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MAGIC ∩ PENNY: When a legend returned to face his successor ... and helped take Shaq from him 

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Anfernee “Penny” Hardaway comes from a whole different era than Magic Johnson. He’s a product of the ‘90s, with a legacy colored by those of his greatest teammate, Shaquille O’Neal, his greatest playoff rival, Michael Jordan, and many others who shared the court with him. Not so much Magic Johnson.
In fact, Penny entered the NBA billed as “the next Magic.” Johnson had spent the ‘80s defining an exceptional legacy: A big, powerful player who played point guard, the position traditionally reserved for the smallest player on the floor. As a 6’9” ball-handler and passer, Johnson won a stack of championships and individual accolades, and did so with panache.
By the early 1990s, when Hardaway came to the league, Johnson had retired to manage his stunning HIV diagnosis. So Penny - himself the size of a forward, but nimble and creative like a point guard - seemed poised as anyone to carry the torch for this positional anomaly. Getting drafted by the Orlando Magic, who already had Shaq to play Kareem to Penny’s Magic (and, yes, a fitting team name), gave Hardaway an even better chance of dazzling the ‘90s the way Johnson had his own, distinct era.
But then the eras overlapped! In 1996, Magic Johnson returned to play a handful of games with the Lakers, two of them against Orlando. Episode 1 is about the build-up that made those games fascinating, the mood in and around that intersection of legacies, and at least one extremely important product of the meeting.
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
Directed and edited by Michael Das
Edited by Ryan Simmons
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@withalittlehelpfrom3
@withalittlehelpfrom3 3 года назад
And as a big Memphis fan, I can assure you Penny is still beloved in his hometown! He’s currently coaching U of Memphis’ basketball team, and killing it. Not to mention activism of his own. We’ll always love him!
@SiccDeville
@SiccDeville 2 года назад
i remember watching a documentary of him taking over his friend's coaching job because his friend was violently ill and asked Penny to take over for him.
@jpteix
@jpteix 4 года назад
A wise man once said: "Magic Jonhson stole the best name ever for a pornstar."
@hipking23
@hipking23 4 года назад
Lmao 😂 😂 😂 😂
@jamesedwards5070
@jamesedwards5070 3 года назад
😂🤣😂🤣😂 Aye, he did Magic in those days in the bedrooms too
@JameAndy-be1pv
@JameAndy-be1pv 3 года назад
I miss Penny and wish he could have been healthy for his whole career
@jpteix
@jpteix 3 года назад
@@JameAndy-be1pv We all do. He had everything to be the next great thing. But the injury were out of his control.
@jpteix
@jpteix 3 года назад
@@JameAndy-be1pv We all do. He had everything to be the next great thing. But the injury were out of his control.
@justanotheryoutuber1997
@justanotheryoutuber1997 4 года назад
Wow they just mentioned this a couple hours ago and already have it out? This is why we love you guys. Yall are what ESPN is supposed to be
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis 4 года назад
There was a trailer for it last week that said it debuts today
@zaw33mc24
@zaw33mc24 4 года назад
They’ve probably had it in the works for weeks
@geegarcia7858
@geegarcia7858 4 года назад
I agree 💯💯💯
@GANGLYMAN117
@GANGLYMAN117 4 года назад
Lol "ESPN has been driving around downtown frantically texting SB Nation asking for their employees resumes." Secret Base definitely works quick like you mentioned. Also, didn't this channel JUST come out and it already has almost 1 million subscribers?!? That's such as testament to the quality of videos SB makes and how loyal their fanbase is. All of it is well deserved. Edit: nevermind this is just a renamed SB Nation. My dumbass thought it was a brand new channel. That was far from right lol.
@zaw33mc24
@zaw33mc24 4 года назад
TheHumbleNarcissist this channel has been around for 8 years they just changed the name lol
@shaolinotter
@shaolinotter 4 года назад
i haven’t kept up with the nba, but I was obsessed with penny in the 90s. I’m still and orlando fan today
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 4 года назад
overlap, champ bailey, deion sanders and darryl green. 3 of the best corners were on the same team for a year.
