Hello, RU-vidrs. The World Science Festival is looking for enthusiastic translation ambassadors for its RU-vid translation project. To get started, all you need is a Google account. Check out Madness Redefined: Creativity, Intelligence and the Dark Side of the Mind to see how the process works: ru-vid.com_video?v=sPiah-8pCQk&ref=share To create your translation, just type along with the video and save when done. Check out the full list of programs that you can contribute to here: ru-vid.com_cs_panel?c=UCShHFwKyhcDo3g7hr4f1R8A&tab=2 The World Science Festival strives to cultivate a general public that's informed and awed by science. Thanks to your contributions, we can continue to share the wonder of scientific discoveries with the world.
I would like to try typing some English subtitles for you but how do I find out which videos are already done? The link provided does not indicate which videos are being worked on. Thanks
Hi Jude, sorry I don't know, I wrote to them but they haven't replied. I will contribute a little from time to time but it looks like this video hasn't had much done on it yet.
TheIAMINU I've always felt the same way about that! the voices are always there judging and arguing with u... its just not auditory to them or they r so far gone they cant decipher their true thoughts n feeling from this external source silently telling them what to think and how to feel
I completely agree It also means that the bias in the observations of the first two speakers (perhaps the presentation chairlady!) is age-old judgemental view of the non-mad of us mad. I am treated bipolar scientist and can easily prove that the bias of onservation is unfair. I have met and smelt my own multiple symptoms amongst the huddles of hundreds of friends and anons in the web and milieu of 'normal' life. The scientific literature that I have read copiously clearly indicates that the undetected sample of afflicted, non-treated and non-normal 'normal' voice hearers causes the bias that maintains prejudice in close to medieval levels. Hear the voices, speak back to them, but don't obey them if they are mis-behaving. If you don't need to hear, then don't.
creativity arising from depression is exactly my experience; you gotta go to the deep waters to catch a big fish. There's also creativity going into depression but is blurrier and it burns faster
As good old Krishnamurti rightly said, "Thought is the pollutant." The rational mind - so prized in our day - is a good tool but a bad master. To get stuck in the thinking function (Jung classified four functions - thinking - feeling - sensing - intuiting) is to become unbalanced by definition. Artistic genius brings all these to a high degree of perfection which sees the world clearly in all its madness, brutality, corruption and stupidity. The prospect of this may lead to a breakdown of some sort. Edvard Munch, a painter of genius, had such a breakdown and sadly fell into the hands of the electric shock medics who cured him of his 'madness' and alcoholism... and also his genius. Now he was officially 'sane' his paintings became banal and unimaginative and ordinary. But then that's what the medics want - for you to be as ordinary as them. So called madness may be the reaction of a sane person to a mad world where psychosis is a safe place to hide.
Bad Hostesses. She turned all 3 participants into patients she is interviewing. If it was some other host it would have been better discussion where they talk as experts/doctors/professors rather than like a patient.
Agreed, I felt this convo needed to be much more empowering towards the guests (especially given their rank) we know nothing about the host and she came off as pretentious and judgmental . This could have been handled in a much more empathetic and equatable way.
Spent some time in a mental hospital after a psychotic episode and met more intelligent and creative people inside the hospital than outside (the patients, not the staff, although i have to say the staff were some of the nicest people I've met)
What is normal? Our species is knowingly destroying the air we breathe--and a significant percentage of the global population (including USA) lives under pathocracy (governments ruled by sociopaths)--THAT is insanity.
Normals: Stephen Hawking, Miles Davis, MLK, Malcolm X, Bach, Kobe Bryant, Chet Atkins, Niels Bohr, Jimmy Stewart, FDR, Eddie Van Halen, Paul McCartney, Babe Ruth, Emmanuel Kant, Lao Tzu, George Gershwin, Leonard Nimoy... I'd say they're a pretty interesting lot.
