Mackie MC-450 _(Z Reviews)_ An Affordable DT1990

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@ZReviews 3 года назад

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@mattack_1412 3 года назад

nice house

@Narinjas 3 года назад

Just received them today :3 i am happy ... maybe a bit of a brake-in needed because left low Hz has higher dB in the left cup (where the wire comes in) then in the right where is more muffled.

@ethr95awd 3 года назад

Zeos 2020: Throw all your money at the wall until your wife leaves you. That's Audiophile! #classic

@madbuldog 3 года назад

SSSshhhhhhhh don't tell my wife that, she still hasn't grasped that concept.On the other hand all of my Audiophile equipment for my wife has an "declared price tag" of around "150~170$" ;)

@zamonian9525 3 года назад

@@madbuldog lol so I am not the only one who does this

@ironpusha 3 года назад

For those curious gamers the vmoda boom pro fits right into this and boom gaming headset

@millenwagon 2 года назад

What’s the imaging like on these headphones?

@landocal0 3 года назад

I like my headphones to sound like Elastigirl, flat everywhere but oh that bass.

@Narinjas 3 года назад

IDK how i missed this. THANK YOU PAPA Z.

@rubberduck8867 3 года назад

So I have the Mackie's and I think i prefer them to my PM3s not just the dt990s. Got them pluged into a bifrost> vali 2 (EH 6CG7 Tube) High Gain > Mackie mc-450s they destroy the 990s clean and actually I think I prefer them to the PM3s they are an absolutely amazing set of cans. The PM3s have the planar soudn and a bit of rumble which makes them more fun with certain types of music but the Mackies just sound right. I can't descrie it, but I consider these high end headphones personally. ZEOS YOU ARE SPOT ON

@ichewwie 3 года назад

"monitoring" and "open-back" i didn't think these words were going to be used in the same sentence

@WiiNV 3 года назад

L😷L Strange World! 🤯

@vergelsubang6003 3 года назад

L😂L. Don’t get too serious with his review. This is a reaction video and not a review, don’t be confuse.

@stanisawszczypua9076 3 года назад

Why? Have you ever heard about AKG K240? They are in continues production since 1974

@WiiNV 3 года назад

@@stanisawszczypua9076 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lSnY5Y0Jlbs.html

@stanisawszczypua9076 3 года назад

@@WiiNV I had older K240 Moniotor 600 Ohm, K240 Studio, K242 HD (velur pads attached wire "home" version) and M220 massdrop edition. Ohh and K270 Studio closed back variant with 4 drivers (2 per side put at an angle). Those K270 where exceptional. Also K301, K530, K550 and K701. And Y50.

@gregraye1396 2 года назад

I love your reviews this is great content

@michaelbridges3271 3 года назад

Hey Zeos any plans to review the Schiit Magnius? Would love to hear your opinion on it.

@ZReviews 3 года назад

Yeah.

@Quint_69 3 года назад

"Affordable DT 1990s? Ah these must be like $100" *Googles MC 450s* *300 fckn dollars* "Nope"

@mg9261 3 года назад

ouchie ouchie

@shoryuquinn 3 года назад

They're $200 now.

@Quint_69 3 года назад

@@shoryuquinn Chop it in half and we don't have a deal.

@turtturtleton2700 2 года назад

@@Quint_69 I'm guessing you have a very loose understanding of what affordable means. DT 1990 $599 MC-450 $299 or $199. Seems affordable to me.

@Quint_69 2 года назад

@@turtturtleton2700 No I know what affordable means. Affordable means I don't have to spend most of my paycheck on them.

@PotatoesMakeChips 3 года назад

The wire holder looks like a solid place to put some IEMs for a travel setup

@BlueSpirit. 3 года назад

I only like 20% of what DMS likes lol! The Sigva Phoenix is great.

@PaulStregevsky 3 года назад

The closed back version is the 350. It sells for $150.

@nine5746 3 года назад

finally headphones that can audiophile

@dcime1 3 года назад

Just bought these Z. Of course because you reviewed them so positively and they are only $200? For an open back, professional monitor headphones? Unheard of! These, as you say, these are for mixing and mastering. You say you are astonished to say they have an amazing baseline and are not boring. Endangered species, what animal? LMAO! Great review man and I agree with you.

@danielporter4194 3 года назад

How did they turn out?

@dcime1 3 года назад

@@danielporter4194 Not good. Ended up returning them. Not for audiophiles. Cheap option for mixing, I think. They were just not providing the sound as I ft was to be represented from some of my other, actual highline cans. Like my Focal Pros, or my M & D MH-40. They just don't "fit" in to my taste in critical listening. They are built well physically, but for me, it ended there.

@danielporter4194 3 года назад

@@dcime1 thanks for the heads up. Glad I didn't get them. Sounds like we have similar tastes.

