From the high-definition remaster of the 1984 film "The Super Dimension Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love?" This video is intended as a tribute to this classic movie. If you have the opportunity to buy it for yourself, you should.
Max's duel with Miriya remains one of the most beautiful and brilliantly pieces of animation, two angels of death crossing gun sights, both facing an equal for the first time in their lives. Max's desire to live, was just slightly stronger than Miriya's. While both were expendable pawns in the grand scheme of things, Max had a life outside of the killing to survive for. The Zentradi had been so perfectly bred for war, they couldn't even comprehend an end to the madness.
I like CGI in anime when its done right but this movie will probably live on in my mind as one of the best cell animated movies ive seen. My mom took me to the theaters to see this as a kid who could barly talk but i remember this well and is what made me love mecha so much lol
No, but it's the best anime during that time period it was released. I got to admit among the Macross franchise I got to say it's my favorite series. It's quite depressing that the aboard the ship vessel Minmay, Hikaru, Misa, and their child disappeared in the year 2016 never to be seen again. It was the first ship to set into space on a mission searching for life forms etc. I do hope they put this issue as a main topic in the new series that's in the process of being created which is called Macross Delta.
Andy Yang I don't know, I think Nausicaa has held up much better than this movie and it came out the same year. This movie seemed to have pretty inconsistent animation, with the good animation going to most of the battles, and the other parts getting the lazy animation.
I remember reading somewhere that the main reason the creator of Macross made this movie was to show what the animation in the series would've been like if he'd had the time and money, he was never happy with some of the segments of the original Macross show that were outsourced to some of the Korean animators (I'm not knocking Korean animation).
Yea, ive watched documentaries about how the production was a nightmare. Thats why the second saga looks weird and off from tthe original saga. thats because that supposed to be a completely unrelated anime, but they made it as the second saga of the series. Similar to what mario 2 is and how it looks completely different from ther first mario. it was supposed to be a different game.
TV anime is always riding the ragged edge of production schedules. There's a funny story involving the Gamilon enemy race from Space Battleship Yamato during it's initial production run that is startlingly similar to a problem that the Star Trek pilot episode (with Captain Pike) had during it's production. There was a sequence involving an Orion Slave Girl dancer (you know - the archetypical "green skinned babe"). Every time they got the film print of that sequence back from the developer and ran the film, she wound up standard white! So they filmed it again and again, adding darker and darker green body make-up and it STILL kept coming back with the girl looking Caucasian pink-skinned! Finally Roddenberry had enough of this and went to the film developer and asked around. Turned out the people developing the film kept thinking the green girl was a MISTAKE and kept color correcting it! He had to personally sign off a specific instruction that he WANTED GREEN!!! So - the Gamilons - were always meant to be blue skinned. But they were sending the animation instructions for these sequences to a company in Korea they were farming out the animation to. And for the first 10 episodes the Gamilons were white-skinned just like the Earth characters. Similarly - Nishizaki had to actually get the head of the animation company on the line personally and make it VERY CLEAR (I think there was some harsh language involved - but nobody is willing to be so impolite at this late date to say so) that the GAMILONS ARE BLUE. NO - I REALLY REALLY MEAN IT! So they turned blue. Infamously in episode 11. This isn't as noticeable if you're watching the show on a WEEKLY basis and there are no recording machines available. As a viewer, you might have the thought - "weren't they a different color before?" but there was no way to confirm that as fans in the early 70s! But as someone watching Star Blazers on a 5 day a week schedule in the early 80s - and recording it! - it was VERY NOTICABLE INDEED! Just goes to show the HELL an animation production can get into - particularly sci-fi shows. On the OTHER HAND - the remake of Yamato used this particular issue to it's advantage by making all of the more prominent early Gamilon characters (the ones the Yamato only encountered in the Solar System) be of a CLIENT race the Gamilons had previously conquered - thus adding some very intriguing layers of context to the Gamilon Empire! They got to have it BOTH ways - and made it work BETTER in the remake! 😎
The original series and this movie too do paint Max as someone who is just very good at this whole "aerial combat" thing, without making him obnoxious or a mary sue.
