Making the album Ozma with the Melvins in 1989 

Lori has been mysterious since I first met her in 1979.

@@MarkDeutrom Her parents must have been mysterious too.

It's weird but it somehow works. I would probably make different decisions about it now but there's no sight like hindsight...

Her whole life is interesting...Melvins were just a small part of it.

Yeah, that was the story he told me after writing to the address on gluey porch treatments and getting a reply in the mail from him

I wasn't in the loop ....whoever writes the definitive history can research that.

Thanks Yauger. We are overdue to reconnect. Let's do that.

It’s their amp being turned on at the beginning of vile. Phil Manley from trans am Has the studio Ozma was recorded at now

It's an ongoing subject in our conversations....we'll see.

Thanks for sharing the cool story. Nice to hear young people continuing to be inspired to make music as they always will be. Thanks for watching !

I don't think that will be necessary...I'll see what I can do.

@@nonservitium that's a dumb thing to say

@@hankworden3850 you haven't seen my nuts

It was also on the cassette that I had 📼

I moved to the UK in1988 so probably not. Lori is still in the Bay Area.

I feel this record is kind of a definitive post punk statement more than anything. It seems like a collection of experiments but I like that about it.

I remember seeing gluey porch treatments on cassette at Tower Records in Philadelphia. Later, I bought Ozma when new on vinyl.

Brian interview too please!!👊👊👊

B- You maybe somewhat biased, but I'll take it....

Probably because of the bass sound !

Definitely.

Somehow it worked...I have no idea how or why !

I think GPT tunes were just newer and fresher, so there was more enthusiasm for those. Thanks for watching. New video up later tonight.

Plenty of strangeness in there to be sure....still sounds modern.

Everything can always be better but if you change one thing you have something totally different. This is the best Ozma is can be...

I would do it differently now but all that weirdness and unfamiliar stuff is what makes unique...

Thanks for listening.

After not listening to this for a long time, it sounds strangely like avant prog rock to me. Thanks for watching.

It's STILL weird ! I almost feel like I was trying to get the drums to sound like an 80's drum machine...I remember really liking the artificiality of the Bowie Let's Dance LP, even though I think that is real drums...nothing sounds like Ozma and that is part of the beauty of it regardless of the nuts and bolts...

I have since figured out that Candy-O was not on the vinyl...should have done my research ! I can't describe the sound of it it either...it just sounds like Ozma which is what it is....

You should be a music critic ! I wasn't doing a breakdown of the record but more an oral history of it's background and creation. Ozma is simply what the listener wants it to be. It sounds like a bunch of little experiments to me....

Thanks ! It's a strange one, but it has it's own space in the Melvins catalog.

I don't think so.

Thanks for listening !

Nice story ! It sounds weirdly industrial to me now but nothing else sounds like it.

No photos from that as far as I know.

Candy-O might be my favorite tune on that. Don't tell anyone...

@@MarkDeutrom I don't really understand why this makes me so happy.

There's a complexity to all of this that isn't particularly well served by a couple of minutes talking to a camera...just like a lot of things. The fact that this wasn't really discussed in the doc illustrates that, and I appreciate and respect their inclination to skip that. I haven't watched it, so my impressions are all second hand from people such as yourself. My lack of participation in the doc was a completely separate matter that was discussed in person with the film maker before the whole thing started up. I remain unconvinced any of this is still interesting, or requires airing, but certainly fans will remain fans and stay interested in any "new" revelations.... At this point it's virtually archeological, and of little consequence. Thanks for spending your time here.

Thanks !

Thanks for the suggestions. I will use the interwebs to investigate. RE interaction : it's pure luck if you have a "good one" ....people forget that what is a recreational situation for them is a working situation for someone else. I've tried my best to be accessible and polite but I'm only human...thanks for your thoughts and for watching !

@@MarkDeutromWhite Zombie: in their early days, they were a kinda Pussy Galore/Birthday Party/Black Sabbath/Blue Cheer hybrid who were pretty amazing. Bassist Sean wrote all that material out in tablature, which, for a noise rock band, is both impressive and baffling! Not at all the band that Beavis and Butthead broke "Interaction" Yeah, I totally get that - and it was a particularly bad night; Portland, Maine IIRC it was the day after Cobain died? The show was a rough one, all around just nervous energy. Were I older, I would have kept my distance - but I was a kid and you guys were my favorite band, so I just didn't have that sense. I definitely don't hold it against you (but, y'know, I'm glad we talked about it!)