@kvngof0634
@kvngof0634 4 года назад
That would be cool
@DoctorGarro
@DoctorGarro 4 года назад
That’s a great episode waiting to happen.
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 4 года назад
@@DoctorGarro probably not gonna happen. Might be scared to mention the Re-skins this close to the rebranding
@Juice-ig3jz
@Juice-ig3jz 3 года назад
Three first ballot hofers
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 года назад
I'm a Skins fan, I can tell you that after the strong 1999 season when we made those huge splashes in free agency, the hype was THROUGH THE ROOF.
@big_tea1983
@big_tea1983 4 года назад
As a 90's baby, I can confirm. Lil' Penny was the coolest f$*kin thing at the time.
@SiccDeville
@SiccDeville 2 года назад
voiced by Chris Rock!
@kevinsheahan9347
@kevinsheahan9347 4 года назад
I’m trying to become an actor and I don’t think you guys realize how much you’ve influenced me the last few years. Acting is all about studying human beings and why they make the choices they make, and this channel really goes in depth into what these athletes were thinking. Brilliant, brilliant work.
@donniepistone6347
@donniepistone6347 4 года назад
Good luck Bro
@mashwork6615
@mashwork6615 4 года назад
Penny losing his superstardom to injury was way more hurtful to me as a magic fan than Shaq leaving
@mylesmclain2816
@mylesmclain2816 4 года назад
LaDainian Tomlison and Adrian Peterson should get an over lap. Only played one game against each other, LaDainian won the rushing title that year, but Adrian Peterson took something more special that day. Edit: Just checked and they did play in 2010, but 2007 is the best game of the matchup.
@LeeeWai
@LeeeWai 2 года назад
When I was a kid Anferne Penny Hardaway was my favorite player, Shaq favorite center and Orlando Magic my favorite Team. For a kid from Slovenija watching NBA was amazing experience. We are small cuntry and basketball was our favorite national sport. We had many good player for 2 million population, many played in nba like Brezec, Nesterović, Dragič, and now we even have super star in Luka Doncic. Anyway Penny and Shaq were amazing and if not for injuries he would have great carrer.
@kayleighlehrman9566
@kayleighlehrman9566 4 года назад
I'd love to see an OverLap for some of the pitchers who pitched to MJ or Tebow, especially those who went on to make a name for themselves in the Major Leagues
@shaifromwherever8620
@shaifromwherever8620 4 года назад
Terry Francona was coach of that minor league team MJ played for, and he went on to win the Red Sox a world series or two.
@willstern3755
@willstern3755 4 года назад
box from wherever he became one of the best managers of all time
@tretimes9883
@tretimes9883 3 года назад
I doubt there are any in game pitchers that pitched to both Jordan and Tebow. Too many years in between.
@Tykoon22
@Tykoon22 4 года назад
I remember Penny being my favorite player and the reason I was an Orlando Magic fan as a kid.
@wafflesthewookiee4716
@wafflesthewookiee4716 4 года назад
Guy Lafleur, arguably the greatest Montreal Canadien of all time, and Mats Sundin, arguably the greatest Toronto Maple Leaf of all time, played on the same team together for one season... on the Quebec Nordiques. Now that’s an overlap.
@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372
@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 4 года назад
I can only imagine Hardaway's impact on the future of the game had he stayed healthy
@jesserice7777
@jesserice7777 4 года назад
(Or how Shaq left for the Lakers.) 🤔
@rashb3994
@rashb3994 4 года назад
Hardaway had a very strong impact because he had plenty of good years before the injuries. That what if, waa more about if he could've done something on a championship team.