A thought that helped me level with life: only one who cannot function in a depraved world stands a chance of being a good person. Justifying failure. No regrets. 👍🏻
+Chris Topher A lot of commenters in this discussion field say the same, and I don't understand people like you. Is it really more important to be irritated because someone have a bad laugh, instead of listening to what she and others really says -- and make comments on _relevant_ things? I am here because I want to learn things, so a bad laugh is only a thing to ignore.
+Stroheim333 while i do agree with you on that this should not be relevant. Many people - myself included - try to listen and follow the speakers train of thought. A distracting laugh like this in combination with bad sound mixing creates an acoustic environment that makes it hard to follow the conversation. So while you might be able to "tune this out" others might just not be able to. The topic and speakers are very interesting but i had to stop half way through...
The issue with just turning up the volume would be that you'd make the laugh louder aswell... Also it is not a problem of acoustically undertanding! It's an irritating sound like someone honking a horn everytime to keep you from concentrating. Just throws me off completely and i dont seem to be the only one.
Hello. There is no option to show subtitles in your videos. For me the automaticly made subtitles would be helpful, because my english isn‘t very well (scientific words are even more difficult and less common). If you want to reach more people you should consider the subtitles. I would be thankful for the better if I could understand you better.
I already know about downloading videos and converting it to mp3 form, it's just much easier to have access to the audio without having to download each of them individually, that's what makes podcasts so convenient, especially if you're really busy all the time.
1st think how irrational is to think a big channel will even bother to read the massive amount of comments on their videos. second, that wasn't a suggestion. but more of an excuse to complain about something that is nothing but a personal inconvenience. Instead of being such a winning little bastard be thankful for the free information the channel has provided.
I say to the voices 'I am having mental health problems so to please keep quiet for a while as I sort this out.' ... and it works. This may be that in addressing them in this manner I am showing respect. Further, this may be a key to resolving this issue as this approach is far from the usual response that 'voices' are used to, i.e. extreme. Try it out. I would be interested to know of any results that have been obtained.
She misrepresented Josh Nash when she said that he was hesitant to take medication because it would stifle his mathematical creativity. She got this from the movie which was highly inaccurate. From the book “The Beautiful Mind” he did his best work before he got sick. In his later years, when he went through remission, he said that his schizophrenic years were marked by an absence of rational thought.
Its not madness is perception from a different wavelength. Your brain is what tell you what you see but those that argue based on only their own perception are truly the mad ones.
One can only wonder at just how effective these personalities could possibly be as psychological 'aids' considering how self-absorbed the majority of them all seem to be with their own mental issues. I can't help but reference the classic notion that no one is in greater need of psychological help than those that go into the field of psycho-dynamics; their motivations are fueled by their own 'psycho-dysfunctions'. These people are the quintessential poster children that prove the point. Nevertheless, I find these sorts of discussions to be quite fascinating...
zenmeister451 Double-edged sword. Either full dive or fearfully hide to preserve blissful ignorance. Mental illness is an illusion, that can be overcome with self discipline and limited social exposure. (Predictable plebian drivel is best taken in small doses, don't project your expectations on them it's hypocrisy ultimately.)
Genius, outside of the box thinkers, experiencialists, will always be labelled or dismissed as ‘mavericks or nutters. Only those who experience real consciousness, presence, high intensity attention to detail, those who have the privilege to experience moments of total freedom and uninterrupted concentration can dance the music other distracted minds can’t even hear.
It is really difficult to get good anti-anxiety drugs like opiates and barbiturates. Modern medicine has become so paranoid about addiction that many of us suffer unnecessarily. They would rather we suffer than be addicted to anti-anxiety drugs. Now that is an insane situation induced by so-called sane medical practitioners. Who cares if someone is addicted to a drug when the benefits far outweigh the negatives? Doctors who are content that we suffer every day of our lives. Medicine needs to be more concerned with alleviating suffering than being obsessed with the politically correct false notion that addiction is evil. It's a hangover of the war on drugs that has intruded on medicine. We let the American war on drugs interfere with good medicine, which in turn leads to mass suffering. American ideology, which is Extreme Christian nutcase ideology pollutes the world. Medicine has bowed to the will of the far right wing fascists. Now that is insane.
