Making the Most OVERKILL NAS - Testing 8TB SSD Cache, 10Gbit LAN, 72TB!! 

Sorry Jake

i feel like ugreen have been sponsoring every youtuber on the planet rn

A few points: RAID 5 is unsafe with large (> a few TB) drives, which makes it effectively obsolete. If you lost one, you would be unlikely to be able to rebuild the array without encountering a read error on one of the remaining drives. RAID 5 is also always unsafe without a battery-backed write cache. RAID 6 or RAID 10 would have been a better choice here. They would also give much better write performance.

Such drives are always handy to preserve relevant RU-vid channels, just to reupload, once content is getting lost

Bro used the Hard G less than a min in

This is more helpful than many NAS videos on YT. well done and well deserved.

I've been using NAS for the last 10 years. It makes my life so much easier and faster. The fact that I don't need to remember where I have a file og a movie since it's all on the NAS is great and I can access it from anywhere. Currently I'm still on an old Synology NAS from 2016 but thinking of upgrading in the future. It works so I'm not in a hurry.

love your enthusiasm you remind me of how i was in the late 90's and throughout the 00's keep up the good work matey

Really recommend RAID 10 with as much space as you have!!! RAID 5 will have terrible rebuild times and write performance. 😁👍

This is one of your best vids so far, very cool process and im tempted to get one. The 6 bay having a much stronger CPU is tempting

Great video Vex. Really appreciate your content I listen to after work. One day I'm going to buy a killer gaming rig for Star Citizen and your content is helping me alot. Thanks again!

14:34 that image is pure perfection lol

This review has been the best one I’ve seen so far.. thanks mate.. it’s just a shame that Australia isn’t on the pre-order list!

I love how your videos evolved

this video was very informative and very cool. I can finally see why it can be useful and awesome to have. I kinda wish I had one now 😅

I have backed the 6-bay and 8-bay UGreen NAS on Kickstarter. I already have a 10GbE network and been using NAS'es for years (Synology ones). Can hardly wait to get mine! 😁

Its super cool to see how quality and your content are changing over time you're doing good mate, keep it sick!

the pokemon music at 0:30 I know got recommended to you a million times. it did for me. good choice.

Probably your best vlog to date.

vex, congrats you deserve all these subscribers!

Just Subscribed This was an amazing video Vex :)

I got a 2 disk Synology running since 2014. Still recieving updates for it. Thats important for me when choosing a NAS

12:43 Moment of truth... [drops the router]. Linus!? lol that was the best part of the video.

LOL, I just assembled my NAS. Just gotta get it set up. Funny timing with this video. Of course, my NAS does use 4TB hard drives. I ain't got the scratch for the larger drives.

that speed drop is the cache of the drives is being used up. at first its fast but then it slows because you are limited by the write speeds to the drive vs writing to the cache

This is great. Camera guy is hilarious btw

I got that same Zyxel switch. But the one with 2xSFP+ Port The one disadvantage for me is the power consumption. Its like 2x of any other switch.

Use iperf3 to test the raw connection speed between 2 devices. If you use Linux use NFS instead of SMB, SMB sucks.

This kids editing is on point.

and your is on the internet but for downloading or upload stuff to the internet but if you upload data from your PC to the NAS it will be on your local network which only can be acceessed if you open the port for it so that port can be acessed anywhere if you hvae internet on the NAS and the client(The PC or laptop) to do this securely make a VPN port forword the port and set it to not have a dymainic ip address it changes when your network goes down or it gets disconned and set it to a static local/private ip address so it doesnt change and connect to it from another network like airport wifi and you can access your local stuff on your local ip

That Jake segment genuinely took me out bro lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣SUBBED!!!! Also, as an editor for an events space, I've acquired now 80TB of total storage on my work rig. It's fucking ridiculous.

Good stuff.

Cool video! The NAS looks nice. I wish hard drives would drop in price. My biggest at the moment are two 16 TB Seagate and I'm running low on storage, but I currently run three backups over those two drives and two 4x drive USB based DAS devices with smaller drives running RAID 5. Saving video projects is a big expense. 😅😥

love ugreen

Cool NAS and all, but you HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT KEYBOARD THAT IS. Looks frikkin' awesome.

