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Make a $45 tenon saw perform like a premium tool in this complete rehab video.
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@scottrowlings5345 4 года назад

I think I’ve got a dozen of those S&J saws at school, looks like my students will be rebuilding some saws! Thanks for the great content

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Right on!

@dakatone 3 года назад

I think that is a great learning resource they will make use of again and again.

@jons2447 Год назад

@@dakatone Your icon looks like "Florida Boy Survival" w/out the beard.

@igreshi 11 месяцев назад

How did that project go? Sounds so fun!

@candycoatedcactus 4 года назад

"Can we make these better than the manufacturer did?" ABSOLUTELY. I've worked in manufacturing for years now, and time is always the most expensive part of the process (in America). If you have a machine that can churn out beech handles, by golly you machine the dickens out of those beech handles. Touch them up with as little individual man power as possible and get those babies and ship 'em out. That's why I love these videos where you tune up cheaper tools. By contributing your own time to the product, you can cut down on the cost significantly. Always impressed with your stuff Rex. Thanks for continuing to post great work.

@harrymason1053 11 месяцев назад

I've got some old tools that were cheap when I bought them 50-55 years ago. They are all rusty due to neglect and I had a BIG stroke, too. Well, I'm recovering and I'm going to make the tools recover as well. I like your term, hot rod. Yeah! I am going to do just as you say. Thanks. I cleaned up my carving chisels. They came out well. Your site has inspired me.

@738polarbear 4 года назад

This video was actually full of really good advice . He turned a $45 saw into a saw worth at the very least $150.Excellent upgrade REX,just exce;llent.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Thank you!

@lourias 3 года назад

@@RexKrueger You are also a great orator. Your content is pure, simple, helpful, organized, relevant, and always encouraging!! I am not a woodworker; however, your tips and tricks have broadened my ability to fix a 100+ year old break-down, collapsible wardrobe and tidy up some of my son's monor house repairs. You have expanded my knowledge base! Thank you for all of your help!

@petereastwood7868 3 года назад

Except that now, today (7/25/21), that $45 price has been jacked up to $94! Jeff Bezos has got to pay for those trips somehow.

@johnbesharian9965 2 года назад

@@petereastwood7868, and on August 18th, 2021 I bought a 10" Spear & Jackson Model 5410Y Professional Tenon Saw for $38.06+ the Governor's Cut on Amazon Prime. The plate's 0.027" thick with a kerf of 0.033". Just checked and it's now $33.06 on July 22, 2022. Oh, and it has real saw handle hardware. No prying, just the proper size and shape flat blade screwdriver (I use my Chapman Gun Screw Driver Kit N0. 9600).

@LittleJohn73 4 года назад

Rex, I sharpened my S&J saw per your video and took it to a dovetailing class this weekend. The instructor checked out the saw (having never seen one) and told me he was really impressed with how it was set up. Thank you!

@lajohnson1ly 4 года назад

Thank you for referring to Paul Sellers. You're the two woodworkers on RU-vid I'm learning the most from. I inherited some wonderful old hand tools from my late father, and between you both, am learning what to do with them. I have no extra money now, but promise to throw some patronage your way when I can.

@anthonyattaway3437 3 года назад

You should also check out Andy Rawls and Third coast craftsman

@ekbanjosworld4926 2 месяца назад

Paul Sellers, Roy Underhill, all you need!

@AuronJ 4 года назад

My wife has never watched your videos but this is already her favorite youtube channel just based off the amount of money I am not spending on tools! Great video keep up the good work!

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Your wife and my wife would love each other.

@testuser3167 4 года назад

LOL... I found out that my wife is already one of Rex's Patrons! (She's already seen this video)

@jesusrenemedinasanchez689 4 года назад

for the sanding on the inside and tight radius you can back the sand paper with duct tape that way cheap sand paper lasts way longer and it's easier to work

@lajohnson1ly 4 года назад

Nice tip.

@crustyoldfart 4 года назад

One thing I can never understand is why so many woodworkers are so ready to use sandpaper, especially when a fair amount of material needs to be removed. I personally prefer to use files, rasps and rifflers. In fact one of my most popular tools is a Farrier's rasp [ designed for shaping horse's hooves ]. This two sided flat tool [ super coarse one side, coarse on the other ] is perfect for shaping wood where a fair amount of material needs to be removed. The finer work can be performed with rasp or rifflers or files of various types. My original shop teacher would not permit the use of sandpaper most of the time, and then only for a final finish and only with a sanding block. In general my own judgment is that sandpaper and emery cloth are more suited for sharpening chisels and gouges.