LIQUID M.D. thaats a reason why so many are dope....heroin addicts! Doctors fear losing their "lifestyle" and cautiously write scripts! I been seeing the same doc for 6 years.....still get my meds, no problem....but I also never failed a drug test!
The world needs to listen to all of us ancient mariners who accidentally shot the bird of good omen....our sane and rational mind. Psychiatrists and psychologists need to be humble, talk to us, listen to us and truly learn from us. Not as lab specimens, but to listen to our learned wisdom regarding insanity. If they actually realise we have alot to teach them, not from imaging our brains, but listening to our story. People with mental illnesses are the experts on the matter, not the psychiatrists, this is the next level of understanding that needs to occur for the mind sciences to make real progress. It's not good to have a top-down approach to knowledge on the matter of the mind. The so-called experts are useless practitioners on the whole. There is something wrong fundamentally with the paradigm they operate from. They focus way too much on the hardware of neurons and neurotransmitters. But that is only one aspect of our mind. We need to treat people at the level of the human being, not at the level of the brain. We need to treat people at the level of lived experience, and how people truly view themselves and their life, not at the level of neurotransmitters, which is too simplistic. Psychiatrists need to come out of their ivory towers and realise they are failing. A paradigm shift is absolutely necessary. No other field of medicine has been allowed to get away with being so ineffective. The only advance in psychiatric treatment has been better drugs with less side effects. But this is ultimately the achievement of drug companies more than that of your average psychiatrist. Of course a big problem is that society refuses to fund mental health adequately. But it is up to the psychologists and psychiatrists and the social welfare field to lobby for more funding, force governments to adequately fund mental health. But they also need to step up their game, even if they can't get any more money. The field of mental health suffers from denial. It cannot see how drastically it is failing. If the medicine of treating the body was as incompetent as the mental health field, every doctor would be broke from being sued and in jail for malpractice. It is completely amazing that psychiatrists seem to be above the law, because they essentially operate from a modus operandi of malpractice. They get paid an enormous amount to spectacularly fail in treating mental illness.
They have sold themselves as knowing more than they do, and as being more effective than they are. Psychiatry and psychology are very powerful institutions. Society has believed their PR. Psychiatrists are as powerful and in some cases, more powerful than judges. I think it is a fundamentally corrupt institution...psychiatry and psychology. I have a BA in psychology. And know the system from a patients view as well. I have also seen the power of psychiatrists in a court of law. It all seems to be quite corrupt.
LIQUID M.D. Guys, guys, listen to lecture by Alan Watts on youtube titled "The Value of Psychotic Experience", I think it's highly related to what you guys are talking about and it's a great talk, Watts was very fascinating speaker.
LIQUID M.D. Indeed, it reminds me distinctly of the Socratic assault on sophists, where these days we pay "experts" tremendous sums of money for their "wisdom" their "advice" their "knowledge" their "help". A rather clever, albeit banal evil.
+LIQUID M.D. listen i dont think that all of the psychiatrists in the world are the same ,, my biggest dream is to become a psychiatrist and i promise that i will not be the way you think of psychiatrists i dont know why i am telling you all this but i am 15 years old and i am going after that dream ,,, i hope we can meet sometime in the future ^^ pray for me and send me support and i promise i wont disappoint you :))
Thank you to all panelists for an excellent presentation and overall for bringing your own life experience in this so hard subject that affect individually as well as families.
I think everyone mentally ill goes through what this woman describes at 53:00. After 5 years on medication, I spent about 2 years trying to cope with bipolar off the medication, trying to prove that I controlled the illness, not vice versa. What a disaster. My life is SO much better on regular medication and therapy.
