Magic Stud Finder! 🤫 Installing LED Downlights & Wireless Switch

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Magic Stud Finder! 🤫 Installing LED Downlights & Wireless Switch.
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@artisanelectrics 2 года назад

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@aardvarkinstalls 2 года назад

Another great video Jordan. I'm in the process of starting up my own channel for TV / AV installations and CCTV that i do. I'm just curious as to what camera and voice recording equipment you use for your videos as i dont want to have to use my iPhone for it all as I'm on it all day. Could you point me in the right direction of what you use please? Would really appreciate it.

@artisanelectrics 2 года назад

We have a great cameraman and editor now but when I started it was just me with my iPhone

@aardvarkinstalls 2 года назад

@@artisanelectrics oh really, crickey! OK mate cheers

@Atsaki13 4 года назад

A stack of 10 small neodymium magnets, disconnect 1 at each magnetic spot. You can then leave them on the ceiling for your stud centres and easy visual of what is where 👍🏻

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

Nice tip!

@plunder1956 4 года назад

I've seen this used and it is cool. The hold they have is amazing.

@clivepenny 4 года назад

And less than £! each mag!

@DerekHundik 4 года назад

Only when studs are metalic

@Atsaki13 4 года назад

@@DerekHundik Its more to find the plasterboard fixings, not the actual stud. I don't think I've ever come across a fixing that isn't magnetic.

@garethg2501 4 года назад

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but another tip for using hole saws is to start drilling forwards and finish off in reverse. Generally prolongs the life of the teeth and also less chance of cutting unseen cables etc

@criqdekuyper9259 4 года назад

Reverse all the way in drywall. More forgiving when starting the cut.

@chrischaralambous286 3 года назад

I've Just read this comment, what a great tip. Will give it a go next time I use a hole saw.👍

@Beringtom 4 года назад

I recommend getting a "Snake cam" it will help you with seeing inside cellings and walls with just a small hole

@plunder1956 4 года назад

Very useful ideas about feeding cables. KEEP plasterboard disks you cut out, to cover unwanted holes. Using a short length of batton fed into the hole, bridging it; secured with plasterboard screws at each end. Then screw and glue the loose disk to the batton. Once glue is set, screws can be removed. Just fill the holes and gaps with filler for a neat finish.

@stikndip 2 года назад

Done this. Works a treat.

@MrJSmithify 2 года назад

Great tip, thanks! Quick question - what are your options if the disc is too chewed up to reuse? How do you cover the unwanted holes without a disc?

@Paul_Holmes 2 года назад

@@MrJSmithify If I had any other plasterboard with old skim on it I'd cut a piece from that to fit, otherwise I would cut a disk from a fresh piece of plasterboard and then it would need just a thin skim of filler to come flush with the ceiling.

@MrJSmithify 2 года назад

👍Thanks @@Paul_Holmes!

@dexster747 4 года назад

Great vid as always! Never thougth about using that ring for gliding down another cable, I did lose miune as soon as I bougth a set though. Also, I havnt seen any sparks do this, but when I install pendents, if its a single boarded ceiling, i tend to fit one of those round drylining boxes. Cable stays in there so the mud flickers are happy, you get some room if you need to fish ect and its useful for when you need a stronger fixing and and the previous hole is just blown out or no stud/joost is near. Also does give you more slack when you change a pendent and some absolute **** has cute the cpcs and or left zero slack!

@wyndavies5044 4 года назад

You need to buy a ferret jordan, another life saver tool 😄

@hoojchoons2258 3 года назад

Couple of tips, when finding the joists use small bits of PVC tape to mark along the ceiling so you get a good picture of what's what. When fishing blind in holes stick your mobile phone up there like a periscope and take plenty of pictures, normally makes things much clearer! This only works with older mobiles, NOT the huge bricks with massive screens as seen today!!

