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Madden 25 - 5 Things That Won't Work Anymore 

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In this Madden 25 video, I'll be going over 5 big things that won't work anymore in Madden 25 gameplay!
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@EricRayweather
@EricRayweather Месяц назад
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@keyroncampbell-sr3cz
@keyroncampbell-sr3cz Месяц назад
Madden should be released every 2 years... They running out of reasons to justify the new purchase every year
@taym510Oak
@taym510Oak Месяц назад
Yea it should be but I think they did right with this one at least as good as they could but we will see
@hennocent
@hennocent Месяц назад
They been out of reasons for almost 10 years
@jamesblackmon3814
@jamesblackmon3814 Месяц назад
Or you could just wait to purchase it every 2 years 🤷🏽‍♂️
@kennythelastgamer5596
@kennythelastgamer5596 Месяц назад
@@hennocentfacts.
@warriorKing2233
@warriorKing2233 Месяц назад
I agree but the NFL would never allow it. Not just for the money but because it is another tool used to hype up each new season. They are just as much to blame as EA
@timdefrank3641
@timdefrank3641 Месяц назад
The AI needs to recognize when a play is being abused is the biggest thing
@smoovfizzle8054
@smoovfizzle8054 Месяц назад
Facts! 💯
@whatwouldnoviedo4571
@whatwouldnoviedo4571 Месяц назад
Taking away zig routes when all everybody do is spam cheese blitz makes perfect sense 😂😂
@yokoblitt2157
@yokoblitt2157 Месяц назад
Right be prepared for cheese blitz and shaded down man to man all year if you don’t have a HRM
@jimmyjones2901
@jimmyjones2901 Месяц назад
Best zig router in the game right here💪 do the zaggy zags the best too😝
@iInspireSuccess
@iInspireSuccess Месяц назад
Need my zig
@SaxABoomEnjoyer
@SaxABoomEnjoyer Месяц назад
Hopefully they can fix the bigger issues like broken tackles, receivers not adjusting to inaccurate passes, and progressive fatigue in franchise mode. Also getting rid of the zig routes is a very questionable decision
@dctrbrass
@dctrbrass Месяц назад
They really should've put that wear and tear system from cfb 25 in madden.
@yokoblitt2157
@yokoblitt2157 Месяц назад
Yea getting rid of the Zig as a base hot route was dumb that was one of the only routes that would consistently beat pressed man
@SaxABoomEnjoyer
@SaxABoomEnjoyer Месяц назад
@@dctrbrass I'm a franchise player and love the simulation style, so I definitely agree with this.
@MattBnl2ih
@MattBnl2ih Месяц назад
Wish it could be a situation where you can like pick a set 8 routes you can hot route, and you only get the full 12 with the ability
@SCBaseball18
@SCBaseball18 Месяц назад
⁠@@MattBnl2ihno one would use that ability lol. Everyone would have the same glitchy 8 routes
@herbsmith1566
@herbsmith1566 Месяц назад
Taking away zig is insanely diabolical
@Dylan-co3jl
@Dylan-co3jl Месяц назад
I feel like now that we have cfb25 they should focus on making madden a more realistic sim game and have college game be the arcade, juke, crazy abilities game.
@DaNewWaveLee
@DaNewWaveLee Месяц назад
They should just allow us to choose our routes in setting. I’d prefer keeping zig over having in and slant routes.
@warriorKing2233
@warriorKing2233 Месяц назад
If they are going by realism it should be scheme/QB specific on which hot routes are available. A deep threat qb with a vertical scheme should have more deep routes than short routes at their disposal.
@Bino1701G
@Bino1701G Месяц назад
​@@warriorKing2233I agree.
@jimmyjones2901
@jimmyjones2901 Месяц назад
They should also figure out how to allow oc and dc adjustments in menu so you don’t have to do it once you enter the game. Can’t believe they haven’t done this yet.
@DaNewWaveLee
@DaNewWaveLee Месяц назад
@kuromi_3vil I agree with you too. I want full control. They must be worried about simulation stats or something. Either way it doesn’t matter too much if they leave zig in the original play. You’ll just need to have those routes as audibles and flip the play.
