MAKING ATLAS GEAR CUTTING FIXTURE pt 2  

Mr Pete you are the greatest shop teacher ever. Too bad they don't teach this in school any more.

I'm glad I was bad and had to stay after class; that centering technique is great!

Even though I was NOT the one talking in class (it was Bobby Cotton) and I had to stay after class, I am glad I did have to as that was a great trick to learn for the center drilling. However I will be totally PO'd for about a week for having to stay after class as it has smeared my polished reputation.

Very enjoyable project Mr. Pete. You reminded me of a story about "idiot proofing": Every time someone screwed something up in the facility I worked at the owner would tell us in maintenance to "idiot-proof it so it won't happen again". One day I asked him; "who keeps hiring bigger idiots"? He stomped away angrily but quit asking us to idiot proof stuff.😂

This is a great series Lyle.

Thank you for your service Mr Pete 🤓

Premo idea on the end drilling for the brass insert. I use the match drill method all the time. Can't miss .I don't want to go home either, I still have a half cup of coffee left.Great stuff,as always.

Great tip! Love your videos, best shop teacher ever!

Great tip and i love the tool advertisement at the end,

The coupling nut drill centering jig at the end is absolutely genius!

Very good video.

thank you Mr Pete

I need to build a spider for my lathe and couldn't figure out a good way to make brass tipped screws. That trick you showed at the end looks like a great solution. Thank you for that! Have a great Sunday

This series will be great for anyone wanting a crash course in lots of operations and techniques. Whether they build the actual gear cutter or not. I especially like the hole centering doo dad.

On drilling and tapping those 4 holes. I would have left the setup in place until the job was done. The clearance hole could be drilled with the quill stop just into the aluminum and would be a 1/2 to 1 thread bevel. With the setup undisturbed then an endmill could be used for the counterbore positioned with the DRO. And tapping is much easier with a spring loaded tap follower (always the first project for a new machinist) mounted in the quill.

You tube unsubscribed me without my knowledge kinda irritating. I look forward to your videos Mr pete thanks for all you do.

Thank you for the video! I never would have thought of that tip for the brass tip.

I am a 71-year-old machinist and I learned two things from you today that’s pretty damn good.

Thanks for all the great tips Mr. Pete yo uare the best teacher a student could have.

Thanks for sharing

Mr. Pete, every young man has a favorite teacher from high school, myself included. I think it’s pretty neat that 40 years later I’ve found another teacher that matches him in wit and ability to get a lesson across. Thank you for all the hard work you do to make these videos both educational and entertaining. A rare talent and one that I appreciate greatly.

Entertaining video and thank you. Staying late to watch how you center drill that knob.

Awesome tip at the end!!! Thank You!!!

This series is SO informative Mr Pete, thank you very much indeed for sharing your expertise!

I love your videos!! It's amazing, I happened to watch some of your very early videos and you have brightened your demeanor so much! You are like a fine wine! You just get better and better!! I wish I had seen that extra credit many years ago.

If awesomeness was liquid, Mr. Pete would have to wear chest high waders in his shop!!!!! Some days he would possibly have to wear scuba gear!!!!!

More alter ego please!!

Great project I will be following to the end. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.

Thank you Mr Pete. I liked the whole thing but I especially like the way you solved the problem of drilling the knob. I'm not sure what I did, but I had to stay after. My mom said "that's ok.... You can get into mischief next week to make up for it". Have a great week.

I have a Lufkin wiggler set. I got it after finding a problem seeing a normal edge finder. I had to speed up the edge finder to see it move, at my normal speed I wouldn't see it move. So I bought a Lufkin wiggler.. it has 2 of those ball with pointers. A larger and a smaller .. I do like the wiggler, it's much easier to see it go off. And it also reaches further down or around a larger round.

This is a great project and set of teaching videos! I wonder if 3D printing a plastic gear (or index wheel) and transferring a gear to metal using this jig would work. That might be a relatively inexpensive metal gear making technique for those lacking a rotary table or dividing head.