@topgazza 3 года назад

The clearest explanation of electrical work on You Tube without the rancour and bitterness of many. Just straightforward intelligent and helpful techniques and processes. Thank you

@giggles8966 4 года назад

With that rod attachment instead of the split ring you could maybe get a small Bow shackle or karibiner that would save fighting the ring ...

@petermcgreevy6386 4 года назад

Wedding ring helped me out one day, I was desperate.....

@yourrightimsooosorry884 3 года назад

@@petermcgreevy6386 we're talking about electrical installations, we don't want to hear about your wedding day!

@sk83rboy00 4 года назад

Drill a pilot hole before cutting your downlight. Use a metal coat hanger and bend to the diameter of the holesaw. Shove that up the pilot hole and rotate the coat hanger 360 degrees. This will check if there are any joists in the way, less making good on a 6mm pilot than a 70mm hole 😁👍⚡️

@tommochelsea72 4 года назад

Wow would never of thought of using that rod attachment to pull through like that. Great tip for the future there. I’m going to purchase the strong magnet too 👍🏻

@stephencoulthard1718 4 года назад

Can always fit a smoke alarm as joint and hole cover up were pendent was. Also quietic do a switch with built in receiver.

@AndyK.1 4 года назад

For an extra £20 you didn’t fit them a ‘2 way’ switch by the kitchen Door for spots

@nickhuk18 4 года назад

Bet you're glad the last guy didn't clip the 10mm bond

@stevethomas5849 4 года назад

Nick, just what I was thinking obviously not clipped.

@MarkMaginty 3 года назад

this is what I cannot believe, that the cable is not clipped!

@TheChipmunk2008 4 года назад

We always install the receivers above a downlight... even if the receiver is for pendants... if there's a downlight... we use it. Lets the customer access the receiver in future really easily :) Edit: I see you did that :)... and wow at the 'follow the 10mm earth' trick. Noted, and filed for future use :")

@RJSElectricalCheshire 4 года назад

Nice job Jordan. I love the Quinetic stuff. I also now know what that keyring attachment is for 👍👍

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

Awesome! Thank you!

@yourrightimsooosorry884 3 года назад

I had a magic stud finder, now I'm waiting for someone to invent a magic stud finder finder!

@yourrightimsooosorry884 3 года назад

Found it! Never guess where it was! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dQw4w9WgXcQ.html

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

😂

@Cablesmith 4 года назад

Great fishing 👌🏼 2nd best spark I’ve seen tbh 😉 always a top job Jordan

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

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@killerkhan 3 года назад

Fantastic, I actually followed exactly what you did, I understood everything. College came in handy

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Awesome

@killerkhan 3 года назад

@@artisanelectrics you are no 1 keep up the great work

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks very much

@SimplyElectronicsOfficial Год назад

I put 10 downlight in my living room cieling. All self-install. Routing the Cables under all the joists was a NIGHTMARE! They were solid joists with no holes at all. The only way was to drill holes along each joist to pass the cable underneath each joist. what a pain! but it looks amazing so was worth it.

@shirish2420 4 года назад

Endoscope camera taped onto the end of the rod will find whats lurking in the ceiling. Cameras are about £10 on ebay and can view on your smartphone.

@robinfisher4376 4 года назад

Them cable tongues are brilliant that is a sparky’s go to here in Australia 👍🏻

@doub4279 4 года назад

Why didn't you put the receivers in the hole closest to the wall switch? These energy harvesting devices need all the help they can get.

@AndyK.1 4 года назад

I was thinking that. And the first place an electrician would look for the magic device WHEN it Fails. All that magic rodding and he couldn’t put one up by the switch 😂

@serenetysteel7007 4 года назад

Been using the Studbuddy for about two years, Fantastic bit of kit! Also i have to admit, I am very impressed with the split ring over the 10mm earth cable trick.. Bravo sir!

@stevethomas5849 4 года назад

Your stud buddy has reminded me I got one and today I could of used it. Struggling to find joists to avoid in order to wire up smoke alarms. Dementia is definitely on its way.

