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The infamous deleted MRwEV episode with production breakdown of No One Knows.

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@rocktonmusikschule
@rocktonmusikschule Год назад
One of the best sounding records of all times. A masterpiece of sound!
@SeaOfMadness
@SeaOfMadness Год назад
Agreed - Just blows my mind. That drum sound....
@jovanreid6782
@jovanreid6782 Год назад
Definitely QOTSA's cleanest record... which is probably one of the reasons why they never worked with him again. A record that clean was never really Josh's style.
@chateaushows9930
@chateaushows9930 5 месяцев назад
Lullabies is arguably cleaner imo@@jovanreid6782
@Mimi-p4u
@Mimi-p4u 17 дней назад
For all of you out there who love that flute, can't unhear it or just smile because it amazes you: Watch Qotsa live at Troubadour 2002. That very flute is played gracefully by Alain Johannes on stage. If I am correct it is Dave Grohl's first live appearance with the band and the flute is quite subtle in between Dave's badass drums and Nick's bass. Like a beautiful butterfly floating around in the fast and ecstatic Qotsa universe. I love Josh and Alain for following their inspiration and daring to play outside of the expected. Love.
@paulbadoo9326
@paulbadoo9326 Год назад
That''s a great story about the "A day in the life trick", which perfectly shows how the shadow that the Beatles cast is so large that covers everyone.
@blueflagmusic
@blueflagmusic Год назад
I bought the Peavey,Ovation,and some of the other stuff. Now i need more specifics about the drugs. I would also appreciate a contact for Josh's hair stylist. Terrific video!
@Jonnis69
@Jonnis69 Год назад
I have a VT40
@augustauseil
@augustauseil Год назад
Feel Good Hit of the Summer is a pretty good place to start for item 2
@Majigitajog
@Majigitajog Год назад
Ooh Ovation! You show me yours, I'll show you mine ;)
@Jonnis69
@Jonnis69 Год назад
I also have Valium, vicodin substitute, mdma(close enough to extc) and c c c c cocainne. You can find your own nicotine, marijuana and alcohol. Unless you are under age in which case I will get it for you.
@Jonnis69
@Jonnis69 Год назад
Did you actually buy the Peavey? That won’t get you the sound. It gets 1/3 of the bass sound and a couple guitar tones. You need an Ampeg VT40 or VT22 or even a V4B.
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 10 месяцев назад
27:20 bass recording 30:42 guitar 44:02 vocals
@gianttreeproductions3947
@gianttreeproductions3947 5 месяцев назад
58:51 flute
@DraqonSLayeRx
@DraqonSLayeRx Год назад
this guy is the uncredited genius of the album.
@Gcssdvnkloiutesc
@Gcssdvnkloiutesc Год назад
Not much of a genius. It Would of sounded totally Different if he had full production and mix.he wanted to turn it into another clean polished rock record much like his other productions.
@masthomasthom
@masthomasthom Год назад
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc find the part in the video where he checks the final mix with his.. ;)
@Gcssdvnkloiutesc
@Gcssdvnkloiutesc Год назад
@@masthomasthom what time? Because according to Josh, he mixed it with someone else in order to “prey it out of Eric valentines hands”. He said he had a lot of arguments with Eric and openly admits to hating him. Eric also could be deceiving us because now in his winter years songs for the death is one of the most notable and may be the most enduring recording he worked on , he wants as much credit is possible is his ulterior motive.
@Charlyfromthenuclearcity
@Charlyfromthenuclearcity 10 месяцев назад
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc Dude, you've read too many forum posts. The guy litteraly recorded the album, and also does not need to prove anything at this point since he's a reference in the rock music production for years now. Also he's totally credited on the record as producer.
@rome8180
@rome8180 10 месяцев назад
@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc He demonstrates in this video that his mix sounds identical to the record. If you're too lazy to watch the video, we can't help you out. Also, Eric has done plenty of non-polished records. He recorded a Dwarves record, ffs.
