Have you considered using a muller and a glass slab to grind down the pigment? I'm not sure how dedicated you are to making your own pigment - but that is a solution for creating paint that's closer to the real stuff.
If I had either of those things it would have been ideal. I also could have bet money on this suggestion being the first comment, since it was the first thing I thought of after making the video.
Can you whet the pigment first before using the binder, like ammonia for the acrylic paint and alcohol or turpentine for oil . It has been a while.. It looks like your method is working though.
I can imagine wetting the pigment with solvents would be a good idea at all. I did improve on this method a few years later by mixing with a paint muller, and grinding down the pigment
Thanks for the video. I have found that if you use the back of the knife to scrape the chalk, you get a finer powder than the mortar and pestle. Hope that helps someone. ;) Anyways, I going to give this a try, and mix some gum arabic into my powdery mix and see what happens.
Pretty sure you could get it fine enough using one of those grinders for oil paint..or dissolution first in solvent and grind from dampness to powder and so on.
I did an updated version of this video with a proper paint muller a couple years ago which you should find some useful tips in: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JGh_OtS1h9Y.html Although I'd be a little concerned about the added wax in oil pastels creating problems in getting a mix that would last beyond a single painting session.
I wonder how liquid gesso would work. Cool topic. I am doing soft pastels now and want to move to acrylics. I have used some acrylic paint in the same painting as my soft pastels. It would be nice to still be able to use the colors from my pastel collection in my acrylic painting as there are some colors in my pastels I just love. My Senellier pastels are a bit pricey but some of them are super smooth, may work well with this technique. Nice video nice to see the person behind the screen name in DA lol Winks Lisa
I imagine liquid gesso would work similarly to the molding paste, and emulsify the pigment while pasteling the color out to given the white of the gesso (unless you're talking about clear gesso). I would get cheap pastels for this. Using Senellier for something like this is a sad thing to do with nice pastels.
Ended up doing this again recently with a muller and mixing plate. Worked much better: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JGh_OtS1h9Y.html
@@Aanchal_67 I would probably NOT do this with oil pastels. Not only because they're more expensive, but because they often contain more than just oil and pigment. You could create oils from the dry pigment though.
It would help, but you'd lose a lot of the pastel to the paper itself. Since this initial test, I got my hands on a glass muller and mixing plate, which goes a long way to making this idea more practical.
There is a chance that you could, but it would limit you to just making oil paint. I also wouldn't recommend it as unlike chalk, oil pastels usually contain wax in order to maintain their shape and working quality...which of course oil paints don't have or need. The waxes in oil pastels could cause issues with your brushes.
I get the feeling that would be like trying to melt dirt...possible, but would probably change the molecular structure and take a considerable about of heat to do it.
To mix with? Would have made the color way more pink than it already was. Gesso is pigmented with Titanium white, so it would be like mixing a two colors rather than making just one.
