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MAINSTREAM METAL vs. UNDERGROUND METAL ft. Ethan Lee McCarthy of Primitive Man | LAST WORDS 

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@ThePit
@ThePit 4 года назад
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@lionaudio
@lionaudio 4 года назад
"It's BEEN soft". FACTS
@gurt666
@gurt666 4 года назад
Ethan is a great guest. Primitive man rules!
@ZakkiLowe
@ZakkiLowe 2 года назад
You can tell Ethan is 100% used to having people tell him that his music is too extreme for their sensitive little ears. Haha. Love it. Edit: I gotta back Ethan on every single point. I've chosen my side. 😂
@marionfalco
@marionfalco 4 года назад
Ethan was making solid points. There’s a huge amount of bands that are staying consistently heavy like Lamb of God, Hatebreed, Incendiary, etc. and that’s not even touching black and doom metal. Cannibal Corpse is probably bigger than Behemoth honestly, and they’ve been pretty consistent
@frankreynolds6831
@frankreynolds6831 7 месяцев назад
LOG Last couple albums have been very Commercially.
@themzbonez14
@themzbonez14 Год назад
I can totally relate to Ethan’s perspective. I was never really a fan of the classic metal bands like Priest or Iron Maiden not even slayer really, I was always attracted to the bands that pushed the negative vibe to the limits. Anything upbeat ruins it
@jameslong4362
@jameslong4362 3 года назад
I'm with Ethan on his opinion on Slipknot. Nothing wrong with what they do but not for me.
@myhedhz
@myhedhz Год назад
Ethan is so based. This is like a repeat of every conversation I have with other metal fans. If it sounds good, I don't like it. If it sounds like there's something wrong, it's probably pretty decent.
@tHeWrAtHoFtHeWoLf
@tHeWrAtHoFtHeWoLf 7 месяцев назад
Dude. Yes. Make Analepsy Not Scare My Friends Away Again
@thefrog5015
@thefrog5015 Год назад
I'm pretty sure there are acoustic guitars and soft, sing-songy vocal ballads on Slipknot's 3rd album. Their first two albums where consecutively heavy as fuck, but in my opinion they dropped the ball on that 3rd album and were never able to recover their original aggression level.
@Primal-Dude
@Primal-Dude Год назад
couldn't agree more, they sold the fuck out on that record
@jessekellerthecollectingne5058
@jessekellerthecollectingne5058 4 года назад
I have to agree with Ethan, it's not the fact that they become big, it's the method of how a band goes from underground to majorly popular is what causes the hate, some bands bounce back from it and bring back the sound we like (Metallica, priest, sabbath) while other bands not so much.
@tHeWrAtHoFtHeWoLf
@tHeWrAtHoFtHeWoLf 7 месяцев назад
I would even argue that when a band like Metallica "goes back to their roots", it's nowhere near as punishing as their earlier stuff. Like let's be real. Their latest stuff doesn't hold a candle to Master of Puppets. It just doesn't. So I almost resent the notion that they're "just as heavy". They're older, they still want to stay mainstream and make money. So that edge and that brutality is basically gone. It's too refined, too filtered, too mixed. No one is picking up their latest stuff and burning a hole through the proverbial CD like they are for Ride the Lightning. It's just not happening. The classics are classic for a reason!
@Straightedge63
@Straightedge63 4 года назад
13.15 KATY 100% agree! bring up the new bands so that they get attention!
@katyirizarry232
@katyirizarry232 4 года назад
Yes!! Thank you!!!
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 Год назад
9:20 "IT'S BEEN SOFT" hahahaha his response made me laugh. Although I disagree he seems to be a cool dude
@jessekellerthecollectingne5058
@jessekellerthecollectingne5058 4 года назад
And I honestly think don coyle is making weak arguments.
@ceevishus4130
@ceevishus4130 Год назад
Ethan is the man!! He is the Primitive Man.
@samuelhughes6514
@samuelhughes6514 Год назад
Don really just tried to argue Slipknot being extreme to the frontman of Primitive Man
@Lilah-Violet
@Lilah-Violet 6 месяцев назад
Every time he opened his mouth I couldn't help but roll my eyes, absolute shit takes. 🥴 He really should have stayed in his lane instead of bringing up such weak bands
@apothecurio
@apothecurio 2 месяца назад
Their first record they took a bit of grind and metalcore into respective electronic and melodic places with the frenzied DnB beats and Corey’s clean singing.
