I was wondering the same thing…that’s what the AUX RCA is for ….also I hadn’t looked in the back of my Rev-7 in a while but if you do plug into channel RCA’s there should be a phono/ line switch….it has to be switched to line…you shouldn’t see that cartridge signal line at all if you have that switch set to line if it has it….if not that’s a phono only RCA and once again you should be plugged into the AUX RCA
There is a line/phono switch on the back of the rev7 for both Chanel 1 and Channel 2. Mine are switched to line. Why have it if the aux should be used? I like to have full control of the efx and eq. The aux don’t allow that. Thanks for stopping by and pointing out the line/phono switch.
That red line is basically linear representation of the oscilloscope that you would see in the settings in Serato when using DVS. As to why the hell it is showing up when You have no DVS connected and are only connected via HID which is the only way for the rev7 *controller* to connect to a computer is a total mind fuck. So I do sound at a nightclub... And an audio engineer by education and profession (so not just a "sound guy") I know how to read those oscilloscope graphs.. from my experience with using Serato DVS on professional club gear via club kit, I'm still unsure why the linear feedback is showing up on your deck when not in THRU mode. You did the right thing by using LINE on the channel settings because your Bluetooth adapter would be sending out a line level signal (1v). But then when you switch it to USB A or B, whatever is plugged in to the physical RCA ports either line level or phono level should no longer be permitted to send it's signal past the controller. you laptop should not be registering any signal from those analog inputs. This makes no sense to me.. But it is a controller and I don't really care to learn about any controller on the market for the simple fact that they can become a complete paperweight as soon as the company decides arbitrarily to end their support. Basically they are only usable for as long as the company allows you to use it. As soon as the company decides that they are no longer supporting the device, You are relegated to using the old version of the software, which would lead to compatibility issues with your OS updates down the road.. it's. A quick way to throw out your cash.. And it's not like these things are inexpensive.. DJ spend thousands of dollars on them and a couple years later are forced to upgrade with absolutely nothing wrong with their existing controller.. But I digress.. back to your issue. The only thing I can think of for Serato to still be registering something that is plugged into the analog RCA inputs would be the fx section you mentioned in an earlier reply.. I don't know about the rev 7 as I said, but if the controller does not have onboard effects, and instead makes use of seratos software effects, then that might make sense.. But for Serato to be able to apply its software effects to an analog input on the controller would need 2 extra digital to analog conversions in the signal chain.. and your serato program should not be displaying THRU because the signal is literally not just running through the controller anymore it's going through Serato.. so you probably have onboard effects on the REV7. Just out of curiosity, that red linear oscilloscope readout has only been nicknamed the red line of death by DJs that have seen it on a DVS setup.. And I can understand why it got that nickname. But you're not using DVS.. so it made not actually be a "line of death" in your use case... Might only have just been conditioned to see it as a bad thing. But really what it's showing is equivalent to the channel LEDs displaying the variation in dBu of an input signal. In a case of using a DVS setup, that readout should not show any variation because it's playing the Serato control signal which is simply a sine wave and additional noise that allows the software to differentiate different positions the DJ wants to play from an mp3 or WAV etc. The sine wave and noise is supposed to always be at a uniform volume (dBu).... Any variations to that would get in the way of understanding the positioning data.. usually it's a faulty or old and worn down RCA cable ... And once corrected, the variation is eliminated and no red line of death is displayed anymore.. In your case though, you're not using DVS, but that red line being present would simply be a visual feedback letting you know there is a signal coming in and you can gauge its level (visually) so swapping from the USB to the line level would not result in a huge volume boost or drop. In your case out of curiosity, have you allowed your Serato to continue playing even though that line has shown up? I know you've said that When you see the line it's an indicator that your music will distort, slow down, or somehow just screw up on the output.. But have YOU actually Let your Serato play even with this showing up..? Because I would be really surprised if Serato somehow still distorts the output when you are completely using HID control. If it does distort, there is something seriously wrong with Serato or the Serato / Rev7 implementation. I'm curious to know what would actually happen if you let it play out and ignore the red line. .. That said, if you're using any gear that supports both HID and DVS, seeing that red line