@turtturtleton2700 2 года назад

@@dcime1 M & D MH-40 are far far from reference cans that is a consumer can it is literally a bose for audiophiles that hate the word bose(fyi I like there sound). And the Focal Pros heard them not got for mixing good balance but there is a reason no studio uses them. But you are not critical listening you are listening on good consumer cans.

@Leonid_Power 3 года назад

How do all of these openback mixing and mastering headphones compare to the audeze el 8, are they over all better sounding or just more neutral or even more detailed?

@towatchvids 3 года назад

Nah Zeos don't feel like you can't say you like something when you actually do. I'm sure these Mackies are as good as you say. I got the Sivga because I trusted that if you liked it I probably would also, and I wasn't let down. Now that the honeymoon phase has ended on them, I still like them and will keep them. I'm not selling anything to replace them either, I'll just wait till I find something even more fun and I'm a sucker for wood cans. DMS can keep those 560s with it's paper thin low end. Still love my Beyer Amirons, Denon D2k lawton, Aeons and all the other randoms that I keep sitting around lol

@nerfgunner13 3 года назад

Slightly off-topic for this video, but something I'd like to share. I was looking for a new portable dac/amp because my Topping NX4 spends most of its time at home connected to my laptop and powering t50rp mkIII or dt990 250ohm. Zeos not long ago mentioned the iFi Hip Dac, and since I often use the bass boost on the Topping I decided to give it a try. I'm enjoying it so much for portable use that after roughly 2 months of use I've ordered the Zen Can to keep at home. TL;DR : fuck you Zeos for costing me money, but bless you for your work.

@IskrenMitkov 3 года назад

You really need to check out the Austrian audio X55 or the Avantone Planar

@martinmedrano 3 года назад

Hi zeos i recently baught a pair of klipsch rp 600m's and i was wondering what receiver would be a good match for these around the 300 or less price range. I am looking to connect the receiver to my desktop through the line out jack. Thank you in advance.

@enriquekikzdelapazbichain1126 3 года назад

i love your weeb oasis for reviews, i´ll suscribe rn

@mannymakesmusic891 3 года назад

what software do you use for music and how do you get your wallpapers as the background while still having text on the screen, I am highly interested.

@cjesticvibe 3 года назад

awesome review! will you be reviewing the new mackie 8 inch sub?

@reflection1119 3 года назад

Isn't the Focal Clear Professional meant for monitoring too? I'd also recommend the Ollo Audio S4X for flat open studio headphones. They sound lush!

@nixx5490 3 года назад

I'm not sure but I think the focal clear pro is the same as the standard focal clear but with an extra pair of pads and an other cable

@reflection1119 3 года назад

@@nixx5490 I think you're right but it's definitely advertised by Focal as the headphone equivalent of their studio monitor speakers... Maybe Focal have been a little "creative" with their marketing on the Clear Pro's (given that the are essentially the same as the Clear)... But interesting to hear what ppl think, especially anyone who uses the Clear Pro's in the Studio

@thecommandmaster4354 3 года назад

A lot of headphones are advertised as monitoring but those headphones arent flat enough imo

@reissnock5483 3 года назад

was just wondering if you would ever consider doing a review on the steelseries gamedac i have one but im under the impression its a gimic compared to some of the same price?

@swissdonut8304 Год назад

How do these compare to the X2HR? Would the imaging on these be better?

@NotOrdinaryInGames 3 года назад

Monitoring/neutral open back headphone is my fetish. YES PLEASE.

@slinkman79 3 года назад

The Somic. Exactly.

@yujinpark6374 3 года назад

Would these not compete more closely with the ATH-R70X?

@Huzaimie_99 3 года назад

Great marketing as always Z...

@joneskull 3 года назад

Review the new Kef LS 50 Meta next or riot

@JamesWoo1 3 года назад

does it work with the V-MODA BoomPro Microphone? thanks 🙏

@giga1262 3 года назад

Completely unrelated but can someone pls tell me if the fiio btr5 can drive the tin p1?

@BlackoutVHS Год назад

did he ever listen to the close back version? im looking for some cans i can use when im on the road. which is 25% of my time

@mentaloutonline9876 3 года назад

you should try all the mackie mc series

@shoryuquinn 3 года назад

They're $200 now. Worth it.

@randalllawkin 3 года назад

Still have my Superlux

@magicdude2333 3 года назад

Very important question. Will you be getting the tin p2's? Just saw them on drop yesterday and can't w8 for a review of them.

@ZReviews 3 года назад

I has them, Will review.

@rubberduck8867 3 года назад

@@ZReviews UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Wonder if they are a noticeable step up from my P1s, which I love

@matthewfitch2456 3 года назад

hows the sound stage and imaging? i use shp9500 as my gaming/standard use. (everything but music lol). would these be suitable replacements?