@corpsiecorpsie_the_original 4 года назад

@@crustyoldfart - if you don't understand you should ask them directly.

@Bdlawless 4 года назад

This is a quality tip.

@Bdlawless 4 года назад

@@crustyoldfart What if I just like to use sandpaper?

@gabrielcairns7050 4 года назад

This channel is amazing! I often feel like there's a massive paywall between me and any success in woodworking because I can't get all the tools I thought I needed. Turns out it can be a lot cheaper if I just put some time on. Thank you Rex! You're a true gent.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

They want you to think you need to spend thousands. You don't.

@PandorasFolly 4 года назад

@@RexKrueger I really like woodworking and software/computers for the same reason. You start with some basic tools and you use them to make better tools and to learn how to use your tools better. Learn, do, learn, do, learn. Your videos are simply amazing.

@TimothyEdDoran 4 года назад

Also if money is tight, like it is for me look on eBay. I bought a slightly older but equally ugly spear and Jackson for £10ish delivered. Rex thanks for the freebie. I'm loving the router plane from your plans. Well worth the money.

@marcusborderlands6177 4 года назад

@@PandorasFolly generally i like computer software for a slightly different reason. the ease at which i can get products for free easily makes up for the lack of a secondhand market for a lot of newer software.

@paulbigelow758 3 года назад

I just finished buying and modding this saw. My carcass saws do most of what I need, so I was reluctant to spend top dollar on a larger tenon saw that I may not use that much. I have a few suggestions resulting from my hacking, if someone is still thinking of doing this: I left the rivets in place while working on the saw - clamping the blade in my vice made it easier to carve the handle. However a plastic blade guard or tape on the teeth are a good idea - as the saying goes, don't ask me how I know. When my back-ordered brass Chicago bolts come in, I'll drill out the rivets and then shellac my handle. Watch out for the vee notch on the inside front of the handle. With my saw, the template put that notch well into the saw plate. To be safe, make the notch shallower (or leave it out). Unless you have large hands, leave the red cutouts on the inside tips of the two horns at the back of the handle until you have tested the fit. Ideally the horns should support your hand at the top and bottom with no slop.

@TheSilmarillian 4 года назад

Hello from Australia I have been restoring antique furniture for the past six years or so was an interesting learning curve then I came across a supplier of good pallet wood (pallets used in containers to ship windscreens and that sparked my interest in woodwork.Living off grid with a decent workshop I started building various furniture am now at the stage where I have retooled part of my workshop for wood work its videos like yours,along with the rebuilding of the old school joints that have brought me to this point and that inspired me to branch out.Thanks

@notreallymyname3736 Год назад

I have to say, I'm beyond impressed with how well these adjustments have worked so far. I just finished sharpening my S&J back saw, and it's a completely different tool! Now for that handle...

@luispadilla2030 4 года назад

"These saws are flying off the shelves. Our poor design and questionable finishing must be just what people are looking for in a saw..." - someone at S&J probably

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Unintended consequence of highlighting these cheap tools; sales go up on things that aren't very good.

@nurgle11 4 года назад

@@RexKruegerThanks for the vid Rex, All the modern S & J saws seem to have diabolical handles, they have a nice cheap 24" reshapenable saw that feels like someone nailed a block of wood to a plate but same principle applies to that i.e. tidy up the teeth and reshape the handle (I havent got around to replacing the rivets yet).

@martynspeck 4 года назад

@@RexKrueger It's a shame really. They could have made a great tool with not much more effort. They have to cut a shape, cut a better shape. The setting and the sharpening might be a excusable at the price point but not the handle.

@silmarils94 4 года назад

@@martynspeck I think that's all could do the CNC, but mine is not as Rex says, the set is good ans I just had to take the protection coat of the plate to resolve the cutting issue .Anyway I'm in Europe, perhaps they are different?

@zackfishle1009 4 года назад

Details cost more. I charge for sharp details (You can pay less, but the finished product just doesn't look as good.)and it looks like Spear and Jackson should have a premium lineup of 'tuned' saws from the get go. It sounds like they are using premium materials and saving cost in the assembling stage. It saves us crafty people money. I do like my UK made tools, they are well made and I shall pick up a saw here shortly.