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 4 года назад
rash b he had 3 years healthy dummy😂
@melvynsngltn27
@melvynsngltn27 4 года назад
@@rashb3994 only a few good seasons playing with Shaq
@rashb3994
@rashb3994 4 года назад
@@TheSands83 Hey genius, the name of the game is impact. He was the biggest thing back then, he went to the Finals, had the commercials, carried the league when Jordan was out, beat him when he first came back, influenced plenty of players. Lol, silly millenials who weren't even past childhood during the time commenting like they know. His prime wasn't going to be much different, its more about what team would have helped. He played okay in in Phoenix hus post injury prime.
@rjallday28
@rjallday28 4 года назад
Penny was the lebron of the 90s, that guy was special.
@seano6859
@seano6859 4 года назад
In a perfect world; we get an uninjured penny, Shaq, and an unblossomed tmac on the magic together in the early 2000’s - wanna live in that reality
@urmanao24
@urmanao24 4 года назад
Lil Penny was hilarious 🤣 "That was Tyra Banks fool"
@fishflake1209
@fishflake1209 4 года назад
It’s the fourth round of men’s singles at the 2001 Wimbledon Championships. The top seed has won this tournament seven of the last eight years, and appears to be in great form. His opponent, the 15 seed, is a Swiss teenager who is already receiving buzz as the future of tennis. The two players have never faced off on the court before, and they ultimately never will again. It’s *OVERLAP: Sampras-Federer.*
@GabrielGarcia-ht8sr
@GabrielGarcia-ht8sr 4 года назад
I really like this one
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 4 года назад
Yeah, that’s definitely a good one
@levisguy53
@levisguy53 2 года назад
they actually did play again. it was just an exhibition match, but it was televised. i cannot recall all the details but it want to say it was in asia and Sampras was about 36 and was beat handily.
@prakharagnihotri8522
@prakharagnihotri8522 4 года назад
Feeling like a secret agent in secret base..... GOAT channel renamed
@pac12shorts90
@pac12shorts90 4 года назад
Rewinder idea: Andy Dalton pass to break the Bills playoff drought
@elite3762
@elite3762 4 года назад
now this is a good rewinder
@austinadams6042
@austinadams6042 4 года назад
Good call sir
@lucatartaglia4007
@lucatartaglia4007 4 года назад
You guys should make one of these on Wayne Gretzky and Gordie Howe both playing in the 1980 Allstar game
@leibmenter2331
@leibmenter2331 4 года назад
This comment doesn’t have enough likes
@Rodanguirus
@Rodanguirus Год назад
I also want to signal-boost this comment. The 1980 NHL All-Star Game is pretty well-known among hockey fans, but probably less so among general sports fans, and it's a really cool story. Also, before entering the NHL, Gretzky's first full year as a pro was in the WHA's final season. Howe also played in the WHA, and their teams met in the 1979 WHA Semis, which ended up going a full seven games.
@Smoggygotdajuice
@Smoggygotdajuice 4 года назад
I’m seeing history
@jamesedwards5070
@jamesedwards5070 3 года назад
You are the product of the history of you and your mother shared.
@bebei0000
@bebei0000 4 года назад
Every time a Penny nostalgia comes up,we're reminded of the what-ifs. Penny and Grant Hill...
@logicaldude3611
@logicaldude3611 3 года назад
TMac and Hill were on the Magic, they were supposed to be the next great duo. And Tim Duncan almost joined them in Orlando, that would have been the first modern super team with 3 young stars joining up in their primes.
@seoulting28
@seoulting28 4 года назад
For the Jordan ∩ Kobe Overlap, could that be next year, please. It's been seven months and I still cry when I see Kobe in a video.
@deflategate1297
@deflategate1297 3 года назад
Magic Johnson hyped up everyone lol good guy
@sw0rdhyd350
@sw0rdhyd350 4 года назад
The two hockey GOATs (Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky) were both in the NHL for 1 season: 1979-1980. A 51 year old Howe faced a 19 year old Gretzky 4 times that season.
@tredeep6556
@tredeep6556 4 года назад
“Secret Base”Love it 💯.
