Making Art with Distortion Goggles - 10 Minute Power Hour

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@ericpeterson6520 2 года назад

There's definitely a Game Grumps employee out there who gets paid to wander around dollar stores in LA trying to find the most bullshit toys for these grown men to play with and I both envy that person and thank them for their service

@briangruenewald7536 2 года назад

Women, thank you for your cervix

@Venti.the.bard.613 2 года назад

It’s ally

@wesleypatterson2284 2 года назад

Damn, LA must have some nice dollar stores. The dollar stores here in Georgia typically dont even have toys, and if they do it's just like those plastic spider rings they have at chuck-e-cheese and stuff..

@dcross0616 2 года назад

It’s probably Arin, months ago, who genuinely forgot he purchased any of these things.

@LaceNWhisky 2 года назад

Used to be Ryan's job. Then he killed a man and took his shoes.

@RiriRuruu 2 года назад

I love how Arin broke the chair and he wasn't even wearing the goggles. That's impressive.

@resileaf9501 2 года назад

You don't need goggles to break a chair with your weight.

@konversion 2 года назад

I'm glad he wasn't wearing them because the look on his face was amazing as he toppled and the goggles would've blocked it 😂

@Omnomnomfish 2 года назад

@@resileaf9501 I mean im pretty sure it was the way he was sitting on it, chairs don't really break from peoples weight alone

@resileaf9501 2 года назад

@@Omnomnomfish It's a chair he has stated in the past was about to break and he's been hoping it would do so on camera. I mean, there's a reason Dan is so happy about it.

@Scrofar 2 года назад

Classic Arin!

@TH3RM4L 2 года назад

ngl, I want a 10mph that is just them doing an activity. No werid gimmicks, no chaos, just some subtle tones throughout the entire video that Arin is going to snap at any moment and kill someone

@SaraBanartist 2 года назад

I guess that was the Painting Over Paintings episode...

@Valkyrie2421 2 года назад

Or their first episode where they put Lego vehicles together

@milkinz 2 года назад

Y e s

@LaceNWhisky 2 года назад

The mini golf episode was like that. Sorta.

@priinglescafe9685 2 года назад

that's called Any 10mph Episode Ever

@abunchofworms Год назад

For anyone who doesn't know- the goggles Arin starts with completely flips your sight upside down, while the ones Dan starts with shift your vision like 45° to the left. I had to use these in psychology- it's actually really interesting how it totally fucks with your perception. We had people with the 45° shift goggles toss a ball back and forth with someone (who does not have goggles) until they're used to it. Then, they were told to take the goggles off and throw the ball, and almost everyone ended up throwing it slightly to the left, since their brain was still trying to compromise for the reality shift.

@lotashiana Год назад

very interesting ty scott the window guy ur very cool

@pokaay3163 Год назад

Woah cool

@BaconRage98 2 года назад

Flashback to Arin saying 'One day it's gonna break on camera and it'll be hilarious' The day has come

@resileaf9501 2 года назад

A momentous occasion indeed!

@maryroyale 2 года назад

which vid was that?

@dalehadley3283 2 года назад

I love how it broke when he wasn't even doing anything,it just gave up xD

@BaconRage98 2 года назад

@@maryroyale I think it was in the first Mario maker, no clue what episode

@PinkCat123 2 года назад

Arin: No, Dan! We can't swear! Also Arin: You look like a fucking doofus!

@ericpeterson6520 2 года назад

No joke, I read this comment and my first thought was "doofus isn't a swear word though, what are you talking about"

@Soulsworth69 2 года назад

I know it's not all too big a deal [well I mean censorship is bad imo] but I dearly miss the 10MPH's where they didn't have to charge money for the uncensored version of the video.

@NWolfsson 2 года назад

Piss Balls in the background: Deal with it.

@melvinest 2 года назад

@@Soulsworth69 I don't mind them censoring the swears, I just don't like them actively avoiding swearing, just keep being yourselves and uncensor it on patreon.

@loonifer888 2 года назад

Also like 9 seconds after he said Dan couldn't swear he said "what the hell"

@thilokobs9184 2 года назад

Dan: "Can I see it?" Arin: hands Dan the furry artwork Dan: "... _oh~_ ..."

@domross-o9670 Год назад

That was my reaction too.