LACP cannot do link aggregation between ports of different speeds. So just stick with the 10Gbe port like you did. I went with Synology because they have a better software suite but if you don't need all that the Ugreen will do fine. If the Ugreen can do iSCSI, you can also put your Steam library on it. (iSCSI shows up as a local disk in Windows)

I've been doing this a long time (first computer had 1K memory and a hex keyboard and display). I am still not jaded. If that NAS was mine I'd have used RAID6. The chance that a second disk will fail when recovering from a failure is bigger than you would expect. Consider that during a rebuild all used blocks on the surviving drives need to be readable. There is a fair chance that at least one will have problems...

Every remember to do 3-2-1 style backups. At least 3 copies, at least 2 diffent types of media, and at least 1 copy off site. Don't risk only having the data on you NAS.

you saying 72 tbs is overkill :me with 180 tbs 💀

I've tried used drives a couple times, NEVER again... I've yet to have one last longer than a few months in a NAS...

I recently built my NAS Server and I ran into a slight issue. with over 5TB of data while backed up on the NAS with 35Mbps upload speeds, getting that data out of my house and into a remote storage server as a backup of a backup of a backup takes what I like to say is forever! lol

Hey Vex. Could this also be use a recording drive? Suppose I want to record a game, could I just hook it via usb/gigabit and choose it as a recording drive in obs?

Hi Vex, I think you've made a mistake. @ 23:03 You have the SSD cache of 3710.8GBs usable set to 2800GBs. The message says that you'd need to allocate at least 80% of the SSD to cache to prevent data loss. So you should have put in the value of at least 2968.64GBs or to be safe, an even 3000GBs and have the 710.8GBs remaining for faster APP loading.

Now get a big external HDD, connect it to the NAS and set up a crucial data (periodical) backup.

I pre ordered the 6bay version, can't decide what hdds to get. May just get used/recertified... 4x Seagate Exos 14-18TB in raid 6. How loud would you say is the nas and do you have it set to go into idle/low power mode?

"Jake" changed my life

How dare you assume how much storage is more than we need. Rocking 140tb here and out of space almost

So...could you install steam games on the NAS and it loads just as fast as inside your computer if you have an SSD cache???

The transfer speed from and to the nas are bottlenecked by your disks. Mechanical drives cant do much more than what you get at 14.05, even in raid 5. Even in raid 0! And the port at the end of your switch is a SFP port meant for fiber optic cables :)

Which model is your main screen?

Love the intro ❤

if the raid drive dies all your data is gone

72TB ... Hummmmm Depends on how big your Gentlemen's Photography Collection is ? ? lol ....

Want this and I literally have no reason for it... God damn it, am I going to have to become a video editor to literally justify having this set up?!

what keyboard is that? it looks cool!

What video editing software you using?

72 TB is not Overkill that's just a starting point, there's no such thing as too much storage. However there are way better NAS devices from better companies on the market but I am curious since you have the NAS from Ugreen could you do a video where you dump the units firmware?

Vex: most people don't really need 64 gb ram, 8tb cache and 50 tb storage backup. Its definitely unnessasary. also vex: does it anyways while shaming his pc. (tbh he does this every video lmao)

Took ages before You figured out that you need BOTH ways very fast SSD or M.2 AND raid HDD to fully utilize 10Gbit lan :D I build same thing on my Synology NAS: PC has Gen5 M.2 i know overkill and copying to nas pretty much hits the limit of 10G lan around 1gb/s

But what if the NAS itself fails? Can you put the drives into another computer/NAS and read all the data without breaking the RAID configuration?

Have a good one. Peace.

Next Oscar owner no doubt

That twang leaking out.

13:03 1 Gigabit = 125 Megabyte if anyone wondering.

Bro can we can get a greyzone warfare gpu video?

"that ginger guy" lmaoooo

Can you access a nas from another network like the nas is at home and I’m at college on WiFi in a class?

And when it breaks it's proprietary and you basically can do little to help with that.

How do you do cashing?

The Ugreen kickstarter thing for this product is shady to me

RAID 5 with 18TB HDDs scares me...

You made the noobie NAS mistake though, 4 bays isn't enough, You might think it is now but give it a few years! 8 bays is the way to go, Don't have to fill all the HDD bays at once, Add later.

I felt real pain when you dropped the new switch

I salute you for sitting through all the cringe that is Linus Tech Tips so that the rest of us don't have to.

because second hand spinning hard disks are super reliable 😂

Bro is gambling his data hard, with these used seagate drives

There is nothing wrong with your 18 TB drives. The16.4 TB is the formatted size.