@Birdman32
@Birdman32 4 года назад
Damn.. Penny, man. A goat that just got hurt.. Mix of Magic and Kobe
@Marcus-ml3gt
@Marcus-ml3gt 4 года назад
I seriously don’t know how you guys don’t have a tv contract with a major sports network or something. I could watch a whole hour of Secret Base content over Sportscenter anyday! Keep up the great work
@asaptenebrae2240
@asaptenebrae2240 3 года назад
It s because they are good 😁
@Bigedub101
@Bigedub101 2 года назад
Cause then they be delegated to talk about the same players and topics
@yl6442
@yl6442 3 года назад
I was a kid in 1996. And yes, lil penny was sensational.
@jalenmarshall9992
@jalenmarshall9992 4 года назад
CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS AFTER SCHOOL
@audiosurfarchive
@audiosurfarchive 4 года назад
School? RIP
@loganknox7
@loganknox7 4 года назад
School? We not talking about school
@NuttZach_AK
@NuttZach_AK Год назад
Penny was my favorite player growing up. The Magic by far my fav team. Shaq leaving for LA & Penny slowly dwindling from injuries & getting traded was so painful i stopped watching the NBA for a season.
@CzarsSalad
@CzarsSalad 4 года назад
Dude, this is why I love this channel. The way they tell sports stories is very thrilling. You can tell how much effort the staff gives on research, writing, and editing on every video. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
@coolbananas1803
@coolbananas1803 2 года назад
If Penny was in the right team, injury free, he would have made a lot of fan’s top 10 lists.
@jaychild78
@jaychild78 3 года назад
Awesome video!! I’m happy to have seen both Magic and Penny play in their primes!!!
@TheIncredible2IC
@TheIncredible2IC 4 года назад
4:24 Oh hey Shawn Bradley 7:01 Oh hey again Shawn Bradley
@SuperJd78
@SuperJd78 4 года назад
In the midst of a rabbit hole now and the farther down I go the better the video get. They're like documentaries from my childhood! Love then keep then coming please.
@chadybupp7214
@chadybupp7214 4 года назад
When does the Jordan-Kobe overlap come out?
@patrickpilkington6241
@patrickpilkington6241 2 года назад
SUCH A GREAT IDEA FOR A SERIES!!! YOU GUYS JUST STRUCK GOLD
@marcusgilmore5211
@marcusgilmore5211 3 года назад
Great video I was telling this kid at work about Penny Hardaway shoes good memories my childhood great. Basketball was great damn the 90s great R.I.P to 2Pac he was the first to have the Penny Hardaway shoes in his Toss it Up video....
@maxipedia
@maxipedia 4 года назад
Thank you!
@I_got_the_keys
@I_got_the_keys 2 года назад
I grew up watching Penny hardaway what a great player. If he didn't get injured he would have been a problem for Jordan and other teams.
@kmena05
@kmena05 3 года назад
Imagine the if Magic would've played 1 more season he could've played w rookie Kobe.
@ryandoubleu.
@ryandoubleu. 2 года назад
Little Penny was the best. I loved those commercials and they were everywhere when I was a 13-14 year old kid who dreamed of being the next Penny/Magic or Muggsy/Spudd depending on my growth spurt genes lotto ticket (cashed out a few years later, closer to Muggsy/Mom than Penny/Dad)
@vulee100
@vulee100 4 года назад
"Not only is he quick but he is fast too"
@bencomer2339
@bencomer2339 4 года назад
I would argue those are different, but yeah its pretty funny
@IEatPooPooForFun
@IEatPooPooForFun 4 года назад
Acceleration vs top speed
@CaptainFunk127
@CaptainFunk127 4 года назад
Quickness comes in things like direction changes and footwork, reaction time, etc. Speed is covering ground, moving up and down the court.
@bencomer2339
@bencomer2339 4 года назад
Mike Farron That’s what I was referring to too
@tehsamjones
@tehsamjones 10 месяцев назад
Incredible work as always guys
@nomiiakeroxiaza2192
@nomiiakeroxiaza2192 3 года назад
When the whole Secret Base thing came up, I was shocked to realize you guys have less than a million subs. SBNation always felt like a bigger presence in the media world. Keep up the great work. Your content is on a level of it's own.