@Abv39
@Abv39 Месяц назад
Don’t worry there will be new tactics 😂😂😂
@marcusjones9084
@marcusjones9084 Месяц назад
There will always be new tactics. The goal is to mitigate the cheesy stuff in the game.
@Hombre_Astuto
@Hombre_Astuto Месяц назад
@@marcusjones9084you can’t mitigate it. Closing one door always opens another.
@jaypatt5161
@jaypatt5161 Месяц назад
How you claiming the game is realistic but there aint no cheer leaders. Who makes a football game without cheerleaders
@freekayflockkk
@freekayflockkk Месяц назад
So basically ur not getting Madden 25 bc there's no cheerleaders..
@GunDancin
@GunDancin Месяц назад
@@freekayflockkkthat’s a girl, can you blame her?
@nflzoo2046
@nflzoo2046 Месяц назад
@@GunDancintbf CFB25 has cheerleaders mascots all the above so I get what they saying
@beastkingz9676
@beastkingz9676 Месяц назад
It’s it cheerleader simulator or football 😂
@b-gamer340
@b-gamer340 Месяц назад
Who cares about cheerleaders
@kevionwhite8806
@kevionwhite8806 Месяц назад
Can they attack pursuit angles bc it been years but no correction
@proudgorilla2808
@proudgorilla2808 Месяц назад
I think im going to continue in cut and save my money and just catch it when it's released on gamepass this year. Not gonna really have the time to keep up with both games lol
@allahjustice8893
@allahjustice8893 Месяц назад
Madden drops next week damn CFB and Madden got here pretty quick when you think about it.
@JuiceWRLD999-ib8eq
@JuiceWRLD999-ib8eq Месяц назад
Overpowered abilites made me nearly cry, passes always getting knocked down 😭
@brentenglish268
@brentenglish268 Месяц назад
Eric Rayweather is the only content creator that I’ve seen who spreads his promos randomly thru his videos two or three different places instead of one big promotion. Keeps people from being able to skip over it.. well played sir, well played
@meatduck-ki3do
@meatduck-ki3do Месяц назад
They better fix man coverage
@ag3ntc0cac0la6
@ag3ntc0cac0la6 Месяц назад
its either too op or doesent guard anything
@JackSparrow-er8cf
@JackSparrow-er8cf Месяц назад
Maddens real what nfl defence just runs man every play if you use it situational then these things work you mad you can’t just run the same thing over and over that’s not football
@KinGxSTuDx
@KinGxSTuDx Месяц назад
It's going to be OP this year. No zig routes are gonna be big but maybe post & corner routes will be as good as ever.
@meatduck-ki3do
@meatduck-ki3do Месяц назад
@@JackSparrow-er8cf no it’s not. Your an idiot if you think Madden has realistic man coverage
@trevoranderson9624
@trevoranderson9624 Месяц назад
You’re a bot🤖
@koodigocrxzy465
@koodigocrxzy465 Месяц назад
Taking out zigs from hot routes is a terrible decision
@Sauuceyra
@Sauuceyra Месяц назад
Nah people spam that Use a different routes
@koodigocrxzy465
@koodigocrxzy465 Месяц назад
@@Sauuceyra people using zig routes doesn’t change the fact it’s just a route. There are no magical routes in football that are stronger than others
@FortFinesse007
@FortFinesse007 Месяц назад
@@koodigocrxzy465 this isn’t real football, though in the game code it’s a to op, only way to stop it is shade underneath well that just leaves streaks open for an easy touchdown
@jaybyrd1374
@jaybyrd1374 Месяц назад
Or stop them they not hard to stop😅
@jaybyrd1374
@jaybyrd1374 Месяц назад
You can user defend it
@Stello203
@Stello203 Месяц назад
I wish they added the hit stick data to CFB25
@SonicHub-zu7dl
@SonicHub-zu7dl Месяц назад
Man me to 😢
@stephenschuster9929
@stephenschuster9929 Месяц назад
Yeah there's almost no point in trying to hit stick in CFB25. I've played over 50 games and I've only seen like 5 fumbles. But then I've heard of people who have 5 in one game so idk 😂
@Stello203
@Stello203 Месяц назад
@@stephenschuster9929 I strictly tackle with A or X depending which console you have. I only miss tackles when I try to dive tackle.
