'Mahler: Symphony No. 9 on Period Instruments' by Mahler Academy Orchestra & Philipp von Steinaecker

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This recording of Mahler’s Ninth Symphony is an event, because it was made with period instruments of the kind the composer used in Vienna. The Mahler Academy Orchestra set itself the task of reconstructing this instrumentarium and researching how musicians of the time played it: ‘We were struck during our rehearsals by the incredibly distinctive characterisation of the woodwinds, the shattering blare of the brass, the perfect balance between the instruments, and the pure and warm sound of the strings. . . They took Mahler’s brilliant orchestration to yet another level’, says Philipp Von Steinaecker, artistic director of this ambitious ‘Originalklang’ (original sound) project and conductor of this orchestra, which brings some fifty young musicians into contact with the finest instrumentalists from the world’s leading formations (Amsterdam Concertgebouw, Mahler Chamber Orchestra, Budapest Festival Orchestra, Staatskapelle Dresden, Wiener Symphoniker etc.). Together they made this historic recording in Dobbiaco-Toblach in Italy, where Mahler composed his monumental symphony in 1909, two years before his death.
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@thomasvendetti3742 3 месяца назад

Listen to the 1938 Bruno Walter / Vienna Phil live recording of the Mahler 9. Listen to the solos of Arnold Rose(Mahler’s brother-in-law). Here you will hear the closest and most reliable Mahler sound. Vibrato was definitely employed. Such experiment though interesting are not definitive.

@bruhbruh2128 3 месяца назад

But it is also true that Arnold didn't like vibrato in general, throughout his WP term.

@dfdhgtrss212 3 месяца назад

sounds great

@MarshallArtz007 3 месяца назад

🙉

@HST3B 3 месяца назад

Great to see Marinus Komst, former Concertgebouw timpanist.

@BetonBrutContemporary 3 месяца назад

I always wanted this kind of project! Cool and good... kind of reminds me of Norrington

@michaelmorse7627 3 месяца назад

Except these folks seem to like music..

@porcinet1968 18 дней назад

yeah that's probably the first thing that came to my mind as well - i didn't like that one either but interesting to hear, one learns something about a work even in a performance one doesn't like

@porcinet1968 3 месяца назад

the string playing is really strange but rather interesting - Mahler writes clear requests for portamentos a great deal in this score but these players are applying portamenti almost everywhere, even the opening major 2nd F#-E is a slide!

@remifasolla5324 18 дней назад

historical recordings of Mahler, such as Mengelberg's in 1929, uses even more unwritten portamento lol

@porcinet1968 18 дней назад

@@remifasolla5324 in my copy of the score I have added portamento lines where I would add them if I was directing the piece and of course there are always places where it is natural because of position shifts and the like (from what I know of string technique)

@porcinet1968 18 дней назад

@@remifasolla5324 my problem i guess isn't with the idea itself but with the effectiveness of the result sometimes with these kinds of "experimental" performances - I am a huge HIP fan, love the Gardiner Missa Solemnis to bits, still think it's one of the best records ever made, but his work (LOL at praising Jeggers now he's basically disgraced) always sounded musical rather than the testing out of an idea. The Norrington Mahler 9 just doesn't work on me at any level for instance but that "Les Siecles" Rite of Spring and the Aurora Orchestra's work is extremely involving. This performance to me just sounds surface level, given the gravity of what the music openly puts forward, almost in all caps to my ear and mind.

3 месяца назад

I wonder what it REALLY sounded like back then?? Older acoustics, stylistic differences, playing/performing techniques, etc

@reamartin6458 3 месяца назад

It’s not a big mystery, it sounded like the turn of the century music that you can find on radio snippets it sounded like Fritz Kreisler and Jascha Heifetz, wildly expressive and with zero concern for period music performance practices.

@HenrySosenite 3 месяца назад

Not only is this the best Mahler 9 I've heard, but you ruined Dave Hurwitz's day when he heard it. You're doing God's work

@MaxPower-grrl 3 месяца назад

Lol! 😘

@savis0 2 месяца назад

Out of curiosity, what criteria are you using to be able to say this is the best recording you've heard?

@hectorberlioz1449 2 месяца назад

I do not agree often with Hurwitz , but this time he was completely right !

@MaxPower-grrl 2 месяца назад

@@hectorberlioz1449 lol

@MaxPower-grrl 2 месяца назад

@@hectorberlioz1449 mm... huh

@bruhbruh2128 3 месяца назад

I believe this project is very nice and attracting. Nowdays, finally, many musicians can play period instruments without large mistakes during a live performance (in other words, can give a studio-level performance). The usage of vibrato and other techniques are able to be 'reverted'. There is nothing cooler than listening to perfectly controled string tone in the live performance. And I also believe that it has been presented many times around Europe these days.