@andyg3
@andyg3 Год назад
that peavey on the bass sounds fucking amazing!
@thegreatdestroyer6506
@thegreatdestroyer6506 Год назад
After Josh mentioned the Decade in another interview a while back, guess why Peavey Decades are now over $500, although probably only worth a tenth of that. And people thought, it was his guitar sound, that had something to do with the Decade.
@didybopintitys
@didybopintitys Год назад
@@thegreatdestroyer6506 a video popped up from a random in my feed a while back and it was a cool background on that whole thing was quite interesting
@mattandison7372
@mattandison7372 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing. Incredible
@jtz0
@jtz0 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for sharing this Eric, so cool to see what went into it.
@asandtwo5121
@asandtwo5121 Год назад
thanks! I've been waiting for this. I missed to download it at the time it was originally uploaded
@sonicboompole2774
@sonicboompole2774 Год назад
Excellent! I missed this the first time around, got about 20 minutes in before it was taken down. Thanks for bringing it back.
@bgrells
@bgrells Год назад
Wow. That drum sound! Still one of my favorite drum recordings ever. Thank you so much for sharing this 🙏🏻
@TheAJW50
@TheAJW50 Год назад
Thanks so much. Awesome track and a great run down of just why it sounds so good. Weird, experimental, creative studio experimentation alchemy. Brilliant.
@KristofferPaulsen
@KristofferPaulsen Год назад
hey Eric.. got recommended this by RU-vid today, and absolutely loved it. Thanks so much for your generosity of knowledge and transparency with the session.. so amazing to get a peek under the hood, such an incredible sounding record and song.
@tootory9506
@tootory9506 Год назад
SO Greatful You Reposted This!!! IT Is Just Beautiful and Makes We Want To Go Buy This Album and Listen To More QOTSA!
@addrock123
@addrock123 Год назад
Its back! Thanks dude, been a while since ive seen this ❤️
@theelectrylicious
@theelectrylicious Год назад
I had never watched this but heard about it. I was hoping this would show up again at some point in time. I'm so glad for the yt algorithm. Eric is a national treasure, unselfish beyond comprehension.
@DennisAlvey
@DennisAlvey Год назад
This is great. As a home recording guitarist, I LOVE hearing how these awesome sounding records are created. This recording in particular, one of THE best sounding drum recordings I've ever heard. Love the sound of this record (the songs are great too!). Eric, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I watched the whole thing. Thanks for doing this.
@buhlir
@buhlir Год назад
Incredible! Thank you for sharing this with us, Very inspiring!
@galihgori
@galihgori 2 месяца назад
Thanks for back up this video.
Год назад
Thanks for that Peavey Decade anecdote! A few years back, I did some bass reamping for Dani Dettwiler (we were studio neighbours and have an Ampeg). So I did a few passes with the Ampeg and different mics, but also added a track with a 4038 picking up a little 12W Reuther solidstate amp with an 8" speaker. That amp/mic combo sounds massive and kinda has been my secret weapon for highgain guitars for years. He never told me which track made the mix, though...
@shanelarue8162
@shanelarue8162 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for uploading!!!!!
@colingentile
@colingentile Год назад
It was a huge gift !! Thank you so much, Eric, for this big diving experience. Loved it !
@drdazfuk
@drdazfuk Год назад
Beautiful insight. Thank you ❤️
@robheskin
@robheskin Год назад
I remember when he was asked to take it down. So glad you got it. I understand both sides for sure.
@jedediah7772
@jedediah7772 Год назад
Definitely in my top five favs of everything, it sounds so good at full volume with some good monitors or car stereo, masterfully done🤚🏻😎
@favoriteblueshirt
@favoriteblueshirt Год назад
Thats for posting, now I've got it downloaded finally.
@whatsuphotdog
@whatsuphotdog Год назад
Love hearing about all of the studio tricks that produced this magnificent sound.
@lukejames854
@lukejames854 Год назад
Eric your knowledge is very much appreciated. This is as close as a fly on the wall us laymen can get. Thanks for sharing.