@hedrickoYO 3 года назад

I too must know. Loved my 1990s for FPS gaming but had gave them up..

@ZReviews 3 года назад

It isn't super wide. But will beat 9500's. Imaging is likely gonna be better just because.

@matthewfitch2456 3 года назад

@@ZReviews thank you papa Z

@JamesWoo1 3 года назад

I am interested in these for gaming use too especially for competitive FPS. I am on Fidelio X2 plus the v moda boompro. wonder if these mackie work with v moda boompro too?

@soundhead18 3 года назад

Lol Great Audiophile definition

@Washyourbellybutton 3 года назад

Every 10k subs you should review a headphone you hate 😁

@dilupus 3 года назад

What professional studio environment actually uses high-end monitoring headphones? Most I've seen use relatively cheap ones like DT 240's, if they use "monitoring" headphones at all and not off-the-shelf speakers or headphones.

@paultisch3338 3 года назад

I think the vast majority of audio engineers do all their mixing and mastering on speakers, and headphone use is mostly reserved for musicians while tracking (thus, closed-back) with the possible exception of occasional detail work that benefits from taking the room out of the equation. However, if mixing/mastering at home in a less-than-ideal room for speakers, cans like these are probably a solid replacement. Headphones are probably also good to use for editing film/radio/podcast audio.

@rdtstudios 3 года назад

You got to check out the OllO S4X

@bondiger1 3 года назад

Pp check price again 199 on Amazon for 450 this is a steal and good price

@jeewoo7195 3 года назад

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT HD 600s??!?

@morior3027 2 года назад

What about the 250s?

@Audfile 3 года назад

I cant think of any reason to not run my DT770s.

@therealchickentender 3 года назад

Um hello? AKG 712 Pro ........ ?? My all-time favs forgotten and ignored in this presentation. :)

@beezlebub3955 2 года назад

Oh Stylooooooooo

@MadMensDen 3 года назад

They look like adult Takstar Pro 82s

@jasonfranciosa 3 года назад

How do these compare with the Sundaras?

@ZReviews 3 года назад

Totally different sound. These are narrower and thicker.

@simsni59 Год назад

What about Shure srh1440

@aceofspades6667 3 года назад

Mackie is a company I respect but will never buy from... I give 0 fugs about monitoring equipment. I will say I sit at a local pro audio retailer that has a "monitoring studio" that you can demo their equipment at. I listened to the Yammy HS8, Audio A8X, and Focal Solo6 BE 6.5s and they were all quite impressive. Obviously each stepped up from a $350 per speaker to $750 to $1500 per but you could clearly hear the difference as you stepped up. I had fun demo'ing them for 90 min but not sure I would want to spend the cheddar to have them at my desk.

@Sl0baZl0ba 3 года назад

They realy look like Somic V2 headphones

@hereticyes1380 3 года назад

yeah noticed the same thing

@stanisawszczypua9076 3 года назад

Because they really are a rembrand of Somic. Just like Status Audio OB-1 in the past. Well the pads are better and they add detachable cable. But its not a 300$ pair of headphones.

@intoitreviews 3 года назад

When you gonna send me that K712 Pro ;) ?

@emilnagy3549 3 года назад

Off topic but what's that golden amp ?

@ZReviews 3 года назад

FLUX Fa12s

@totallylegit4092 Год назад

Soft leather usually comes from sheep

@m4nc1n1 3 года назад

These are $300 and the closed-back (MC-350) is $200. Interesting. Also, these are 42mm and the closed are 50mm

@diederick-fritzojeda361 3 года назад

You sure that’s a running man? I thought he was doing the Egyptian lol

@towatchvids 3 года назад

Reminded me of the Insane clown posse hatchet man lol

@mrgreytea2598 3 года назад

Mkay

@helionimbus4816 3 года назад

I see that fucking Yotsugi figure 👀👀👀

@bear8myparents734 3 года назад

I miss Chewbacca. Please Bring back your co-host.

@ZReviews 3 года назад

She makes an appearance. And now she is allowed back in the basement. Had to remove bee

@towsifshahriarshovo 3 года назад

Sivga Phoenix or this??

@ZReviews 3 года назад

Straight Pleasure? Phoenix. These can do work.

@denny8360 3 года назад

KZ ASX/ASF ^^^^^

@Microwave414 3 года назад

They look like status audio ob-1's

@stanisawszczypua9076 3 года назад

Because those and Status Audio OB-1 were rebrand of Somic V2

@korgas9617 2 года назад

Philips Fidelio x3 better

@colt2266 3 года назад

Looks exactly like the status ob-1 except with different pads and grill / backing.

@ZReviews 3 года назад

They do have a similar build but i don't think it is a china rebrand.