@michaelmorse7627 3 месяца назад

Why does "period instruments" always have to mean "as denatured as possible"? Our forebears had feelings, you know; some of them even had fun sometimes..

@corgansow6173 3 месяца назад

Some people really thinks they interpret the composer better than other musicians

@tomdownes1g 3 месяца назад

This comment is not clear.

@arthurfunk3104 Месяц назад

6:59 Why do the timpani have clear plastic heads?

@김현식-q4g 3 месяца назад

wonderful i ve waited for a mahler like this

@MarshallArtz007 3 месяца назад

The Mahler 9th recording no one asked for. 😎🎹

@dfdhgtrss212 3 месяца назад

speak for yourself bro

@davidalderson4980 2 месяца назад

Yup

@vittoriostoraro 2 месяца назад

@@dfdhgtrss212 No he's speaking as someone who loves Mahler and knows his intentions. This is garbage, unbearable, a travesty, an insult to Mahler and his music. A 20th century work on period instruments. Give me a f*cking break. Anyone who praises this does not love or understand Mahler. If only Bruno Walter, who knew Mahler were alive to call this what it is: Excrement.

@reamartin6458 3 месяца назад

Why?

@tomdownes1g 3 месяца назад

Mahler is the best

@reamartin6458 3 месяца назад

Hahah that’s funny. No I’m sorry Mahler is definitely not the best… you know that 😂

@dfdhgtrss212 3 месяца назад

@@reamartin6458speak for yourself bro.

@Ennah08 3 месяца назад

Out of interest and curiosity!

@DanielKRui 3 месяца назад

Quite cool. I wonder what say Rachmaninoff's 2nd symphony would sound like on these instruments. Maybe a little more transparent, compared to the thicker sounds of today.

@hectorberlioz1449 2 месяца назад

Go back to the Philadelphia Orchestra recordings under Rachmaninoff himself!

@DanielKRui 2 месяца назад

@@hectorberlioz1449 sadly he only recorded his 3rd symphony. I wish I could hear him conduct his others!

@theophicen7850 3 месяца назад

Just following the hype of 'authenticity' to sell and make a name. This performance is one big LIE.

@michaelmorse7627 3 месяца назад

Not *entirely*. They are playing some things GM notated that no one else plays, not even Walter..

@Delius1958 3 месяца назад

Original instruments usually sound warm (as on old recordings with the Collegium Aureum). These here sound shrill to my ears.

@johannesortmann2789 3 месяца назад

Maybe in a few years, after practicing a lot on this very special instruments…

@bruhbruh2128 3 месяца назад

already there are a few.

@themajor2072 3 месяца назад

Ludicrous. Instruments are far less important than the people that play them. This project is so small-minded in it’s mission; it’s prioritizing a gimmick over the music and the creative interpretation. Mahler said it himself: Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. Edit: As a side note, everything Clive Brown says from 4:48 to 5:10 is complete nonsense. We know how this work was interpreted at its premiere; we have multiple recordings made by Bruno Walter, the man who premiered the 9th. You can’t argue that modern orchestras don’t understand how it was done at the premiere when we have recordings straight from the horse’s mouth. Also, the idea of every single player in an orchestra interpreting their sound differently being presented as a positive really speaks to how ignorant Clive Brown is about how an orchestra actually works. There’s a reason why string players carefully coordinate how they move their bows as a section, or why brass players are taught to listen and blend their tone. Finally, the notion that a pickup orchestra, comprising as many students as professionals, would at all be an authentic representation of how an orchestra like the Vienna State Opera or the Vienna Philharmonic really sounded is patently absurd.

@reamartin6458 3 месяца назад

Can’t imagine they found money for this type of project, please feed the homeless do something better than this

@corgansow6173 3 месяца назад

Might as well disband all symphony orchestras because they're a waste of money

@reamartin6458 3 месяца назад

Ok 👍

@tomdownes1g 3 месяца назад

Mahler's music is art. Respect our devotion.

@reamartin6458 3 месяца назад

Mahler is well written trash

@hectorberlioz1449 2 месяца назад

Terrible sounding recording under a mediocre conductor. Listen to Mengelberg or Bruno Walter. Vibrato is obliged and required. Listen f.i. to Mengelberg's 1928 rec of ein Heldenleben with the NYPO or his 1926 rec of the Adagietto with the Concertgebouw. Lots of vibrato and slights in the strings. I listened to this cd and this has nothing to do with Mahler or whatever. It sounds more like a barock interpretation of something coming near a Mahler performance , with an orchestra with no Mahler performing tradition at all. Sorry for the negativity.