MacBook Pro vs. Dell XPS, Which is the Best Laptop for Engineers?

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Window Laptops have for a long time been the best laptop for engineers; however, is that still the case? The New M1 Max Macbook Pro is an amazing piece of engineering, and unlike a Window Laptop, it doesn't need to be plugged into it to run at full power.
To face off against the Macbook pro will be the Dell XPS 15.
This will be able to answer the question of what is the best choice for laptops if you are a professional engineer or studying engineering.
We will run through some of the most used software by structural engineers(Etab and RamConcept) to see which ones run faster. To ensure the software runs on the mac it needs to be run through Parallels a windows virtual machine.
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@BrendanHasty Год назад

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@erg-ni6ll Год назад

Hi. Was this the 12900HK model or just a 12700h? And if it was the HK, was it undervolted?

@dmb3428 Год назад

I use thinkpads for a portable cad laptop, bought a mac m1 14 out of curiosity and played with it for 2 weeks...started liking it but a certain lack of apps for it turned me off a little...build quality was basically perfection , I can see why people move to them for other tasks

@jn.pablovega8176 Год назад

You can do a comparison of how to use architecture programs, like Revit, 3Ds Max, Lumion on the MacBook?

@Unamatrix01 Год назад

Interesting comparative test between the Dell XPS 15 and the Apple M1 MacBook Pro. As a mechanical engineer that uses AutoCAD, Solid Works along with various plugins such as FEA and Cosmos along with some CFD software, I prefer my Dell XPS 15 9520 as my mobile work station and use my Intel based dual display work station in my home office and company office. The fundamental problem that the Apple MacBook Pro has is the lack of native professional engineering design and analysis software, thus requiring Bootcamp or parallels to be run. Since you are required to run the aforementioned Bootcamp or Parallels to use professional engineering software, you are therefore splitting system resources. The lack of a dedicated GPU also hinders the MacBook Pro's performance when not using natively written software that is optimized for its chipset architecture. For video editing and rendering the MacBook Pro is an ideal choice especially when using optimized software such as Final Cut, Logic for music production or X-Code for software development. Also, as the owner of my own drone photography, videography and inspection business on the side I appreciate the power of the new Apple M1 MacBook Pro's for video editing as well as photo editing, however I prefer Da Vinci Resolve and Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop on my desk top and laptop and Lumifusion and Affinity Photo on my M1 iPad Pro.

@shiveshp.3271 Год назад

You made that much easier for me (studying mechanical engineering) to decide which one to buy next as I'm due for an update.

@xylum_0866 Год назад

If I were to buy an XPS 15 laptop, would you recommend me adding a graphics card to it or sticking to the integrated graphics?

@JasonSulvaran Год назад

What do others recommend for a first year student? Eventually I know I’ll have to use these softwares everyone is saying since I will be majoring in engineering but I’m not sure which laptop I’m leaning towards.

@nathanieljohnabilar9376 Год назад

What parallel version do u use for structural designing programs? Is it the standard or the pro edition ?

@HariOmSharma-cw6rs Год назад

I saw that you used grasshopper. So, how to use it is my suggestion for next video.

@siddiqs2563 Год назад

Hey Brendan, I love your videos I just want to know which one is better BIM modeller or structural engineer. Since I like calculations and structure.

@BrendanHasty Год назад

You need both a good BIM modeller is wroth their weight in gold. You need both. Engineers design models detail and document. They go hand in hand you need both. Some BIM modellers started as enginneer

@samevans5903 Год назад

The problem with the Mac is that I'd find myself running parallels in order to only use Bluebeam! But I'll admit the mac is nicer device I think I'd rather be using. Which was running cooler? I note the mac doesn't have many (if any) dedicated fans.

@user-qt2cw8mk6n 2 месяца назад

Do you use revit?

@jeff2tc99 Год назад

We’ve used Dells for years. I’ve have never heard of a structural engineer using a Mac? My beef with Dell is their current JIT delivery model. Here in Indonesia their site service is hopeless. Pity as it’s a great machine.