I kept denying that I was bipolar for the longest time, only finally talking to a doctor [diagnosed type 2, true mania rare but happens, hypomania in small bursts all the time, nonstop depression. I am a writer and also worried about hurting my creativity, but having begun using drugs for mind expansion and meditation at 15 that eventually changed into just urge to be on something, I realized I had stopped writing because the drugs, not the depression or hypomania. In order to not think about suicide 15-30 times a day, everyday, forever I take an SSRI which did have a short month long "no feeling numbness" but that went away. The medication helps with survival but I want those hypomanic episodes. I just which i could control it as it makes me very unprofessional at work where I am being built and pushed into middle management, a concept that scares me [ think James Joyce's The Dead] but a current necessity to be able to afford to live and have a somewhat normal life. Also, I hate to say it but dang the moderator on this is sexy as fuck. Maybe its her inquisitiveness and the passion flowing her eyes when she talks to the panel. intelligence is attractive
i honestly can not wait until my pain in this world/life is over,,,,,,,,,,oh Lord,how i try ,day in and day out to make it better,,,,but you never seem to help me
Don Scott i don't have any answers, but i know everything changes. The pain may not get better, but it does change. Hang on, if for nothing else than to see the next change in the next scene of the movie that is life.
Don Scott Pain heals. The body and mind pains when they are healing. The dis-ease about the state of the world/life is a valid sickness, only it is not recognised too much.
Don Scott Amen. Have you by the way checked Alan Watts's lectures from youtube? He talked about this subject sometimes and thought you might find it interesting.
DivineMoment That man was one of greatest philosophers who ever lived. Every time he opened his mouth, pure wisdom would just pour out. I could literally sit through hours upon hours just listening to his lectures.
I think we will soon discover it is viruses and bacteria that are the cause for most of these challenges. The other massive problem is our culture and how we treat people who are sick. It wasn't until the movie rainman that Kim Peek was able to look people in the eye. And like many who have challenges before him- it was accomplishment or acknowledgement that gained support from the community- who then treated him differently and accepted him for who he was that allowed him to flourish. Bethoven-Newton-Tesla- Cezanne-nash Unfortunately how many and how much have we lost because society does not allow to prosper.
The problem with labelling rare minds is that a generic establishment becomes ‘witch hunters’ instead of an open institution that’s capable of holding all form of resources. Like a book shop.
Bipolar Women have tremendous love for their husbands. Normal people cant love like that. My wife used to say we are not death do us apart but tied for ever.
So here's 3 living examples that the integration and well-health of an individual or a community is not a "nature versus nurture" debate, but definitely, undebate-ably, community nurturing nature - the nature of individuals.
The scientist John Nash of the fame - film beautiful mind had psychosis not of very primal - killing, death or suicide but of being destroyed if successful... That is a category where you will mostly find the creativity as the threat to destroy owns life is less.
Ben Lynch, who describes himself as an epigeneticist, cites research that indicates that the environment that the developing brain inhabits, at different stages of in utero and postnatal neurological development, affects intelligence as well as physical anomalies that negatively affect cognition, learning ability, emotional health, endocrine function, the list goes on. My family has MTHFR polymorphisms; we also have a family history of all of the above; very smart people who are schizophrenic, dyslexic, ADHD, ASD, with gland disorders, clinical depression, sensory processing disorder, etc, etc, etc.... I have family members with a certain selectivity for self interest, but it's a bit extreme to say that I have psychopathology in my family tree.
You are all very intelligent, I would be interested to learn of how the Lady with schizophrenia gained the ability to distinguish between secondary and primary psychosis, as well as acknowledge variation between delusions/hallucinations and sanity? The chap in the middle reminds me of Alan from the hangover, just the intelligent version, mixed in with Sideshow Bob from the simpsons and Pierce Brosnan as 007. I would characterise him as a neuro agent, I would happily get lunch with James, kool as ice.
It's the soundmixer that leveled the microphones REAL bad. The guy in the middle is super low. The lady on the right super high. Her laugh taking over his speech. Need to turn up the volyme when he speaks, and turn it down when she speaks.