@Froggability 3 года назад

Heck I always plunge in my 3mm /200mm screwdriver, explore for obstacles, on each hole ; before the holesaws go clean through. A tiny missplaced hole can be hidden with a tiny dab of plaster. Also is good for young guys the learn how to divide the room up : quarter/ half / quarter. Not third third third

@chrischaralambous286 3 года назад

This is the first video I have watched by you Jordan. I am not a qualified electrician, but am planning on training to become one. I do have some electrical knowledge and have done some minor jobs. I found this video very interesting and would like to comment on how impressed I was with the approach in which you carried out this job. You respectfully covered the customers furniture/belongings and floor and methodically worked out how and where you were going to feed your cables though the ceiling with minimal damage. I have been in a similar situation where I needed to route some speaker cable through a ceiling and what I did to figure out where the beams were and the situation above the ceiling was to take one of the downlighters out and poke my mobile phone through the hole whilst in record mode and the flash on, whilst moving it around. I could then playback the footage. I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to watching more of your videos. 👍👌

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks for subscribing! Glad you enjoyed the video!

@Greenbank6 4 года назад

Scandalous that a new build should only have one pendant light for a room of that size. Typical of the shoddy value in Britain today!

@boblewis5558 4 года назад

@John Morrison ... Bloody bean counters EVERYWHERE! ONE DAY these bozos will get properly put back in their boxes ... SELL the value and quality not cut the cost if you want more profit! Short sighted idiots who likely wear dark glasses at night 'cos they think they're the biz! 😱😱😱

@chrisgraham2904 2 года назад

If the room is intended to be a combination living room and dinning room, there is often only one pendant light over the dinning room table and the living room area is intended to be lit by table lamps. Very common in North America.

@grafnemilligun9183 4 года назад

Is there an alternative switch that takes live and neutral? The life time of those switches claims to be massive but as you had neutral at the switch wouldnt it be better take take a mains powered wireless switch?

@VaporheadATC 3 года назад

Wished they allowed these "maintenance free" j-boxes here in the States.

@tww5719 4 года назад

Do you now if you have to reset the receivers if you lose the power for any reason, definitely hobnobs ideal for dunking .

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

No they keep their memory if power goes off. Welcome to the hobnob club!

@lewis94uk 4 года назад

Good video Jordan, you managed to fish those cables round with minimal damage, out of interest on these types of jobs do you let the customer know that there potentially might be many holes that need filling if it was to go pete tong and you needed lots of access holes?

@boblewis5558 4 года назад

@Lewis Miller Multiple holes is a PITA but easily resolved on a flat, painted ceiling BUT on a papered and ESPECIALLY if Artex or worse ... Anaglypta ... Painted Anaglypta, in a faded colour, no longer available! Add a fortnight to the job! And if it's a black lime mortar on lath ceiling that's 80 plus years old ... Walk away ... No, sorry, RUN!

@ianpies2498 3 года назад

Bob Lewis m

@user-pf5xq3lq8i 3 года назад

@@boblewis5558 If i have artex i want skimmed anyway, should i do holes and wiring first or the skimming first? Or no difference?

@boblewis5558 3 года назад

@@user-pf5xq3lq8i it depends! If the ceiling is lath & plaster, with Artex on top and then skimmed on top of that (??) it's probably MUCH BETTER albeit VERY messy, especially with black lime mortar (been there, done that!) to have a complete new plasterboard ceiling. It will also give you unfettered access to the joists etc. Then cut the holes and skim or if you have the grid reference to the holes, skim, then cut the holes. Otherwise, if Artex is on top (underneath) of a modern gypsum board ceiling it probably makes little difference. Personally whenever I've cut holes, I've always done it after the skim. One thing to note though is how big the holes are going to be. You need to be able to get your hand through, or at least have your wiring VERY close to the hole to reach it and pull it through - always a problem I've found with 55-60mm holes!