@banelekheswa2979 Год назад

I am a 22 year old chemical engineering graduate. Any advice on which machine I should invest for my future in the industry I am currently in and hope to grow in? Particularly for Explosion and Toxic based simulation software (e.g Safeti) and Plant design (e.g ASPEN) simulations. I'm leaning slightly towards the Macbook coz of the hype around apple products, especially amongst my peers and the aesthetic. But I just wanna be sure if it'll be good for me regarding my professional goals in the long run. Please advise.

@Hummus-dm6hc 9 месяцев назад

What did you get

@garolstipock Год назад

Kind of surpised to not see Dell Precisions as the suggested Engineering option for the Dell laptop. XPS gets a lot of media hoorah, but its the workstation models that generally target the Engineering area.

@warburgaby Год назад

I have used the Precision series notebooks for fifteen years. Excellent, but obviously the battery lasts two hours maximum, even when new, they weigh a lot, otherwise ok, they last many years and if you have the onsite service option you're good to go. Despite this, after thirty years of Windows we decided to switch to Mac :)

@garolstipock Год назад

@@warburgaby Egad! 😮… BUT… truth is, that M2 is hard to beat, and its only gonna get better.

@bushrashahin5709 Год назад

I hope anyone helps me if it's better to get a macbook or not, I don't wanna pay if I'm gonna face issues in civil engineering programs!

@bautistap8515 Год назад

I will be changing from Xps 15 2018 (I7 8th gen 1050ti) to an M2 Pro in the coming months. I do not expect it to perform as well in CAD works for engineering, but it will greatly be better in battery, video-photo editing, programming, etc. I hope not to be dissappointed

@erg-ni6ll Год назад

programming?? are you sae my boy? I have an m1max 16 full spec and its a nightmare for me due to macOS and its incompatibility

@amandeep23man Год назад

@@erg-ni6ll Cap. Macs are a breeze to work with when it comes to coding.

@Mad.js08 Год назад

@@erg-ni6ll first of all,m1 macs were amazing for coding.But now,with m2 chips it is even better.

@eduard9088 Год назад

How is the Mac? It's it better then the dell?

@888berg Год назад

Was the Mac versions of the structural software running on Rosetta translation or M1 apple silicon optimised? Great video

@BrendanHasty Год назад

Hi 888berg, I had to run parrells to run the software, so it wasn't optimised for the Mac it would have been amazing if it was.

@erg-ni6ll Год назад

@@BrendanHasty well, just for some comparison. M1max 16inch: on parallels you get 40M primes/sec, on macOS you get 300M primes/sec.... Most important test: BullettScene CPU render: 408frames/sec on parallels, 2900frames/sec on macOS. And I'm giving access to all 10cores!! It can't get any faster than that on windows. Parallels windows is just disgustingly slow. I'm sorry but your comparison was useless and extremely unfair

@Ooze27 4 месяца назад

It's actually useful, im undecided between a macbook pro and windows laptop (i use a desktop pc for the really heavy work) and if you need to run parallels that apparently affect performance, that will be the most important metrics, since the video is oriented towards civil engineers and their work software and not some benchmark tests. A civil engineer obviously doesn't sit around doing benchmarks, we actually need to use the software that he showed or something similar to it.@@erg-ni6ll

@cjhickey5268 Год назад

I am going to be a freshman in college this year looking to get a laptop. I am a big advocate for apple having an iphone 14 pro max, airpods pro, and apple watch and am looking into getting the m2 series macbook air. A lot of people are saying to not get one because it cannot run a lot of programs necessary for the workload of an engineering student. Howerer, I already have a desktop that runs windows 10 and has 32gb of ram along with a 12400kf processor and a 2080 inside of it. Would I be okay to get a mac for notes and leave all of the heavy workloads to my powerhouse of a pc?

