Magda vs Alela vs Thrasios/Ishai vs Thrasios/Tevesh | CEDH Gameplay 

I'm gonna use this

I had the realisation that with SNC you can tell your opponents to sleep with the fishes for when you're thoracling

That's like one of the least broken things she does though lol

Rules Committee better keep an eye out on Dwarven Grunt, the card is absurdly pushed

@@iansevertson4131 oke jasper

I'd rather use altar of the brood, it's faster 😂

@@lucaswalker824 but it is more "certain" to win if you exile their cards. No shuffle titans etc.

I am waiting for the time when Stifle enters the meta. At that point, letting your opponents draw their decks might go horribly wrong.

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@@ecclesiaandune687 there was several games and that was just one.

And then it was only short ones

I saw magda and was like “no it’s not” magda is too fast and too furious.

I love Alela and was hoping to see it do Alela things...then shurg...thoracle win.

@@djjmandos It do be like that in cEDH

@@CosmicGiggalo Sometimes it be like that. When I play it , I'm like glad I got that win. When I watch games, I'm like, I wish this was more grindy.

Glad you like them!

Discard his hand and shuffle it, so he doesn't exile them to memory jar and thus mill himself

That does trigger Gitrog draw ability so Noah would have lost unless he was able to discard Ulamog at instant speed.

That’s funky he did lose because of that

@@letsflyfun He had an activated ability that only had the cost "Discard a card". He could discard at instant speed.

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It is because he can not generate Red mana due to playing Gitrog, so it can only make colorless.

@@shimo8350 commander hasn't worked that way for several years now

Forgetting there is a magus of the moon in play. Whoopsies.

It can randomly strip all the win cons out of some opponents libraries

Magna isn't recasting any spells so the free counters don't work. I think it basically relies on hoping your opponents don't draw force of vigor + green card in a 7 and less people are playing mogg salavage nowadays. I do agree that the wincon doesnt seem super deterministic

@@Zarcrath None of those matter, since Magda can respond to them to keep the loops going on top of the interaction on the stack.

Stay tuned...

well since all of the attacks went in Adam's way and considering Gardner had a Galvanic Blast in hand, I'm thinking Gardner wanted Adam to block with Drannith so he could kill it with Galvanic Blast. I'm guessing Adam knew Gardner had some kind of trick up his sleeve and didn't block (which imo was the correct play here)

@@cristianprado8559 Ah, that makes sense. Thank you very much!

It should only take a few minutes max to run through once you're familiar with the deck :)

I stand corrected then:)

Idk. It is a good card. Hopefully someone who knows alot about cedh can tell us cause I have no clue lol.

Even stifle doesn't see play

More concise answers to thoracle that fall into this category are Angel's grace and trickbind since they cant be responded to. However these cards are extremely narrow. It's important to note cards in 4 instances of the game known as the quadrant theory. There are 4 places in a game, when developing, ahead, at parity, and behind. When you're developing tale's end is super narrow and doesnt halpe. When you're ahead, you would rather have a card that pushes towards winning. When you're a parity, countering a commander may help sometimes. And when you're behind, using counterspells to try to police is not great. Basically considering these 4 states can help determine the usefulness of cards in the meta

Another factor is that counterspells are already pretty tight in commander, why not just run the better 1 mana counters or use the 2 mana counters that are less narrow/put you farther ahead

Most people play dress down for this reason. Dress down is much less narrow and can stop a lot of creature combos, not just thoracle. It also cantrips so there is that as well. As to why not tales end, it’s just too narrow for what it does, and usually just turns into “counter target commander” which can be good, but doesn’t justify a slot in most decks.

It should have been " You are already dead"

@@enricus2479 oooh good one haha

Playing with misplays

he had two basic forests one of them was a snow covered forest the other was from Unsanctioned

It’s mentioned in the video at 17:18: he exiles Prismatic Vista with Deathrite Shaman to add a green.

Dwarven Grunt has mountainwalk and Magus of the Moon makes non basiclands mountains

Mountainwalk is on thanks to Blood Moon

Seriously, it feels like every magda game, they play a turn one dwarf, aren't interacted with, and win on turn 4

@@KingCWaffa im not mad about magda winning a lot, but for example i clearly tend to prioritize ouphe effect if i play them and kinda shift my playstyle a bit around it. not to say to ignore the rest of the table that would be foolish but its hard to interact with once it starts rolling and i cant start to play mogg salvage on default just because of one deck in the meta (even if my meta consists of 4 people irl and that means magda happens a lot). i think thats what people shouldve realized by now, if fiddlebender was played more people would adapt too.

@@trveheimer6360 Oh absolutely, not meaning to complain at all with that, just affirming your assertion

@@KingCWaffa i get a feeling people acknowledged winota faster and while she had sucess in tournaments it was not that (deserved) medial hype that magda got. whenever i play a deck that has the option to go beats in whatever small degree i even go for the ad naus necessary when there is one deck most of my interaction cant target.

no one need sgo shintai go commit toaster bath

Aven Mind Censor kept him from searching up any relevant answer but he was trying to clutch something relevant out of the top 4