@@gonnaga9302 Is it just me or does this level of incompetence in audio engineering seem to always come from channels/sources you'd expect a much higher level of professionalism from? Like, large news channels, channels like this one, other extremely well known and well funded sources who do this kind of thing on a daily basis seem to be the ones that do the most horrible job at the most basic volume leveling and normalization tasks, but the smaller youtube channels with a bunch of kids talking about their favorite video game, or other channels that you wouldn't expect to have high levels of post production can seem to get this right. It's somewhat understandable to have these kinds of issues in a live audience, or a live stream, however this is a video that should have had some very basic post production work done to it before uploading it, but it would seem, no one gave a crap, and given this seems to be a common theme with every single world science festival video I've seen so far, i find it rather sad, I'm here to listen to talks about interesting things in the science world, not man my volume control the entire time i watch a video, that's not my job, in fact, isn't that a job someone else was probably paid for?, someone should probably fire that clown.
I've been living in Vietnam for a decade, and I just let it go. Easy as pie :). This is what you do: let all the things that do not help you, go; all the time. It does take practice.
What about left handed people and has there every been a left handed serial killer, and has any on those on the panel read the book “The Divided Brain” or “The Master and The Emersary” ...??
I wish James Fallon would have been more clear about the fact he is a psychopath in order to dispel stereotypes about them, because people generally have a really poor understanding of what kind of person a psychopath is. Most people think of them as serial killers or people who want to kill, rather than understanding that psychopathy is defined not by a desire to kill but by a lack of empathy, which leads to the "bad" behavior Fallon admitted to. There is plenty of harm that can be done by people with a lack of empathy other than murder. I feel like his mental illness was danced around and glossed over. Then again, it is typical of them to misrepresent the truth in order to be more likeable.
one of the biggest problems people with mental illnesses face are the peope who try to put a positive spin on their pain or tell them to look at the bright side, etc(like what this host did the whole time).
God is not a voice you hear God is the morality within us that sets limits so when they're talking to God, it's not hearing someone's voice (that's not possible) it's my thoughts correcting or judging me, The fruits of God is Love,compassion,gentleness ect... This is explained in the bible it's you who become a new creation you know not to sin by the consciousness that you hear, that's what we mean that God talks to us, it's a "voice" more like common sense and people who don't talk to themselves.
so what about a person like me who dreams and see things events etc before they happen? Touch someone and know about them. I feel and know its a God given gift. but its hard to focus on now knowing what's ahead. proof in many ledgers written.
You are schizophrenic, i was like that too. The problem is you don't see that all those things are you hallucinating your own thoughts so vividly and making very smart guesses about what might follow based on your thoughts your experiences your biased mind as much as what you see and learn. No one can see the future. Trust me. That's just you thinking you don't know the future you are making educated guesses and hallucinating them.
And touch someone and you will know about them that's and illusion trust me speaking from experience here. That's you! You are guessing, thinking, judging, making whole lot of assumptions and don't watch those lord of the rings, superman, those awesome alien movies we all like those are and psychics stay away those are toxic for you it will just make you believe you are normal or worse special
Wouldnt photons travel faster and faster as time progresses if our universe were truly expanding? Why wouldnt it be affected by expansion? Expansion would cause time dialation by itself wouldnt it?
I'm an intellectual, thus different, thus insane by the standard of hopeless mediocrity pressed upon the masses of people trapped in willful ignorance. I'm a crazy fox shepherd, don't mind me observing you, go about your business sheep. The Fox is always watching from the center of chaos that is the creative mind. What the mind creates, comes to be, through the aspirations of man. Selfish mania leads to dire tragedies. But selfless pursuit leads to absolute prosperity. People are intentionally led away from this realizable utopia sadly.
If you hear voices, that means that your senses are very sharp, it is a gift that not everyone has, it depends on who you are, if you have this gift I recommend you, whatever happens around you, try to be at peace with yourself, you will not allow darkness to deceive you, perhaps one day you will realize, when the creator speaks to you. In this life and the next stay in the light, Ramon Sandoval. Si tu escuchas voces, eso quiere decir que tus sentidos estan muy agudos, es un don que no todos tienen, depende la persona que seas, si tienes este regalo te recomiendo, pase lo que pase al rededor tuyo, trata de estar en paz con tigo mismo, no permitirás que la oscuridad te engane, talvez un dia te des cuenta, cuando el creador te habla. En esta vida y la siguiente quedate en la luz, Ramon Sandoval.