@julius.shambles7
@julius.shambles7 Месяц назад
@@stephenschuster9929strafe then hit-stick at the right angle, preferably head-on with the ballcarrier. Or catch the ballcarrier, coming off a broken tackle then use the same technique you’ll be golden . Works majority of the time for me.
@XklusiveTelevison
@XklusiveTelevison Месяц назад
Fumbles come from strips in cb not hit stick silly 😂​@@stephenschuster9929
@1notyrone
@1notyrone Месяц назад
On madden 25 superstar mode your height and weight well play affect with your attributes.
@SonicHub-zu7dl
@SonicHub-zu7dl Месяц назад
Good
@Austin-b4w
@Austin-b4w Месяц назад
Tbh, madden feels closer than what it seems
@Burger_demolisher
@Burger_demolisher Месяц назад
i’m only getting this game to import my player
@kancerking2234
@kancerking2234 Месяц назад
Me too 😂
@LaSplasher
@LaSplasher Месяц назад
Deadass
@Sauuceyra
@Sauuceyra Месяц назад
Madden > Cfb You break too many tackles in that game and you barely lose stam from Jukes and spins. Judkins is a prime example
@LaSplasher
@LaSplasher Месяц назад
@@Sauuceyra nah that’s facts, they should tone down the spin success-ability and raise tackles slightly but it is college ball and they can’t tackle for shit already lmao
@Eaglesfan11281
@Eaglesfan11281 Месяц назад
@@SauuceyraI agree
@Gary0418
@Gary0418 Месяц назад
They will bring them back next few games calling them new its what they do
@TariqThornton
@TariqThornton Месяц назад
I can’t wait for the game
@jegetasaiyan7326
@jegetasaiyan7326 Месяц назад
I always turn off the X factor abilities when I play franchise. Makes guys unstoppable smh
@christiangraves9597
@christiangraves9597 Месяц назад
Gmia gonna have a heart attack when he plays mut 25😂
@iggygotem
@iggygotem Месяц назад
7:40 will say the switch stick in college definitely needs fixing cause like i notice in CFB25 u can only switch stick when the ball is in the air so like ill be trying to set up my defense and then the ball get snapped and and while its stil in the air on the snap sumtimes it switches me up to a safety without me even wanting to , then other times ill see something coming open and it wont let switch stick til the qb throws the ball and at that point its like i cant even catch up with the db
@tomc5435
@tomc5435 Месяц назад
The switch stick is terrible. I still can't fully nail down how it works. It's so random when it will and won't switch.
@gsNice31
@gsNice31 Месяц назад
Being able to hot route to post and flag routes is much better than having a zig route. Especially being able to put any WR on those routes without them having to have some type of Route Apprentices ability. We don’t need zigs that badly when the out route is always an option AND you can post or flag at any time
@Unsealed_Prods
@Unsealed_Prods Месяц назад
How can we look at madden 25 playbooks/ formations early before release?
@Crashsui
@Crashsui Месяц назад
Which is why I fw the beta so hard , the abilities didn’t feel busted they all felt balanced ash , especially how velocity works again , I used Matt staff he has 0 abilities but the ball came out good and smooth and got there, didn’t float.
@yokoblitt2157
@yokoblitt2157 Месяц назад
Everything is always mostly smooth at launch for the most part don’t start bugging until the comp players start complaining then after the first patch it becomes non existent especially pass rush
@KinGxSTuDx
@KinGxSTuDx Месяц назад
EA never sent me my beta code so I'm hoping you're right. Looks like it could be a good year before late Madden happens & all the cheese comes out.
@Crashsui
@Crashsui Месяц назад
@kuromi_3vil they have it but it’s not that much of a difference this year , it’s really dependent on the QB throw power , but it still does help , just Staff still throws the ball good without it , remember previous years it would just float easier for it to be picked
@UG_Madden
@UG_Madden Месяц назад
They need to use AI to correct the pursuit angles
@michealcavanaugh7878
@michealcavanaugh7878 Месяц назад
That corner route hotroute was pretty good top
@yokoblitt2157
@yokoblitt2157 Месяц назад
Yea it was an underrated hot route fasho but them taking the zigs out of the basic package is criminal
@jgok5580
@jgok5580 Месяц назад
Those one handed catches look STOOOPID, Lmao curtis samuel WISHES he could do that 😂 fr fr NOBODY catches like that
@Buckeye7Gaming
@Buckeye7Gaming Месяц назад
Taking zig route out of the hot route menu is dumb.