@joeyb7408 2 года назад

So i just noticed the ring on Dan's hand....congrats to Danny And Arin. So proud of them, they will be happy together.

@Beeimus 2 года назад

I like that they’re both married men now. With the rings, people who’ve never seen them could assume they’re married to each other. Which isn’t completely wrong.

@sollusmarkis5463 2 года назад

I mean it's still my head-cannon

@gigoe 2 года назад

wait what !! i haven't watched them in a while what happened?

@jerodwolford2743 2 года назад

Wait Dan got married? That's fucking awesome

@wyntersapphire 2 года назад

@@gigoe danny married ashley!! :)

@missmarymack06 2 года назад

I knew they were headed that way, Ashley and Dan but didnt know when! Love it!😍

@hopsfy 2 года назад

Dan gasping as their hands accidentally touched for a brief moment 💀 it's beautiful to see they still find ways to rekindle their love, despite how unprotected these hatless dinos are from the impending acid rain _plink!_

@rn4796 2 года назад

i just watched that episode last night omg!!! 😂

@bernadettebread 2 года назад

🎩 oh no! this comment isn’t wearing a hat! edit: that was a close one!

@khanf8446 Год назад

So cute Beautiful

@pokaay3163 Год назад

🎩 Omg I remember that episode lol

@gremlinman9724 Год назад

plink

@maddymceleney358 2 года назад

I love that they blurred Arin's feet when he fell off the chair. Gotta keep this channel CLEAN

@morgankrajewski9321 2 года назад

Product name: color-by-number Dan: Dan: Dan: Dan: “oh, the colors were numbered”

@DeathnoteBB Год назад

Dan pulls an Arin

@shoocharu 2 года назад

While I did enjoy this episode, I'd really like to ask you not to put a 4 frame close up of Arin's toes inside Dan's ear ever again. It threw me off, and my kids got scared, okay?

@shemfalah 2 года назад

I think you meant "sweet tootsies"

@Dr.Rockhard 2 года назад

Sounds like *somebody* doesn’t appreciate Arin’s tootsies.

@shut7565 2 года назад

Oh that's definitely going to wikifeet, right there.

@DrAustinSauce 2 года назад

I lovingly disagree. We need such liberal artistry to complete the overarching timeline.

@CORK7397 2 года назад

Time stamp?

@leviallen7210 2 года назад

Arin blinking upside-down through the goggles truly sent me 😂

@spectorpepper7555 2 года назад

The perfect mix of unsettling and hilarious

@ryanne.5172 2 года назад

@@TheRealBatabii some laughter

@ithinkmycatsdead 2 года назад

@@TheRealBatabii to the depths

@gonetopluto3461 2 года назад

I cant figure out how to find those goggles to buy D: i rlly want them LOL

@JCvgluvr 2 года назад

Time stamp?

@NathanTheMan 2 года назад

Whenever Dan says, “That actually sounds really fun!” it just means that they haven’t given them all of the video supplies yet.

@ntgm8 2 года назад

This kinda feels like season 5 of The Eric Andre Show. Everything's happening way faster, yet each episode is almost the same length.

@Nebuloid1 2 года назад

Nice one matey

@twerkules3957 2 года назад

Is nobody gonna talk about the fact that Arin is wearing a flasher coat?

@WildWestRaider 2 года назад

That's Arin's uncle Dr. Cecil H.H. Mills' flasher coat.

@MARKOoo 2 года назад

I was wondering why nobody in the comments mentioned that lol

@MARKOoo 2 года назад

@@WildWestRaider uh huh uh huh uh huh

@DisAnimated 2 года назад

with him stumbling around when he stood up he looked like he was a two kids in a trenchcoat bit.

@WildWestRaider 2 года назад

@@MARKOoo Que Paso es coat??

@Squisshy 2 года назад

This is the last Game Grumps 10MPH I will watch before I graduate, and go to college. Been amazing to watch through high-school.

@Balend 2 года назад

Good luck!

@maddierojas4261 2 года назад

Congratulations on finishing high school! It’s quite the accomplishment, especially considering all we’ve been through the last couple years. I just graduated college myself, so let me wish you luck and pray these next few years are easier for you than they were for me. You got this!

@Squisshy 2 года назад

@@maddierojas4261 Thank you, and congratulations on finishing College.

