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Making Complex Knobs | Arbor Press Restoration 

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Hey guys! Today we're making a replacement handle for our arbor press as part of our ongoing restoration project. We got some great close ups of the action on our lathes and milling machine, so get comfortable as we walk you through the work. Thanks for dropping in!

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@howder1951
@howder1951 11 месяцев назад
Nice piece and a great machining video. would you be able to post a link on that induction heater, it looks like a nice shop addition for shrink fits and heat treating small parts. Cheers!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
www.amazon.com/Mini-Ductor-Venom-MDV-777/dp/B01N0LR0M0/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=FUWE24SOS7OR&keywords=venom+induction+heater&qid=1699132882&sprefix=venom+induction+%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-4
@rogarmadz
@rogarmadz 10 месяцев назад
My Dad was a machinist, worked in small shops after WW 2 till 1964. He didn't want me to be a machinist!! Wanted me to learn to be a auto mechanic!!! WHY ? SO HE COULD HAVE A FREE MECHANIC!!! "He did pay for the schooling" just took a LONG time to pay it off... I enjoyed your video (subscribed)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@kahutochishisumi9056
@kahutochishisumi9056 10 месяцев назад
Your Dad was a wise man😁😁😁😁😁
@pariskennard4540
@pariskennard4540 10 месяцев назад
You are a legend
@shaunp8727
@shaunp8727 11 месяцев назад
When you say taking .100 are you making a .050 cut?
@Freetheworldnow
@Freetheworldnow 11 месяцев назад
Yes. It is over the diameter...
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Beat me to it
@abrahamwilberforce9824
@abrahamwilberforce9824 11 месяцев назад
CNC machinist: I calculated the best rpm for this operation to be 1787. Manual machinist: The gearbox of my old Clausing Weiler Meuser is least rattly at 600 rpm, I am gonma 600 rpm everything.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Do it
@gexas38
@gexas38 10 месяцев назад
videography is top flight, really value the callouts on doc, speed and feeds and when u are experimenting with different tool execution like the tool holder u had to heat up and insert endmill. keep it up!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Awesome, thank you!
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 10 месяцев назад
That has come out absolutely stunning. Excellent design and execution!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@adstoop7885
@adstoop7885 10 месяцев назад
When I listen to you like this, I am waiting for the comment; “Houston, we have a problem.” Luckily I haven't heard that yet. You are an astronaut in the metal world and come up with a solution almost every time. I look forward to the next one, to the stars and beyond. Kind regards from the Netherlands.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Awesome thank you sir
@garysgarage101
@garysgarage101 10 месяцев назад
Wow, amazing work. I just shake my head when you’re hogging on the American, it’s ridiculous. Cool idea with the heat shrink tooling. Will look into that. Can’t get over how nice your Colchester runs. Need to get motivated to work on mine.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Cool! Thanks!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Good luck on your project!
@joell439
@joell439 11 месяцев назад
Best kind of shop project. Nice mix of precision and art and It’ll put a big smile 😊 on your face every time you touch it. 👍👍😎👍👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@jasonhull5712
@jasonhull5712 10 месяцев назад
I watch videos all the time like this with good solid American Iron lathes just eating up metal, later in the shop I’m shaking my head as I’m changing out one insert after another because my little Clausing Metosa can’t handle them huge cuts.. lol.. when it grows up it’s gonna be an American pacemaker! Haha That is one nice looking knob you spun up man. Nice work all around. 🍻
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you. American is a great machine
@Tinman97301
@Tinman97301 11 месяцев назад
The cuts you made got me week in the knees 🤣 Nothing better than a hog show👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Ha ha, I agree!