Mr. Pete, my drawings and the Atlas BP-102 drawings are on the site. Cannot list the website here because YT will remove my comment if I do. I will post the other Atlas version of the file today. The third set of plans I do not have. Can you send them? Also, I have sent you multiple emails to the only email address I have for you. I will try again today from my work email. Great series sir, and thank you for posting. Joe

Your videos are just perfect. Just like being back in school learning a trade again. I often use the tips and tricks you provide when I'm machining something on my little Boxford lathe (Southbend model A clone) Greetings from Denmark.

Lotsa neat tricks Mr. Pete! However... you have taught us many times to use the mill (not powered) and a spring tap guide to tap holes! I.E. tap the square piece while it was still in the vise.

I'm going to make one of these but modify one end to fit my dividing head and set it in my vise on my mill and my lathe to make setup easier and most of my gears will be one of each size . I'm really enjoying this !! Thank you !

Great session Mr Pete. My Mom is really upset I had to stay late & miss my bus. She’ll call the principal tomorrow. John

I doubt I will ever make this, but I am still learning so many things by watching the series. You have so much good information to share. I'm not a big fan of big tech companies ruling the planet, but I am grateful that RU-vid will be hosting these videos long after both of us are food for worms. Keep sharing what you know! And keep being a bit (or a lot?) cantankerous! Your personality and demeanor, even your alter ego, is one of the reasons I love learning from you. Your former classroom students should feel honored to have had you as a teacher.

Best 3rd person ya'll! what do you mean we?

I like your drilling fixture for the threaded shaft. Simple, trick, but effective. I also like your drill set up for matching hole centers. I was taught standard bolt hole clearance for multiple fasteners when in drafting 101. Looking that hole clearance up for a four bolt hole of pattern would be extra safety. I use variations of your process successfully all the time, but keying orientation as you showed is likely necessary without the extra bolt clearance. I have used the drill counter bore method, but since you have the milling machine already set up, squaring the counter drilled hole bottom with an end mill would be an improvement (when lacking a counter bore). I am interested in what you plan for using for your master indexing gear since the SB gears you plan to remake are so trashed. The climb/conventional mill slot size and finish issue might be safely improved by a skim pass with the same tool and only stepped over enough for clearance. I wonder why the drawing calls out for square slot ends? That seems unnecessary.

If a lathe is the only machine you have that will allow low speeds for large drill rather than use a 4 jaw chuck with on jay removed why not use a face plate with clamps? The setup would be more tedious but the job could be done safely. I like the idea for a drill guide.

Thanks for another great video. The extra credit was worth it. Thanks for the video again Mr. Pete.

I love it! "Go home and tell mom...." I'm looking for those newer prints and not finding them. I dug all over My Heap and no joy. Will they eventually head over there? Thanks Professor Pete. Very enjoyable. PS is that the old 1920's Coca Cola? With the fo' sho' cocoa in it??? 😉

That is a good tip for drilling a hole in the end of a bolt. Don’t through it away just put it back with the rest of the coupling nuts.😊

Good tip on drilling the knob. Always learn from & enjoy your vid's.

As you were making it, I was thinking I'd make the slot 8" long, so that I could use a 12" 120 tooth circular saw b,ade as a pattern, nut that might not clear the carriage handles... Wait, that piece goes up above the carriage! Sorry, MDDA (mon dieu dumbass) moment!

well done Mr Pete. I have 2 of those wigglers one is a Lufkin and the other is a Starrett. thanks

LOL I just got through with two fried egg sammiches while watching you. Thanks Mr. Pete. Regards, Duck

I hear the Devil on Mr Pete's shoulder saying this job should be done completely on the Craftsman Lathe. 👹

Such a simple solution to drilling center of a threaded rod. Glad I stayed after…even though I was wasn’t the problem. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

awesome tip on getting that hold centered up on the knob. will deff have to try to remember that tip

These are nice, well delivered Utube short course channel for students to follow and they get to make something useful as well... I might have drilled & tapped for a locating screw between the aluminium boss and the hot rolled section... ☹🇬🇧

Thanks for this interesting serie of videos. No drawings needed just to pick up the idea and "do it my way", and have fun. Smart jigg for drilling a hole in a bolt. But.... If You can clamp that long 6 sided nut in the vise wouldn't it be possible to find the center a drill the bolt without the little drill guide? Assume a mill and DRO is at hand.

