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Making Replacement Shaft and Coupling for an Obsolete Skid Steer Loader - Manual Machining 

Topper Machine LLC
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When you buy used equipment, you assume it is going to last a while. Well, not for my customer. This is out of an old Owatonna Mustang Skid Steer. They didn't have it long and it failed. He was able to source everything but this part. Now, had he not been into it several thousands of dollars, he may have given up.
Considering the terrible repair (farmer fix) the previous owner did, I can't believe it held up at all. Since the coupling was is such bad condition, I decided it was best to just start over and make a new one. And it came out absolutely beautiful.
I hope you enjoy this video of manual machining and the great level of skill needed to reverse engineer and make new parts. Yet again saving a customer thousands of dollars and down time trying to locate parts.
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Комментарии : 203   
@stephenmeeks684
@stephenmeeks684 3 месяца назад
Job shops are a good way to keep old equipment running. Good work on the parts.
@samelloit602
@samelloit602 Год назад
I really like josh's attutude when it comes to perfection
@bernardwill7196
@bernardwill7196 Год назад
Your customer get a better coupling than before. Nice to see a pro handle that. Greetings from Germany.
@terencesullivan7788
@terencesullivan7788 2 месяца назад
Hi just started watching your videos iam a retired engineer of 50yrs nice to see proper skills still being used
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek 2 месяца назад
Gorgeous coupling. My first thought was, "How is Josh going to split that baby?" Using the band saw didn't come to mind, but since you already had the slit it made sense. Thanks for another scintillating video! 🙂
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed 10 месяцев назад
I just totally enjoy seeing a decent cut peel material away and leave that finish. Never gets old. 👍
@TalRohan
@TalRohan Год назад
This appears to be why the majority of people that do it, get into machining...specifically so they can make new bits for old machinery. Good stuff Josh thanks for sharing
@LaLaLand.Germany
@LaLaLand.Germany Год назад
Yes, we can´t save ´em all but we shure can try. I just love it when machinists take some pity and re make something so the old chunk of steel can get a second life. I´m shure the owner WILL take good care of the machine, thanks to You. -Another German
@jimwednt1229
@jimwednt1229 3 месяца назад
I'm always happy to learn something new about subjects and things that i had pretty much all figured out. There's always more to learn! It's so cool that you can make anything, any part or tool you need in your machine shop.
@ronfrance4041
@ronfrance4041 10 месяцев назад
Love this content. My dream is to build a shop and have a lathe and mill some day.
@The_DuMont_Network
@The_DuMont_Network Год назад
You mean you haven't yet machined a quick release for your ring? . Always great to see another Topper video. Hint: It's time for another railroad themed article...
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
Unfortunately, there will be almost no more railroad videos. I was threatened by the FRA with fines for that they saw in the videos. It's not worth a $10K fine.
@dc5723
@dc5723 Месяц назад
What beautiful work of art! Thanks for sharing.
@guyfranks4354
@guyfranks4354 Год назад
Josh, have you considered a silicone wedding band? Several of the other machinist and mechanic channels that I watch wear them. You always have great contenr. Keep up the great work!
@bazookamoose7224
@bazookamoose7224 Год назад
I’ve had to modify slitting arbors to get the extra distance needed too. No one makes good slitting saws any more! You could always try to chill the hand first, apply some olive oil around the ring, then in a boiling water pot heat up a big heavy spoon, then apply that spoon tip to the ring and see if you can get it to expand enough to slip off. Good luck Mr. Topper!
@carlthor91
@carlthor91 Год назад
Josh, new skid-steers are $100k+ these days, thankfully there are good machinists, like you around to help. Good non-obsolete ones are damned expensive as well. Best wishes from the far North.
@PioneerRifleCompany
@PioneerRifleCompany Год назад
You have a good example, here, of when to be precise and when tight tolerances are not so important. Great job!
@hasletjoe5984
@hasletjoe5984 Год назад
Thank you sir! Enjoy this "analog" style work. Thank you
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Год назад
Ouch, the original bodge up looked painful 😢. Great design and Improvement Josh. Thanks for sharing
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Год назад
Great video Josh, I worked in a coal mines for 30 years and got into the machine shop biss so I got my wedding ring tattooed on,lol much safer..
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Год назад
Saw your our warning about finger rings, we can’t wear jewelry at work. Had a coworker partially degloved his ring finger working around the house. The company was going to terminate his employment, half the employees threatened to walkout if they persecuted him in that way. Thanks for sharing.
