Mainz - A Good German Premium & Desync Response From WG 

Just curious, anyone else getting pens with no damage as well?

@@postwar142 Probably the guns absorbed the dmg

@@postwar142 I get this as well

@@brycekallenbach8042 Well today I had games where damage numbers don't pop while the upper right corner DMG counter increased correctly

@@aijokallen6669 I'm not knocking out guns when it happens though

Flamu: All of them

Christmass Tree in April.

Mainz is already released so nerf is nullified.

eastindies Released premium ships don’t get direct nerfs. They only get indirect nerfs like the smoke firing penalty and ifhe rework for the Kutuzov. Special ships (like Smolensk and Thunderer) do get direct nerfs sometimes.

Mr. Goodtree 🌳 puff puff

@eastindies a direct nerf isn't going to happen to the Mainz. So if you have any suggestions for an indirect nerf for the Mainz, do enlighten us all

@@nicholshim1 They could nerf the german penetration.

It's released already, no released premium has ever gotten individually nerfed.

@@nikoolix So, it's the entire German cruiser line that's getting nerfed next then...huh

I’m sorry, it isn’t, a slow moving garbage, unfit to call it a cruiser. More like a useless light BB

That map should not see anything above Tier 5.

First tier 9 game was on Mines in the bone stock E75... oh the horror!

Oh man, I remember being in an IS-6 and got my shit KICKED IN on that map lmao. Memories... oh the memories...

Mainz is a german city and he pronounce it correctly. 🤗

I guess the person who made this ship is fired now.

@@TerjeL You bet

Tirpitz: hello.

@@TerjeL executed*

Roberto577 heard of the Petr Bagration?

@@liamfreeman1812 ahh yes, the glorious Bagration. Perfect Soviet engineering comrade.

I think you mean Tallin, Russian T8 with 12x180mm🤭

Daniel Delgado Mainz is way better than Tallin and Bagration

7.65 Luger

The era of AP spamming was the original era of WoWs. I mean, sure HE spam was still stupid strong in the early days of WoWs, but AP was the name of the game.

@@TheAmazingCowpig minotaur is epic gamer

Nothing wrong with AP spam. Unless it's the. "LOL I overmatch everything" kind

the difrence is that AP can be countered, angling and good positioning see to this. it also allows vessels with superior armor to act as spearheads, being more resiliant to it and able to push people away from caps. it was the main thing that drived early BB close quarter builds. but now? with HE being in an absurdly good state, there is nothing that one can do when pushing. pushing will net you tons of damage and multiple perma-fires that are going to kill you or destroy your game, all the while DDs are forced to hide from both HE campers and planes to not have a 30 seconds match. Really the only solution is to stand at the back of the map and snipe, which only benefits a handfull of ships, allong with the HE snipers themselves, or join the cancer with more HE spam cruisers in the hope of outcancering the other side. it makes for a lot of unfun one sided match with very little moments where i can look back at it and say "well if i had done this/team had done that, we would have won this"

@@mobiuscoreindustries you have to play rather passive in wows, e.g facing your bow away from the enemy while kiting away as they try to kill you. it's hard to explain but this guide rather helped a lot www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/9vgr3i/a_guide_how_to_get_good_at_world_of_warships/

They can't nerf released premium ships so WG finally screwed up and gave us a good german ship Can't argue with the soviet 8km hydro tho XDDD

Greksouvlaki GZ you’re right! They’ll just remove her from shop.

Jpdillon they did already didn’t they?

@@shinkicker404 I think she's back again

WG: all German light crusiers will gain an extra 10 seconds main gun reload and all German torp ranges will be reduce to 1km. Fixed it for you 😉

They can't nerf it, it's a released premium for cash. Same reason they won't nerf Georgia

On NA they removed this in 5 days, thanks to flamuu video it will be nerfed now

@@chrisnettos4749 They added it back to NA I just bought it :).

But yeah, they can't nerf cash ships. The only way cash ships get nerfed is if they change game mechanics, like how the long-range invisible fire nerf screwed over the Atlanta.

@@dizzlethechef cant nerf premium ship? Yeah right... (looks at graf zeppelin after slingshot nerf)

Plus Icebreaker bow removed, and some russian ship buffed.

U mean decreased?

well its prem ship cant change haha

Tbh, the range is a bit too much

@@robinekhoodekful or reload time

Since WG can’t nerf a premium, they’ll add a global nerf where 150mm guns receive 1/8 pen

Can't get nerfed. but powercrept by russian balans like always

they gonna fixed it by launching a new soviet line ship and any other ship after that and we're gonna forget the problem because new ship

They will buff the desync because they use forsure UDSSR country based servers. 😂🤣 forsure no nerf is incoming for the desync 😘

The tirpitz is a blast to play

Tacticool Millenial shhhhh WeeGee doesn’t know about Tirpitz yet be quiet

@@notaidan4451 oops...:D

@@nissan300ztt it can be great sometimes but the main battery is garbadge, even at close range hard to hit anything. I played all T8 bbs except KII and liked all of them except Bismarck more than the Tirpitz. Especially Massa, its 406mm with better pen angles, dispersion (or sigma? Idk, but it's better), better heal and way better secondary accuracy and AA. All for the trade of Torpedos that break mostly anyway.

