Madara is STUPID.. 

I cannot put into words how much I love the idea of Madara's plan amounting to a repeated application of the phrase: Yeah, this'll probably work.

Black Zetsu: "I'm the manifestation of your will." Madara: " I have no reason to believe you but trust you implicitly. Let's put an eye on the moon."

Madara's real mangekou ability was jackpot control in his right and plot convenience in his left.

Madara was battle smart. But he wasn't Shikamaru smart.

If Madara had the ability to see into the future, than I don't think he would've gone with Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Being just an advisor is against Madara's personality. Look how he reacted to being revived in his own flesh and blood. He wanted all the smoke.

i like to think that instead of like fireballs and meteors during the war, it’s just really old madara beating the shit out of everybody with a cane

Wow, now I relate to Madara even more after watching this. Bro, just accidentally stumbled his way into success even when his original plan made no sense.

"His battle IQ was so high, it didn't leave room for the rest of the IQ" 😂😂😂😂😂

2nd time I watched the war arc, first thing that came to me was that it was obvious that Obito didn't want Madara back, which made me wonder about Madara's ability to plan effectively. Also I wonder why Orochimaru who spent so long searching for a viable body, just doesn't make himself into an Edo Tensei and then escape it. Seems easier than all the Sasuke stress.

For someone with a PhD in prolonging his life, Madara sure challenged Hashirama quite a bit

You saw all this playing out? How? Madara: "Eh, I just treated all it like one big fight. That's how I normally do it."

That closing line was to die for Nick. But seriously let imagine Madara being that old and running a train on the Alliance 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I think Madara wasn't really confident in Obito, but instead, Black Zetsu. Madara really only trusts himself (check his Sharingan and Susano). So, if he considered Black Zetsu to be an extension of himself, I'm not surprised his Uchiha arrogance prompted him to take such risks with his plan. Plus, I'm personally convinced that Black Zetsu messed with Danzo somehow (total head cannon there).

I have only one theory that could explain this: the user of Rinne Tensei can specify the target's resurrection age. One could say it is a combination of resurrection and reversing time or healing. That way people who died during the attack on the Konoha came back to their bodies some time before they got killed. Villagers had no wounds as they mostly got killed instantly, but Kakashi came back weakened, so Rinne Tensei must have reversed time just enough to stabilize everybody. I'd say the more you reverse time for the target the more chakra you use and that amount goes up if there are multiple targets. Following that logic it is possible to reverse more time if there is only one target. That would explain why Madara, after seeing his young body, would assume he was brought back using Rinne Tensei. To be honest I'm more interested how Kabuto was able to bring back young Madara - this one makes the least sense as Edo Tensei is more fleshed out in the series and we know the rules surrounding it, so it seems like Kabuto was the only one to break them and only for Madara, which is funny considering he could've brought back all the Kage in their prime...

Its important to note that, while Madara knows what the Rinne rebirth technique does from reading about it and has the ability to preform it, he has never done it himself or had any way to find out the specifics about how it works. Its entirely possible that Madara believed the jutsu would bring him back in the prime of his life as it is one of the miracles of the Rinnegan but even Madara has admitted to being wrong about how things work in the past. Madara's entire war was based on the precept that he could only ever protect his people by forcing others to go along with his will with violence rather than working peacefully with others and we all saw how wrong that was. For a guy that claimed to only care about the well being of his family and clan Madara made it a lifelong habit of sabotaging any attempts at peace and was personally responsible for reducing the number of Uchia's in the world two.

If Madara had used Rinne Rebirth and revived the Allied Shinobi Forces after Kaguya's defeat, than I would call it Madara's redemption.

The real question is how many bodies does Madara have left in the world now. If I remember correctly Hashirama had a final goodbye with the revived young Madara. I also think when the Sage of Six Paths came back to talk to the Hokages they were discussing reviving Madara using the legs that got cut off him. Are those legs still there as well? All of this is on top of Madara's original body. Seems like Madara now has 2 and a half bodies that need to be taken care of.

No no, you're not crazy. This really was a dumb plan to begin with. Madara was simply really, REALLY, *REALLY* lucky.