Ahh, an egg sandwich... Liked the way you drilled those four holes.

I have never cut a slot with a satisfactory finish for the reason you described, but you gave me an idea that might help. Suppose after cutting the 11/32 slot you used the same cutter to enlarge the slot one side at a time?

I've often wondered what it would have been like to have Mr Pete as a teacher! And now I'm on the other side of the Atlantic wondering about sharing Egg Sandwiches and Coca Cola. Thanks

Absolutely brilliant idea, I have to give the coupling nut jig a try! Thanks so much for sharing and take care!!

I expect that this series will allow ‘fool’ proof gear cutting on a mill without a dividing head as I only need one or two gears but they need to be exact copies of the Enco gear train. Even proficient fools can skip a tooth and go back without counting holes in an index plate. Turning the blank can be done without consulting the handbook for OD, PD, CP and so on.

Mr. Pete hopped up on Coca-Cola is the best Mr. Pete.

Loved the extra credit. Thanks for the tip; it will be very useful to me.

It's looking great and I love that jig you made to drill out that knob, that was brilliant!

Mr Pete question- your alter ego sounds eerily similar to "Mr Bill" on the old Saturday Night Live show ( when snl was entertaining) , Did you add the voice over for Mr Bill signed Enquiring mind from a Mr Richard Feder in Ft Lee NJ ? LOL ( mr feder from ft lee is from a old snl skit too )

I even finished the extra credit. All work was well done with great craftsmanship.😊😊😊😊😊😊

Another option for the drill pattern is to use your edge finder inside the hole to find the center of the bore and just move equal distances around the bore for the drill center diameter, or of course use the drill hole pattern on the DRO. Yes, edge finders can find the center of bores and holes. This would also allow you to make quite precise drill patterns if you do not assemble the parts for drilling and drill them separately.

I was wondering how you were going to drill the brass dogpiont on center. That was a clever idea. I will have to remember it.

28:09 this is what Joe Pie calls 'shop gems' lol. Machinist wisdom you don't often come across

Learn something every time!! Thank you

Great video! Loved your energy! Nice tip on drilling in the center of threaded component.

Not only very instructional but also very entertaining video. I must admit I not only miss out too often from class but also from my homework. Wich is even worse.

With the added reach on the lathe!maybe a reduction gear train for your bandsaw

Mr. Pete is fired up on Coca Cola. Next time put a little rum in your Cola!

This whole project ie turning out slicker than owl snot.

This stuff where you are making chips is the best.

Tool is needed because there is no mill! Yet most operations were done on a mill!,, nice if all was done on the lathhe

Your alter ego voice reminds me of ohh no Mr Bill on SNL

I believe you will be first to actually cut gears on a lathe on you tube

6:48 every lathe is a drill press if your brave enough.

“Perfecto Garcia Queen”?!?!?! 🤣🤣 ~9:56 Wasn’t that a cigar or something???🔥💨🚬🚭

I stayed after class to see how close my hack was to your ( *far more elegant & accurate* ) solution. I used a coupling nut as you did but I chinced with a close fitting scrap box bushing. Recently, I had to drill the centers of my old Tundra 2000 wiper posts. It's the same wiper transmission that the old girl came with. They were frozen dry and I didn't want it to happen again. The center drilling was needed to create grease channels for future lubing. BTW, the coupling nut also serves as the grease gun adapter. I either pressed or JB Welded a Zerts grease fitting to it. Pete, thinking back on this I think I was being very optimistic if you get my drift. Hell, I'm damn near as old as you! 🤔 Wakodahatchee Chris

I really like the tip for installing the brass plug in the locking knob. Thanks for sharing that idea. My dad used to work at Fisher Body in Baltimore. He learned from other employees about a drill stop that was kinda available there. Employees would use a door lock button that was installed on the inside of the door next to the side glass. They were designed to be put on what was either an 8-33 threaded lock rod protruding through the window garnish molding. They would drill from the bottom through the top of the button exposing only the length needed for repeat holes.This button also protected the surrounding metal from drill damage. Of course your range of bits was limited with this method, the button shaft was 3/8". Since Fisher Body became Eastern Aircraft during the war, it is possible this is a carryover from drilling aluminum sheet and using what was available during those years. Now, these buttons sell for about $8.00 a piece and newer models went to all plastic which didn't work as well as the earlier ones. My dad used to have at least one drill bit in the basement with a lock button on it for working around the house. He never owned a drill with a chuck that had greater than 1/4" capacity.