@BOMBPHONICS
@BOMBPHONICS Год назад
I love that album so much!!!! Definitely top 10 of all for me.
@Ranca666
@Ranca666 Год назад
Hearing music professionals gush about Dave always makes me giddy. It's a shame that recordings cannot truly convey the startling feeling a really powerful drummer can channel, almost primal. Fantastic video, a real privilege to get such an in depth look behind the curtain, especially for one of the greatest fucking rock songs ever! Thanks you for bringing to life an authentic masterpiece! Edit: And you're a Turbonegro fan too :)
@peachmelba1000
@peachmelba1000 Год назад
You did a great job on this album, and it sounds how the band wanted it to sound, regardless of who mixed it. Everybody played their part. That's the point.
@nathanallen9291
@nathanallen9291 Год назад
Thank you for sharing all your knowledge
@geoffschuller4875
@geoffschuller4875 Год назад
OMG. The flute! Watch it to the end! So great!
@rollingrock5143
@rollingrock5143 Год назад
The V4B sounds a lot like his kyuss days and stuff before this album. Thanks for this Eric!
@rtmsoundscapes
@rtmsoundscapes Год назад
Thanks for this!
@nenostevens5176
@nenostevens5176 Год назад
Thanks for the insight. I’m inspired to play and record more and more.
@shokomiya6004
@shokomiya6004 2 месяца назад
30:17 to mix of three tracks .... incredible bass sound ... thank you for upload
@yannickp5454
@yannickp5454 Год назад
I don't think I'll ever be able to unhear the flute on that song XD
@sn1ffy85
@sn1ffy85 4 месяца назад
Go hit up the “orchestral version”.
@TrueFallacy
@TrueFallacy Год назад
Thank you, thank you. THANK YOU!!
@OrezOreh2007
@OrezOreh2007 Год назад
Loving the T-Shirt! Two gallants are (were?) an amazing band
@davidtushishvili6938
@davidtushishvili6938 Год назад
one of my love sounding track.
@legalize.brokkoli
@legalize.brokkoli Год назад
archived for eternity
@BeTheGuitar
@BeTheGuitar Год назад
I may be a little late to the party, but I hear an erie resemblance to Alain Johannes’ early songwriting and even vocal styling in the track “No One Knows.” I followed Anthym all over Southern California in the late 70’s and early 80’s, and damn it sounds like Josh is totally channeling Alain in that track.
@thromboid
@thromboid 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely loved Chris Cornell's first solo release, and came to realise that Alain and Natasha were a lot of the magic. Amazing and unique.
@maxencevilla6693
@maxencevilla6693 Год назад
Pictures of Mark Josh and Nick behind the recording microphone are so cool
@dandelay8377
@dandelay8377 Год назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
@pepe7drum
@pepe7drum Год назад
I don't know what controversy is around this album could be that Josh once said he wanted to do the record by himself and Joe Barresi but the record label wouldn't trust neither of them lol so they choosed Eric which was a great choice at the end, Joe Barresi will be invited to do their next album Lullabies to Paralyze, many of the techniques and tone design in SFTD is very Homme-esque so I think Josh was in charge as well.
@jn1346
@jn1346 Год назад
Used to pray for content like this. 🙏🏼
@zach1113
@zach1113 Год назад
Thank you!
@vegardyrnes1793
@vegardyrnes1793 Год назад
TNX!💓
@frankrizzo2724
@frankrizzo2724 Год назад
Mucho thank yous....
@lb2696
@lb2696 Год назад
It’s a damn shame that Josh doesn’t appreciate Eric, since he is a big part of why SFTD is their best sounding album.
@barneyrubble8255
@barneyrubble8255 Год назад
Like most creative heads of bands, he doesnt like sharing credit with the other half dozen guys that made it sound so good. Roger Waters, Trent Reznor, Perry Farrel come to mind.