@EliPorterMahn
@EliPorterMahn Год назад
I feel like im right in the middle between Doc and Ethan's stance since I like the nastier stuff and the DIY work ethic of the of what people would consider "genuine" metal but also like alot of "polished" more well known bands that test the waters of melody and cleans. At the end of the day just enjoy what you enjoy
@garrettboomerbender
@garrettboomerbender 2 года назад
Extreme stadium band: Knocked Loose
@nate_k9277
@nate_k9277 Год назад
I totally agree. They’re getting huge and they’ve almost gotten heavier. More polished but far more violent and heavy
@tHeWrAtHoFtHeWoLf
@tHeWrAtHoFtHeWoLf Год назад
Agreed. Seeing the new kids who aren't even necessarily metalheads starting mosh pits at Coachella or whatever the fuck give me hope. Seeing Knocked Loose and bands like them headlining at your Coachellas, Lollapaloozas, etc is fucking nuts to me but I bear witness to this new wave.
@jaysonwitting4671
@jaysonwitting4671 4 года назад
It’s not about how many people like it, but the artists and music itself
@zebadiahwitch
@zebadiahwitch 2 года назад
the maiden fan doesn’t seem to understand the core of what’s being discussed also, PM is what brought me here. Ethan pummels all.
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 Год назад
Oh shit Lee McCarthy is in Vermin Womb too? Love that band
@aldoloud24
@aldoloud24 4 года назад
Katy for the win!!!! She’s the best 🤘🏽🤘🤘🏿❤️
@katyirizarry232
@katyirizarry232 4 года назад
Thank you so much!
@jessemeredith9169
@jessemeredith9169 Год назад
Why is it that people that are the most clueless or boring have the most to say? I'm talking about Elm st shirt guy
@bigjpsmuse31
@bigjpsmuse31 10 месяцев назад
Im with ethan on almost everything. Slayer and slipshit shouldnt be in the same sentance.
@Rog311
@Rog311 4 года назад
On the Lamb of God comment about staying hard throughout, Randy is putting out clean vocals now on the last two albums. Isn't that "mainstream singing"?
@biblicaladrian6007
@biblicaladrian6007 4 года назад
So if a band sings with clean its mainstream?
@JFK90
@JFK90 2 года назад
Lol, Coyle has such a different approach on 'metal' than Ethan. I definetly go with Ethan. 90% of 'metal' is crap.
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 Год назад
12:45 absolute gold
@richardgamrat1944
@richardgamrat1944 Год назад
So funny to see fellow armwrestling fans here and not in Engins live chat for once haha.
@LiquidSun62
@LiquidSun62 2 года назад
Why is the guitarist of bad wolves even in there? No wonder he hates that shit.
@frankreynolds6831
@frankreynolds6831 7 месяцев назад
Ive had this conversation with and people who dont get it argue like the dude from God Forbid. I think its time to start calling it for what it is. "Selling out"
@DemitriSwan
@DemitriSwan 25 дней назад
Interesting conversation but I have to agree with Ethan 💯. And, I say this while also liking records like Girl With Fish by Feeble Little Horse.
@notmyname9261
@notmyname9261 6 месяцев назад
I get where Ethan is coming from and I don't think we NEED BMTH and Slipknot to get people into that stuff, but in the age of the Internet it is absolutely is the way a lot of people my generation got into the extreme. That's just the way of it.
@themzbonez14
@themzbonez14 Год назад
I cringed so fucking hard when don referenced Parkway Drive as being a truly heavy band
@caseyrauch9151
@caseyrauch9151 4 года назад
Division is great. It allows things to grow outside of one another. Then you have a lot of different awesome things to dive into and take years of your life from you hahahaha :)
@tiadiad
@tiadiad 5 месяцев назад
Look up Anklepants and Prurient. Now that's underground.
@catsandcarsringtailgang6188
@catsandcarsringtailgang6188 2 года назад
I'm with Slipknot on Primitive Man, nothing wrong with it, just not for me! (Ethans Dad) ...........J.K. !