@40ozFatality Год назад

This is a great saw. Don't ever want a new one lol. I filed off a flat part on the rivets and drilled them out rather than prying them out. Very easy. I also used the Taytools 115720 solid brass saw nuts which were expensive but totally worth it imo. After all that work and an espresso finish on the handle the brass really pops. People constantly ask how I afforded such an expensive saw.

@jurikristjouw Год назад

I am just putting an old wooden handle on a new blade, because it felt soo much better. These video's are what youtube is all about imho. Learning from the experience of million of hours work and multiple generations in a few minutes... I would hate to see old crafts disappear like let's say building piramids ;-) Thanx!

@Joew99001 4 года назад

Rex, this solution is brilliant! I've got all kinds of saws, including two cheapos. They will now experience a resurrection of sorts. Your approach creates a perfect merger of classic quality features and sensible cost. Like I said: brilliant.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Glad to help!

@mandyleeson1 4 года назад

Really useful tips, Thank you Rex. Also, great that you made reference to Paul Sellers, he has inspired so many of us. Cheers.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

My pleasure!

@joeseabert8391 4 года назад

I’ve mentioned this a couple times and it’s off topic from this video but yesterday I had the occasion to use my Stanley palm plane again. Before watching your videos I wouldn’t have used it. What I was doing wasn’t really finish enough and wouldn’t be seen by anyone anyway, but having it available and set up to work properly I pulled it from my tool box just to get more time on it. I’ve had this tool for over 10 years and used it once I think, had an unmemorable experience. But I’m now enjoying it. I like how the weight of it does the cutting I’m using it to bevel the edge and smooth the endgrain . I do need to replace the blade, I don’t know how I cracked it. But even cracked it is satisfying to use. I’ve been collecting wood from furniture that is being thrown out. I picked up a broken chair and I’m now using it as a work bench. Starting small and cheep. My level of precision is too far from ok to attempt to make anything large like a work bench yet. But I’m am gaining on my patents and expectations. Just wanted to thank you for putting this information out here because if it wasn’t for your explaining it the way you had I wouldn’t be trying.

@theidlehandsworkshop3884 4 года назад

Definitely loving this approach to getting "high end" tools from "low end" tools... right in my budget and thought process. Heck, my anvil is a 2 foot length of railroad track that cost me $5 and a 6 pack of beer for a friend to cut to shape for me.

@Giganfan2k1 2 года назад

2' of rail makes a beast of an anvil. cheers!

@jamesbeale4451 4 года назад

Awesome template! While watching, I realized that the old miter box saw I got from my dad 35 years ago was almost identical to the one you improved in this video. So I used your template to re-shape the handle of mine. I've used the old saw a bit now and then over the years, but now the fit in my hand is SO much better. I'm sure I'll use it a lot more often now. Thanks so much for all your videos and especially for sharing this template at no cost. (I'm all about the bargains.)

@jasonkoontz4095 4 года назад

This is gold! I modify tools and anything else that I use often to make it suit me better. I love the mindset to modify something cheap to get the value out of it. Keep these coming!

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Right on!

@edanthony4131 4 года назад

My grandfather kept all of his hands saw tuned very much like that. He did it with a "saw-set" and I had a tool box stolen out of my shop with his saw-set and several other of his tools in it. He would own nothing but a Disston and I still have all five that he owned...great video...

@SlowShadow 4 года назад

Rex, you have (already previously) persuaded this guy to get into woodworking. I never thought turning wood into dust and shavings would be so rewarding!

@AlexanderOvercast 4 года назад

This isn't just a great way to get a quality saw at a cheap price! It's looks like a very fun project.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

I had more fun than I expected to!

@AlexanderOvercast 4 года назад

@@RexKrueger there is definitely something especially satisfying about making something not only better but also your own.

@gmmeier321 4 года назад

Nice job. Another option is going to a used tool store or a flea market or a tool swap meet. I got a nice old dovetail saw for $20.

@bryanesmith8739 4 года назад

@@gmmeier321 Not too many flea markets going on right about now...

@Chrish97840 11 месяцев назад

This was a super fun project, I appreciate how much time you put into your videos. It's inspired me to get back into woodworking again.

@matthewmarting3623 4 года назад

I must say, this is really well done and cleverly approached. Used to be a woodworker and now a metalworker - it always confused me how woodworkers used to be afraid of metalwork but you showed the huge benefits you can get with some ingenuity and courage. And massive kudos to you for drilling steel with a bit and brace!