Kabuto could have found Madara’s original body and experimented on it to restore it to its prime through medical ninjutsu and use Madara’s original body as the body used to reanimate Madara. Thus giving Madara a body in his prime and allowing the rinne rebirth to bring him back to life using the same body.

I’d pay good money to see Madara pull up on the allied shinobi forces with a cane and oxygen tank😭

"People talk about peace, whilst spilling blood." *- Madara Uchiha*

"His battle IQ is so high that it didn't make space for the rest of the IQ." perfectly sums up Madara's character 🤣

Something to consider is he believed zetsu to be his will incarnate. he probably felt safe leaving everything to chance because he believed that zetsu would be there to get his bidding done. He was ultimately wrong of course so that means his whole plan was flawed as you point out, but zetsu made him believe that wasn't the case.

If you think Madara just left everything up to Obito then you seem to have forgotten Black Zetsu's existence.

Madara’s mangekou ability must’ve been probability control because, there’s no way he accomplished any of this without supernatural levels of luck (or plot convenience) 💀

since the first time they revealed nagato’s backstory I’ve always thought it was weird that Madara is gambling on this kid living long enough for him to get his eyes back. Like that’s a huge I hope this works out kind od thought. You’re the only person ever to address this so thank you!

Imagine if Madara gave his eyes to Kushina instead of Nagato.

Time to watch Nick rag on Madara for 18 minutes. This gonna be a good one lol

If he was stupid, I could excuse him. It's worse than that anyway, at least in my opinion. Madara was so self idolized that he didn't WANT to realize, all the variables that could derail his plan. Also, he was so arrogant that he didn't recognize his own luck and limitations. This did lead him to learn NOTHING, not to improve himself because he was full of his own ego, which ultimatelly, did lead him to his defeat. Not by stupidity but by selfishness and arrogance. One of the most overrated villains of all time, suffered one of the most humiliating defeats because, like many, he believed to be the advocate of absolute truth and to be in complete control. So no, he wasn't stupid, not in my eyes. He was selfish and arrogant. That's much worse and it's why he deserved his fate.

My headcannon for his age is that becoming a ten tails jinchuuriki like he expected to would make it irrelevant (still wouldn’t account for plenty of things that could go wrong though).

I would've been fine if Madara mind controlled everyone, rather than put them in trees.

When you realize a few Uchihas brought the Shinobi world together.

Madara is the type of person that knows how to fight well and that's it. Everything else is emotion based and whatever feels good in the moment. He thinks that his plan of the Eye of the Moon was his because of Black Zetsu, because that individual knew how to lie well. He thought he had more to go on because he was like "Black Zetsu is my will, White Zetsu is my will, Obito will come down to my POV eventually, why bother?". All according to cake.

There’s a reason Hashirama became the First Hokage and Madara didn’t

Madara's "stay my ass here" jutsu was the start of his stupidity

I've always assumed that the effectiveness of Rinne Rebirth was based on the number of people you attempted to use it on. More specifically, think of it like Shadow Clones, the more clones the more the chakra is divided. The same with Rinne Rebirth, if it was used solely for Madara, it would maybe create a body for him, rather than trying to pull him into an existing body. This in my head, would give a reason as to why there was a discrepancy as to who Nagato could revive, such as reviving the people of Konoha and not Jiraiya. By using all of his Chakra to revive the people of konoha to the minimum required to be alive, with their old bodies, he was unable to revive anyone else. Think of it another way. It's like how Water Jutsu is cheaper when near a body of water. If you use Rinne Rebirth on someone, and their body is relatively intact, it would be cheaper to use, as such it was possible for him to revive the people of Konoha. However, just like trying to use Water Jutsu in the desert, it becomes significantly more expensive to cast when a body no longer exists, or when you're trying to incarnate someone into their prime, like Madara wanted.

Madara is as dumb as he is smart. Madara is just one giant cycle of irony and contradiction Hates people standing behind him, gets killed twice like this. Uses people but also hes the biggest puppet of them all. He wants to save people but hes also kind of blood thirsty and a savage with no remorse in battle.