@josephwaldner7752
@josephwaldner7752 11 месяцев назад
cool cool Hey whats up with the Jakobs collection?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Which collection. Chucks or rubber flex. What are you referring to
@andyloebrown8250
@andyloebrown8250 11 месяцев назад
It's a knob with bling. 👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@gettingoldsuckss
@gettingoldsuckss 11 месяцев назад
Confused why you didn't do that as one piece? (Besides inside work)
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
I know it created extra work, but I wanted a smoother transition where the two rings are and some of the operations were a little easier to do with the clearance. I know it may not seem obvious, initially I was going to do it in one op but when I got to cutting the reliefs out I realized I would get a better result if I did it in 3 pieces, if only just slightly better.
@vandalsgarage
@vandalsgarage 10 месяцев назад
If you'd have used the same parting tool (that you parted the rings with) to cut the grooves, the transition would have been the same. Less waste, lower cost, and no chance of separation later on.
@anthonycash4609
@anthonycash4609 11 месяцев назад
I know you said the insert was bad due to the sparks coming off it. What makes a bad insert spark like that.
@Freetheworldnow
@Freetheworldnow 11 месяцев назад
Usually a dulled cutting edge. Could also be chipped. Surface speed could be excessive as well. The type of carbide may as well be a factor due to materiel hardness.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
👍
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule 11 месяцев назад
That was a lot of work and it turned out fantastic.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@Freetheworldnow
@Freetheworldnow 11 месяцев назад
I am not sure if it is the camera angle, but it seems to me that your parting tool blade usually sticks out too much... Nice project and great proof of concept!😂! By the way I love the sound of those lathes. No gear rattling... Thank you for sharing. You are a good men.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@jimhunt5259
@jimhunt5259 11 месяцев назад
where does it go?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
It’s the knob on the arbor press that prevents the ram from falling down, near the handwheel. They’ll be a complete video coming out shortly.
@JanBinnendijk
@JanBinnendijk 8 месяцев назад
NIce design, But i'd have done it differently.. You could have made the knob in one piece, by milling the groove, and then mill the slots, Heck!, you could also turn the grooves and mill then.. When making the part with the grooves, when there's an even number of grooves, you could have done them across.. would have given the same result, and always chamfer the back to make a relief for the cutter radius in the bottom of the pocket. (or make a small groove in there as well.. Apart from that.. Nice job!.. i'd blue it for sure.. prevents rust.. and it looks more factory made
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 8 месяцев назад
Thanks
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 10 месяцев назад
I've never seen a dial like that on a tailstock, very good feature because the marking that are usually on the shaft always get covered in oil and become difficult to read.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Yeah it is a nice idea I agree with you on the markings.
@19672701
@19672701 11 месяцев назад
Over the top for sure!,looks great! So snooping while watching,what are you painting magenta? you paint your stuff in cool colors. Looks like a large collection of chucks too. As usual great video.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! We’ll have a new video coming of an arbor press in that color, stay tuned!
@19672701
@19672701 11 месяцев назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Awesome! can't wait!
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 10 месяцев назад
Thumbs up from me. 👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Much appreciated
@rickfazzini22
@rickfazzini22 10 месяцев назад
Wow! Subbed
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@vicferrari9380
@vicferrari9380 6 месяцев назад
Nice job! I watched it all. At around 40 min I realised i was so intently watching that I forgot what the part was for.😅
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 6 месяцев назад
lol it happens
@plang42
@plang42 10 месяцев назад
Try and talk in metric sizes so the rest of the world knows what you are talking about! *The US automotive industry is in metric.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the feedback
@RonHess-p4c
@RonHess-p4c 9 месяцев назад
You don't need to abuse your tools on my behalf. Use lubricant. Most people who watch these types of videos have seen chips come out of a drilled hole. Save your self some time and lube up.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 8 месяцев назад
Maybe. I do use lubricant all the time but certain clips I don’t for the video. You may not care but it’s hard to get a good shot when everything is Smokey all the time.