@SocialRejectJr
@SocialRejectJr Месяц назад
Says who? You? Just because you suck at the game doesn’t mean the game should cater to you
@user-zi8nx2hm8y
@user-zi8nx2hm8y 22 дня назад
@@SocialRejectJrwhy? why can’t people who don’t know football and don’t understand football be able to play? i don’t want to have to learn what the plays mean to enjoy it
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Месяц назад
Stupid make the hot routes the same as CF25. Opens up more schemes.
@dredawg679
@dredawg679 Месяц назад
EA is soooooo lucky 2K can't make football games it would've BEEN over for Madden just like NBA Live bit the dust. I really wish EA would have enough courage to just one year. Give us a update on the rosters. Maybe some easy downloadable features and take a year off from Madden so they can truly build it from the ground up. We've been playing the core game for the past 10 years it's ridiculous
@anthonyhernandez2111
@anthonyhernandez2111 Месяц назад
yeah but is what it is man. we still gone buy and play madden 25 since its the only NFL game out there. lets just enjoy it best we can
@chillyys
@chillyys Месяц назад
the hitstick spamming is me every game even when im not trying to hitstick😂
@JSAVAGEZ06
@JSAVAGEZ06 Месяц назад
A couple weeks or next Tuesday if you pre order or Friday if you front lol, that’s just next week boss
@JCNY718
@JCNY718 Месяц назад
This is the best looking madden in a decade… I might actually purchase this year.
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr 29 дней назад
Yeah it’s good I’ve played it
@Ilovefootball1109-v4t
@Ilovefootball1109-v4t Месяц назад
Will there be X-Factor pictures for while you’re waiting?
@dccon229
@dccon229 Месяц назад
I’m so glad they took that Juke out or down. I played 3 games against friends and that’s all they did. I never played it again. Thanks EA
@zachc3246
@zachc3246 Месяц назад
Hit sticks has not been good for 2 years now. All of us who has played on madden know the runner will break that tackle every time. So you just have to go for a safe tackle which is annoying
@YoYo-hz7xi
@YoYo-hz7xi Месяц назад
College football 25 is very good and madden nfl 25 too sure
@M_JW
@M_JW Месяц назад
I can’t onside every kick anymore😭
@nikolaig1
@nikolaig1 Месяц назад
Madden 25 is gonna be so different than previous. It's insane.
@BenjimenNelson150
@BenjimenNelson150 Месяц назад
Seems like it’s the same stuff that’s on CFB 25, ngl that switch stick gone hurt a lot of spammers
@CRAINxX
@CRAINxX Месяц назад
For online H2H will it be setup like college with different tiers and a road to a Superbowl?
@JSAVAGEZ06
@JSAVAGEZ06 Месяц назад
They trying to take away injuries in the game as well 🤣 nah I’m Bsing but these changes are going to help my style of play
@BD_FlyGuy_23
@BD_FlyGuy_23 Месяц назад
Eric you are the best when it comes to the Football games 💯%
@yaramanthorne1649
@yaramanthorne1649 26 дней назад
Can you make a video explaining how to shed blocks
@spikedeagle6795
@spikedeagle6795 Месяц назад
If it’s still animation heavy, pass
@williebsunshine
@williebsunshine Месяц назад
If theyre gonna address hitstick spam then they really should address strip spam
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr 29 дней назад
Wdym strip spam?
@williebsunshine
@williebsunshine 29 дней назад
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr constantly going for strip ball animations. There's almost no downside
@timdefrank3641
@timdefrank3641 Месяц назад
The over powered Jukes are now in college lol they need to patch those in college
@glokkstarboogie
@glokkstarboogie 16 дней назад
The uniforms doesn’t even let you use the ones you pick 😕
@stumpy219
@stumpy219 Месяц назад
Dangit, that juke was a cheat code man 🤣
@drew4317
@drew4317 Месяц назад
4:33 college players are able to make more hot routes than pros, makes sense...