@lb2696
@lb2696 Год назад
@@barneyrubble8255 Trent had all the guys inducted into the hall of fame with him, so I don’t think that’s a fair comment about him.
@barneyrubble8255
@barneyrubble8255 Год назад
@@lb2696 Well that sure didnt translate into giving chris verenna any money at the time they were the hottest band in the world. Verenna has said at the hieght of downward spiral, after spending every minute with trent since Pretty Hate machine helping him produce that music, he was only being paid something like 100 grand a year. He left at the height of the band he helped create the sound of, and Trent did not care. Sure decades down the road, invite him and the others to the induction "gracious" gesture i guess... but im sure a little more money would have been a more gracious gesture. How much of those drum ideas and the drum programming and sample programing were Verenna's on those first 3 albums..
@mattg082
@mattg082 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@barneyrubble8255 I live in New Orleans and was out and about during that time. I ran into Trent a few times, and then again worked backstage for a festival for them in 2009. His attitude changed a lot from the 90s till then. It was pretty bad apparently for the New Orleans move, for the other guys. Richard the guitar player at the time(Filter) moved down, and was told he could deliver pizzas. But luckily he had been making his own music, and got signed to getaway from it. Trent saw it as his thing, and from what I know told a lot of guys see it as a favor…or a stepping stone. Then a lot of people were put out, or just on standby doing other gigs. He also took part on a lot of drugs back then…I had friends that rolled up to his house selling over in the garden district. Not to mention Manson was around, as an intern answering phones while working on his album. A lot of guys were trying to get off the ground, and getaway from what I know. Big reason Manson left as two big egos like that weren’t going to work well. I had another friend graduate school in 2001, knock on his studio and got a PA job for over a decade with the band. The art director was a fan site, and they picked him up till 2013. He seem to like to surround himself constantly with younger, in the know talent. Meanwhile he isolate, but I catch him out at say an Anal Cunt show on a Thursday at 12am on studio break…the guys with him were jerks trying to pick up 17 year old girls to bring back to the studio…I got into with one guy. But Trent always kept quiet and did not take part in any of that. But I dunno, seem as he went into With Teeth, he was exhausted doing it all himself…finally let others in more and gave the accolades and soften up once he got sober. From talking to Trent during his peak, then in 2009…way different person. He was very humble and nice later on. And I enjoyed getting to work around him in even a small capacity. He was a very gracious guy, and I had 9hrs to kill with him. Ate lunch, talked logic, Abelton, synths, he asked if I like a picture and generally was very nice and kept an open door policy to his trailer and very hands on friendly in 2009.
@NikkiBider
@NikkiBider Год назад
Masterpiece
@cyclingninja6780
@cyclingninja6780 Год назад
Fucking Gold! Muchas Gracias, Señor V.
@kadathrekords5667
@kadathrekords5667 Год назад
Love The Rought Mix!
@stevedoesnt
@stevedoesnt Год назад
YOURE THE REAL MVP.
@Hexspa
@Hexspa Год назад
Lots of brilliance
@poisonedpens7390
@poisonedpens7390 Год назад
That picture of Lanegan in situe is amazing.
@andYz00m
@andYz00m Год назад
Lets see how long it takes!
@peyotecody
@peyotecody Год назад
I can never “un-hear” that flute now! Lol
@ryanhayden9235
@ryanhayden9235 Год назад
whats the kick frequency eric boosts that always gives his kick that signature sound of his?!
@us3r11
@us3r11 Год назад
Oh I would love having rough mixes like that 🙂🤤
@thizzyglider555
@thizzyglider555 9 месяцев назад
Love the flutes
@oldguitars
@oldguitars Год назад
I miss Black Market! So many things in my room are from there...
@dekelamar2514
@dekelamar2514 8 месяцев назад
YESSS THIS VIDEO IS BACK!!! :DDD
@gregedenfield1080
@gregedenfield1080 Год назад
I bought an old PV pa head from" black market music" in 2001 (still have it)....kinda weird...also I miss that place...and places like it.