@user-pf5xq3lq8i 3 года назад

@@boblewis5558 Top man, cheers!

@danthealien8360 3 года назад

Great video mate. I'm not an electrician so excuse the basic question but why did you go under that wooden joist and not through it? I thought that was against the regs? Currently in the process of swapping an old pendant for led downlights and need a way of getting through/round the joist (I dont have access from above).

@johncorbett1130 2 года назад

I think that was chipboard he said where he put the conduit, but above the chipboard was a RSJ So he could cut through that!

@JoaoRyanPlim 2 года назад

Thank you for the video. I have a question for you: What do you do when there's no space over the stood and no space between the stud and the plasterboard? I would like to know the best way to avoid cutting the ceiling when it's not possible to pass the cable over the stud.

@michaelperry3378 4 года назад

Invest in an inspection camera , an absolute life saver. perfect for downlight installs. £59 squid from screwfix

@mattsidebottom7603 3 года назад

25 off amazon for a wifi one. Roger reviewed it on skill builder good bit of kit. Just done my down lights with it

@joeypriestman6783 4 года назад

Why didn’t you use the MK Grid plate and MK style Quintetic modules to fit? Looks like a proper switch rather than those huge monsters.

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

Yeah could have done I guess

@anthonybragg 4 года назад

@@artisanelectrics Got to agree I prefer the standard looking switch the others look out of place. Could you not have pulled the feed to the old pendant back to one of the downlights so as not to have to join the existing cable?

@Two_Wheel_Trips 3 года назад

Do you not carry 2 core flex and wago lite boxes in the van? Make you life a lot easier when connection up this type of stuff rather that shoehorning those 1.5's in that small enclosure.

@markcummings150 4 года назад

I’ve used several small neodymium magnets to find the nails/screws in my ceiling, but one problem I ran into was that the spacing was almost the same as the truss spacing and also forming a square pattern. Only after finding a lot of nails I was eventually able to pick the straighter line and therefore the truss location.

@PartyaadJamaica 4 года назад

nice video but your audio is always low can you fix that in the next up coming video

@arsenalh8manu 3 года назад

Thank god it was a new cable and not clipped in. Any old cable in the roof pre 1975 would have been clipped and nailed to the joists (In australia anyway)

@MagnetechSolidSolutions 2 года назад

Its really odd but from the camera perspective you can actually see the metel stud ribs in the ceiling exactly where your stud finder falls. Exactly where the screws pull the board in tight. And as an added extra... can you pick your nose????🤣🤣🤣I dunno, maybe its allowed for you RU-vidrs lol, we let you away with it this time😆😆😆 🤣🤣🤣

@satsumo 2 года назад

Quick question...I've done exactly as you've shown in this video, but when a qualified electrician saw my work he stated that I should not have cables going across and below the joists; instead, apparently, I need to drill holes in the joists (at least 50mm in) and feed cable through there. Is that strictly true and am I breaking some law?

@Jordan-yc3fs 4 года назад

Beeeautiful bit of fishing. I really wish manufacturers would give you a cpc connection saves idiots forgetting to join it through.

@whydoihavetoify 2 года назад

I never watched the whole video as at 3 minutes plus you started telling people about your coffee and wanted comments on people's biscuit choices and talking about what you are about to do (twice) rather than getting on with it is just infuriating plus I am not sure if asking for subscribers before they have seen your content is helping much. I mean no disrespect and I'm sure your videos are very informative and helpful and maybe it's just me being impatient, but just some insight as why some people don't subscribe. but god luck with your channel

@pileji 3 года назад

not to be mean, but why has no one thought of putting tubes in the ceiling for your cables? No fishing for anything just put new cables in that's it, for replacement even easier..... idk what it is with Americans, like english electricians that they don't think future orientated just thinking in the moment......

@Ned47628 4 года назад

I'm trying to work out what would have happened if David Savery had made a video about a wood finding device called the studbudy. It might have been the episode where he introduces Mrs Savery.