@iamwhoiam4410 5 месяцев назад

I recently bought a new Lie Nielson tenon saw. $280.00 shipped. It's almost impossible to start with a 11 tpi, so what I have to do is start the cut with a crosscut saw and then use the tenon saw to finish the cut. It's so aggressive i have to be very careful with it not to blow out the cut. I hope it gets better with time being able to start the saw. You're a master at providing solutions for woodworkers that can't afford high end tools. Thank you for that and your efforts to make these videos.

@danceswithaardvarks3284 4 года назад

Have done two now and would recommend grinding the top of the rivets flat (on the opposite side to the medallion), drilling the heads off with a 7mm drill bit and punching the rivets out. The sharpening tips worked well and both saws now start easily and cut true. Thanks again.

@jasonburch2061 28 дней назад

How did you grind them flat, did you use a dremel tool or a file? I’m just curious as I am about to start this project with my 8 year old son.

@danceswithaardvarks3284 28 дней назад

@@jasonburch2061 Dremel would work, but I think I used a file. Good luck with your project.

@TheThriftyWoodworker 4 года назад

I am going to do this to one of my old saws.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Good luck!

@godefroymonnin122 3 месяца назад

I needed a good saw for joinery and followed your consels. Bought a saw and a good old stanley number 6 for the very price I intended to spend on a saw..... Thanks .

@JohnKirk 4 года назад

This is the video I've been waiting for. I bought the spear and Jackson a couple months ago.

@gregzoller9003 3 месяца назад

Just picked up my S&J backsaw to do this mod. Oh my! Thing is heavy--a tank. That's good--brass back. But when Rex says the handle his horrible, believe him! I am pretty tolerant of so-so cheap stuff, but this handle is really bad. Can't wait to fix it! Started: Fixing the set... I'm using the hammer anvil as that's what I have. Put some painter tape about 1/8" up along the blade then marked sections equal to the width of my little brad hammer (like Rex's). That way I can measure each section and see how I'm doing. Made one light pass. Be careful--easy does it! Even a light tapping has an impact. I started at 0.050 on my saw and after one pass mostly 0.040 with a few sections 0.037. Doesn't take much. Now I can lightly return to the sections that need more help. I re-measured after every pass (3 in total) and now each section ranges between 0.035 - 0.037. Nice! Sharpening is next but just for grins I tried making a cut to compare new vs re-set. What a difference! The re-set saw's cut line was clean, thin, and straight. Now to sharpen...

@adamthethird4753 4 года назад

Patreon Member #1505 here. New as of this morning. Thanks for your addicting channel. I'm learning tons and I'm glad to see someone doing this without the standard power tools like table saws. band saws. etc. Nothing wrong with using those tools, but I don't have any, so this channel is perfect for me.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

I have all the power tools, but I'm learning to get by without them. Turns out, it's not that hard!

@trackie1957 Год назад

@@RexKrueger And I just don’t have the room for big, stationary power tools. Turns out, I don’t need the noise, hazards and expense, plus I am developing skills that are versatile and enduring.

@travisfamadventures9044 3 года назад

I bought myself this S&J saw for my own Father’s Day present! I have watched this video now probably 15 times today! 4 different kinds of rasps were used to shape the handle: pics coming soon for all to see! The hardest part was enlarging the holes in the plate. My 9/32 drill bit was much too dull. Also very glad to see that the plate end is visible in the handle loop on yours too Rex! I thought I had really messed up lol!

@willclevett7560 4 года назад

Great video, I followed these steps and managed to identify the issue with a vintage saw I'd sharpened. I thought it was my skill that was the issue with me cutting straight, but after noticing the set on the teeth was ragged and knocking it back a little, I'm able to cut much more accurately to my marks and with a significantly cleaner cut. (also I picked up the vintage saw for £20, so should probably go in as a suggestion; if youre going to restore the saw anyway, I'd hit the vintage market over the new market without even blinking)

@johnbesharian9965 2 года назад

Mr. Kruger, on August 18th, 2021 I bought a 10" Spear & Jackson Model 5410Y Professional Tenon Saw for $38.06+ the Governor's Cut on Amazon Prime. The plate's 0.027" thick with a kerf of 0.033". Just checked and it's now $33.06 on Amazon this July 22, 2022. Oh, and it has real saw handle hardware. No prying, just the proper size and shape flat blade screwdriver. (I use my Chapman Gun Screw Driver Kit No. 9600 because blade contour is very important with slot screws.) This version has a cherry stained hardwood handle that, surprisingly, looks like sycamore. "Who Knew?"

