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Making up a 2 Frame Nuc  

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Some uses for a 2 Frame Nuc:
Queen mating. If a 2 frame nuc is made up early in the season, in West Sussex I can often get 3-4 queens mated in the same colony during the summer, although this will probably be reduced the further north you are. The queens when mated can be left long enough to make sure they are laying O.K. before introducing them to another colony. Once the queens have been removed, another queen cell can be inserted and by the time she is laying there is room for her to do so, because the brood from the previous queen has mostly emerged.
Increase. In my experience, if things go right there will be a sizeable colony at the end of the season, well capable of wintering. If the summer is reasonable, I find there is often little need to feed these colonies in the autumn.
Swarm control. The loss of a frame or two of brood or food from a colony early in the season may delay swarming for a few weeks.
I have used 2 frame nucs successfully for 40 years. If you don't have problems getting queens mated, especially with the first queen, they work very well. If the first queen fails they can be set back a little. I find the addition of a comb of unsealed brood without bees and another Q/C soon brings them back on track, giving a delay of a couple of weeks. If there is a nectar dearth they may need feeding, but that is the same with any small colony.
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@Warren76317
@Warren76317 2 года назад
Thanks for Sharing. I'm a 2nd year beekeeper and used this method to go from 9 to 16 my first year then 13 to 60 this year. Along with grafting my own queens. I remember your Lecture from the National Honey show and enjoyed it very much. Glad to see you now have your own channel and are sharing more of your knowledge of keeping bees. I'll spread the word of your channel.
@springwoodcottage4248
@springwoodcottage4248 2 года назад
Fabulous video, full of interest, practical details & a master class in how to handle honey bees. Super useful, motivating & encouraging. Thank you for sharing!
@houstonsheltonbees814
@houstonsheltonbees814 2 года назад
Great presentation sir👍 I found your write up on Dave Cushman's page. That's what led me here. I have used two frames split before but your write up helped me to use it more for management in the apiary. I believe your book will be well received. I certainly would appreciate a copy in my library. Many thanks 👍 good health to you and your family, hello from Kentucky mountains USA 👍
@davecavana1031
@davecavana1031 2 года назад
Brilliant talk Roger thank you
@BrooklandsHoneyBees
@BrooklandsHoneyBees 2 года назад
Great video thanks for sharing :)
@dcypherd
@dcypherd Год назад
Robert needs to do more videos in the apiary!
@martinbooth6040
@martinbooth6040 2 года назад
I really enjoyed the video, I only have 2 hives and about to start my second year. I like the way you do it, can I replicate but with letting the Bee’s in the new Nuc make their own queen cells and hence Queen, instead of installing a queen cell from another Hive. Would that work?
@mmb_MeAndMyBees
@mmb_MeAndMyBees Год назад
Yes. Remember : Re Drones needed ! (Spring to mid Summer) ideal Queen rearing time. 👀 Have you mature Drones for Mating purposes. (Check re your Area / Weather too.) And : if you have a Frame of Brood in all Stages (Eggs, Larva, Capped etc. ) Make sure theirs No Queen on that Frame (in the Transfer to the Nuc !) Add it, to x5 Frame Nuc, either depress the Comb in to make a flat Dent under x1 Day Old Larva (tiniest "Comma" the better !) Or some cut "W" to have downward pointy bit to aid Queen Cell development. Think dents cause less destruction in my opinion. MEMO : Eggs x3 Days from lay, next x1 Day that's your "Lava to choose." 😉 By making a Dent, or cutting Comb slightly away under that Larva, or several Spaced not cells side by side re Larva's, aids the Nurse Bees to Draw "Down" at 90 degree Queen Cells (aka in Shell Peanuts !) MUST check before day x14 from Egg stage :these Queen Cells. (Queens hatch AND can Sting Kill Sister (younger) Queens before they hatch by x15 Day, or true x16th** Day if "one Larva, say, could be hours older** than its sibling !!! Sting-aggedon 👀 happens to any unprotected Cell. So Cut and Move. Or Cage each one ! See below: * Keep "one" as the best (*Harvest and cut out all others for Nucs, or Cut out carefully and add into Roller Cages) on a DIY holder Frame and "bank" them, in same Nuc, until all Hatched: then make more Nucs. Some might not hatch, better to wait then prep Nucs needed (Caged Cells !!!) Tip : Mini Mating Nucs only need a large Cup of Bees. But they grow (could Swarm !) Get your Hatched Virgins Mated, use yourself, or Sell, or give to your Bee Club, to make up Newbie Beek Nucs. 😉 Hope this helps. 😎 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 Happy Beekeeping 2023 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 Better Queen Cells get made if the "Nuc" is stuffed with Nurse Bees (non fliers!) And you feed them loads of 1:1 Syrup, and Pollen. Either Sub and some Syrup. Or a Natural Honey Frame with inbedded Pollen (many Colours) and Bee Bread (Bees spit Nectar and Pollen up, polish it, store it.) See Cells with Sticky Shiney Coloured indented Re stored 'Bee bread'. (Often on edge of Brood Nest.) Both these gets Royal Jelly secreted by Nurse Bees and after x3 Day re Egg, that's what gets more Royal Jelly to become your Queen(s) ! So pre Cell Making, : feed, feed, feed, then add your 'donor' Frame. That way Larva are treated like 'Royalty' ! 👍 Also check x3 Weeks of Weather Before Queen Rearing ! Wet 'when a Cell' = doesn't matter. Wet and Soggy on say x20th Day is disaster Mating situation. So plan Weather, Work, Holiday around "Queen Cell" timing ! 🙃
@TheSoilandGreen
@TheSoilandGreen 2 года назад
Bigger isn’t better in queens I guess, that hive is stuff full. @20:51
@bobwebber8521
@bobwebber8521 Год назад
First time visit. Good video and commentary. Two things. I like the metal frame separators , do you have a pattern for them please and I also like the veil you are using. Where did you get that if I may ask. Thanks so much.
