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While not selling anything

Just look in every city in Europe.

Everything has been done in Christchurch New Zealand over 25 years ago.

​@@antonsjoberg Maybe in North Europe and still not every city.

It's a statutory requirement rather than an innovation, though. Low-floor buses with wheelchair ramps have been standard in the UK since the 90s.

There are busses out there already doing this

Personally I think it would look better in black, It would look really odd if it was red. I like the stylish, sleek look though. Perfect for an airport shuttle bus.

@@abdullahsarker3595 I think black would look nicer but the red does add some vibrancy, national express in the west midlands have some black buses and they definitely look nicer than the red ones,can't wait to see Electric buses on the streets

TFL doesn’t need hype. They need a practical, reliable, cost effective vehicle.

@@brentfoster9138 ok but you aren't going to get a "practical, reliable, cost effective vehicle" if there isn't any hype behind it because it won't be recognized

There is one 69 reg registered bus however I believe it's only a development vehicle so far

Same in Germany and Austria. Practically all bus manufacturers do that, I don't quite understand why it's advertised as a big deal

@@bort_1265 there's so many of these start up companies doing EVs it's hard to tell who is the real deal and who's a sham as everyone thinks they're the next tesla, for me any company who says they're going to put the driver in the middle is an instant red flag for me

It is important ! For example, here in Morocco, the Tram is accessible with a wheelchair but not Buses.

@@bort_1265 actually, it’s very important. For one, having a motorised ramp instead of a manual one. Many wheelchair users complain about drivers telling them they can’t be bothered. In addition, they talked about making sure you had enough stable room to get your ticket and turn around. Most “accessible” buses do not yet offer this. You are fighting the tilt of the bus when getting your ticket and then there is not enough room to turn around, so you are left doing a 3-point, 5-point, etc turn to actually get to your seats, all while the bus driver is already pulling away. Ensuring the side doors and not only the front doors are accessible too is also very important. You may think it’s a lot of marketing nonsense but it actually is rare for an automotive company to put this attention to detail. Most just have a box-ticking attitude to accessibility, doing only the bare minimum to not get into legal trouble.

@@kaitlyn__L Twenty to thirty years ago busses in Germany had motorized ramp. Then they switched to manual ramps. Why? They ar unintuitive to use and with a tiny piece of dirt in the wrong place they don't work. Manual Ramps are easy to use, can't really break and in many cases even passengers can pull them out. The second way accesibility is improved is by redesigning the bus stops so there ist almost no gap or height difference anymore, which is well under way. And people with heavily impeared mobility get free transport on public transport in Germany anyway so no need to buy a ticket.

The only demographic that won't be included in these are the upper class that insist we all take the bus while they drive around in their personal transportation luxury EVs that are heavily tax subsidized by the middle-class.

Agreed 💯

They show footage of an active user manual wheelchair leaving the vehicle later on. Agree it would be good to see the boarding process for that. But that lip size is already similar to automatic sliding doors in supermarkets. Shouldn’t be too much bother, since you have to do a little wheelie to use even most dropped kerbs.

@@ARRIVALUK Cool! I look forward to it. :-)

UPS have ordered 10000 vans I believe?

Yes. Through CIIG Merger Corp.

On the contrary, those buses are primarily seen as accessible by crutch and cane users. Many wheelchair users find there is not enough room to turn around, and also many drivers make a fuss about having to get out to operate the ramp. With a minority outright refusing (but if you call to complain and don’t have a ticket number to cite, they usually can’t help you. You can tell them it’s the number 11 bus which just left x stop all you like, even with the GPS, they claim they can’t identify the bus and driver without a ticket number.) Most wheelchair users explicitly campaign for motorised ramps to be standard explicitly because they are often put off bus travel by the public humiliation of having a driver tell them to try and get on without the ramp before he’ll get out and do it. If you look in disability activist spaces online you’ll see this is an exceedingly common complaint about buses. The bus is already motorised leaning before opening the door - extend the ramp at the same time, for all passengers. Simple. Additionally, this bus design has made sure to not impede on floor space with the grabrails. Many of my wheelchair using friends get a front wheel caught between a grab rail and a trim piece when trying to turn around in the inadequate space (needing a 3-point turn or even a 5-point turn even before getting a stuck wheel) which as already mentioned is something they focused on.

Hos is it looking now? You hope they sell their only bus or those 3 vans that took them 7 years to build?

Or, anywhere else that gets even the slightest bit of snow.

I think the plywood is just simulating a curb, but I agree with you about it being a standard frature on public buses for decades

Even though it’s a feature on existing buses, it’s often woefully inadequate. All my wheelchair using friends went “holy shit an automatic ramp” when I showed them this. They’ve been asking for that for a long time. It’s about getting the little details correct so you can just go about your trip like everyone else - rather than having to awkwardly navigate a cramped bus that wastes half its floor space on metal tubing and ppl with buggies who resent them needing the space.

Lol you invested in this? 🤣🤣🤣

I'm pretty sure the majority of buses in the world have a kneel/ferry lift feature ;)

They start testing soon, www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/21/electric-busmaker-arrival-schedules-first-uk-road-trial

Agreed

Nope. No Trevor Milton here. You could smell the stink on that guy in 30 sec.

If only buses drove around flat warehouses empty. They don’t. They drive up and down hills around narrow roads full of people - no videos of this yet

Agrred

You think they are going to reply to a comment like this?

First you design the product then you start production, this ain't minecraft bro

Many locales offer that already, with a concessionary travel card. It’s certainly a good idea if your area doesn’t have it yet though.

But trolleybuses need infrastructure to be built up to allow them to run, space for cables where there might be none

Trams aren't common in the UK they are only in a few cities - London (pretty limited to one area) and Sheffield come to mind. I can't think of any city in South West that has them either

trams and trolleybuses are much more efficient and cheaper to maintain in the long run. you can still see 40+ year old tram systems still running around the world but not buses. not to mention more capacity as well.

@@defaultmesh but it blocks the traffic-....nvm i think ur right

But inka can made electric bus too

how you know this will be the only colour they have. When big companies will buy this, of course it will get another colour

This is where big money is going until 2030. It only makes sense investors are tuned into young companies in line with the upcoming economic agenda.

@@pedroroque8681 you make it sound like there aren’t already low floor, battery powered buses on the market.

You just need to look at the kWh drawn by electric cars against the average kW output of solar small enough to go on a roof and you’d know it’s actually only a small fraction of the needed power.

Shut up

In what way? People with disabilities have a right to a quality of life and a right to transportation.

I’ve been a bus mechanic for 20 years. This whole video is a comical exercise in form over function.