@gregsaunders9472 4 года назад

Well done

@thatguy_306 Год назад

I just bought this saw and followed these steps (minus the handle), the improvement was definitely there I'm pretty happy with my cheap saw.

@LaraCroftCP 5 месяцев назад

I have a kinda good choice maded, all my saws i own i inheritanced or buyed for 1€ and tuned them up. I build for every saw a fully new handle i designed by my own. I made over seven prototypes till i was happy with the fit for my relativly small hands and i was statisfyed with the Design. Im really happy with my old saws😊

@steelpennyforge5152 4 года назад

Great re-work! Impressive ability to recognize and correct the problems. Very very well done!

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@badcolby Год назад

Thank you Rex, I had a back saw for years hanging on my pegboard wall gathering dust. The saw would stick & jump all over the kerf. No more! I followed your advice in this video & now it cuts without sticking. Thank you again, now if I could only get my Jack plane to cut…

@mascatrails661 4 года назад

That handle is gorgeous! Thanks for making the plans free... think this is gonna make its way into my project stream. Wonder if anyone from the company that makes it will ever see this and make these improvements to the manufacturing process

@boehst 4 года назад

Now that explains an awful lot of the problems I had with saws - thanks a lot for the good advice, Rex! Keep up the good work!

@rinsim 7 месяцев назад

One thing to say about this saw is that the original set is hybrid: one tooth on one side, one on the center and one on the other side. From what I've been seeing on RU-vid, this filing is for a rip saw (no flean) which I understand is fine for a saw with such small teeth.

@BinManSays87 3 года назад

I so need a good saw and I'm glad this video just came on because I was looking at that spear and Jackson the other day but honestly now I just want one from Sheffield to go with my vintage Sheffield tools

@BakerVS Год назад

I have an old S&J Sheffield dovetail saw. Those old handles really are amazing !

@stauffap 4 года назад

Such great conent. I always like coming back here! There's nothing better than sharing knowledge and showing people that they can do something themselves instead of buying it. Just today i took an old dovetail saw we had laying around with a zylindrical handle (impossible to use), cut off the old handle, drilled some holes into the sawblade and made myself a new handle similar to the one in your video. Then i sharpened it. I guess, without people like you i wouldn't even have thought about doing this. And now i made a previously useless tool into something useable again. Great feeling :) I was also surprised how much of a difference the handle makes. It's like a different tool. Cuts much better.

@johnshilling2221 4 года назад

I have absolutely no need, whatsoever, for one of these saws. But! I want one! I want one, now! Great video! I had no idea that I could customize my saws. Lift kit, oversized wheels and tires, lights, brush and grill guards, fender flares, heavy-duty bumpers and winches! Paint and window tint! Joking aside, I'm going to take a look at the hand saws that I do have. If nothing else, adjusting the set and sharpening the blades can't hurt.

@AkosLukacs42 4 года назад

There must be a big factory variance: bought this saw before your previous video, the set is just over 1mm, still more than your final set, but much less than the factory set on your saw. Thanks for making the template, I will try to modify the handle. One question: how big is your hand? Add that to the template as well, so ppl with larger hands may just make it bigger :)

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

My hands are huge. Yours are probably not bigger than mine.

@testuser3167 4 года назад

@@RexKrueger It's a valid question, as some of us are actually larger than you are... I actually have a "little brother" who is larger than you are too... I'm pretty sure that I'm larger than you are by quite a bit too, but when discussing this model of saw "flying off of the shelves" with my wife, particularly in light of trying to use the really cheap big-box store miter saw a few hours ago with poor results, she just ordered one of the S&J models, so either way, in a week or 2, we'll find out how the template scales to my size hands...

@j.d.1488 2 года назад

New woodworker and its funny I purchased the 9550B. Going to attempt the upgrade. Thanks for nice vid.

@Cigokar 4 года назад

I'm a woodworker. I tend to watch woodworking videos to pick on things wrong with them due to being a partypooper. but yours.... they're actually informative, even for an experienced craftsman. And entertaining. Love your work

@windhelmguard5295 3 года назад

yea as far as i can tell only one thing i would add is that the beefy handle is most likely intentional. i have seen this on other devices, tools and even some high end precision rifles with extremely blocky butt stocks, the idea is that "one size fits all" means "this size fits no one" and nobody knows which shape of handle you need better than yourself, so they make it beefier on purpose so that even someone with giant gorilla hands has enough stock left over to touch it up with a file and some sand paper. it is a genius idea and not something worth criticizing, if the handle was crap *and* too small to fix up, then we'd have a problem.