@walteraddie7925
@walteraddie7925 Год назад
Love how the part turned out. I seen tons of woodruff keys used to hold hubs on to gear boxes. Worked great but rust was always an issue getting apart. The manufacturer's refused to put a dab of grease on before assembly which super annoyed me.
@PLUSHAIRPLANECARPET
@PLUSHAIRPLANECARPET Год назад
you're doing a great job showing the versatility of a lathe and bridgeport combo.. good job
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 Год назад
Top Darts Josh, I like the re-work on the lugs very neat.
@cezao93
@cezao93 Год назад
Nice video. Pure machining, direct to the point.
@robrobitaille4235
@robrobitaille4235 Год назад
As usual, I learned a lot. Thank you for the great content. As a hobby machinist, I enjoy learning techniques from the experts.
@mikep1085
@mikep1085 Год назад
Great job! Its always interesting to see the sequence of how you are going to machine something.
@b.malnit8983
@b.malnit8983 3 дня назад
Great job Josh!
@KW-ei3pi
@KW-ei3pi Год назад
Beautiful parts, Josh. They are no doubt the nicest parts on the old Skid Steer!
@MrKotBonifacy
@MrKotBonifacy 3 месяца назад
The safest design for a swarf hook is "foil sword like" fashion - a large wooden handle (like one used for big files) which gives you a good, safe and secure (and comfortable) grip and there's no way you could put a finger "into it", neither unintentionally/ by accident nor on purpose - and when it gets accidentally yanked forcefully from your hand there are no narrow edges to do much harm to your skin and bones. Then there's a "hemispheric" steel hand guard (doesn't have to be a full hemisphere) followed by a not too long "blade" (obviously), ending in a poker-like hook - which allows you to both pull the swarf and push it away if needed.
@fredhoyt6900
@fredhoyt6900 5 месяцев назад
For a Machine Repair Machinist that apprenticed starting in 1974, watching you work is a pleasure. My question is since the two pieces of the coupling locate on the shaft when installed, how could the bore be egg shaped , physics and all?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 5 месяцев назад
I'm guessing it worked loose at one point. Someone repaired it by building up the inside with weld. It was truly ugly. It was probably out of alignment after that and chewed the crap out of all of it. It was the worst mess I've seen in a long time. Had they not already been thousands of dollars into it before finding this, I would have told them to scrap the machine. Actually I did tell them to scrap the machine.
@fredhoyt6900
@fredhoyt6900 5 месяцев назад
@@TopperMachineLLC My comment was inre: to the comment asking if your new part would have an egg shaped bore due to being split. That would only happen if it was clamped togather without the shaft. That is not the case. The new part could also be made of two pieces of stock, tacked together seperated by a shim. Bore, tap drill, clearance drill, tap and ream. Grind off the tacks, remove the shim now in two pieces, bolt the coupling halves on the shaft. turn assembly as needed for clearance.
@geoffflato2094
@geoffflato2094 6 месяцев назад
Great work as usual. Also can't emphasize enough how dangerous long stringy chips are. Probably 3-4 years ago I cut my middle finger most of the way off with one or those chips on 4140ht. A moment of not thinking was all it took. Got it pieced back together at the hospital and have use of it, but have no feeling at all beyond the cut line.
@ThePottingShedWorkshop
@ThePottingShedWorkshop Год назад
"Parts are not always available". Yup, thats why I have my little machine shop at the bottom of my garden! Good video. I cringed as the slitting saw did its work. I've had bad experiences of them loading up, binding... BANG!
@MrFHLH
@MrFHLH Год назад
Interesting job, excellent work Josh as always, I'm sure the customer will be delighted with.
@joegustin7158
@joegustin7158 Год назад
Great Work On That Part Josh
@RJMachine62
@RJMachine62 Год назад
That turned out really nice!
@joewithrow2345
@joewithrow2345 Год назад
beautiful job, Josh! love old school work
@johnnyholland8765
@johnnyholland8765 Год назад
Great job. I like making old worn out stuff new again. You know I have never ran a slotting saw that didn't have a loping out of round sound to it when it was cutting. Even using a new arbor. That will probably be the newest best looking part on the machine...
@ReaperRestorations
@ReaperRestorations 10 месяцев назад
i ran into a similar issue and kept breaking (cheap) slitting saws. i ended up using a cutting disc on a custom mandrel! it worked though and was pretty damned accurate.