Do you think Sarada’s mangekyo sharingan is going to act and be inherently different due to the fact that she’s the first to awaken it without the influence of black zetsu and the killing of someone close to her? Like do you think her awakening of it will change some it’s properties due to her awakening it through love instead of hate?

funny thing is most of the characters in naruto aren't as smart as people thought they were and most of them are uchiha. Shisui, Itachi, and Madara

If you look at it you’ll realize that madara’s plan was actually black zetsu’s plan in trying to create a best case scenario for the resurrection of kaguya! That was the grand scheme of everything, in the end it was all kaguya’s will being carried out with madara’s plan coincidentally following the same path because kaguya needed a body who’d better be a host than a madara fused with hashirama cells making him a potential otsutsuki perfect for resurrection. That’s if you follow the karma seal regeneration but then again he didn’t have a karma mark but who am I Kishimoto is crazy 😅

I think why madara thought that he was brought back on his prime is that I believe rinne rebirth has two functions. The first you mentioned and another that if a person has recently died and rinne rebirth was done they would go back to their original body no prime change, but if the body had decayed and wasnt there anymore the soul will go to that body and as we know rinne rebirth heals the body so it would have rebuilt his body and maybe they had the option to bring them in their prime or old form. Same with the guy madara inhabited.

It makes sense. When you have such overwhelming power like Madara did, you don't usually have to think as hard to be more successful. Just win every fight with braun instead of brain

Madara: Me fight good, but every time me learn new thing, it pushes fight goodness out of my brain.

Everyone forgets black zetsu pulled an Aizen and manipulated madara making him believe he was his will. Therefore madara would be confident things would play out in his favor

Not only does this prove madara is doodoo, it proves Kabuto is the smartest villain ever

Imagine Madara coming back old but able to run around and fight like Uncle from Jackie Chan adventures.

I think the Black Zetsu recon could work to explain this: 1. Black Zetsu whispered this to Madara. 2. Black Zetsu was going to control the Rinnegan user to bring back old man Madara to be the Ten-Tail Jinchuriki to transform into Kaguya. 3. Black Zetsu adapted to Obito and gave Kabuto Madara's dead body to modify, restore and use for Edo Tensei.

I would like to lean into believing that once Edo tensei was used on Marada with the dead corpse that his soul took over the body it was used on. Pigging back what you said, it just wiped out the original soul of that body. When itachi and the four hokage went back to the pure land we see their souls leaving the hosts corpse. Then we renni rebirth was used his soul already in the Edo tensei body it became his. Good video!

What if the only reason Madara was able to release himself from Edo Tensei was because his Mangekyou Sharingan let him deconstruct the jutsu and formulate a counter to it, something even Tobirama didn't know?

"I think his battle IQ was so high it didn't make space for the rest of the IQ" 😂😂😂 Madara's MS ability is good luck.

That’s the best part! You see he planned to be brought back as an old man that way he would have a challenge when he fights the army. Plus who would he sacrifice to create a body for his Edo tensi? Obito was too young and had a bright future ahead of him. And Madara was such a soft and kind old man at that point he couldn’t do such a thing. Then you have to consider what if Nagato was just born with the Rennegan and Madara was making stuff up. You know how old people like to talk about their war atrocities.