@elivictorio
@elivictorio 4 года назад
1:32 Seth still loves the word “palpable”
@AllPureSkill
@AllPureSkill 4 года назад
Really well put together, same people but one is the starter, one is the 6th man
@bradwurst8141
@bradwurst8141 4 года назад
I heard Blue Chips, so I'm obligated to tell you that Matt Nover's gotta sniper from deep
@isaacallen2257
@isaacallen2257 4 года назад
Absolutely love your commitment to telling sports stories. I will be loyal follower of this channel forever!
@jflack6
@jflack6 4 года назад
Just think, one more year and Kobe would've been on the same team as Magic J. I remember hoping for that back in the day and I wasn't even a Laker fan.
@javirios3107
@javirios3107 3 года назад
Saddest what if for me about Kobe is what if he played Lebron in the finals. I still cannot believe how unfortunate we were.
@mickyb6729
@mickyb6729 4 года назад
why did the "love you" at the end make me cry
@bagnerestrada7271
@bagnerestrada7271 3 года назад
Lil' Penny was awesome and don't you forget it.
@stabf2635
@stabf2635 4 года назад
super pumped the people at SBNation realized how good their video guys were and basically gave them their own spinoff series.
@present2060
@present2060 4 года назад
Can u guys pls make a collapse on the 2000's phoenix suns
@NotForLongNFL
@NotForLongNFL 4 года назад
I'm loving the Secret Base rebrand
@nicholassmith6701
@nicholassmith6701 4 года назад
Cue my lil penny commercial RU-vid binge #90’skid
@1NonlyJOHN
@1NonlyJOHN 4 года назад
I love Magic Jordan!
@ericshepperd4823
@ericshepperd4823 4 года назад
This is fabulous, love the new series and can’t wait for more!
@Solar424
@Solar424 4 года назад
We need one of these for Richard Petty and Jeff Gordon. Two of the greatest NASCAR drivers of all time, and Petty's last race was Gordon's first.
@TheTonytone77
@TheTonytone77 7 месяцев назад
Good story bro ...my two favorite players magic and penny 😊
@luisdeja6235
@luisdeja6235 3 года назад
Beautiful vídeo!! Congratulations!!
@jakeleibowitz165
@jakeleibowitz165 4 года назад
I'm already digging the new music and animations
@elizahhoward3923
@elizahhoward3923 4 года назад
I cried twice
@davidsteinberg2120
@davidsteinberg2120 3 года назад
Dear God, Penny was just too f****** good man I miss those days
@mario98730
@mario98730 2 года назад
In a sea of great players who never won a ring, Penny is one of the greatest. He did it all and played his heart out, but luck didn’t swing his way.
@TheMrolio22
@TheMrolio22 4 года назад
Overlap: Alex Ovechkin and Sergei Fedorov
@MarkCzmic420
@MarkCzmic420 15 дней назад
Great video Thanks Brother
@toms.5932
@toms.5932 4 года назад
Just pick me and put me to work on research. I will make you guys proud. I've learned new things watching your channel, but most of it has explained things I already had knowledge of. That's why I'm obsessed with this channel
@bubbabaker6468
@bubbabaker6468 3 года назад
Penny could do it all my favorite player at the time ,if not for injury and no help he have rings and hall of Famer dude was cold
@conquistadorito
@conquistadorito 4 года назад
Please do a Collapse episode on the 2017 Jags, 2 years later Bortles, that entire defense and now Fournette are all gone.
@gourami7
@gourami7 3 года назад
So Bortles going was a bad thing ?
@conquistadorito
@conquistadorito 3 года назад
@@gourami7 No but it is notable
@gabrielortega9759
@gabrielortega9759 4 года назад
So looking forward to more content. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
@nickp8253
@nickp8253 4 года назад
“You know, not only is he quick, but he’s fast too.” - Magic Johnson
@MC-kj7dy
@MC-kj7dy 2 года назад
There is a difference jock sniffer, don’t be snarky when you’re not smart.