@@anidiot2818 Dispersion or Sigma doesn't really make a Difference. If you have really high Sigma and high Dispersion you will still reliably hit. Which is the Reason Russian Accuracy doesn't get that much worse over Distance. The Dispersion increases, but high Sigma means that a lot of the shots will still hit where you're aiming.

Neither has Chapayev or Kutuzov access to heal. In fact its extremely easy to blap either one of them even if they are angled. Neither has 1/4th HE pen either nor 4x4 torps.

@@CloneDAnon key word "ice breaker bow" neither chapayever and kutuzov has those. im talking about new soviet balans ship Pyotr Bagration. she got it allgot all, great guns. excellent concealment, good AA and excellent surviviablity with soviet unique commander and heal. flolo already made vid about it.

​@@yansuki4240 TBH Chappy and Kutuzov have ice breaker bows (but its only 25mm). Pyotr Bagration has not been released. Kinda unfair to compare WIP ships to live ships. Also 180mm guns is hardly a light cruiser. In fact Chapayev is the best comparison for Mainz and i can telly you already that Mainz is much better.

@@CloneDAnon the fact that it already got everything and even access to heal is already BS. im comparing premiums since its a premium ship. no point comparing non premium to premium. atago has heal but it got poor range, armor, gigantic citadel and poor HP. eugen has shit DPM and clumsy asf. it also no access to ice breaker armor. making yolo harder to pull. also has less torpedo power im surprise they release mainz as good german ship.

Nice reference.

Speak for yourself, buddy.... I started the game to play US BBs. Everything is 20 Kts. EVERYTHING!! And if you turn or generally try to evade you're down to 15-13 Kts :((

Last time I checked Harugumo had an engine boost.

@@vtr0104 BBs are designed to be slower than cruisers. He is talking about a DD that is not faster than a cruiser. The DD is definitively slower than Italian cruisers or French cruisers running speed booster.

Imagine playing Harugumo

@@shoukatsukai Harugumo is awesome dude. What do you mean

wargaming don't nerf released premiums

@@matthewtian5486 They never said they would never add submarines either.

@@matthewtian5486 They do but only indirectly through global nerfs or making them irrelevant through powercreep.

@@SeraphoftheRoundTable They called off the GC nerf thx to the whiners

The difference is that people pay for premiums

they literally said on the day of removal that they would return it in like a week

They did the exact same thing with Bayard, it's for pricing, don't spread false messages.

Hirod Nazari Have you seen this comment section? It’s a hive of false messages all secretly screaming ‘LIKE ME’.

Ok, truth be told I did not see that message So ir you want me to apologize, I do But you still can’t neglect that it’s very weird to do that, either for this ship or the Bayard Also, why this CL has worse concealment than Eugen, which itself has less than Hipper? Anyone want to take a guess?

No, it came from a torpedo bomber. If you look closely you can see the torpedo fall into the water for a split second and you can see the AA firing into the direction

They can’t nerf premiums

They can't nerf it anymore

@@Hahlen Wait what,did they change something?

Cor Vorke they’ve never nerfed a premium because people paid for it so it would be kinda shitty to make it worse

@@Hahlen Sorry I was thinking of WoT where they're shitty enough to do that lol

well, Mainz is WG's rendition of the "Seydlitz class"; the Seydlitz and Lützow were originally planned to be built as CLs with 4 of the German 3-gun 150mm gun turrets seen on both the Königsburg & Leipzig/Nürnberg classes (edited for a spelling & Grammar mistake)

redtitan75 my thoughts exactly about Lütjens

DOMI _ You want to have IFHE in everything 180 and smaller. Simply because you won’t do any good up-tier battles. Also fires can be 100% healed and you leave your existence and success to chance.

@@maximumhate666 thank you evry mutch for your opinion. I will check it ^^

It's a mod called clear waters.

@@MHasnain2663 Thanks :)

Mods that's why

Calm waters mod, available in the WG mod station.

@@GandalfTehGray Much obliged, good Sir, I shall endeavor to look into it and report back.

“Premiums will never be nerfed” “Submarines will never be added to the game”

And it's *German*

@@jlthiess But they've stayed true to the premiums not being nerfed thing. The only time that happens is when it's a large scale mechanic change such as smoke firing, IFHE, etc. No premium has ever gotten individually nerfed.

@@nikoolix They did update the ToS quite a while ago to allow the possibility of nerfing premiums. Can't find it right now, but I did read through it at one point. I don't have a problem with balancing overperforming ships per se, but I do object to the principle of nerfing something that I paid a decent amount of money for because I wanted to own that specific set of capabilities. I'm not sure if or when they actually will begin nerfing premiums, but it's no longer official company policy to avoid doing so.

Used to be able to. She used to have really good accuracy, but now she seems to have worse dispersion than the Germans.

Mainz is a cruiser, what did you expect? :SerB:

Missouri citadels things just fine.