Your comment about the bull's a$$ during blow fly season cracked me up. My dad used to say when something was tight - it's tighter than a Crab's a$$, and that's water tight.

Coconut butter is a much better lubricant for cutting and tapping aluminum. It's what Boeing uses. Chinese counterbore bits are reasonably priced these days on eBay and Amazon.

Very good. He just keeps going.

OK, Ill stay after..... 😀

Lyle, I took have a small collection of knobs. I'm replenishing mine as I sold a bunch at the Thresherman's Reunion at a local historical society flea market. I have both sae and metric. I've got a couple trays full of them. My first year at the flea market, a guy said he lost the seat knob from his riding mower. I'm glad I had what he needed.

I'm glad I stuck around for the extra credit. I'm not sure I will need such a jug but it would sure be handy if I did, Great video Mr. Pete, first channel I watch when checking into You Tube if there is something new on.

Lyle, thanks for another great lesson. When I get to hell I won't need to tell my poor mother what I did, I'm sure she already knows and will be waiting for me with a list. Along with a number of other individuals who might find it a good time to get even. Would it be possible to request more frequent "visits" from your alter ego? I suspect "he" is a good cross section of your former student's curiosity, and his questions most likely prevented many of them from future injury. Best regards.

I have a set of those cheap S&D drills, only the last 1/2" is actual tool steel, the rest is some grade of Stilton cheese.. if you look at the video you can even see the line on Mr Pete's. I had one catch and snap of the tip, went to sharpen it and nothing, just junk mild steel. had another catch and bend... really a drill bit bend?? total waste if you plan on using with a hand drill, definitely would only recommend with a proper drill press or mill, and only if its all you can afford.

Hahaha, Chinesium and the alter ego, hahaha.

One of your best videos Mr Pete, very informative, very funny, well paced, well filmed. I learned a lot and enjoyed the experience, what more can a man wnat?

Square the 3/8 slot with your Die Filer?

As always you have done a great video and something that is useful in the workshop. Good to see that you are still making videos, have been enjoying your work for many years.

Brilliant as always Mr Pete!!! In many ways little dodges and how-tos such as centring tapped holes through two surfaces and especially the jig for centring a hole down a narrow threaded shaft are the most important lessons to learn. Thank you so much for passing these on!

Why does the brass piece have to be set into the knob screw? Wouldn't a little pellet just dropped in the hole loosely work fine, as long as the knob is not removed? Great series, Mr. Pete, thanks.

Re counterboring with a drill but needing a flat bottom. I measured the depth of the drill cutting edge, swapped out the drill bit for an end mill and took it down that far. Extra steps but it worked.

looks like a typical shop class project, do I get extra pionts for converting the drawing to metric. since i don't have any tools or materials in imperial.

I enjoy all the tips you provide. The one for inserting brass rod in bolts was great! Thanks!

Hi Mr.Pete. Thank you so much for all of your videos. I've learned so much from you and truly appreciate you. My question doesn't have anything to do with this video series but I figured with the amount of comments you get the newer videos probably get the most of your attention (kinda sneaky ony part and apologize in advance). Also I don't think you've made a video regarding my questions that I could comment on. Can you please make a video on setting up and using a centering scope?

On the coupling nut drill jig. I would have cut the bolt very short then put the coupling nut the the 3 jaw, drilled out a thread or two so the bolt would bottom out on the head and then drill the guide hole. The coupling nut is much more secure in the chuck than a short piece of bolt. The intact bolt won't get stuck in the coupling nut and the head of the bolt leaves a longer guide hole which makes drilling easier.

“Ohhhh Noooooo… Mr. Billlll!”

You get the red apple teacher of the year award. Tighter that a bull's ........... What was that?