No, the reason hand drawn isnt the best... You cant mass produce it...which wastes too much time. The artist can't move onto the next idea fast enough. Creativity becomes limited to the speed of the draw. With technology you can produce and save your style, you can provide tools for subordinates to use in production. You create a legacy/style that can be easily produced by subordinates. Long after the original artist is gone, their style can be traced onto new works. Technology allows an artists 'essence' to remain across multiple projects. Hand draw is a piece of art for history to observe. Technology allows the artist's essence to live in projects created by their peers, audiences will be excited by the artists style long into the future, in other projects. Kind of how rap music appropriated classic Motown hits as samples in new works. I'd love to see this Max and Milia scene 'motion captured' to a 3D animation work with different characters in a different story. I know I would recognize the original artists signature in that work. The same way you recognize the sampled pieces of music in a rap track. The sadest thing I can think of is this fantastic piece of animation work being lost to time. I'm moved by the energy and sentiment in this work. How Max and Milia both met their match in combat, and how the duel became a sort of deadly love play. It's a great work that needs to be preserved. Thank you for posting this. I dont like the Robotech masters version.😁👍
@@vnelson000 3D isn't faster it could be just as good but it's not given the time to polish it up 3D suck's because because those in charge of making it treat it like fast food but saying it inherently is is just wrong in my opinion to me what you are saying is the same as saying goodwork is objectively wortless because it takes to mutch time
Man, she was so relentless in the movie! I love that scene earlier when she's blowing away Zentradi inside the ship where Hikaru and everyone else were being held captive. Wish the movie had explored both races more and introduced other Meltrandi.
the price for condensing a series down to a feature length movie. iirc it was later established that this is in fact a fictionalized recounting of space war 1 in a later series
I still put it a close (VERY close) 2nd to the opening battle, with Fokker's Skull Squadron taking on a swarm of battle pods only to have to rush back and defend the Macross before she makes the most gorgeous transformation scene in franchise history.
I disagree, check Miyazaki 's Porco Rosso or Yf-19 vs YF-21 from Macross OVA or Yf-21 vs Ghost X-9 from Macross Plus Movie edition or recent remake from Yamato 2199 or the 'realistic' dogfights in Area 88 Third Act.
cid76 I haven't seen Area 88, but yea the other Macross stuff was great. It's still pretty old though... like 20 years? Porco Rosso isn't exactly sci-fi even though it was awesome :p Yamato 2199... didn't dig the CGI stuff. I think traditional animation looks way better.
This was definitely a legendary dog fight scene in the history of anime, but there are other really awesome ones as well. I think one of my favorites is Gould (YF-21) vs. Isamu (YF-19) in Macross Plus and the very realistic opening dogfight in Macross Zero! Wow.
One of many rememberable scenes that has never left my head, whenever I hear the name Macross this scene comes to mind, along with Minmay singing Do you remember love, such a timeless master piece this is and looking at this scene, specially when you see both Max and Milia fight it out in the corridors of the ship, it is amazing how it is all beautifully animated, it just looks so gorgeous and captures the intense moment of the two duking it out. Now after seeing this I need to bust out my Blu-Ray and watch it again
Always wanted to know what Max said or did for them to be still enemies coming to terms as Milia is critically wounded and Max being by her side - on board an enemy vessel mind you - and then the next scene you see them, they're together gearing up in their mechs for the final battle - already in love. How did Max not get stepped on by the other Meltrandi? They probably spared him since he bested their ace pilot and had stayed to help her.
Plot holes aside, it was a nice nod/reversal where Milia joined up with Max and flew her red Valkyrie alongside his blue Valkyrie. Seeing a Zentraedi-sized Max flying a Queadluun was cool as hell. The Meltrandi obviously made a few concessions given the circumstances.
well max its a genius, and hikaru was a monster one tier bellow him....poor squad of mirya got demolished like when hikaru was in the frontline fight at space...
He was probably taking part in the bigger battle after they got separated. Hikaru is a good pilot and I have no doubts he has a good chance of surviving battles.
Not a single frame of Computer effects/animation of any kind - all acetate cel-painted in the traditional manner - 40 years later - and it STILL looks better than 90% of anime these days!
the attention to detail also, Max transforms with the missile pods attach to the wings so they cant fully retract in Batrroid mode, when he rolls it to dodge the shots when he comes out of the smoke to start shooting the wings are broken.
This is movie boy, try to compare to movie tier animation nowadays. Of course this would exceed most normal anime quality, but so do modern movies compared to 80s and 90s anime lmao
I always loved the little touch where Hikaru's instruments give a warning and you can see Max reacting a split-second before Kakizaki buys it. Edit: and you can even see what appears to be a muzzle flash or something coming from far in the distance as the poor doof gets sniped right out of his cockpit. I'm not sure it was visible in the low-def version.