@dennishartford2077
@dennishartford2077 2 месяца назад
Good job 👍
@bobhudson6659
@bobhudson6659 Год назад
Well done. Re wobble never had any luck running slitting saw perfectly concentric despite the best of set up. Also seen same issue with Keith Fenner and Adam Booth who know a good bit more than me.
@DavesTR4A
@DavesTR4A Год назад
I really like you videos Jake. What a great way to justify what it takes to do these repairs!
@mainesail3097
@mainesail3097 Месяц назад
IT'S ON THE OWNER to fix the "repair" and not use it til failure. How many headaches could have been prevented by the owner being more engaged-BUT-it gives work to Mr. Topper-so thank you poor owner
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus Год назад
Looks great Josh, it'll last longer than the skid-steer its going on will lol. Thank you for uploading! 👍👍
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
I'm honestly surprised the skid steer lasted this long. It's an old owatanna mustang. Those things were junk when new.
@thetriode
@thetriode Год назад
Gotta say the chipping characteristics of that material is really interesting. I've always heard that of stainless steel, but never really worked with stainless.
@johnrice6793
@johnrice6793 Год назад
You sir - are one talented fellow.
@lolcec81
@lolcec81 Год назад
Комментарий в поддержку канала и ролика, а также труда мастера.
@alfredsamperi9776
@alfredsamperi9776 4 месяца назад
Nice job, Josh! Regarding “touching off”, I can understand that the cutter has to be spinning so that the measuring system can accurately zero the cutter. But wouldn’t the spinning cutter inadvertently cut into the workpiece, resulting in a false zero?
@bdove7939
@bdove7939 2 месяца назад
Nicely done. Love your new lathe.
@Buddha-of8fk
@Buddha-of8fk 3 месяца назад
I'm a 37 year Journeyman Tool and Die Maker and these was my favorite jobs. Engineering on the fly is fun. The can you make this work again thing is also a good time.
@MICHAEL-ys3pu
@MICHAEL-ys3pu Месяц назад
Hi mate, what is a Journeyman, I have heard of it before and only from America. I am in Australia and the name Journeyman is not used here so can you please tell me what it means, thanks.🇦🇺
@Buddha-of8fk
@Buddha-of8fk Месяц назад
@@MICHAEL-ys3pu Basically means Journeyman Tool and Die Makers have to go through classes like trig, geometry, drafting etc. at the same time we go through the apprentice program where we have certain amount of hours on each machine. Lathe, horizontal and vertical mill, surface grinder, ram and wire EDM. I don't think it's done anymore like that here. Pretty much everyone specializes on one machine. We did it different in the stone age.
@MICHAEL-ys3pu
@MICHAEL-ys3pu Месяц назад
@@Buddha-of8fk ok thanks mate, I think a Tool maker and a Die maker are two separate apprenticeship here. I am a retired coal miner, I was a Mining supervisor when I retired after 40 years working underground and am now setting up a small workshop at home so that I can get into machining in a small way.
@Buddha-of8fk
@Buddha-of8fk Месяц назад
@@MICHAEL-ys3pu A vertical mill would be the most important. Definitely the most versatile machine. Lathe then surface grinder. Last would be a ram EDM and you can do all kinds of things. It's amazing to take a piece of metal and make something out of it.
@Freetheworldnow
@Freetheworldnow Год назад
Great video. Well done on this one! Also it is a bit of a relief to see some machining on stuff that you can actually show and share all the way with us! Cheers and God Bless.
@joselrodriguez5999
@joselrodriguez5999 Год назад
Interesting and complex job. Great camera takes!
@mfc4591
@mfc4591 Год назад
Your version of the coupling is neater and better ! Have a great Sunday.
@notajp
@notajp Год назад
I recognize that part! I have a 70’s OMC Mustang 1000 skid loader that used that setup. That uses a two piece drive shaft that runs to the drive sprockets in the side housings. They used a belt driven variable drive system like a snowmobile with the driven sheave on the two piece shaft. The drive sheave on the engine is opened and closed hydraulically to vary the speed. The shaft is made as two pieces with the coupler so that you can replace the drive belt. Mine was missing the original Wisconsin V4 engine, as well as many of the variable drive parts, including half of that coupler. I ended up repowering with a 24 hp Onan engine, replaced the two piece shaft with a one piece shaft and just used a chain drive single speed system.
@mikedyson7330
@mikedyson7330 Год назад
Really enjoy your videos, nice work!
