I had two original stainless steel ones with the crown stamps on them, I bought them for £12 each from military mart about 12 years ago, I recently sold them for £96 each on eBay, they are getting more rare by the day for genuine surplus ones, so the best idea is to by a different cook system. I had the same email and laughed when I seen the price, but wasn't surprised, the same company is going beyond a joke for the things they sell, really ridiculously priced.
There WAS a time when surplus was cheap as chips. I actually remember going with my Dad to actual surplus STORES ! Here in the states those are almost extinct. Yes we do have some good online places. But it's nice to be able to see & hold (or try on) before you buy. Now however, surplus is what everyone is going for, to with increase of demand goes increase in price...
Good Morning Neil .. 👍👍👍 .. Spot on and well worth the thumbs' ups. Everyone is out to make a buck and often pricing is set 'at what the market is prepared to tolerate'. With 72 Summers under the belt, I look at current 'Advertising' shrieking at me what I 'must have or else' with a somewhat jaundiced eyeball 😏. I made, over 10 years ago, SS 'Tea Caddy / Sugar, etc' Pots and 'Fancee Feast' Stove Cook Sets (just like yours) for my two kids, the house and myself. They're still going strong. Yes, it cost me a bit more as the Pots were 'negotiated' with the 'Good Lady of the House' (she was prepared to accept a new glass set in exchange 😊). Keep them coming please Neil. Using home-made kit gives one a satisfaction out of all proportion to the trouble taken to do so. Take care ..
some people take a stationery hole punch and put 2 holes in the upper part of the tomato can because it was originally feared that a vacuum would be created between can and pot
I make similar burners using paper towel as the wick, just make sure its tucked below the level of the outer can. I have also just filled both cans with sand which is pretty easy to come by here in Florida but play and builders sand works fine.. If you add a little table salt to the fuel it will be a more visible yellow, I use a salt substitute because of my diet, it turns the flame purple
The use of sand & an old cut down petrol can was popular in the desert fighting during WW2 with British troops, except they used petrol not meths, even in the desert you need a cup of tea.
@@baronedipiemonte3990 there are lots of things that will add color to the flames w/o adding much weight.. for the stove you need bigger V's at the bottom or a series of holes, fill the larger can with sand and push the smaller one down into it or just use a can of sand and a pot stand
70.72 pounds for the one from pathfinder but I don't know about shipping. It is still more than I am willing to pay for that type of cook set, especially since it won't fit properly into my haversack. I am still working out the details but I am pretty sure I am going to try a home made set next since I can't see to find one that actually works for me. Great work Neil, thanks for all you do.
Just come across your site mate. Some of the best bushcraft content on youtube IMHO. Freind of mine calls it "catching the angler." They dont sell new fishing tackle to catch fish but catch the angler! Ive fell into the trap too lol
Great video. £114 is ridiculous for that type of cook set. You can buy a Trangia 27 with all the bits and stove for half that price. The home made free cat tin burners are brilliant. I have made lots over the years and experimend with different size cans. All work brilliantly. I always have one in the bottom of my bag for a quick brew on day walks. I also use a small nail varnish remover bottle for the fuel that fits perfectly inside the top of the burner. Great bit of kit.
I recently bought a NASA approved titanium cooking set as used on the moon, with laser etch patterns to match my sleeve tattoos It automatically uploads photos of anything you cook to Instagram but since I only order from Uber Eats I haven't used it yet only cost me $950 Result !
Love a good rant. As another commenter had posted, I think the UK gets a marked up cost. In the US, they are $79. I love to make my own stuff too, but everyone doesn’t have the skills that you or I do and might just want the convenience of buying a historically amazing piece of gear. Those might be available easily “over there”, but you can’t find a used one here. If you think about what Pathfinder has done as a business, they’ve made good outdoor gear and raised interest in bushcraft. I love your channel and I like Pathfinder stuff. In the famous words of Rodney King “Can’t we all just get along?”
Thanks, today i made exactly same but abit bigger. Flame is very strong and can easily cook on it. Mine is from tuna can and polish spam can, spam can is made from steel. I used mineral wool with specs of holding very high temps used for roofs. Really amzing idea, thanks Neil, stay safe :)
Thanks Neil, for another useful, and informative video. The cat-tin stove is a very useful bit of kit. have made a couple, using the slightly larger " Vienna Sausages" tin. The sausages tin holds a few more mils of meth-spirits, and will burn for a substantially longer period. Keep up the useful & enjoyable videos .. Cheers.
Been using thrift store canisters as my pot for years. I have one that was from some coffee(?) maker or mixing set(?) that is a pretty perfect one liter size with graduated marks. Great pot for $3.
Nothing like a cat can stove for cheap and easy. I made one from a tuna can and stuff as well. I like using a welder's heat mat instead of insulation, it's the only thing that would cost extra if I didn't already have some.