@jguil4d 4 года назад

When you talk about rolling the file, instead of left and right (which can be confusing, because the camera’s left isn’t the same as yours, and irrelevant, because your viewers may Mount their saws in their own vises with the handle oriented the other way), consider using “toward the handle” or “away from the handle”.

@davidrobins4025 4 года назад

Wow. I had no idea how much improvement can be added to a marginal back saw. Thanks for the very informative video with excellent description.

@jensaarnaes150 3 года назад

GENIUS suggestion! This made my cheap Buck Bros. miter saw cut so very much better. Thanks for sharing this!

@PedroPereira-ut6pp 4 года назад

Thank you so much for keeping your channel Rex. You are an inspiration

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

I appreciate that

@MichaelShimniok 2 года назад

This is brilliant. I'm going to go broke trying to get going into woodworking if I'm not careful 😆 so videos like this surely will help me. Even if I worry I don't have the skills to execute on improving a saw, at least I know one saw not to buy and one that will probably be decent. Btw, and I'm sure this has been mentioned, I became a big fan of step drills for enlarging holes in thin metal. Got a set of Harbor Freight bits on sale several years ago and they've been great for occasional hole drilling in aluminum, acrylic, polycarbonate, and other materials. They make drilling and enlarging holes quick and painless, although I wouldn't say they're high precision tools by any means, but they excel in certain situations. The HF 3-bit sets go on sale regularly. Hope this helps someone out there.

@Jules_73 3 года назад

Great video. I did this to a 100 + year old Disston backsaw about a decade ago. It's very satisfying to understand how to maintain all of your tools and to make them work properly. You're so right that it isn't about the money but how you maintain and use the tools you have.

@darylhawes8804 4 года назад

Rex, I saw this video and its plane to see you nailed it.. But seriously....I'd like to say thank you for this and all of your other great videos. You are one of my favorites that I follow. D.H.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Wow, thank you!

@roy_8693 2 года назад

I watched a couple of your videos and was thinking "this guy's cool maybe I'll watch more" but when you recommended Paul Sellers I was sold (no pun intended). He got me into woodworking in the first place, and I have a Spear & Jackson like the one in this video but a little shorter that is dire need of the upgrades you're suggesting. I got the handle printout. THANKS!

@guysmith8662 4 года назад

WOW! What a great Project! - Thanks Rex!

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

My pleasure!

@donmahan2374 4 года назад

Rex, Rex your video prompted to tune up a late model Disston back saw. Used your template to modify the handle and sharped as per Paul Sellers. Now I have a saw that fits my hand and cuts very well. Thanks, Don

@Mason-hs9oz Год назад

Trying this out this week! Intimidated but excited

@lewisjohnson886 3 года назад

when restoring some of my grandads old tools I found one of these saws and thanks to your advice on how to fix up handles and sharpen a saw, I got it back up and running again. thankyou rex love your videos, keep it up

@rowey1992 4 года назад

Thanks for the templates, much appreciated

@lincolndickerson1293 Год назад

Thanks Rex, this affordable tools thing is great. Woodworking for humans is great.

@michaelbriol5657 9 месяцев назад

Tried sliming down my S&J tenon with a hammer and anvil, worked much better. I will have to fill the tip and sharpen it. But what a difference. Thanks.

@NETKINGSHUBHO 2 года назад

Rex sending love and wishes from India, I learned everything from you sir :D THANKYOU

@zafardurrani9544 4 года назад

Dear Rex Krueger ! Thank you for providing the best information and knowledge about the saws and also Thank you for this wonderful video, my all the best wishes are with you.

@penguinpie5056 4 года назад

i use shellac in guitar building. feels so nice on a guitar neck. love the smell too. hard to put into words the feeling shellac brings to something you touch and move your hand across...

@GiovaniGatto 2 года назад

Hi, Rex. Don't know if this will reach you, but I'd like to say thanks for your WFH series, I work with persons with developmental disabilities (ADHD, dyslexia, autism, etc.), whom usually have sensory hypersensitivity. I've been recommending your material for them, because power tools (and huge projects) are overwhelming for them, so your material fits like a glove for them. Thanks again :)

@TheKenstarr 4 года назад

I love it! In the last 6 months or so I've taken to "improving" tools. Custom handles, surface treatments such as oxide or bluing or higher polish... Thanks for the great idea!