Wellcome to NAS clubu You nooooob 😂❤🎉🎉🎉

how tall are you? 😁

11:59 Where did you get that diagram? Because it's wrong. That's not what LAG means. LAG (Link AGgregation) is to make your network connection redundant, so if a port or network cable breaks (cut, shorts out, etc.) you don't lose connection. It doesn't double up the throughput at all. So 12:05 note on screen is wrong. It'll either be 2.5G or 10G, not 12.5G. At best, if setup for this, it can balance the network traffic in such a way to guarantee the port bandwidth. (i.e., if you have 2 ports bonded together at 2.5G speed, if setup correctly, the host can send 1.25G of data down each port, thus achieving the 2.5G speed.)

Good video. I'm not saying anything you don't know but you're way smarter than you pretend to be. Lean into the Jake shit. I like Jake because he's smart and doesn't care who tf knows.

You are rich man, even one 4TB SSD is too expensive for me, even one 10TB+ is sooo expensive.

40 terabytes... This sounds like the start of a bad news story... 😰

I can never understand people not using the right ethernet cable or even knowing what to use (not in this case, on a short run it's fine). Like how even tech people don't really undestand lan cables. I know it usually still works, but the day it is not working right and when you are having weird problems you gonna be mad and exhausted after probably multiple really long troubleshooting sessions. And than most go buy some "quality" CAT 7 or 8 cable with rj45 even though rj45 doesn't even support the specifications the cables support (GG45 does) and think they got the best stuff, even though they've been ripped off. I just don't get it.

Dude impressed with 1gb sec when nvme can achieve 7

This video is funny. But maybe you would have done it little more serious. THere is no point of 4 drive NAS if you intend to put a sensitive data in it as you mentioned in the beginning of the video. For a reliable NAS which you can trust you have to make at least RAIDz2 or RAID6 and this needs at least 6 drives to be justified. I wonder where did you get this switch you put of use and how much it cost ?

UGreen be pushing hard these products :)) Every other TechTuber got one :)) They've been good with the cables though. Ngl Hope they fix their wonky software

so if you have over 8000MB/s external network then "faster". 64Gbps but no. I rather run 4x 8GB/s m.2 raid SSD. oh so my precious data. how about blu-ray roms for backups. raid is not a backup. and you can redo everything if you lose everything.

Jackpot triple 7 on likes.

12:43 xD

72tb... thats cute...

I want one.

I'm afraid of HDDs, though. I've never owned one that didn't die lol. Even now, I have some HDD's (2x7200RPM Seagate 7200.14's in RAID 0 that hit around 380MB/s read speeds and 1x WD Blue "5400-5700 RPM" that was for storage). Bad sectors? Yes. All of 'em. Drives that died in the past? All of 'em. 7 or 8x at least. SSD's? Shiiii.... I got an OLD 120GB SSD in here that still maxes out the S-ATA III speeds of 550MB/s read and 500 MB/s write. No issues. It's like 6-7 years old. Maybe 8. I'm bad with time. My NAS would HAVE to be SSD or M.2 NVME. BUT.. at least with a massive RAID 0+1 set up, you won't lose data WHEN you get that drive that starts dying. Or however you're setting it up, I'm still watching. I love the idea of a NAS. I love networking. Plus, I only have one slot left for a drive on my motherboard. I've got 3x SSD's, 3x HDD's (so, all 6x SATA ports used) and I have 1 of 2 M.2 NVME slots in use. Plan on throwing a 980 Pro or 990 something or other into my PCI-e 4.0 x4 M.2 slot at some point soon. Why? Slow internet. Deleting a game means I have a 6-10 hour download on those 80GB-130GB+ games we got out there. Plus I have 5x security cameras all recording to my dying WD Blue HDD, a few games I rarely play and a bunch of movies and music. But I don't like "working" on that drive, I move recorded gameplay footage to an SSD and use Handbrake, encode it, then move it to the WD Blue 3TB, upload to RU-vid, no one sees it, I end up deleting it anyways because I try and keep 400GB free space on it. I mean, I can either record 2 weeks of footage or a month's worth of footage. I have it set to overwrite at a certain drive space left. I'd want to NAS with 2TB or 4TB M.2 NVMEs. I feel like they'd last a decade without any issues. Sure, I couldn't hit the potential max speeds over network, so SSD's would also be fine, but they cost the same, so why not lol?

If you have a NAS you need to delete some data 😂 Just get cloud backup. NAS doesn't help if your house burns down or it gets nicked.

Raid 5 with spinning rust is very very stupid lol

20:23 huh?

Meanwhile, me having 47Tb out of 99 used :,

w video

spinning disks aren't future proof, they're slow AF

"Recertified Seagate" Yikes.