@dylanlee45alien
@dylanlee45alien 3 года назад
Man if magic played one more year. Kobe shaq and magic on one team would’ve been legendary. 3 top 10 players of all time. They probably wouldn’t have done much but it would’ve been cool
@jacksonm2073
@jacksonm2073 4 года назад
I like this. Thank you
@vic3xog
@vic3xog 3 года назад
this was great..i didn't remember the timelines of magic retiring for the last time & Shaq joining Lakers the next season..
@dongvermine
@dongvermine 4 года назад
This video has the French horns of history on it-proud to witness this new era
@amoryarado2293
@amoryarado2293 4 года назад
This was very good, fits so well.
@brandonblahnik1238
@brandonblahnik1238 4 года назад
the background music in the beginning makes this so eerie
@dodgerologist
@dodgerologist 4 года назад
Great video! I was going to suggest Griffey Sr. and Griffey Jr. or Griffey and Ichiro, but Dorktown already took care of that. Wait...Did it inspire the Overlap idea?
@ronque23
@ronque23 2 года назад
Of all the nba players I’ve watched, I feel Penny got robbed the most. And it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. He really deserved to have won and had a longer more productive career. But he had his shot. Most don’t even get that close. Respect to the brother.
@rhondacarrier9439
@rhondacarrier9439 4 года назад
You guys should do bluejays vs rangers ALDS game 5 That would be a good rewinder
@darianh.2048
@darianh.2048 4 года назад
They went back and added Secret Base to every thumbnail
@jaketheauroran
@jaketheauroran 4 года назад
**whispers** love you too
@aazonbrain
@aazonbrain 6 месяцев назад
Lol i commented years ago about Iceman and Jordan but I'm back (even though y'all are probably done w Overlap) to propose Maravich and Bird. Lots of narrative potential there: contrasts in upbringing, play style, personality and in *what* they worked on. Seem very similar in how intensely they worked on their crafts, tho one was geared towards winning and the other a more insular focus on coordination and ball handling. Idk. Hope this is at least food for thought!
@perSWade3
@perSWade3 4 года назад
Would love to see a Collapse episode on the 2015 KC Royals. That team fell apart so fast
@thedremexin8281
@thedremexin8281 4 года назад
Love this new series
@GateKeeper36
@GateKeeper36 4 года назад
The first time i watched basketball, Orlando was in the finals, I instantly fell in love with Penny.
@tiagocardoso5106
@tiagocardoso5106 4 года назад
Penny-Greatest rapper ever Magic-Greatest talkshow host ever Coincidence? I think not.
@ianhale7797
@ianhale7797 4 года назад
I want to do Sports Podcasts alot and you guys show its possible
@d0cn0tes
@d0cn0tes 3 года назад
I think Magic is the greatest player that ever played the game. I never saw Penny as a true point guard. There will only be one, true 6'9" point guard and his name is Earvin "Magic" Johnson. Great video
@UScarsarethebest
@UScarsarethebest 4 года назад
Excellent video!
@richitorres1able
@richitorres1able 4 года назад
I love this channel
@NealBones
@NealBones 4 года назад
The announcement video from a month ago and the Canadiens and Bruins beef videos still have SBNation on the thumbnail. I saw you guys changed the rest so I figured I'd point it out
@CRLKLL
@CRLKLL 3 года назад
Nice video. Thanx!!!
@namata305
@namata305 4 года назад
This is Dope!!!!!!! Guess we’ll see the Goat debate sometime in the future
@Thenameisboosta
@Thenameisboosta 4 года назад
Penny is the Greatest
@tehsamjones
@tehsamjones 3 года назад
Fantastic video
@KZ3fps
@KZ3fps 4 года назад
Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, and Detroit selecting Carmelo instead of Darko are some of my biggest NBA "What Ifs".
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