@mindofmatter071
@mindofmatter071 Год назад
Great shit!!!
@red240red2
@red240red2 Год назад
Slipknot was pretty heavy now it is ALOT softer. If they stood with that iowa and self titled sound aggression then it would be different.
@ToddzWrath76
@ToddzWrath76 2 года назад
What about a band the got bigger the heavier they got like Panthers?
@Dead_ham
@Dead_ham 3 года назад
Comparing slipknot to cannibal corpse lol. Defend elm Street dude doesn't like extreme extreme metal.
@Dead_ham
@Dead_ham 3 года назад
Then saying young heads ain't in the scene is horse shit. Look at all the fucking bands on Maggot Stomp dude... A
@notmyname9261
@notmyname9261 6 месяцев назад
Slayer brought out Alien Weaponry to be fair.
@RubbleHome
@RubbleHome 2 года назад
Doc doesn’t understand that people don’t like that shit at all.
@Steven-dk4nq
@Steven-dk4nq Год назад
Case in point...Candiria. Went sooooo soft.
@ericbasora4697
@ericbasora4697 Год назад
Love Ethan, doc ruins this video.
@VitrificationOfBlood
@VitrificationOfBlood Год назад
Why is this doc dude here? He’s totally clueless lol. And he needs to stop being so defensive, like damn
@Steven-dk4nq
@Steven-dk4nq Год назад
Amon Amarth is not as big as Cannibal. Slipknot!?? You cant even mention them in this convo.
@Samplelord
@Samplelord 2 года назад
What's up with Doc? Next time get someone who knows what the conversation is about. Love the other hosts and Ethan is great but after 12 minutes of Doc's nonsense I stopped watching.
@ThomasBriggs-v6x
@ThomasBriggs-v6x 2 месяца назад
The second someone starts talking about Bring me the Horizon they loose the argument.
@jessemeredith9169
@jessemeredith9169 Год назад
Dude with the elm st shirt ruined this
@robr2303
@robr2303 Год назад
I thought ethan liked bellwitch...bellwitch is not that extreme.
@LiquidSun62
@LiquidSun62 2 года назад
Lmao this bad wolves guy probably thinks hes making extreme metal or some shit
@Alkatraz420Volta
@Alkatraz420Volta Год назад
slipknot been soft.
@FischerDefilementory
@FischerDefilementory 6 месяцев назад
Wtf is he talking about with Slipknot, Iowa is heavier than all of the following albums combined 😂
@jessicagreer5015
@jessicagreer5015 4 года назад
Never got the hype on Gatecreeper. Why have they gotten so big??
@Primal-Dude
@Primal-Dude Год назад
cause they're sick
@1.--_--.1
@1.--_--.1 4 месяца назад
I feel Ethan. Iron Maiden, Priest etc is soft and weak to me
@simaomendes1927
@simaomendes1927 8 месяцев назад
Slipknot is crap
@thomgwarrior
@thomgwarrior 3 месяца назад
Stumbled on this podcast. Besides Ethan, everything else here is total cringe.
@donkeyboy2678
@donkeyboy2678 4 месяца назад
wow this don guy is awful
@toughgiraffe5865
@toughgiraffe5865 4 года назад
Metal is the worst rock. It’s like mumble rap in hip hop
@marionfalco
@marionfalco 4 года назад
@Vengeance * inexcusably ignorant comment we just saw
@toughgiraffe5865
@toughgiraffe5865 4 года назад
@Vengeance * it’s by far the easiest least talented form of rock by far. Extremely repetitive riffs, boring bass/rhythm. Unnecessary drums , none existing vocals or melody. Should I go on ?
@toughgiraffe5865
@toughgiraffe5865 4 года назад
@Vengeance * being a lifelong fan of rock in an area known for dance and trance, also being in a band gives me an opinion on rock I think
@toughgiraffe5865
@toughgiraffe5865 4 года назад
@Vengeance * that fact you are so offended proves my point 😂😂
@cnsk646
@cnsk646 3 года назад
What in the actual fuck?
@Vinylincantation
@Vinylincantation Год назад
Ethan is dope haha. But the debut Slipknot is one of the darkest, hardest and most chaotic records of all time.
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