@BeastmodeA7X
@BeastmodeA7X Месяц назад
first madden i'm not playing since 15 since college football is back no need for me to get madden
@marcusjones9084
@marcusjones9084 Месяц назад
You should reconsider. I played the beta, and this feels better from a gameplay standpoint than CFB25.
@rattlers87
@rattlers87 Месяц назад
I believed you can import 32 custom teams so if you ever wanted to do a fantasy draft with a different league type then maybe I can see a reason if you’re tired of maddden
@Thespicyranch45
@Thespicyranch45 Месяц назад
Then need to take cfb25 and just put nfl teams and players and make it harder to break tackles then madden would be good
@UrLigmaSigma
@UrLigmaSigma Месяц назад
Does anyone know how passings gonna work? Cuz in madden 24 u couldn’t even pass short or deep in coverage and expect ur wr to even attempt to jump for the contested ball, the db would just jump and miss the wr. This was my biggest issue in madden 24, especially when WRs like Justin Jefferson and other elite WRs were getting mossed and picked off by average cbs, anyone else have this problem? 👍
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr 29 дней назад
That’s different I’ve played it
@UrLigmaSigma
@UrLigmaSigma 29 дней назад
@@vinnievinnie-sj5kr so it is gonna be different?
@teslaman0650
@teslaman0650 Месяц назад
looking at that superstar X Factor screen what makes no sense to me is why jaylon Johnson and montez sweat are not a superstars
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr
@vinnievinnie-sj5kr 29 дней назад
What?
@Hombre_Astuto
@Hombre_Astuto Месяц назад
Thought zig route was standard now. It is in cb25
@mrheishim
@mrheishim Месяц назад
We'll see when the game comes out and we play it..
@higherorlowergame
@higherorlowergame Месяц назад
Hey Eric, we challenge you to play our Madden NFL 25 higher or lower game. Simply guess which player has a higher ratings in the new game. :D
@LandenHisle
@LandenHisle Месяц назад
i need help. on cfb 25 i for some reason cant use the right stick switch on defense and i dont know if i have to turn it on or what so
@nikolaig1
@nikolaig1 Месяц назад
Madden 24 is the best madden to date theu changed so much anf its way more realistic. 25 is gonna be crazy
@Mar12185
@Mar12185 Месяц назад
Did they did anything to rpo routes ?
@alexg5150
@alexg5150 Месяц назад
Yeah abusing hit sticks is the worse and unrealistic. The players need to wrap up more than just hitting them all the time.
@KrisGarland
@KrisGarland Месяц назад
Madden 25 isn’t in my games/apps on Xbox even tho I preorders the mvp edition of ncaa with Madden back in June. Will it show soon?
@Kroc2playz
@Kroc2playz Месяц назад
It hasn’t shown cause the early access hasn’t started but it will soon
@KrisGarland
@KrisGarland Месяц назад
@@Kroc2playz ok thank u. Thought early access was aug 13th? NCAA 25 showed up before Early access tho
@mrsendmetheaddygli-bow9622
@mrsendmetheaddygli-bow9622 Месяц назад
I don’t think it’s gonna be as defensive as a game as people think it’s gonna be lol I think it’ll be high scoring games like college but I’ll just wait and see
@dahuncho3012
@dahuncho3012 Месяц назад
The hit stick never work for me I just always go low
@dctrbrass
@dctrbrass Месяц назад
Would be weird and cool if this channel posted a review of Black Myth Wukong out of nowhere 😂😅
@drgrc400it2
@drgrc400it2 26 дней назад
It’s time to bring blitz back
@Chris61136
@Chris61136 26 дней назад
And NFL2K
@jayreed-h5n
@jayreed-h5n Месяц назад
madden getting better they just need to work on some things
@AsherBenton-b8c
@AsherBenton-b8c Месяц назад
So one question Will Marvin Harrison Jr. be in the game
@mitchellmcglamry2074
@mitchellmcglamry2074 Месяц назад
So a college qb who wont be signed in the NFL has more hot routes than a pro Qb makes sense
@UNITED_STATES._______________8
@UNITED_STATES._______________8 Месяц назад
What’s the point of o line abilities then
@FormerlyAVM
@FormerlyAVM Месяц назад
People are still going to be running the same plays regardless. Drags or crosses will always work still. It’s the people that do this stuff constantly that are more of the problem than this terrible game.