G'day Neil. Thank you for another great video. I am guessing you are talking about the new Pathfinder Shop stainless steel reproduction of the Swedish M40 cook set. I actually like it and if you have the money, knock yourself out. As for the original Swedish cook set, I believe they were made from Aluminium before and after WWII. During WWII they changed to stainless because Aluminium was needed for manufacturing aircraft. I could be completely wrong, that is information that I got from another RU-vid channel, but it sounds plausible to me. Thanks again.
I'm still laughing..I bet your private rant was in the same language as mine when I saw that shiney ' Must have kit.' and the price... Your public video rant and stove making demo was as well presented as ever though, so keep up the good work.🤣👍
With a Trangia burner you can use the simmer ring to extinguish the flame. But I've seen it fail for various reasons (misaligned when dropped on, it already being used so it's too hot to handle, etc.). With these 'cat can stoves' there isn't really a way to fully extinguish them, letting them burn out is best. That way all the meths/alcohol is consumed and won't dribble out once packed away. It seems like a waste and a bit of a pain to wait, but you get quite good at estimating the volume of meths required.
Hi Neil, fairly new to your channel, and loving it..! Re the glass fibre wool you use in your stoves, I'm guessing that's because of the fire retardant aspect, Rock wool not good to use...? Is that right? Many thanks Si The Cosmic Camper!!!
this'll be the pathfinder copy of the Swedish M40 I know importers have to pay duty etc but this kit Retails in US for $79.95 that's a big mark up to £114
Dear Neil, dear reader, i was on the lookout for some glass- or stonewool when the Mrs told me that those were like asbestos and that she doesn't want any of it in the house, let alone near the kids. Could you kindly give a suggestion for a replacement-material? best regards, ben
I would imagine that you would get used to the amount of fuel used to boil water etc, as unlike the trangia you can't just put the lid on and take with. I've made one of those in the past, I also have made a similar idea with a paraffin lamp wick. I had awick in a box and the original lamp died a while back.
Vienna Sausage Can and Tomato Can is Easiest to make .. add toilet paper and drill couples holes , dont need measure or cuts .. Take me 2 mins .. Done !
I must agree. I have seen products from the said company and had to shake my head. It seems like the company is only trying to get your money to make you a "cool kid" in bushcraft. The efficiency and practicality of some of the products are questionable in my opinion.
The cat can burner is everything you say it is and deserves to be compared to another burner.... The M40 is not a burner.. When compared to its counterparts it is superior and well worth it...
Nice build. I would only say to use gloves when handling insulation containing fiberglass. Fiberglass is a skin irritant, and if any, even the most microscopic amount gets in your eyes... I've been making a similar disposable "field stove" using tuna/chicken cans and wound up cardboard impregnated with candle wax (same principal as the Vaseline coated cotton balls for fire kits).
Far too many greedy folks out there. The most annoying are those that put forth the persona of the "common man" but price their kit beyond the reach of the average person without causing hardship.
I work in the water industry and there is a difference in stainless steel. Be very wary of just picking up any stainless steel for cooking or boiling water and thinking it's perfectly fine. Storage Stainless does not have to meet the metals leaching standards of items made for drinking, boiling and cooking. You could be ingesting heavy metals in every drink from your canteen, the meal you fix and metals do not leave your body, brain or organs. Just a heads up. Spend a little on a "reputable"canteen MAKER, like Klean Kanteen not sellers like path finder Chinese junk stainless steel. Not all stainless is the same and has it's applications for an intended purpose. If your stainless cannot be confirmed as to the composition such as 18/8 Stainless Steel construction, don't purchase it nor use it for boiling or drinking water storage. It's for your safety. Do your own research, saving a few bucks on a tea container could be adding significant amounts of heavy metals to your body and you wouldn't even know it until it's too late. Every fitting we use in our water treatment department must meet NSF and EPA approvals. Wouldn't you want your cookware to be the same?
I would agree with your observations for continued, multiple daily use. However, for survival situations, or the occasional camping trip I don't see the problem. I don't scoff at reasonable health and safety precautions, but there's always someone saying that something will kill you.
@@baronedipiemonte3990 👍 .. good point. I'm 72 years of age and have been using 'stuff that could possibly ruin my health or worse' .. aluminium 😳 and such since day one. Considering my current state of health, should my lifespan have been reduced appreciably as a result of this misspent history .. ok.
@@thomasmusso1147 Exactly. Take a look at just about anything you pick up, and it has the "California Proposition 25 Warning" on it. No, I wouldn't use "mystery metal" 3-4 times a day 365 to cook for my family, but for a survival, or even a week long camping trip is not going to riddle you with cancer or whatever. There's caution and then there's paranoia. Regards Sir