@passthepomegranate 2 года назад

Same for me! Good luck on your journey

@Diaval7711 2 года назад

Me too :D Good luck! May college treat you well

@XSaffie_LoveX 2 года назад

Game grumps infinite wisdom: "Gravity decide floor and ceiling." That it does. That it does.

@AnnLiesArtist 2 года назад

Or is it “ceiling and floor decide gravity?” We must ponder the reversals.

@anonymousskunk3283 2 года назад

Something about Dan calling Arin his special little man whist hugging him made me so warm and happy

@poutinedavid8937 2 года назад

*Switch goggles* Dan: NOOOO! You've been doing THIS!? Arin: Oh this is way easier

@DeathnoteBB Год назад

It’s like living in someone else’s shoes

@DiscoSamurai 2 года назад

6:27 Arin: "oh, it's furry art". Dan: "why would anyone like that?" *awkward silence*.

@resileaf9501 2 года назад

Meanwhile Allie: "It's hot."

@spacesquid95force25 2 года назад

*slow zoom in on Dan

@tecgoku3200 2 года назад

I do Dan. I do.

@NebraskaHuskers100 Год назад

Was looking for this comment 😂😂😂😂 it got me

@organicleaf Год назад

the internet was a mistake and we all should feel bad, that these types of people are alive

@TimeBucks 2 года назад

Epic gamer moment

@jember258 2 года назад

what game is this looks fun

@LUISMANUEL-hx5ce Год назад

cool

@Sagar_shrivas Год назад

Best

@soilammirza9198 Год назад

Good

@seththeawesome3366 2 года назад

Love the lore of “Arin’s been trying to break this chair for years”

@inkyisdreaming 2 года назад

I’d like to see them try weird popsicle flavors

@nashvontookus7451 2 года назад

Homemade? Because I want them to make pickle juice ones

@jocomfiresin6982 2 года назад

This... Sounds weirdly homoerotic... Can we use vaguely dick shape molds? Call em banana molds and move on but we know what it'll really be...

@inkyisdreaming 2 года назад

@@nashvontookus7451 definitely homemade. Maybe they make them, maybe Allie does. Maybe it’s kinda like the Keurig episode and they just throw together random shit. I don’t know.

@pattykakes1076 2 года назад

Is this a thing?! I too wish to experience this

@nashvontookus7451 2 года назад

@@pattykakes1076 Homemade popsicles? You can get a kit from a grocery store during the summer, or a superstore really anytime

@elsiebartlett6808 2 года назад

Omg I can’t believe we were graced with the one where Arin broke the chair! Great job Arin! Epic gamer moment!

@calebeggert984 2 года назад

Arin's upside down blink at 4:54 made me actually soil my garments

@whyisyoutubeusinghandles 2 года назад

Holy FUCK

@AngelWingsYT 3 месяца назад

Oh why did i go back to look that is SO unsettling

@monpetitchouxpastry Год назад

3:15 “are you proud of your SON???” always has me crying laughing 😭😭😭😭😭

@TheJshox 2 года назад

I remember wearing goggles like these back in high school. I think it was to show possible effects of possible brain damage if you get into a car accident from driving drunk. They also made us button shirts without using our hands, which was... interesting.

@89Crono 2 года назад

Fun thing about goggles like these. If you wear them long enough your brain will eventually correct the image for you. So if the goggles flip everything upsidedown, eventually the image will flip right side up for you.

@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix 2 года назад

@@89Crono And then you take them off and everything’s fucked again

@mayvalley 2 года назад

@@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix nah once you take them off you’ll be able to go back to normal pretty quickly. They did some experiments testing this exact thing!

@zumzum74 2 года назад

Did you have to try to pick up Fruit Loops and shit with thick ass tubesocks over your hand to simulate nerve damage and not being able to use your fingers? That was a fucking weird one

@emilyh7971 Год назад

My 10th grade drivers ed teacher had us wear these goggles, spin around a bunch, and then try to walk along a straight line to simulate a roadside sobriety test. I was giggling the whole time and my teacher said “what, are you a professional drunk?”