@JackSparrow-er8cf
@JackSparrow-er8cf Месяц назад
Spoiler alert the spin is OP
@Alterson_
@Alterson_ Месяц назад
Zig route nurf is an L
@marcusjones9084
@marcusjones9084 Месяц назад
It's better this way. Too many people were reliant on it.
@jaybyrd1374
@jaybyrd1374 Месяц назад
Big L the community always complain about something stupid I swear
@Buckeye7Gaming
@Buckeye7Gaming Месяц назад
@@marcusjones9084just because people can’t stop it or struggled to stop it doesn’t mean they should’ve removed it from hot routes. It’s a dumb move that alone will keep people away from this game. Madden 25 is going backwards
@yokoblitt2157
@yokoblitt2157 Месяц назад
@@marcusjones9084 It didn’t make a difference I rather the zig then the spam of the corner routes that we about to see
@marcusjones9084
@marcusjones9084 Месяц назад
@Buckeye7Gaming People couldn't stop it because their wasn't much you could do. It beat everything, whether it was Man, Zone, or Biltz. It was a crutch for a lot of players, and I'm not sad to see it go.
@finnz7786
@finnz7786 Месяц назад
1:00 cus switch stick
@WrestlingKing486
@WrestlingKing486 Месяц назад
Can we play as multiple users in franchise mode?
@ChrisMovieUniverse
@ChrisMovieUniverse Месяц назад
That blitz spam shit was SO IRRITATING
@henryhoward777
@henryhoward777 Месяц назад
Do you know if movement is the same as cfb?
@kyewashington-m1d
@kyewashington-m1d Месяц назад
1st get rid of RU-vid because people be finding hella glitchy plays 2 take adjustments out of the game so you can’t mess with any plays you gotta actually learn the playbook and the plays in it to actually play real football 3 don’t allow people to run the same plays over and over again there ya go a perfect game no more RU-vid players and their glitchy plays and adjustments perfect game before RU-vid and social media everything was so much better you actually had to learn stuff from others and learn tricks you know to win games instead of putting it all on RU-vid or in a ebook 👍
@Nellz2309
@Nellz2309 21 день назад
Wtf happened to the Zig route??
@q-dawwg626
@q-dawwg626 Месяц назад
Madden is more fun without using Superstar abilities and Homefield advantage. Much better game play
@keyroncampbell-sr3cz
@keyroncampbell-sr3cz Месяц назад
I'll stick to college football 25... Madden burnout
@officialyoungnola504
@officialyoungnola504 Месяц назад
How the defense in madden this year ?
@seannicholson1224
@seannicholson1224 Месяц назад
I have a question I brought the map bundle and I can't download madden 25 yet am I the only one
@timdefrank3641
@timdefrank3641 Месяц назад
But there’s always a new Meta lol so it’s just a never ending cycle
@TrippysWRLDtv
@TrippysWRLDtv Месяц назад
When we gonna get some gameplay from you?
@ImMrHay
@ImMrHay Месяц назад
cbf25 will surpass madden in the coming years!
@gsmackz
@gsmackz Месяц назад
My guy eric🙏🏽💯🔥🔥
@jaypatt5161
@jaypatt5161 Месяц назад
Do the players run faster than 24?
@rome680u1
@rome680u1 Месяц назад
Hope the R1 speed spam glitch is out the game.
@ac-3940
@ac-3940 Месяц назад
I'm never playing Madden ever again
@trequonwilliams2121
@trequonwilliams2121 Месяц назад
Is the playbook out
@HardwiredMike
@HardwiredMike Месяц назад
Head to head balance ruins a single player experience.
@leoatrulionking7772
@leoatrulionking7772 Месяц назад
I've only missed 1 madden since 07
@SocialRejectJr
@SocialRejectJr Месяц назад
What’s your point?
@heavyweighta
@heavyweighta Месяц назад
Online players gonna be mad lol
@Fhuuuutt
@Fhuuuutt Месяц назад
Why y’all not talking bout showdown
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