@rogerpatterson3167
@rogerpatterson3167 Год назад
They are standard castellated spacers. I use long lug frames, so they suit me well. I have used them for well over 50 years. They do get a lot of negative comments, but mainly from people who have never used them. I have never worn a beesuit or tunic in my life, always a simple veil like the one in the video. Only a few suppliers stock them now, but I have acquired a stock of them! You can get similar ones online, but what is important is the ring to keep the mesh away from your face. Some don't have them. Roger
@bobwebber8521
@bobwebber8521 Год назад
@@rogerpatterson3167 Thank you Roger.
@livingadamman7994
@livingadamman7994 Год назад
Hi thanks for the video. I plan to do some mated splits into 5 frame boxes with some italian queens ordered in late spring in Australia. I plan to get resorces of food and bees from a double 10 frame hive that went queenless and filled up both boxes with pollen and nectar, and capped brood from other hives. I plan to shake bees in onto cleared frames and I believe this seperates the nurse and field force which fly back to the doner hive as you make the nucs and the nurse bees walk into nuc or fall in when you shake the bees. Then a few hours later after moving 5 km drop in a mated queen cage with candy, and maybe add a small bag of syrup on top of frames. Then requeen the left overs of the doner hive which has no brood I might need to add some drawn comb. Any thoughts on this plan, suggestions. I've done this with 85% success before but interested in any suggestions on how to do better?
@rogerpatterson3167
@rogerpatterson3167 Год назад
If you are moving them 5km there is no need to use only non-flying bees, as probaly only a few will fly home. I don't feed nucs unless absolutely necessary. You seem to be giving them enough in the combs anyway.
@livingadamman7994
@livingadamman7994 Год назад
@@rogerpatterson3167 Yes, the idea is that the field force are older and more likely to take out the new queen, the idea to give syrup was not because they need it as they don't but that it might help the nuc accept the mated queen easier and mitigarte them balling her, at rthew cost of these queens I don't want to lose one and have a failed nuc of resorces to deal with. The capped brood would give no options for the nuc to raise an emergency cell, and when hatched build the field force while the queen gets laying. Conditions are currently perfect
@tinacalifano5023
@tinacalifano5023 2 года назад
I love your videos ❤️🕊❤️ Do you worry about the ants? I have Argentina ants and they have killed some of my bee hives🥺 If a piece of grass gets to high and touches my stand thousands and thousands of ants are in my hive stealing all there food and the brood and they even eat the bees ,it looks like🥺 I have to have moats around my hives with water in them so the thousands and thousands of ants don’t get to them. If i set something down the ants are all over it in mins Any suggestions of what to do about the ants ❤️🕊❤️ Hive beetles are bad here also Any suggestions ❤️🕊❤️ Thank You So Much❤️🕊❤️
@fishmut
@fishmut 2 года назад
I agree with you Tina Califano ants will move your bees out of a hive in a jiffy especially when they find the honey source and other bits they like , new beeks keep ants away from your hives , they are not bees friends, don’t get sloppy leaving ants in your hives if you want to keep bees in them.
@ronbolejack1803
@ronbolejack1803 11 месяцев назад
Yes i was concerned about ants being dumped in the hive as well then you it again a little bit in the second hive and i started thinking maybe you're using ants as veoa mite control. Idk. I have bees that live in an exterior wall of house so I'm thinking about caching them and starting a hive. I blocked their entrance with a deep box and ten foundation frames. It's been like that for two months and bee's are not cooperative they haven't dron any comb they just go through and into their hive. I'm probably going to have to cut them out of the wall. O'well. The comments suggest that the ants aren't good veroa mite security O'well there as well. Why haven't any of these researchers supported creating a weaker veroa mite to breed dying or crippled veroa mites.
@marcchitryn137
@marcchitryn137 2 года назад
You lost me when you opened hive to find loads ants and eggs and then clumsily tipped them into your hive…..😫🤷‍♂️
@BIBBA_UK
@BIBBA_UK 2 года назад
Thanks for your comment Marc, which I don’t mind. All my videos are unscripted, so what you see is real beekeeping, not set up for the camera. That apiary is in a very rural area, where it is common to have ants inside roofs and even inside the hives. I don’t think “clumsily” is appropriate, because I didn’t handle roughly or knock the hive about. As I think can be seen, my main concern was to look for the queen on the underside of the crown board. If I had have knocked the ants out, I may have lost the queen if she was there. Roger
@marcchitryn137
@marcchitryn137 2 года назад
@@BIBBA_UK fair point, of course criticism is so very easy and I had very loose keyboard warrior fingers that day 🤣🤣🤣🐝
@fishmut
@fishmut 2 года назад
Just my 2 cents worth here , that’s is I have lost a couple of colonies due to ant infestation, good bye bees then wax moth moves in and takes over the show , my pet hate is ants anywhere near my hives let alone on them or in them , then there is hive beetles , that’s another story I’ll leave for another video lol.
@BucksBeesS.C.
@BucksBeesS.C. Год назад
@@fishmut i had luck in Darlington S.C. using peperment candy. Just a idea for hive beetles.
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