@kelvinsparks4651 4 года назад

I have several of these s&j back saws and a steel backed version is my go to saw . I bought it at a recycling shop here in the UK and paid 50 pence for it , probably about 75 cents US . A quick clean up , sharpen and set and it's the perfect saw . Thanks for the video and stay safe.

@bg3160 2 года назад

I have several nice back saws. My go to is a $10 Buck Brothers I picked up at Home Depot. Garbage off the shelf, but after I refiled and set the teeth, saw works incredibly well. I guess that says something about what quality really is.

@guilforddave Год назад

I bought one of these last year after first viewing this video. I didn't believe the handle could be that bad, but wow it was awful. Thanks to your template it's now very comfortable and better looking. I removed the set but didn't sharpen it and it worked pretty good. Tonight I finally got brave, broke out a small file and sharpened it. Much better. Great instructions Rex. Nicholson recommends a 4" xx-slim file for 15 tpi saw sharpening.

@joeleonetti8976 4 года назад

Thanks Rex. It looks a lot better. What a difference!

@joes144 4 года назад

So, a while back I did exactly this, removing set from a cheaper saw. My problem, I took out too much. You should do a video on the technique of hammer and nail setting saw teeth, for those of us who went at things with too much gusto.

@theeddorian 4 года назад

I'm not sure whether this falls into the Woodworking for Humans concept, but you can pick up a plier-type saw set on Amazon for less than $20. Mine needed a bit of tweak of the "hammer" bit to narrow it for fine teeth. Sometimes you can find old . Then it's a matter of practice to get the set you want. The trick that Rex shows of using sharpening stone to remove the burr can also be used to correct excess set one stroke each side until you get the set you want. You can also correct a saw that insists on curving to one side with the stone. Teeth on the side the saw turns toward as you cut may be slightly over set so you lightly run the stone along that side once, test cut, rinse and repeat until the cut is straight.

@elfranwatson8522 4 года назад

Standard copy paper runs about .004" thick, which is a pretty useful general amount of set. For teeth that are overset, as most are, you can fold a sheet of paper over the toothline and clamp it in a mechanic's vise, or between two flat steel surfaces. The tips poke through and the paper gauges a nice consistent set and then you can polish the teeth with a stone.

@kirkwilliams5740 4 года назад

Sir Krueger I like the way you takes pride in what you are doing, I full joy your videos, thanks for taken the time to put out these dynamic videos together, I'm from the old school by way of my early training, in spite of the technology of power tools that I now use , had I not learnt the as you do I would not know how get myself out of some difficult areas in the Carpentry ,you certainly brings back memories , Continues to do what you are doing to help others , your skills is exceptional.blessings

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Thank you kindly!

@nafs53 3 года назад

I was looking online at Crown + S&J tools just other day and trying to find some that were NOT manufactured in China. Some gardening tools were UK/European but the woodworking ones I'm not sure about. Manufacturers should make it clear the country of origin and not hide it away. Great video, so subbed 👍

@מעייןהמלבלבתחייםםםם 4 года назад

Thanks for everything!! Your videos always helpful, practical and very enjoyable, because of your videos i have started using hand tools and I'm still in a learning curve. I'm know building the joiter bench... Thanks again for all the time that you are putting into the video and teaching!

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Man, I'm still in the learning curve!

@jeremywatson3882 3 года назад

Rex this is a fantastic insight a to how to elevate the level of an average tool into a great tool. Well done and thank you for your guidance.

@markkernen322 2 года назад

Hi Rex. I got a S&J saw for Christmas this year and I had to adjust the saw set as well. They seem to set these saws too wide. After trying your trick to take out some saw set it worked like a charm. My set ended up as 0.035 all along the length of the blade and it's beautiful to use now. I just have to work on the handle now. Thanks.

@kevinxxx8093 3 года назад

DAY-um! I love your attitude and thought process. I look forward to becoming a patron. Just another month, I hope.

@selfsameday7448 2 года назад

Very helpful tips to manage the saw teeth from jagged cuts!

@AtAtFB Год назад

Found you during (ovid! Shop was quiet this summer, but ready for a cool garage (and lower humidity) and finally learning dovetails for some Christmas gifts. Thanks for the content, wish i could send you $$ here in da'tube.