@1nemorevideo673 Год назад

What did you end up going with, I want to use a laptop for most school + personal use because of battery life, and desktop for cad?

@TheB657 8 месяцев назад

Have used a Mac all-in-one (integrated Mac monitor) and Windows for various engineering software. The Mac Air wins in certain respects and the Windows in others. What was shocking that the Mac ran a program that was allegedly developed on our university's super computer (in Simulink) while the Windows always got stalled and the system itself failed. I guess there is a difference in optimization for both companies. In Windows there are a ton of background apps running while the Mac seems to have mastered the technique of keeping unwanted processes at bay. Hence differences will be there. I used to create my designs for electronic circuits on windows and lay PCB tracks in Mac. The Mac. systems were also used for Testing of circuits designed. Tbh, the Mac can act as a good monitor and process quickly at times however Windows wins in the long run.

@pcaming Год назад

Running it through parallels, is probably the hamstring for the macs. Does it lead to many errors?

@BrendanHasty Год назад

I didn't run into any errors, it run perfectly. The VM would have hamstrung the Mac

@dykodesigns Год назад

The Mac runs quite impressive considering it has to do software emulation. It seems it has an edge over the Dell's XPS' GPU since the orbiting of the model was quite a bit smoother. I wonder how the Mac would compare to a desktop CAD workstation though. I use Revit on a daily basis with just a consumer class graphics card. Autodesk keeps recommending those expensive Quattro cards in their documentation, but I don't know anyone or have ever come across a buisiness / client / employer that uses these cards in their CAD workstations. In my experience a consumer card works allright as long as it's got stable drivers.The computer in my office is a built it yourself box from a PC parts supplier.

@BrendanHasty Год назад

Hi Dyko, I would love engineering firms to optimise for Mac. It seem to run better them the dell. I also did a build it your self computer for my editing PC loved the optimusation and picking the part. Thanks for the continued support.

@nascentnaga Год назад

@@BrendanHasty Until REVIT can run well on Parallels I think its DOA.

@simply6162 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty you can choose autocad 2024 which is optimized for mac. can you pls retest this video?

@bushrashahin5709 Год назад

so do you recommend macbook?

@ericwang2921 Год назад

Hi, I'm a first year civil engineering student looking to get a laptop for the next 4 years, I really want the macbook but am scared about software compatibility should i just get the xps 15?

@Rafael-xe6dl Год назад

Definitely get the xps

@Satoru_Gojo5 11 месяцев назад

What about mechanical engineering, what would be best? Personally I enjoy macs but I would like to know what would work better and help me be more efficient.

@jacobgallo2212 Месяц назад

Did you figure it out?

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

Hello Brendan what good laptop can I use for structural engineering design (etabs,csc Orion, protastructure,autocad) and it won’t lad or be too hot???

@BrendanHasty Год назад

Hi the Mac runs cooler and quieter. But may have comparability issues tho u haven't had any.

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty M1 Pro right 14”?? What issues are u talking about please

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty please respond sir😥

@HallowHSalih Год назад

This is a fact that all less experienced engineers should know, Mac computers are not for them, its only killing time as well as wasting money around something which is natively not built on their demand, the Mac OS is another cancer on the other hand because of incompatibility with Autodesk and Bently programs that widely are used by designers. Dell XPS and its sibling Precision are fit to purpose machines.

@user-rj4gw4tn3b Год назад

Also most of the machines controlled by computers port unfriendly to Mac😮

@mohitvats2211 Год назад

Sir, please tell me the best laptop for structural engineering work.

@BrendanHasty Год назад

The Mac is amazing tho you may run into some blocks. Dell is grate wish the software for engineers are optimised for the M1

@LuciousKage Год назад

Can you make test of Unreal engine 5 ?????

@888berg Год назад

I have a M1 max and its a shame so much technical software is WIN only... ANSYS, most of Autodesk (apart from auto cad and a few others)

@mohitvats2211 Год назад

Sir, could you please tell me the best laptop for the structure engineering purpose?