Ramon Sandoval I do agree with you .. have to have very very sharp hearing and attention to hear auditory voice I heard from the age of 7 years old all the way through my life I have bipolar schizophrenia ptsd depression fibromyalgia and I love my life I had dreams visions I am a high achiever .. I made friends with my illness
Had a hard time listening to them talking about this topic. When you right a mental breakdown as "just happening", there is a lack of self awareness being applied. I also find it consistent with people who have these psychological problems is that their coping mechanisms are severely lacking or unhealthy. I refuse to accept the idea that you become messed up out of nowhere
I think the guy with the beard "wants" to appear as a psychopath rather then actually being one. See it in people all the time, specially when going through the questionnaire and having an understanding of how it works and where it leads to. If ego takes control and someone wants to believe they are a psychopath, they will bend their answers due to a lack of general honesty with them selves. Which to me would show something of an ego maniac rather then a psychopath. Have found these questionnaires to be unreliable alot of the time... A good example is the British questionnaire test for depression where all the questions ask about is negative feelings... rather then positive feelings. Of which no matter how much of a positive person you are you can relate to these feelings because everyone is human and everyone has negative feelings. Doesn't necessarily mean your depressed though, just means your human. But if you can relate to every negative question then they sign you of as depressed and pump you full of meds. What would be a better method would be asking positive questions equal to that of negative questions to really have a proper analysis of someones emotional state.
I would have liked to watch this all the way through. However that one person has this constant, annoying and deafening laugh. Whomever was in charge of the mixer should have muted their mic when they were not speaking.
Madness is like being an actor in a film under which you have no direction. You can only watch as this thing called life plays out in horror before you.
The one guy's incessant, nervous laughter on mike absolutely made this unwatchable for me. I'm fascinated by the subject but after a few minutes, the repetitive "ha ha ha" drove me to give up and abandon this video. It's a shame they couldn't overcome something that basic.
I think a PSY D. Or someone from the field would have made a better host than this woman. Not that she did a bad job but it’s clear she’s got gaps in her understanding and I just think someone else would have asked better questions and responded to their responses more appropriately. It just would have been good for the audience to help them grasp these concepts more fully. Or I’m missing something, she’s just a TV person right? Just an interviewer? That said, Still super interesting. And most people watching this are probably from the mental health or medical field anyway and could fill in the blanks themselves... oh well.
Maybe I am a bit impatient, but it was the man, who drived me crazy. Millions of words used to tell something simple, often ending in loose ends. And at the important and interesting things, as with the pictures on the wall and the personality test, he stops suddenly. This behaveour irritated me badly. He makes on me the impression, he find himself a very humouristic man, he seems to like himself very much. I find the two ladies beside of him far more sympathic. Yes, that laugh, HAHAHA, I also found it irritating, but I liked her as a person. Not that pompous man.
The male speakers doesn't help his case when he fails to fully explain the protocols for data collection and how that data is reflected in his graphs; we need p-values and correlation coefficients. This is a World Science Festival, if you're going to rely on graphs, you're going to have to fully explain your data.
I am extremely common sense deficient; where does that sit on the spectrum? And does the fact I scarcely care indicate some level of socio-narciss-schizio-pathology?🤔🧐🙄🤫😂
Well I don't and you don't in the sense of having absolute certainty, but I do have reason to believe that it's highly likely that if I jump off the roof of the building that I'm standing on you won't die.
Romans 3:8 Why not say-as some slanderously claim that we say-"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation EMPTY WORD ANTICHRIST is just! Ask for evil and Evil will say hell is just for such and who wants to come to hell join with me the Antichrist Says 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.” 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
Revelation 13:15 “And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.” Transhumanists and Google DO Not write the Future