@djtaitai 2 года назад

(Arin falls out of the chair and breaks it) Dan: *rejoice! this is a momentous occasion! Hazah!*

@xaviergrimord 2 года назад

9:04 Arin: *casually points to where the eye should go* Dan: *Discombobulated*

@papa.scabby 2 года назад

I am obsessed with the fact that every single episode looks like two kids making an absolute mess But in fact they are adults making an absolute mess, and I'm always here for it

@carlwheezerofsouls3273 2 года назад

they’re both adults and one of them HAS kids, so in reality we’re not too far off from watching a toddler smash play-dough to bits

@DishonoredRat Год назад

@Carl, Wheezer of souls neither have kids my man

@papa.scabby Год назад

@@DishonoredRat I misread this as "never have my kids, man" I hate my dyslexia

@EldritchDoodler4828 2 года назад

6:45 … “O h ~”

@NamelessFacelessWhoa Год назад

1:55 The auto-generated captions recognized the word “smegmasaurus”

@Peachy_Edits Год назад

When they found each other's hands, even I got the goosebumps... It's so beautiful when elderly married couples find each other after they lose their vision

@s.t.scoops2810 Год назад

This is the funniest power hour yet, what really got me was "I can't hear my own thoughts because I hear the other man's thoughts". Saying things weird is the peak of comedy and no one can change my mind

@crapholeyeahthatsme 2 года назад

Dan getting frustrated at 2:48 absolutely killed me

@TheMultiGamerOfficial 2 года назад

I love how even though he's frustrated, he's still really calm and polite about it

@DeathnoteBB Год назад

@@TheMultiGamerOfficial “Get out of the shot, ‘PLEASE’”

@yuzusodamachine 2 года назад

Arin has finally broken a chair, his prophecy has been fulfilled

@marfur9 2 года назад

THE chair

@buckdouglas9559 2 года назад

5:19 When you walk into an air conditioned store from outside when its 100 degrees.

@Harotham 2 года назад

As someone who doesn't experience days, I'm grateful for Arin being so inclusive

@cambionkid Год назад

THE CENSORED TOES AT 13:01 I’M GONNA CRY

@regularguy305 2 года назад

Why does Arin look like he's about to flash me, and why am I ok with it?

@A2Z83 2 года назад

Bonk

@salty_slug 2 года назад

I think it is related to the starting bit

@justgorilla_ 2 года назад

2:55 Arin and Dan holds hands. Ship has Sailed.

@reagansido5823 2 года назад

"dude this is WAY easier!" "do it, do it then. do it without setting off the thing." "ok, ok, horse time!" (sounds of extreme vibration)

@mattiass.6571 2 года назад

I love this furry acceptance arc of Game Grumps. First the Pokemon smash or pass, then Furry Feet, now 6:51 an empassioned "Furry art is the highest form of art!"

@resileaf9501 2 года назад

It's true, name a type of artist more dedicated to their craft than furry artists.

@Xarazel 2 года назад

the lengths theyll go to just to appease you degenerates

@fireblade295 2 года назад

Only true form of art, are cat-girls, dog-girls, dragon-girls, harpies, wolf-girls, angels, and demon-girls. Why? Human body, animal ears and tails. Wings when applicable. Even better, a real life girl could hide her human ears, wear a high quality headband for ears, and a tail. Wings when its applicable. No need for a weird fully body suit.

@robertperlaky8849 2 года назад

Get ready for an upcoming 10MPH where they go to a furry convention.

@mattiass.6571 2 года назад

@@robertperlaky8849 You know what? That sounds extremely plausible

@Demidar Год назад

5:38 Vibrator in the boardgame : " *BRR BrepP DrrRr* " Arin: "i can do it ! Dude these are way easier"

@sirgallant7144 2 года назад

Telling game grumps they can't swear is like telling Micheal Jackson he can't grab his crotch and go "hehe"

@wildfirefox1 Год назад

I mean...technically Michael Jackson can't do either of those things

@mexapollo9948 2 года назад

3:15 The echo killed me! 🤣

@carlinianam0s 2 года назад

12:19 the cursed creature under Arin's left arm will watch you while you sleep tonight

@cobalttj6356 2 года назад

0:59 wow Arin sounded EXACTLY like Mario laughing at Mama Luigi from the Mario World show

@celestejessop9818 2 года назад

Didnt realize Dan and Ashley finally tied the knot, so awesome!