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Год назад
Great job buddy thanks for sharing
@paulalmquist5683
@paulalmquist5683 Год назад
Always an interesting project. Lots of variety in your work to keep your imagination primed to figure out how to complete a job. So cool. Thanks for the video.
@thomaschandler8036
@thomaschandler8036 3 месяца назад
good work, enjoyed....
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop Год назад
The coupling you made looks more substantial anyway. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Год назад
Very nice work Josh. Nice process. The customer should be very happy. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson Год назад
Someone really butchered that old coupling. I've never seen anything like that before. It was interesting how you made the new coupling. Having all the right machines made it look easy and no doubt it was easy for you with your experience and having the right machines for the job.
@timmienorrie
@timmienorrie Год назад
Great video, Josh. Interesting techniques. The spade drill was impressively accurate.
@robertcrossley9803
@robertcrossley9803 Год назад
Great video. No cnc just seat of the pants old fashoned maching. Thanks for making the video.
@kevind1865
@kevind1865 Год назад
Circular saw blades do a surprisingly good job as slitting saws. Get one with a thicker kerf, and fewer teeth than you would for wood, and you're good to go. There are lots of size options in the 3-5" range now.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
Thanks I'll look into that.
@Old-bold-pilot
@Old-bold-pilot 4 месяца назад
Excellent. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@wvrockcrusher
@wvrockcrusher Год назад
You have a nice shop, and your work also looks very nice Josh. Owatonna made skid loaders for John Deere too. I have the model 70 with a 23.5 hp Onan engine, which my dad bought new in 1975 for the farm. It's a neat little loader that will get into places others can't and is surprisingly strong for its size. We used it for cleaning stalls in the dairy barns. I repowered it with a 25 hp Honda engine a few years ago which made a huge difference in reliability and power. It uses a double row chain coupling for the drive with one half being a 13 spline to the pumps, and the other half 1 1/8" keyed to the engine. The splines on the pump side were worn out and I could not source a new shaft, so I pulled the pump and disassembled it, built up the shaft, and cut the new splines on the Bridgeport. Had to make my own 60-degree cutter for the splines and because I didn't have a dividing head at the time, I made a 13-hole plate for my spindexer and used that. Been running now for about 500 hours with no issues at all. I can still get some parts from JD for it, and what I can't, I either make or source/adapt other parts to keep her going. I picked up an extremely nice original Brown & Sharpe 10" universal dividing head at auction a while back with all the manuals and tailstock for 150 bucks. I really use it more than I thought I would and have no regrets about getting it. With money getting tight, I'm starting to see quite a bit of welding and machine work through the door for things nobody used to fool with having done. Parts are getting scarce for a lot of equipment now, so I am reaping the benefits of the situation. I left a full-time job last year to work in my shop like you do. I have a 150 ft commute to work, and it feels wonderful to finally work for myself after 10 years of investing in the shop and equipment to start the business. No more corporate BS to put up with and no boss to blame for screw ups...only myself!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
I wish you the best of luck in business. It's a cruel world out there for machine shops. I can tell you horror stories that would make you sick. But, at least when your boss is a dink, you can now tell him off. Lol
@papaburf7275
@papaburf7275 7 месяцев назад
Excellent and very practical work. Thanks for sharing!
@PaulKepnerProductions
@PaulKepnerProductions Год назад
Damn fine work Josh!
@scottthomas5999
@scottthomas5999 Год назад
Nice job. Saved the machine.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@trialetcompagnie4481
@trialetcompagnie4481 Год назад
Super job
@arvinbaguion2041
@arvinbaguion2041 4 месяца назад
very nice Sir..
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Год назад
The ones that welded it up and just clamped it obviously thought the machine was heading for scrap or at least I hope that was their excuse!
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
My guess is they "fixed" it just to sell it. Let someone else deal with it.
@SandyridgeGR
@SandyridgeGR Год назад
Very nice work.
@randydobson1863
@randydobson1863 Год назад
hello josh it's is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks josh friends randy
@randy9715
@randy9715 Год назад
Great video 📹
@timus1767
@timus1767 10 месяцев назад
Very nice, very interesting.
@kimber1958
@kimber1958 Год назад
Excellent job I can’t believe the person before you actually welded it and did no machining.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
I was shocked when I saw it. How could you expect that to last? I've seen some dumb repairs, this is in the top 10
@fricknjeep
@fricknjeep Год назад
hi there good work , john
@freightdawg6762
@freightdawg6762 Год назад
Good Stuff JT
@user-gq5bm6xu5y
@user-gq5bm6xu5y Год назад
master! Well done!!!