@davidtaylor4975 4 года назад

He also might have mentioned f isting if he was up to his elbow in a ceiling!

@spartt4360 3 года назад

Painters are so good that you usually don't need any tool to find joists, they are just visible 😀

@adejupe8308 4 года назад

It amazes me how often I find t&e running between double-insulated fixtures with the CPC continuity not intact. Laziness? DIY?

@TheChipmunk2008 4 года назад

failure to understand that it's a CIRCUIT protective conductor, not just an equipment protective conductor. Indeed I believe that's part of the drive to rename it.

@boblewis5558 4 года назад

@@TheChipmunk2008 if there is ONLY plastic or NOTHING to connect to (typical on double insulated stuff) it's understandable why installers (pro or DIY) might just think "f*** it What can I do? I'll just cut it!" Manufacturers of electrical goods take zero blame but are 100% the problem ... Just fit an earth terminal as a CPC anchor point you bozos! Cost, what, 10p at manufacturing volume cost OR less!?? Bloody bean counters YET AGAIN!

@dannybarker3943 4 года назад

I have them super rods and never thought of using the keyring attachment for that. I was never one for reading instructions anyway. Great video by the way.

@robinmyman 4 года назад

Tricks of the trade...those difficult cable runs...brilliant! 👍

@phoenixdundee 3 года назад

Probably said elsewhere, but these joist and called eco-joists. Great for getting cables through, but sharp edges on the metal. And never use a sharpie on plasterboard as it bleeds through the paint after ...

@imazeu2 3 года назад

Jordan, you can also use the hole cutter running in reverse, it will still cut but if there is wiring above then it wont damage it.

@stet6059 2 года назад

Under BS7671 can you run cables within the plasterboard area? I'm not sure you can.

@SSJIndy 2 года назад

I get a wad of plastic grocrey bags, stuff them into another bag and use that as a plug when I cut out the ceiling light holes. Keeps blown insulation from falling down into the room!

@djony10 3 года назад

Get yourself a Bosch green light laser buddy, they are 99 bucks now, will save you tons of time and mistakes measuring

@kevinnanabeningandoh9408 3 года назад

Wow nice work I electrician in west africa ghana I will need some of the down light, switch and the rod u used Please let know the prices Thanks Kevin

@howfull 2 года назад

Thank you for a great video.. Do you have a video for fitting a ceiling fan - that's my next project.

@andrewgibbs5096 2 года назад

Could you not salvage a disk of plasterboard from one of the new down lights as a repair to the ceiling where you exposed the joist?

@jockinafrock 2 года назад

I bought a magic stud finder, but as soon as I opened the box, it started alarming, and hasn't stopped since....

@alwoolhouse6255 2 года назад

Pica pencils, so good. Until you’ve used it for a while. The grips stop gripping the leads.

@leeedwards3783 3 года назад

Nice video. Thanks for sharing. Never seen switches like this before. Going to have a look at them.

@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 4 года назад

Jordan i seen a guy put string in the ceiling in a similar situation you had with that 10 mm earth but he then hoovered it in while it was connected to his lighting cable it worked like a dream to be fare 🤣👍

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

Nice!

@raymondteo2611 2 года назад

Oh my God I thought President Clinton is talking to me but you do look like President Clinton good luck sir

@SteveWilson-eu5zy 4 года назад

We call them eco joists really nice to work with on a new build as it makes life so simple getting cables round a building

@gagamouth 4 года назад

watched some good amount of videos, how the fuck you can do this? im a elecrit from finland, so dirty shit man

@brianjarvis272 4 года назад

Jordan, If you used you camera attachment for your phone that you showed in the scout hut video, you could tape it to your rods and see what is in the way,

@marcusshipley3935 4 года назад

Good shout. Also I've been known to put my phone camera on video with the flash lit and raise it up into the downlight hole and rotate left and right to gain panorama of whats above the ceiling.