Random theory about Kabito Bringing Madara back in his prime. What if, the reason why it worked surprisingly well, was because during the time Oruchimaru was with the Akatske he was filled in with the eye of the moon plan. Oruchimaru not really caring about anything else, exept for the understanding of all jutsu, joined up for his own purposes. So he can learn all the jutsu he was interested in, and have a concrete place to hid away for awhile. Especially since he still had heat from the leaf village from a few years ago still on his trail. With his cunningness and manipulation, he got some Intel from his personal agents about a hidden area surrounded by mystery in the mist village. I'm not sure when the next part would happen, but sometime before he formed the sound village he would explore the area by himself or with Kabuto. There, they gain insite and also discover the remains of Madara. Oruchimaru, being the ever interesting jutsu Scientist, began studying it, however, to his disappointment, Madaras eyes were either completely destroyed, beond repair, or completely blind. Deeming it as a lost project/experiment, he placed it aside and focused on his more pressing and enjoyable experiments. Many years later, some time after Oruchimaru's death and after he gave the details of the akataki to Naruto, Kabito was looking around Oruchimaru's many bases for more detailed information for moving jutsu from one person to another. When in the middle of all this, he stumbled upon the Discarded study of Madara from Oruchimaru. Now I know the body would be old as heck, but Kabuto, being the medical genius he is, and also in the process of making himself a better him. ( not sure but were sticking with it ) he desided to look into the reanimation Jutsu. This is when he would study and learn the downfalls of the Jutsu, and trying what he can to improve it. After a while, and hearing the rumors about the 4th Great Ninja war, he approached Obito with not only the dead akatski, but his first and most precious prototype of his reanimation. This being Madara, but with his body reversed engineered to regain its youth and completion. It wouldn't be the only time a jutsu like this was shown in the anime, and this would both fit in with Oruchimaru's style before the atuska blade incident, along with show Kabuto's full skills, In medical jutsu, on desplay. Although, this is just me over thinking this theory, while fitting in some details I picked up both on the Anime, and in your videos too. Hope ya enjoyed reading through this, and continue making fun videos😁👍

Madara was actually part of a D&D group. They always stumble into the best situations with stupid plans.

Madara's whole life is encaged behind a convenience plot. Like when Izuna died neither of them used Mangekyou on that fight but they already had it

Madara: My plan is the best plan, if you ignore all the ways it can fail, and know that Zetsu is manipulating things to ensure the revival of some rabbit lady. On a side note could the body used in the Edo Tensai have been a clone of Madara, his real body, or a white Zetsu.

Tbh, madara was just fulfilling every introverts dreams with the infinite tsukuyomi Also why didn’t he just rewind time with his mangekyou sharing an ability after he was stabbed by zetsu

Ha! I always knew madara wasn’t book smart from the start. Like yeah trusting a kid to carry your life work is dumb but boy I never thought about how dumb it was

Naruto failing the exam is not a plot hole. He just took multiple times within a year

@17:09 I think his battle iq was so high, there was no more space for the rest of the iq 😅😂😂😂

Wake up to reality nothing goes as planned in this accursed world the longer you live the more you realise only things that exist in this world is pain suffering and fultility.- Madara Uchiha

He was going to become the ten tails host. Even in his old body, from what we've seen about hosting ten tails, he's damn near immortal and basically all powerful.

Spinoff where the sacrificed body's soul gets rezzed into madaras old body

Unless Kabuto managed to steal Madaras original body. There is your "sacrificial" body and the ability to tinker with it to such a great extent.

1. You can't assume that just because he knows how to cancel the jutsu's control he would know how to use it. 2. The plan is a longshot because it's a longshot. Madara didn't exactly have better options available. He threw a hailmary and was surprised when it worked out.

Look, I love Madara. He is in my top 5 favorite Naruto characters, just because of his presence, his philosophy and despite how many are against him, he still climbs his way to reach his dream. Here's the thing, I feel like his plans had SO many plot holes and SO many flaws. Give Nagato a rinnegan to revive him eventually. There was no guarantee it would happen. He released himself from Kabuto's control. Okay, but how? I get it if he found out about the secrets of the jutsu Tobirama created, but it is still so far fetched that Madara could just do that, without any explanation on how he found out how to... And the amount of times Madara is supposed to die. When he gets fully revived, Sasuke used Amaterasu. And I'm sorry but Amaterasu is supposed to burn as hot as the sun itself. Even if Madara took his armor off, I feel like it would still have some form of effect. Some burnt skin or anything of the sort. Being impaled by so many sand bullets and then sealed away. But no, give him a Susanoo without his eyes! Then he had his body destroyed. TWICE! Once by Might Guy and then by Sasuke slicing him in half. He is an amazing character, but even the most hardcore Madara fans might agree with me when I say that he is just covered in Plot Armor even more than Naruto is!

Black Zetsu being there fixes basically all the points you´ve made.