@Mäkirannantörmä This movie's actually an in-universe cinematic retelling of the tv show, so in this case they're acting out an encounter that happened in the original Macross rather than performing an actual military defense. You can see the show equivalent of the dogfight part of this in this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZazVwBlz9fc.html
For 80s indeed, if we consider 90s we can include also Macross Plus (OVA and Movie) Gundam 0080, 0083 and Gundam 08th......Evangelions technically aren't true mecha, more like technorganics
Fortunately Tatsunoko who directed Power of the Primes did beautiful gorgeous key animation like this and it shows. The quality and stylistic finesse is top quality.
One thing I have always loved about anime vs American cartoons is the killing off of characters. It makes the show seem more realistic that not everyone lives to fight another day. Its one of the things that I liked about The 80s Transformers the movie as a kid (The killing off of many original characters). Yes, most replacements sucked and post the movie the show lost a lot of what made it popular, but the fact it took place in the future and most originals were not brought back to life made my favorite character (jazz) seem that more special since he never died throughout the series.
Macross: The Movie is my all-time favorite Anime Film. It is hands down one of the most artistically detailed Japanese animation films ever made. It still looks great 40 years later! This battle scene in the film is one of my favorites - Max is one highly skilled pilot!
Three-ship Flight Formation is hopelessly outdated. Brits used to fly like that in WW2. Now everyone flies Finger Four formation for mutual support. Kakizaki would still be alive if he had a wingman.
Actually no - that was his own doing - he still had missile pods on the wings and thus had to keep them deployed out - but had to make a split-second decision to roll out of the way of Milia's fire. His wings snapped off in the roll. That's still a good eye you have to catch that!
2018 and Milia's smirk inside the battleship docking bay thinking she already got Max is still super sexy. Awesome but too bad the events of how the fight actually ended between them wasn't shown in action, aside from Queadluun (16.8 meters) looking like it was almost totally obliterated lying on it's back as seen from the angle of its foot pointing at the ceiling with Milia almost fully ejected from what is left of the cockpit/torso lying in the same position and what seem to be a headless or retracted head silhouette of Max's VF-1S (12.68 meters) on top or sitting besides the downed enemy unit. One has to wonder how did it turn out this way and without having any of the units explode adds to the awesomeness of these two as skilled pilots.
Holy macross! The sfx explosion on Kanzaki from Rick ship sounds totally tremendous... first time I hear it so strong and loud... (really I tought that was a real lightning near my house). Wow!
Hell, Macross: DYRL , Macross II: Lovers again, and Macross Plus were far better than what came out after them. Even Macross Zero was better. Macross 7, Frontier, and Deta. Were were all utter rubbish.... It got too ridiculous and goofy at times.
@@RedWolf777SG Well that's just your fucking biased opinion dumbass. I'm an old school Macross fan for the past 36 years and I like Frontier and Delta. You only appreciate the war and mecha side of the show and can't stand the idols which are quintessential part of the Macross franchise. You're not a real fan.
Well that's just you. I like both the new and old Macross series. Nothing wrong with CGI effects as there are methods direct hand-drawn animation can't do.
To be fair, Zentradi and Meltrandi battle suits are more likely the Iron Man suit. Humans use robots the size of buildings, so in terms of size they are in same conditions.
@@sevenfifty7650 My nephew and I always use that term when we are in a confused state lol when I watched this Movie back in the early 90's that line always stuck with me lol
confirmation bias. A lot of anime in the 80's and 90's were terrible, we just didn't get as much of it in the states,... because who would want to spend the money (as it was far more expensive at the time) to localize something of poorer quality? Now, with everything being much cheaper to do, we're simply experiencing a flood of mediocrity that we didn't get when they had to carefully select only certain specific properties to bring over. ... and if you're VERY very lucky, not destroy with a terrible dub (a la the vast majority of AnimEigo's English dubs)
Max broke both spread wings rolling his Battroid in the hall like that because he didn’t eject his missile packs. Valkyries are supposed to have quick Stores Eject Function to prevent precisely that conflict. How’s he supposed to fly off that ship with a broken plane?
Such a dope reimagining of the iconic scene from the series. And I wouldn't be surprised if The Batman didn't directly borrow from that hallway scene lit only by muzzle flashes. Can't say I enjoyed the music much in either version, though.
One question that comes to mind... we don't see what Hikaru Ichijo was doing during the duel between Max and Milia. Does this mean he takes out the other Queadluun-Rau pilots who were in formation with Milia single handedly?