Thanks for watching !

Thanks for the compliment ! Lori is settling comfortably into her older years in a pleasant leafy enclave in the Bay Area. RE "Kicked Out" : I haven't asked and I don't think about it. All water under the bridge now...

@@MarkDeutrom awesome. great to see she’s still got that little bass too. if you interview her ask why she was always playing with upstroke picking

It's what I do...make dreams come true !!

Thanks for watching. Time has a way of creating perspective on the value of some things.

Everyone has their favorite. I will get to GPT at some point. Thanks for watching.

I feel Ozma will always sounds modern. It definitely sits outside of what was trendy in the underground of the time. Lori's parents were great people and I knew them well.

There are plenty of things that happen in life that you have no control over but you can actually control how you react to them to some extent...it's difficult to get beyond emotional reactions to events sometimes but I feel it's a kind of practice that can be developed....it's somewhat complex. Maybe I should do a video about it ! RE FOH : I think the your choice thing was done on their first tour, and I was not on that one. I did the next EU one which started with Reading in the UK. Thanks for your thoughts.

Thanks ! A few people definitely know more than I do on this.

Lori has plenty of strange tales...

Thanks for watching. My accounts are highly selective, and also just my personal perspective on particular events. There's also nothing wrong with a little mystery...

Don't worry...you'll get here also if you're careful.

@@MarkDeutrom Oh trust me l know! That's why l said "Oh wait" once l typed out l was 7.... all the way back in 1988!! Yikes!

I'm thinking it was at the Whiskey in Los Angeles in 1993 before the tour with Primus. I seem to remember Monster Magnet headlining but I'm not sure. Did a few tours before that as sound engineer also.

Not sure if d_walsh meant 1st Melvins show ever but I know you played in early 92, opening for Bad Religion, probably just filling in at that point

I always looked forward to interviews with The Germans since they asked interesting and thoughtful questions. They also had a tendency to impart great importance to relatively insignificant things... I'm painting with a broad brush here, but it might be interesting to see if they still think Ozma is THE Melvins record !

@@MarkDeutrom Well. I only dabbled in Music Journalism, but if I had to answer the question, it would be Houdini, Stoner Witch or Stag and I m not writing this cause I m corresponding with you. Yes. The Germans. Very perculiar, and I can tell cause I m one. Lots of holy cows, and sometimes very insignificant Strong Ideas. I agree. The German music magazine scene doesn t really exist anymore like it did in the Nineties. Of course there s still Rolling Stone and Musik Express, but thru out the 80ies and 90ie and into the 2000es there was a magazine called Spex, which was pretty important if you were into Underground Music, but not only confined to that. That s where I got most of my information starting in the early nineties. They were really good for a while, and turned me on to a lot of great bands like Swell, Palace Brothers, and they were great champions of the Melvins. Maybe you remember being interviewed by them. But the Melvins also had a big Word of Mouth rapport back when and where I grew up. If you knew Music Nerds in Munich in the Nineties, the Melvins were big, along with Ministry, Dinsosaur Jr. It stretched out of course, depending on who you were talking to or hanging out with. I had a great musical acclamation phase there, knowing people who were really into Reggae/Dub, Electronic Music specialists. And stuff I kinda was on my own with like being the greatest Genesis Fan in the World and still am😅

@@MarkDeutrom Concerning your question, if OZMA is still THE Melvins record, I couldn t really tell you, cause I m not reading German Music Press anymore. But my guess is that it is not that big of a relevant question anymore, but I might be wrong. I m kinda hanging out here with the Internet Nerds, or reading books about music occasionally (I just read one about Fugazis "In on the Killtaker" which was really good. It is part of a series called "33/1/3" with books always concentrating on one record. Published by the Book Company "Bloomsbury")

Thank you !

Actually it's Mike & the Melvins

Thanks...I always wondered about that !