@zett121 4 года назад

pro tip you can put your phone thru the hole and put on the camera with the flashlight on and you can see on the screen where everything is

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

My phone doesn't fit in the holes!

@niceguy235uk1 4 года назад

Why is this garbage back on my recommended list. Ive already binned it once ffs

@Two_Wheel_Trips 3 года назад

Pretty pointless wasting money on those receivers when the ceiling is going to be painted following the 2 big holes left anyway may as well fill another 1 or 2 and save a hundred quid IMO. Fair enough if there was no damage at all.

@alexgiddings8171 4 года назад

I have all the tools I need to do this job... feel watching the video I can do this one and add to my list of completed electrical projects.

@jamiethompson4549 4 года назад

Chocolate hobnob or chocolate digestive not bothered which. But I prefer cakes :) especially cheesecake

@artisanelectrics 4 года назад

Fair enough!

@Hammy135 4 года назад

Should definitely go slow with those holesaws. I’ve watched a heavy handed person go straight through and nick a plastic water pipe above. Love that studbuddy btw 👍🏼

@Jh-kc2qp Год назад

How much did you charge for the job please

@TheTraditionalGolfer 4 года назад

Eco joist is what there called mate 👍

@williamtaylor8695 3 года назад

Absolutely brilliant video. Very informative, I learnt a lot from it....Well done Jordan.

@edknight1982 3 года назад

They do inline switches so the receiver is built into the switch might not have been Round when you did this

@chowdhury57 4 года назад

Why not stick a phone with the camera and torch on. Might be able to get a better view. Just a thought.

@stevegarden9940 3 года назад

how are you going to see the phone screen, when it's up through the hole in the ceiling. 🤔 Also try and put your camera on and your touch at the same time, it doesn't come on torch goes off. 😅😅😅

@ratsalive 3 года назад

Just ordered a stud buddy! Ace looking gizmo.

@keithnewton8981 4 года назад

Have you had a spray tan some what orange face

@peterprice8393 4 года назад

G Just a good job it was not clipped or cable tied🤔

@derekgoodwin6646 3 года назад

🙄🙄

@marceloavalos2333 4 года назад

Excelent work, amazing tools. Congratulations!

@carltonrangemeister9610 2 года назад

DID JORDAN JUST SAY YOU DO GET 'BLACK ONES' THAT ARE REALLY THICK? :O

@PabloTBrave 3 года назад

The Aldi fake chocolate hobnobs are brilliant even better than the real.thing

@xandermcgregor8865 3 года назад

The installation is non-compliant - 522.6.201

@TWOKDOK1 3 года назад

Don’t the Dow lighters. Need to be fire rated for that type of installation?

@tonystewart6592 3 года назад

Big Question..are you one of the seeds of Peirs Morgan? LOl

@thelightandpowershop 2 года назад

Stick ya pencil in boiling water - sorts it out no problem...

@mjdavidson7185 4 года назад

Nice job Jordan, some great fishing techniques going on there 🎣 oh and deffo a biscoff biscuit!

@alexmclaren7823 3 года назад

20 pound! I paid 10 for the set of three! 🤣

@krishenshall8330 3 года назад

Great video and I can relate to the pain of fishing through joists etc. One point I did notice was a lack of sufficient protection to the cable installed below the joist. Reg 522.6.201 is applicable here no?

@chrisgraham2904 2 года назад

I've never heard of, or seen 'oval conduit' in North America and I don't think that's an acceptable means of bypassing a ceiling joist, nor would it pass code. Does passing electrical wiring through a steel joist not require a plastic grommet installed in the joist hole? What is a 'maintenance free junction box'? All junction boxes must remain accessible for maintenance.

@johncorbett1130 2 года назад

Chris, pretty sure he didn't pass through a steel joist he was just going over small metal ceiling support struts and then going under a rolled steel joist.which is a bit dodgy.