@terrystewart2034 4 года назад

Rex, I'm sure you are more than a little accustomed to viewers telling you that you are AWESOME. So I want to offer a different observation. The problem is that you are indeed Awesome and that covers it quite well. Thank you for the boatload of information you provide for all of us guys who can only seem like wannabes next to you. And just as importantly, thank you for that great sense of humor that makes your channel not just good information, but good entertainment as well.

@wendellstroup8404 4 года назад

Bravo! I have been following this channel for a while and it has turned out to be an awesome channel for beginners....

@hmmmm9821 4 года назад

Great video I love the improvements you could buff up the brass back and the plate and improve it even more

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

I was thinking that, too...after I finished the video.

@steh8217 3 года назад

Just done this mod to a vintage S & J saw, the handle in particular feels soo much better!! Brilliant video!

@trevordecker4872 2 года назад

Thanks Rex. It fits both saws in your description on the template.

@perfectworldpat7053 Год назад

Thanks for all the great info and the template. Can't wait to get to work on my old saws. Will be buying some plans soon. Your channel is my favorite. Thanks again.

@joelzinnecker5451 Год назад

Love this! It was nice of them to give you enough wood to make a nice handle.

@jons2447 Год назад

"THANK YOU!", Mr. Krueger! Deeply and sincerely appreciated! I prolly won't spend the money this costs (on disability) but your insight is invaluable. I'll try to 'catch-up' when I can. I just cut my first dovetail in the end of a 2x10 for my shave horse I've started. I started w/ an old cross-cut saw (it didn't cut good) so then I tried a cheap & short 'combo' saw, (also didn't cut good) so I finished w/ a folding camping saw. At least I gotter' done 'by hand'. I'm trying to make a movable joint between the platform & the beam. Instead of a metal eyebolt I want to try 2 dovetail sockets facing away from each other w/ a 3rd piece as both pins. The 3rd piece should look sorta' like a V over A; \/ /\ I hope to use a taper on the double pins to give it enough movement. If it don't work I'll drill 2 holes close together at a v-angle in the platform so they cross at the bottom. Then set a dowel at an angle to make the old wobbling pin for a wiggling hole joint. Two holes (viewed from the side) crossing & cut out the wood between them for a v-shaped hole to let the platform tilt up or down over the quoin. If you see this I'd appreciate your response, well, "if". Thank you for all you do. Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

@prospero768 4 года назад

For those who like the slicker look and feel of the Veritas saw handle more than this traditional one, the company has complete plans and template for making one available on their website. I was able to use it to put these handles on a big framesaw I built using the Blackburn Tools frame saw blade. assets.leevalley.com/Original/10090/56664-veritas-dovetail-saw-handle-c-03-e.pdf

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Thank you!

@rokkirenttu 4 года назад

I'm currently setting up a tiny workshop and just the other day I was thinking what kind of saw I should get. Was checking Amazon and this S&J came up, did not buy it yet tough. Now I know it could be right for me. Thanks for this perfectly timed video.

@RexKrueger 4 года назад

Hope you enjoy it!

@JoeBob79569 4 года назад

I picked up a vintage S&J tenon on eBay last night for €10. It looks exactly like this one, except it doesn't have that slight curve on the bottom of the handle, and it has proper flat head nuts so the handle is probably removable. Hopefully this is an indication of a time when more effort was put into making tools. Looking forward to giving it a bit of a cleanup.

@Kareszkoma 4 года назад

Holly molly! It really does eat the wood like butter! That is a lot of material removed. Is that all because of sharpening and set aligning? Amazing.

@theenglishman9596 4 года назад

Another Rex special, a top notch job Rex, I learnt a lot, now I will upgrade my 2 tenons.

@danceswithaardvarks3284 4 года назад

That's great thanks. I picked up a couple of S&J backsaws that had been thrown away a couple of years ago. Couldn't get on with them so they have sat on a shelf ever since. They will be getting the upgrade so thanks for sharing.

@MysteryProductsLtd 4 года назад

Amazing tips! This guy is a genius! I just watched the plane restoring video too and I am bowled over by Rex's knowledge, skill and teaching ability.

@mm9773 4 года назад

I bought this saw a few years ago, and I bought a Ryoba and a small Dozuki at the same time - I’ve almost exclusively used the Japanese saws since. I sometimes use the Spear & Jackson as a “normal” handsaw for crosscuts, that’s it. I would like to try a really good Western tenon saw at some point, but I doubt it would make me happier than the Japanese ones.