might be a reason to call the sound guy into the booth to check it out.. But plugged into a controller, it should have absolutely no effect on serato's playback. There should be no physical connection between that RCA input from affecting the playback coming directly from your computer to the Rev 7.. It should not be possible to affect it. And if it does, that's a rather huge problem with the rev7 and should be reason enough to never buy something that allows a signal to pass through when not set to 'thru' mode. Also I've been referring to Serato by name. But any software like traktor, Rekordbox, that makes use of HID connection should never have the output signal affected in any way by an analog RCA input on its controller. I would be livid at Pioneer DJ if they failed to engineer a proper channel input switch which should in theory and practice put a physical barrier between that input stage leaking any signal through the controller back to my computer. It would be very bad engineering men an indication of a backflow of an electrical charge flowing somewhere it should not be going. Many times we have a backflow of electricity through a device, It indicates a lack of a resistor network to prevent that current flow and over time will fry your device. That's why I would be livid with them. But that's also why I'm willing to bet that your serato signal is not going to be harmed by simply seeing that readout. Not with a controller that only connects via HID and has no internal DVS capabilities. But even if you do have the ability to "link" using DVS mode (either via a turntable or external CDJ) then I would be livid at Serato for their failure. .because as I said, HID mode should not be at all affected by any analog input if you have not set Serato for DVS. If it's an HID mode, why the hell would they be looking for that sine wave on an analog input for DVS. You have not set it for DVS mode and if it's affecting the output like you say, then they need to fix that bug immediately! Either way, let us know what happens if you actually let Serato play out with that red line of death still appearing. It should not affect your output stage. It absolutely *should* not .... And if it does, you should be emailing both companies and demanding an explanation! The only real "fix" would have to come from them.. everything you do otherwise like in your video here, is simply a Band-Aid to fix a flaw on their end. (You should be a lot more angry at them than you are lol!)
You are the 1st that I met who has not had this issue. I will reach out to Pioneer to see if it can be fixed. Thanks for stopping by and thanks for letting me know that this is not happening to everybody.
That just adds more equipment. I want everything controlled in one central location unless I’m doing a big production. Send the model number so I can check it out.
Plus you lose the ability to affect anything plugged into an external mixer with your DJ controls. He says he uses the effects on the controller, wouldn't have that anymore. Plus Mackie effects or any effects unit in an external mixer I'm not designed to be used like DJ effects. They sound better, and often have better processing (except Mackie) But they're not meant to be used for short bursts or transitions. They're great to add consistent effects to a signal in a subtle way.. The aux input on a DJ mixer bypasses the processing stage because it's meant to be used for background/intermission fill.. If you're playing a DJ set and want to incorporate music from another input device, you're not supposed to be using the aux input. You need to be able to access it on the channel strip to have just the most basic EQ functions. Otherwise you're just fading in fading out one track to the other
Damn. I sent a huge reply to this video but I did it within the comments of another user.. It meant to send it as a direct reply to this video. So if you didn't get a notification of a new reply, it's probably worth finding it in one of the past replies ..
That’s a good idea, however if I lookup a song it’s from a streaming service and I’m not sure how the clients access their music. Thanks for stopping by.
Firmware on the rev7 is updated. I will check Serato and let you know if the problem is fixed in their update. However, I do t think this has anything to do with Serato.
This is a serious issue. If you are not aware and don’t know how to fix it (stop it from happening) it can cause the music to play either very slowly or very fast and it will be out of control. I didn’t show that in the video but when under pressure at a gig it will ruine your set.
@@EnormeSounds Im also leaning to Virtuaj Dj these days Serato lacks a lot of things, Virtual Dj also has a very good Automix feature that mixes very professionally a thing Serato cant do, you can listen for hours VDJ mixing nicely for you like a Live DJ
@@DJ_MOODY I see I’m wrong after fully watching the video. I see the problem with the input selection. Where there is a signal coming though the input and not the aux input line. I understand stand what he trying to do where he wants full control of the highs n low. As well as effects. But that will not work that way since the rev 7 trying to read 2 signals at the same time option a use the aux line or option b. Use a mixer Only other thing I could think off is maybe try grounding off the unit and use the phono/line