@rickfearn3663
@rickfearn3663 11 месяцев назад
Excellent voice over. Very clear
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@neilhaas
@neilhaas 10 месяцев назад
Very impressive nice
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@Kierpm96
@Kierpm96 10 месяцев назад
What was the point of adding the rings after the fact as opposed to just leaving that metal there when you turned down the part in the first place? Maybe I'm missing something, seems like a lot of added work for no benefit. Great work overall, really beautiful piece
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Lots of work for a little benefit. Mostly had to do with clearance of end mill during the knurling section. Also the surface finish in the sections of material that was reduced. Also the knurl and relieved area are at different heights. It’s hard to tell but I was mimicking a Jacob’s chuck as precisely as I could if I changed the design slightly I could have saved work, but this was fun so I wasn’t worried about that.
@Kierpm96
@Kierpm96 10 месяцев назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair Makes sense. I've certainly done many projects where I put in a lot of extra work for little added haha
@heinzdibbeldidobel256
@heinzdibbeldidobel256 10 месяцев назад
Ah you know me too well. I see big, hot and juicy chips at the beginning of a video I leave a like.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
lol me too
@JohnH20111
@JohnH20111 10 месяцев назад
i’m not sure if that’s a good idea by spinning that steel at those rpm’s, especially when the tool chuck is that close to the lathe chuck
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Good to know
@zokiz9449
@zokiz9449 10 месяцев назад
i didn't get it why did you make 2 edge rings when you could make them from the same piece?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Mostly to achieve the best possible surface finish in the area and allowed more room to work with the areas. Also made it easier during straight knurling as well. It may not seem obvious but there are several reasons to do it that way. Most all of them add lots of work but make a slightly better result
@OmnieStar
@OmnieStar 10 месяцев назад
I love the look of that blue lathe sooooooo much! Its an amazing color and amazing shape!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@jamesbutler5570
@jamesbutler5570 9 месяцев назад
Have fun cleaning that overengineered handle every time you used it
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 9 месяцев назад
True
@pauliusdom7726
@pauliusdom7726 9 месяцев назад
The chatter while using parting tool…. Omfg
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 9 месяцев назад
Glad that was your take away
@ElltoRToisedelPaPito
@ElltoRToisedelPaPito 11 месяцев назад
Happy Saturday 🌴☀️👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, you too.
@quelthalas21
@quelthalas21 9 месяцев назад
looks dang good my man! Will say though, from plenty-a personal experience with hot rolled goodies, you can get an even better finish! Golden rule of mild steels in general: more or less doesn't matter what brand of manual lathe you have, it's max rpm is still in the low end for the surface speed you want. Only limitting factor would be a lathe that starts vibrating wildly above 2k rpm...But if your lathe is as robust as it sounds, 2-3k should be no problem at all!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 9 месяцев назад
Good to know thank you
@hersch_tool
@hersch_tool 11 месяцев назад
Niiiiice work!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@edwardhugus2772
@edwardhugus2772 10 месяцев назад
Loved your work, you got a like and a new sub. You have such a nice finish, I'd go with shiny not blued, but it's yours, and you have to look at it more often....if its a pain to keep naked, then blu is better than rust!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
True true
@Bonenite
@Bonenite 6 месяцев назад
parting tool is way to fast. 100 rpm
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 6 месяцев назад
👍
@nsrvtqc
@nsrvtqc 10 месяцев назад
I have no idea what that was but I do know that was a great video. That sucked me in, thought I was in your workshop for a second. 😂👊
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Awesome thank you
@robertpeters9438
@robertpeters9438 4 месяца назад
No need to drill dry for the camera.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 4 месяца назад
It’s cause I love you guys
@petervaneverdink448
@petervaneverdink448 11 месяцев назад
Very nice!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@mathewritchie
@mathewritchie 10 месяцев назад
That was quiet a chunky nurl.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Indeed it was
@Chromevulcan
@Chromevulcan 4 месяца назад
Was that the 91D Tap Handle?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 4 месяца назад
Yes
@aguycalledlucas
@aguycalledlucas 11 месяцев назад
Beautiful work
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@stevecrawford1238
@stevecrawford1238 9 месяцев назад
That is really impressive!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 9 месяцев назад
Thank you
@ZombiePanda1776
@ZombiePanda1776 10 месяцев назад
Seriously under rated channel! Outstanding work! Love the Fireball vise!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you very much!