@sssVeee Год назад

status audio ob-1 shell

@Taffy84 3 года назад

These are over $400.00 CAD on amazon Canada. Too much and the cups don't look big enough for my ears either.

@joshuawierzbicki5642 3 года назад

Do these require a amp?

@RafiGish 2 года назад

They're not that hard to drive, but yeah you want some form of amplification to get the most out of them.

@brhoom2013 2 года назад

Why no buddy talking about this iems company!!!!

@Lopes736 3 года назад

I want to buy a new budget pair of headphones. I need suggestions Im considering these: MDR-XB550AP HD 400S JBL Tune 500

@kidterminator3623 3 года назад

Hey Z, what happened to the Verum Ones?

@ZReviews 3 года назад

I have them. The end.

@Dedgyblazer 3 года назад

16:04 real face reveal :O I feel like you were gonna poke out my eyes

@BitchinSpectre 3 года назад

Mackie huh?

@garethbeedie8070 3 года назад

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@rashadwhite849 3 года назад

00000 Styloooo

@sonicthehedgehog989 3 года назад

Its quite weird. I tried those same headphones at namm2020. They were uncomfortably bright. The high mids and the highs were so sharp and not in a good way. And the bass sounded boomy and one not, as if the driver is slow to react. Just like the ndh20 in this regard smooth boomy bass, and not fast transients ,it smears some details, that you can hear clearly on the dt1990 for example. Also the ndh20 has a peak in the treble somewhere around 9 - 10khz, its not higher than the bass but it's super annoying. The scooped mids make pianos sound like they're covered in a blanket. And the sound stage is even worse than the Mackies. It's a disgrace for these two headphones to be compared with the dt1990 pro. I took my trusty Adam audio sp5 to the show. And it destroyed these Mackies at every single category including soundstage. From my visit to the show I ended up buying the Austrian audio hi x55 and the hedd audio headphone, both of which were magnificent and extremely detailed. The dt1990, Adam audio sp5, Austrian audio hi-x55, are excellent professional headphones, they provide you with all the details without comprising anything, and have quality drivers in them, with great transients. If your budget allows get the heddphone, its better but you won't be disappointed by those other options in the slightest.

@mattialemboluscari8774 3 года назад

I stopped reading when I looked at the sp5's.

@sonicthehedgehog989 3 года назад

@@mattialemboluscari8774 oh yes cause zeos hates it. Lol Meanwhile professionals gave it 5 stars, and it has an amazing frequency response graph. And me myself I worked on video games sound effects as a side assignment, but I stopped due to covid. So critical information needs to be presented at all times. Zeos is no professional as far as I know, or see, lol he doesn't even show graphs ( which don't lie or have interests lol). Me as a headphone enthusiast I use other headphones for enjoyment, but not for work.

@turtturtleton2700 2 года назад

@@sonicthehedgehog989 Yea and graphs can be completely meaning less. They just show a general idea of what the headphone sounds like. Dude talks about graphs but loves the ear rape that is an Ultrasone in sheeps clothing the Adam audio sp5.

@sonicthehedgehog989 2 года назад

@@turtturtleton2700 which happens to be the headphone I referenced when I said response graph. I can understand that s-logic doesn't work with all people, which is a huge knock on ultrasone in general, but man when it works it works very well, it depends on the ears size and shape. So according to what I hear and some other folks hear too, its amazing. Hope that cleared the confusion capisce.

@turtturtleton2700 2 года назад

@@sonicthehedgehog989 So I have heard but ultrasone's and the SP5 are not neutral headphones very bright. And the SP5 did not get rave reviews some good but most echoing the same thing always echoed by and s logic phones that they are too bright to be considered neutral. One headphone that you can say got 5 star reviews and was reviewed almost everywhere would be the AKG K371.

@AtomicWaffle14 3 года назад

Just cause she's flat doesn't mean she's boring haha

@Ray-er4sj 3 года назад

Zeos pls consider reviewing steelseries arctis pro wireless cuz they actually wont bring u back traumatizing memories of barney the dinosaur's theme song

@mrcrunch8000 3 года назад

Wtf, I thought these are supposed to be "an affordable DT1990"? $300 and look cheap af. If that wasn't bad enough the sound demo makes it seem like an even worse deal. Isn't that headband the same thing that was on an old $28 headphone reviewed a long time ago? The sound demo definitely doesn't compare to a DT1990 either. There is clearly some funkiness going on if the sound demo is anything to go by.

@Nemo9291 3 года назад

They definitely inherit from the Somic MH463, which is not something that I would say durable

@turtturtleton2700 2 года назад

The sound demo means nothing. I do not even know why Zeos or anyone even bothers with them. There is absolutely nothing to be gained from listening to a sound demo of a headphone you do not own on a headphone or speakers you do own.

@turtturtleton2700 2 года назад

@@Nemo9291 Only shares a design similarity not same materials.