the chances of overheating (depending on the task), a 14” Liquid Retina XDR display that improves the visuals of HDR content (plus a 20% brighter display in general SDR use and 120Hz ProMotion), an HDMI port, an SDXC card slot, and 4 more hours of battery life. In my opinion, you should go for the M3 14” Pro unless you plan on doing more heavy tasks.

@maxverdad9634 7 месяцев назад

But if 8gb RAM is enough in 2023 with Sonoma, it will be in 2024 MacOs and 2025 Macos ? Because who buy en entry level MacBook Pro I don’t think that want to buy a new one every two years

@DanRustle 8 месяцев назад

welp, ive been saying this for years. a base Mchip macbook pro should not exist. Also it amazes me that people only see numbers on a paper and think they know everything. 8gigs is fine for most people on a arm processors, too many people are stuck in the old mindset of intel chips and assume you need more than 8 gigs. apple has found a way to be more effient on a new 3nm chipset for basic use. this is an incredible feat

@SoYoung24 8 месяцев назад

Seriously, I don't see the point of browser benchmarks. Personally, I really don't see any difference between my intel i7 2020 iMac, my iPad pro m1 or silicon macs on Safari. All machines is very fast. The page still load instantly on my intel based mac so I don't really understand why some people give way too attention on how web browsing is amazing on silicon macs.