@ump3368
@ump3368 Год назад
The forbidden fruit. DMCA takedown incoming...
@R3TR0R4V3
@R3TR0R4V3 Год назад
Let's hope not. 😬
@suites.74
@suites.74 Год назад
Download and Send me a link
@R3TR0R4V3
@R3TR0R4V3 Год назад
Lol. Dude, just Google it.. You'll see some reddit threads. You can't miss it 👍
@devingrubbs
@devingrubbs Год назад
Josh Homme personally asked for it to come down. EV has mentioned this before. Glad it’s up for now. It can be found elsewhere if you search around though 😉
@rocketman374
@rocketman374 Год назад
​@@devingrubbswhy did he ask for it to be taken down?
@godofgore6667
@godofgore6667 4 месяца назад
Another great video that was taken down had Michael Beinhorn and Warren Huart discuss the recording of "Celebrity Skin" by Hole. It would be awesome if anyone could upload that!
@User-jk8wq
@User-jk8wq 6 месяцев назад
Hearing just how much work Eric put into this record makes me really annoyed that Josh has gone out of his way to discredit his contributions at every possible opportunity over the years. I get he didn't think it was cool to be associated with the guy who produced 3EB and Smash Mouth but for fuck's sake give the man his due for capturing these incredible sounds. #justiceforeric
@isidrott
@isidrott 2 месяца назад
Gold
@ill76er11
@ill76er11 Год назад
This is fucking KILLER!!!
@simaojoseph
@simaojoseph Год назад
AH! Two Gallants!
@us3r11
@us3r11 Год назад
Me at 5:25 - Just pull the mix up, Eric! Me at 6:36 - Aaaah...
@thomaschidgey4957
@thomaschidgey4957 5 месяцев назад
Fuckin amazing, absolutely nailed it with this recording job. I know this comment will go no where probably, but if possible please do a breakdown of god is in the radio, my fave queens track. If you can.
@ofir_likes_beer
@ofir_likes_beer Год назад
I would pay so much money for that PTX
@nigelsmith721
@nigelsmith721 Год назад
Guy Who Did a Thing - "here's how I did it" The Internet - "no it's not!!!"
@fridjon
@fridjon Год назад
So whats the story? They didnt want to acknowledge eric as the recording engineer?
@PhatLvis
@PhatLvis Год назад
Setting the record straight because Homme in an interview had disavowed Valentine's contributions. EV did a remarkable job capturing this sonic tour de force. Kasper, though, was probably the right man to call in for the mix; he'd recently recorded and mixed the Foos' There is Nothing Left to Lose - Grohl's best, and best-sounding, work.
@bealezebub
@bealezebub Год назад
He prolly lying like always
@ricardoavila9228
@ricardoavila9228 Год назад
Oh my god!
@peyotecody
@peyotecody Год назад
FUCKIN AWESOME!!!
@Macarous
@Macarous Год назад
that flute
@JanPanCygan
@JanPanCygan Год назад
👏👏👏
@NatanaelManrique
@NatanaelManrique Год назад
58:50 You're welcome.
@fastsavannah7684
@fastsavannah7684 Год назад
I saw this a while ago in this gentleman’s channel. Is he alright?
@johnduffy8746
@johnduffy8746 Год назад
Release the flute mix!!!!!!!!
@Tony-kc5fi
@Tony-kc5fi Год назад
Does anyone know the backstory, with regards to the claims/rumours that Eric wasn't involved in the recordings.. ? certainly at the beginning of the video it comes across to me that Eric is clearly trying to clarify that he played a big part in the recording of the tracks. I remember catching it the first time and although I picked up on vibe that he was a little 'miffed', generally he seemed super excited to share the process and it was a great informative video. When it went on to be taken down I suspected the tensions between the parties involved were maybe still a little strained... I'm sure some artists/creators like the processes involved when creating to be shrouded in a little mystery and conversely some are keen to talk and share but I suspect it was a little more than that between Josh and Eric..