@internettevarolanadam 2 года назад

8:19 that's a threatening stance

@normal-potato05 2 года назад

The title’s like when Doctors don’t want you to know this simple trick, a trick that gets you 7 viruses on your computer

@Greendogblue 2 года назад

yeah thats the joke

@normal-potato05 2 года назад

@@Greendogblue oh ik

@bestdayoftheweek4921 2 года назад

havin the worst monday of my life, grumps always comin in clutch. luv y'all!

@sollusmarkis5463 2 года назад

Hope your day gets better, stranger

@dirtburger2773 2 года назад

May tomorrow be kinder to you

@Venomonomonom 2 года назад

I'm gonna give you all my money

@bestdayoftheweek4921 2 года назад

@@sollusmarkis5463 it did! thank u for ur kind words

@bestdayoftheweek4921 2 года назад

@@dirtburger2773 i appreciate it

@mrsmaggiekoch 2 года назад

Hi grumps. I have had a lot of medical problems and am not doing so well. I'm dealing with doctor's appointments, medication, and trying to take care of myself. But this just put a genuine smile on my face. You guys are great.

@TheVoicedFlame 2 года назад

arin spontaneously destroying a chair is going to be the highlight of my day

@hostilepacifist275 2 года назад

Can confirm, I'm an artist and this is forbidden information

@wobblewokgaming655 2 года назад

I wanna see them do their own version of Ten Shots, Ten Bots.

@WatsonDynamite 2 года назад

holy shit a Thew reference in a Grumps video?

@wobblewokgaming655 2 года назад

@@WatsonDynamite You wanna hear another Transformers Reviewer reference? *SWIVEL HERE*

@CoronaTheFatCat 2 года назад

*Arin:* "Which dinosaur do you want?" *Dan:* "The _Smegmasaurus."_ 💀💀💀

@RCBackstaber 2 года назад

9:29 Now this is just Delightful

@nonbunnery 2 года назад

arin looks like a detective on his day off

@JackaldaJester 2 года назад

When Arin said "This is also how I would interact with pastrami if it were in front of me", I felt that.

@austynkozak4073 2 года назад

12:32 he’s beginning to believe

@SprinklesServant Год назад

Arin: It's furry art. Dan: Why would anyone like that? *Camera zooms in on Dan*

@dvdjhp 2 года назад

It seems arin's descent into madness is at it's peak

@ericwheelhouse4371 2 года назад

13:16 “gravity decide floor and celing” Oof so close

@KelseyGoesKaBoom 2 года назад

...Why is Arin wearing a trench coat? I feel like there's a story...

@SirVennie 2 года назад

@Frogger and he's right

@hopelesslydull7588 2 года назад

"I need to stop wearing clothes I like to 10mph" -Arnold Handsome

@xenodrone3367 2 года назад

Can't believe they finally tied the knot after years of arin dropping not so subtle hints

@katzandcream 2 года назад

LMAO I like how they blurred out Arins feet when he fell 😆

@22kaybee22 2 года назад

This made me realize that he had shoes on in the intro and they disappeared

@LaceNWhisky 2 года назад

@@22kaybee22 Looks like they were flip-flops. Real easy to kick off when he's flailing around.

@micromoron 2 года назад

Literally "clay by numbers" Dan AFTER finishing "Oh the clay has numbers"

@crispycrunch9971 2 года назад

Not only did I get that parody at the end, Arin, I was expecting exactly that when you said "The 10 MPH was made possible." I love your humor!

@Stank64 2 года назад

not even a minute in and Arin finally has a joker style mental collapse. looking forward to this one

@indiadraz2642 2 года назад

woke up just in time for this masterpiece. hopefully dan finally learns how to draw!! lord knows he wanted to put in the time :)

@gamernamedleo2314 2 года назад

Best part is at 12:55 in my opinion!

@It_Is_The_Me Год назад

I was at the tour in seattle. I loved the C.) Attle joke. When you were asking for 3 different words I so desperately wanted to call out "my karuba"

@P1K3L 2 года назад

Arin looks like he's about to sell drugs out behind the cvs

@Auayatim 2 года назад

7:17 "Grant us eyes" -Mikolash, host of the nightmare

@sp8cey 2 года назад

4:27 ICONIC

@DaniJHollis Год назад

Dan's Smegmasaurus was so perfect & it caught me so off guard

@brokenkittyy 2 года назад

Not gonna lie, I miss the swearing in 10MPH, doesn't feel the same without it. Also feels oddly rushed?