@billsales7237
@billsales7237 Год назад
Nice job good video enjoyed.
@juhu34
@juhu34 Год назад
Have some dental floss on hand in the shop to get the ring of, just thread it under the ring and then wrap it around the finger over the knuckle then unravel the inside end of the thread and the ring will creep up of the finger. There are nice demonstrations on youtube 👍
@6NBERLS
@6NBERLS Год назад
Most excellent.
@ValiRossi
@ValiRossi Год назад
That slitting blade might work on the wedding ring. Just kidding.
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
Lol. I doubt it. The ring is titanium.
@Joe___R
@Joe___R Год назад
To get your ring off wrapping the finger with dental floss works.
@ivanhorban340
@ivanhorban340 Месяц назад
I would call it a gun drill. Used to be night lea dman at Carmet Company, carbide manufacturing preform department.
@isbcornbinder
@isbcornbinder Год назад
Very good.
@claudelewis5026
@claudelewis5026 Год назад
amazing work..
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
Thanks a lot 😊
@neffk
@neffk Год назад
Reach is always a problem for slitting saws. And the arbor is always in the way. Particularly I find the bottom section of the arbor to be a problem when slicing small work off of stock held in the vise. I've considered permanently mounting a few saws on dedicated arbors that have no nut on the bottom. That way I could have the saw run true so each tooth takes a bite and the diameter of the arbor is smaller. BTW, if your ring is stuck, use some soap a lubricant and hold your hand above your head so some fluid can drain.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 Год назад
Stefan Gotteswinter did just that with a Proxxon carbide saw blade, me I just bored mine to 16mm to fit my arbour.😊
@jayg9439
@jayg9439 4 месяца назад
.045" abrasive disc to finish slot depth. Lots of rags to catch the dust
@BubbasDad
@BubbasDad 2 месяца назад
Really like watching your work. It seems that it can be very hard to find someone who really knows what they are doing who is younger than 40 or maybe 50. The only thing that makes me nervous is the use of adjustable wrenches.
@wmweekendwarrior1166
@wmweekendwarrior1166 Год назад
Good Stuff
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson Год назад
I'm sure I have something that has a woodruff key, but I can't remember what it is, likely one of my old lawn mowers or chainsaws. Not something you see very often, it's mostly just a regular key-way these days
@danielstellmon5330
@danielstellmon5330 Год назад
Silicone wedding rings were designed for situations like working in the shop. You may want to look into getting one.
@normangiven6436
@normangiven6436 3 дня назад
If the frame is good, and its a good strong durable brand, it is worth fixing. I do it with cars, et a good carcass and go from there.
@tinkerersgarage2944
@tinkerersgarage2944 Год назад
I have my finger because I had my ring on! (Twice) lol
@kkoch666
@kkoch666 Год назад
I dont know anything about this stuff, but why did that first milling pass sound so bad? Or is that normal?
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 Год назад
Great one Josh. Two questions - you spoiled us with that great intro last time, can you give us another ? Wedding ring - how best to stash while working ?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
Man, that intro was well thought out. Some jobs just don't have what it takes to make a great intro. I've spent so much time thinking about this exact subject. I'll keep trying. As for the ring, it usually sits with my non shop glasses on my desk. I get out here, fire up the computer and pull the ring and swap glasses.
@jackjohnson6074
@jackjohnson6074 Год назад
VERY NICE WORK MR TOPPLER. LOVE VIDEOS LIKE THIS KEEP THEM COMING. I USED TO LOVE TO WATCH ATOM FROM ABOMS79, BACK WHEN HE USED TO DO THE REAL WORK LIKE THIS. BUT NOW HE'S TOO COMERICALIZED SO I ENJOY SOMEONE PUTTING OUT THE GOOD VIDEOS LIKE THIS.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Год назад
Good job on that new coupling. I hope that old skid-steer will soon be running. Can’t help but wonder why a larger .125 thick saw wouldn’t have been a better choice for slitting that part?
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC Год назад
I didn't want too big of a gap. Closer to closed will have more shaft engagement and more bolt engagement.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 Год назад
@@TopperMachineLLCI understand. Guess I would have worried more about breaking that thin saw than slightly less bolt and shaft engagement.
@passenger6735
@passenger6735 2 месяца назад
Sounded like someone shot the previous repairer at 3:20.
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