@chronicblazer84
@chronicblazer84 10 месяцев назад
Not quite sure why you switched machines... First process OD of handle, second process smaller OD and bore with tapping. Easy peasy, and you can get great runout on a 3 jaw, like under a thousandth.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
It must have just been fixturing or ease of use. My 3 jaw is good but not as good as the six jaw I also am have slightly different tools on each lathe also 6 jaw does better from minimizing scratching on surface.
@chronicblazer84
@chronicblazer84 10 месяцев назад
@@VanoverMachineAndRepair make yourself a few sets of soft jaws and bore them to fit your work piece, it's actually easy ASF tbh. Im not trying to critique you,you have a lot more toys than I do, but I play with toys that are expensive ASF at work. I'm just saying, you did a lot of unnecessary changes. As a machinist, you know that you only do what's necessary. It turned out awesome, I'll give you that.
@carlbyington5185
@carlbyington5185 9 месяцев назад
VERRY Impressive !!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 8 месяцев назад
Appreciate it
@Critter145
@Critter145 10 месяцев назад
Dude, that’s Office Space levels of flair. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thanks
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 10 месяцев назад
Just found your channel and subscribed. Nice work.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@gexas38
@gexas38 8 месяцев назад
after watching this again and saw what u did with your handles it made me want a dividing head so i bought one!!!! can't wait to use it.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 8 месяцев назад
I was using mine again today. They are great
@gexas38
@gexas38 8 месяцев назад
i know they are mostly for gears but your handles gave me other ideas....@@VanoverMachineAndRepair cant wait to see what other uses u have for it.
@jakefriesenjake
@jakefriesenjake 10 месяцев назад
I'd do a thick plating of Nickle. Then polish it up
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Great idea
@b0inGy
@b0inGy 10 месяцев назад
thanks for sharing feeds and speeds. love it!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
My pleasure!
@the_hate_inside1085
@the_hate_inside1085 10 месяцев назад
Would be fun to see where this part goes afterwards.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Huge video coming out in a couple of weeks
@dermotkelly2289
@dermotkelly2289 10 месяцев назад
What a great job! expert machining
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@daveanderson2316
@daveanderson2316 10 месяцев назад
Great design. I love it!
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thank you
@HentaizerZ
@HentaizerZ 10 месяцев назад
18:00 .. 19:00 просто рука-лицо.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
?
@fredericorusso
@fredericorusso 11 месяцев назад
Love the videos. One minor complaint: please just say, ‘RPM’, not ‘RPMs’; RPM = Revolution**s** (plural) Per Minute (singular). Cheers!
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 11 месяцев назад
How about no?
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 11 месяцев назад
Cool bro
@fredericorusso
@fredericorusso 11 месяцев назад
@@grntitan1 that should be, ‘How *is* (or ‘How’s’) about no’. Thanks!
@19672701
@19672701 11 месяцев назад
wow,mostest rude comment.
@fredericorusso
@fredericorusso 11 месяцев назад
@@19672701 oh, lord. [grits the teeth of a retired teacher] (note to self: do not try to explain the ‘est’ suffix meaning as ‘the most’. E.G., The most most redundant response.) ):
@plang42
@plang42 10 месяцев назад
What you call as "centre drill" isn't a centre drill. But a centre/counter sink drill. You only use the thicker drill part for counter sinking and for the use of a live/dead centre. Not to start a drill hole as the cutting angle of the thicker part doesn't match the angle of most drill bits. This will make the drill bit wander. Just buy "real" centre drill bits, for this type of job 👍
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Thanks
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 10 месяцев назад
Pretty impressed with how that American hogs off metal.
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
It’s impressive. Love that machine
@InservioLetum
@InservioLetum 10 месяцев назад
_"little bit of flair"_ Translation : "I decided to out-xzibit the man himself and overpimped my dial knob so much, that apple asked me to design their new security screw."
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 10 месяцев назад
Very nice
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