@BrendanHasty Год назад

AutoCAD run throught parrells. Haven't tried Ansys

@malcolmmutambanengwe3453 Год назад

Former Linux user here, that's why I went back to Windows. Shame because Linux Mint is such a good OS.

@piyushparas2876 Год назад

hey brendan i am a fresh master graduate in civil / structural engg could u suggent me how can i look for job in my field or how do i reach out companies ..?

@BrendanHasty Год назад

You can do your research and keep an eye on the job list of those companies, or you on try LinkedIn - many companies recruit from there nowadays. Good luck!

@piyushparas2876 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty hey brandon can you suggest me a paper or some sort of source to study on viscoelastic dampers. or can you tell me whether fluid viscous damper are differnet from visco elastic dampers ..?

@billj5645 Год назад

The M1 is a very powerful chip, OTOH there may be laptops that are faster than the XPS. Another issue- is the compiler for the Mac OS faster than the compilier for Windows? My experience is that laptop processors can be crippled if there isn't a good cooling system in the computer. Even the XPS will suffer from this. To get a good cooling system in a laptop you usually have to buy a laptop that is aimed at gaming, and along with that you have the best chance of getting the fastest available processor, faster graphics, and even a better screen. My office has switched completely away from desktop computer to laptop computers, and we typically use the business class Dell laptops that we lease. This way any employee can pick up their laptop and take it to a meeting or take it home with them if they have to work from home. I would be suspicious of using the Mac for engineering because of software limitations. We run RAM, Tekla, Revit, various StructurePoint programs, manufacturers software from Hilti and others, spreadsheets, and in-house software developed in C, Pascal and Python.

@nascentnaga Год назад

ETABs is running on the m1 with parallels. Its crazy how good it is. REVIT I can see crippling the M1 mostly bc REVIT is a bad piece of software.

@bikesrcooldan Год назад

Hi Brendan, what is the processor on the Dell XPS i7 or i9?

@BrendanHasty Год назад

Hi Dan, it's 12th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-12700H.

@yekutielbenheshel354 Год назад

I'm not an engineer. I've used Linux exclusively for about the last 10 years. It easily meets my modest, simple, business needs. But if I were a structural engineer I guess that would probably dual boot Windows and Linux. Primarily I'd probably use Windows, but occasionally I might boot into Linux to use some FOSS software that was similar to Windows software that I didn't want to purchase. No way, no how I would want to deal with a virtualized environment like Parallels unless I had to. I've dealt with virtualized environments several times before. They were always slow and/or buggy. They were always frustrating. For example, I played around with Wine on Linux a little bit. I hated it. It was way, way too slow. There's often a huge difference between what can be done and what should be done. Generally, running software natively is what should be done. If structural engineering software is native to Windows, and if I were a structural engineer, then that's what I would almost certainly run as my primary OS. And no, I'm not a fan of Windows. Not a little. Not at all. By the way, many software engineers use Macs. For them it’s often a sensible decision because Macs are generally very well made, fast, and are purchased for them by their employers. Usually all of the software they use is native to MacOS (and Windows and Linux).

@BrendanHasty Год назад

Hi, mac I don't have much Windows software. I got the mac mainly for video editing when travelling, which it is amazing for. Surprisingly, it worked well through parrells, but would have been amazing if run natively

@yekutielbenheshel354 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty Kdenlive is remarkably powerful and popular FOSS (free software) for video editing on Linux.