@DeathnoteBB Год назад

The editing sped up since last season

@L33PL4Y Год назад

Yeah, Patreon should never take anything away from the main channel, it should only ever add new content. Locking swearing behind a fucking paywall is so mercenary and cynical that I'm actually insulted by them thinking they need to stoop so low to get my money. It's pathetic and shows a lack of confidence in their ability to provide anything of legitimate worth through their Patreon. I've been a GG fan since year one and this genuinely makes me lose respect for them as creators.

@DeathnoteBB Год назад

@@L33PL4Y Bruh they probably just know it’s less likely to stay monetized with swearing, so they just cut swearing for the free content. Collegehumor did the same thing before it went fully to Dropout. Blame RU-vid.

@L33PL4Y Год назад

@@DeathnoteBB Not even close to true. If GG can stay uncensored after the first minute there's no reason this has to be. It's a fucking moneygrab and nothing more.

@L33PL4Y Год назад

@the tiniest rampage If that was happening they wouldn't be able to swear on GG. The entire first season of Power Hour is uncensored and monetized. You're wrong. They want to swear but are holding it back for Patreon.

@way2dead4u 3 месяца назад

every time they look at the camera with the orange goggles, all I hear is Mark screaming "THUMBNAIL??"

@Alabaster1223 8 месяцев назад

11:56 "what are you doing please" is so funny every time

@thelawyer7615 2 года назад

A new episode of my favourite podcast, 10 miles per hour!

@pragmat1k 2 года назад

Holy crap, this was such a phenomenal episode.

@lone.serval Год назад

"no, furry art is the highest form of art!" really did it for me 6:47

@adorimable9690 2 года назад

Dan's goggles make him look like a muppet (non-derogatorily)

@kimarycarlson93 2 года назад

Always the best part of my week!! Another disaster that fills me with so much joy 😊😊

@dudebrogames Год назад

Arin: “you can’t swear on this show.” Arin, literally 2 seconds later: “what the hell?!”

@DeathnoteBB Год назад

I swear Dan said fuck during the part where he leaves the room

@babydoll4135 2 года назад

My dog stepped on a bee 0:05

@EdinMike 2 года назад

How funny is it I got 11 minutes into this and realised Arins jacket is awful… And yet I want it…

@carlwheezerofsouls3273 2 года назад

it unironically looks like it was ordered off of Wish, it looks like he pulled that out of a tiny plastic bag and put it on, didnt even un-crumple it.

@isaiahprost6361 Год назад

I watched the whole thing and never realized it until i read the comments LMAO

@Cosmic1900 2 года назад

why the heck is Arin dressed like inspector gadget?

@AV524 2 года назад

6:39 Okay DAMNNN?! Who is heeeeeee???

@monkeybrain0212 2 года назад

Am I the only one crying laughing at the googly eyes on the sides of the blue goggles? 🤣🤣🤣 Matching those beady little things with the rest of the grumps's face are killing me 😅

@MetalicComplex 2 года назад

pay walling the swearing is an interesting choice

@ComXDude 2 года назад

While I am very much enjoying having the 10 Minute Power Hour back, I can't help but feel it's getting a smidge overedited. But that might be just me.

@BrentStarling Год назад

I completely agree, but that’s the way it goes

@nilara93 2 года назад

hell yeah!!!! Thank you for blessing us with 10 minute Power Hour! 😭💖💖💖

@whiteaaron117 Год назад

This episode had me in tears! Between laughing from seeing their eyes thru the goggles and hearing them laughing about the same thing, I was already losing it and Arin’s chair breaking and Dan laughing and Arin coughing and it made me start coughing and it was just painful all around visually and Esophogealously lmao

@averagegirl7113 2 года назад

10:08 this reminded me of when I was 1st grade and thought "I know the playground so well I could walk through it with my eyes closed" and then immediately walked into a play-set and lost a tooth.

@DizzyDebacles Год назад

WH- OMG 🤣🤣

@Meganomore 2 года назад

Another day, another 10 Minute Power Hour 👏🏽👏🏽

@thecosmicradiation Год назад

Dan putting on the orange goggles reminds me of when you put something like a leaf on top of a cat's head and they just completely retreat into themselves and freeze up