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Long time enjoyer of this channel and I gotta say, love this video😂"out of pocket" oml

Didnt everyone know this? Once they started saying everything was planned by madara in the end it all fell apart since it was the stupidest plan ever...

The best part of this video of Nick finally saying ‘tensei’ correctly 😂. Love the vids bro

Tobirama didn’t release himself because it gave him refilling chakra and he wanted to go back to the pure lands after completing his mission

If Madara were smart he'd have joined Hashirama in the Village they dreamed of as kids, and not spent his life sabotaging the "peace" he claimed to want.

He didn't know what to do with him after he had him solo an army and beat the shit out of all the kage. 😂

Is it not possible that kabuto found Madara’s original body, with his advanced medical ninjutsu skill brought him back to his prime? Then Rebirth brings his soul to his body

maybe because obitos rinne rebirth was solely focused on madara and not the entire village of konoha it improved the potency of the revive

So what your saying is, Tobirams student Danzo was the one who put Nagato on track. And its because of his edo tensei madara was revived.

Pre orochi edo brings out a very weak version of yourself and in that state he would just be a target and a weakness (something like a boruto villain) so he wanted to be brought back in full power hence his dismay when finding that he was not brought back in full power in the war but he tests the body and finds it great. He wanted a rebirth rather than being a ghost

Ten Tail’s Jinchuuriki must be a living vessel not a reanimation. Edo Tensei added an extra step.

Okay IMO I think this is what happened i think Kishimoto original plan was going to have Obito as the final villain but as he continued writing he fell in love with Madara(you know like he typically does when he writes an Uchiha)

My guess why Tobirama didn't release himself from Edo Tensei would be that the first time he couldn't get enough control over his body to do so and the second time around he had no need because he was already free plus he probably understood that he needed to return to the Purelands eventually and therefore he needed someone to release him from Edo Tensei since when you release yourself, you're stuck on earth in an immortal body without a way back. At least as far as I understand it.

“Madara is a bitter old loser now” Itachi Uchiha’s words to Sasuke

Madara stands: "He held back to have fun." Me: "okay." *inhales your copium*

0:34 thats so true im starting to learn a bit more about rezero and i noticed the cracks in that story too.

Man said “not only are we gonna go deeper we’re gonna go wider”🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨FUCKING PAUSE😂😂💀💀💀

Bro took a piece of someone else's flesh and inserted it into his body to merge chakra. I thought that's how infections were born.

That Madara gave away one of the most important Keys to his plan Rinnegan to a Nagato could have been quite costly. Considering that on two occasions Nagato could have lost his Rinnegan or at least see them destroyed if things had happened differently. 1 when Nagato meet Orchimaro as a child. 2.When Naruto was on his way to Nagato.. Aka Naruto could have gone rage mode and just destroyed Nagato.

Dont forget. Madara’s edo tensei was “specially prepared”

Battle iq taking up AL the iq made me laugh at work, thank you!

Madaras biggest weakness is trusting others and getting betrayed (more specifically stabbed in the back).

He still could have succeeded if he just let Obito do what he wanted. Madara didn't need to come back to life because Obito had the exact same goal.

Naruto didn't fail the exam "3 years in a row" he "failed the exam 3 times" this could mean he failed 3 times the same year

He couldn’t be reanimated in his prime , remember that was a special thing made by kabuto

I guess Madara didn't want to risk getting sealed in a weakned body.

Madara never really displayed super intelligence.. just super dedication to a very specific plan. That’s not a super intelligence feat

I have the answer. Hashi Rama sales. Hashi Rama sales strengthened a dead body as they never die. Therefore, if Mira took the gamble that Hashi Rama sales which strengthen his body overtime and that would be the explanation.

Obito said “I didn’t trust you would go by your word, I’ve decided to do infinite tsukiyomi my way”

Madara's plan is dumb as hell, only carried by his Black Air Force energy. Madara is such a stupid genius, badass.

I cannot unsee Black Zetsu gas lighting Madara like Eren did Grisha.

I'm curious. What was Madara doing in between reviving himself with Izanagi and awakening the Rinnegan?