@jan-weber Год назад

I think engineers still should not use a mac. With parallels you lose a lot of power and to compensate that, you need a even more powerfull mac. But this cost a lot of money and does not make any sense. :)

@cyril.engineering Год назад

Windows is a telemetry nightmare. As an engineer, there isn't an excuse to leave windows on a daily driver outside forced alignment with IT. Even then I always put in for an exception and win. Ubuntu core mixed with a display manager of choice is my breadwinner. To benchmark graphical, I was able to demonstrate on two rigs that Windows has become so bloated, I can achieve higher framerates in triple A titles wrapping Proton. MacOS isn't terrible, but I have to gut the UI for a TWM and rebind to effectively develop. The default interface is of the Google philosophy. There's one way and it's my way. TLDR, comparing something to Windows is a dumpster fire. Dell supports Ubuntu by default on their prosumer lines. They also have LTS driver support.

@cyril.engineering Год назад

@@user-ii9cm7qq5f It's definitely an unending debate. You can substitute Proton and Wine now, and VM's are very fast on Ubuntu Core/DWM. However, I've only had one app I had no choice but to use a VM. I find dealing with Windows the worse alternative, but then again I am very proficient in both operating systems. That takes years. I do use the Autodesk suite, Matlab, perform simulation like CFD, and other modeling as I do engineering on the side.

@nascentnaga Год назад

sorry I didn't believe you but I downloaded a trial of parallels, ran windows 11, etabs 20 my m1 macbook pro has 32 gb ram and m1 pro base processor. It completely destroyed a massive iterative p-delta model I threw at it in trial mode.. 4 processors and 8 GB of ram What the hell!!!! Did you use basic Parallels as a demo? Or did you use PRO where you can use more CPU cores and more RAM?

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

Hello please I’m a student please can u try to install protastructure and csc Orion I’d like to know if it works for mac with parallel please

@kyordannydelvalle523 5 месяцев назад

It won't beat a laptop with discrete graphic card xd. Do it with 32 gb ram models and you will notice hiw window does it better than Mac especially if you use PC there just no comparison

@spaghettimeatballswow Год назад

Get a MacBook for personal use or WFH use, and a workhorse Windows laptop for running scientific applications or coding.

@akin242002 Год назад

Still not a far comparison. Dell XPS 15 had 32GB of RAM. The M1 MacBook Pro had 64GB of RAM.

@enriquechauca3921 Год назад

Idont think you need that many ram for engineering

@akin242002 Год назад

@@enriquechauca3921 No, but some people like to future proof or tab hoard recklessly.

@hazyproduct1692 Год назад

Can't deal with Windows's shit anymore.

@Martin-we1rm 2 месяца назад

Clean your laptop

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

Please respond to my question Brendan please

@BrendanHasty Год назад

Just did hope it help

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty I asked another?? Forgive I’m a student

@adebayoayomide2706 Год назад

@@BrendanHasty hello sir Please I need u

@simply6162 Год назад

BRUH WTF.!!!?!! U guys are using parallels on mac! under fcking emulation while comparing to windows? this is so unfair to macbook

@mikecast20 Год назад

how else would they run the necc programs? its for engineering idiot.

@kyordannydelvalle523 5 месяцев назад

Mac are not meant for engineering especially mechanical engineering

@eddieoconnor4466 Год назад

I mean....I'm sure the MacBook is good for some?...but I'll stick to my XPS 15 (7590) with an i7....32GB or RAM and two 4TB drives......and no...I don't run Windows I run Linux......and THIS laptop is FAST AF!...

@hermnkiel1080 11 месяцев назад

Hey mate, what about you graphics card are you with Intel ARC or Nvidia

@eddieoconnor4466 11 месяцев назад

@@hermnkiel1080 Well the Dell I have has an Intel NV167 UHD G-630 graphics card onboard.... While I don't really "pay attention" to that on my laptops?...when it comes to DESKTOPS?...I prefer AMD stuff...since I prefer AMD Ryzen CPU's.....but to each their own. I'm not a content creator, nor any kind of video editing techie....I'm straight up old school in that I use my machines more for development and entertainment....so thats Netflix...Amazon PrimeTV AppleTV etc..and they all look fantastic on ANY of my devices...(except for the Lenovo THinkPad T-430...that's strictly not for media consumption!...LOL!)