@godofgore6667
@godofgore6667 Год назад
Josh kicked a girl in the face for taking a photo of him. Dudes got issues
@Tony-kc5fi
@Tony-kc5fi Год назад
@@godofgore6667 yeah saw that 😣....I suppose your gonna make some poor decisions when your of ya t*ts...
@louderthangod
@louderthangod Год назад
I think Eric didn’t do the mix but did complete the tracking. On a podcast with Dean Delray, Josh was not a big fan of Eric.
@joelybarish4618
@joelybarish4618 Год назад
there's been some rumor/speculation that Eric was kind of forced on Josh by the record company looking for more sales. That Josh wasn't particularly thrilled to be working with the guy responsible for Third Eye Blind and Smashmouth. Combine that with Daddy Eric moving them out of their hollywood "comfort zone" and the basic assumption is that Josh did as much he could tolerate doing with Eric and wanted to minimize Eric's contribution. Especially when the record became big. I have zero idea how much of any of that is true.
@bealezebub
@bealezebub Год назад
I’m not sure the newer but he does seems a little pissed about people questioning if he worked on the record or not. That’s part of the reason I went ahead and uploaded the video. Eric doesn’t care, QOTSA does. Fuck them.
@Alchemister5
@Alchemister5 Год назад
Shhh I didn't see this here.
@gregedenfield1080
@gregedenfield1080 Год назад
REBEL!!!!!!!!!!!😁
@songspire
@songspire Год назад
How did Grohl beating the shit out of the cymbal pads not bleed into the drum mics? Did he over dub the cymbal tracks while playing pads on the toms and snare?
@peachmelba1000
@peachmelba1000 Год назад
They used e-drum cymbals while tracking the kit, so the band could hear reference "cymbals" in playback, and of course later, Dave overdubbed the brass cymbal parts separately. Those rubber cymbal pads produce almost nothing acoustically when struck, so I doubt there was any bleed into the kit mics, given how loud the drums themselves would have been.
@Jonnis69
@Jonnis69 Год назад
@@peachmelba1000 you can hear the rubber in some footage but that’s the camera mic. That rubber frequency won’t make it into the drum mic’s. Even if they did a little, a slight eq adjustment and they’re gone.
@thromboid
@thromboid 6 месяцев назад
I think Grohl did something similar on the Killing Joke album, basically recording each drum part separately. Crazy.
@chateaushows9930
@chateaushows9930 Год назад
Homme's lawyers seem a little busy...
@sic_refugium
@sic_refugium 9 месяцев назад
Why is it called "the day in a life"?
@nicorepetto5781
@nicorepetto5781 Год назад
29:00 bass sound
@morbida
@morbida Год назад
TYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY
@Sundaydrumday
@Sundaydrumday 29 дней назад
Dude Eric is so cool, idk what happened at the end of the record that caused all the confusion, but I am sure that it was Homme being a wierdo and not Eric.
@Richard_P_James
@Richard_P_James Год назад
Why was the original taken down? Too many studios party stories?
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Год назад
😏
@kniferideaudio5145
@kniferideaudio5145 Год назад
drums are better on the rough mix IMO
@tomvice
@tomvice Год назад
Is there more of this?
@TT-df9hp
@TT-df9hp Год назад
Sadly no. Eric has his own RU-vid channel but hasn't done another video like this.
@bealezebub
@bealezebub Год назад
Yes, Eric Valentine has plenty of videos like this where he breaks down a song he recorded on his RU-vid page. Just search his name.
@TT-df9hp
@TT-df9hp Год назад
@@bealezebub I can't find more. Which other songs has he done?
@godofgore6667
@godofgore6667 4 месяца назад
Wow 42:17 Josh must've been totally wasted recording that lmao
@MaxNMyles
@MaxNMyles Год назад
So he used a Peavey 51-shitty?
@sn1ffy85
@sn1ffy85 4 месяца назад
Sounds good because of Lanegan.
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