Making Vegan Deli Meat that Actually Tastes Good 

You are amazing and did not deserve how you were treated by Grace Meyer and the admins of their group. You always give credit to the creators and their food. No excuse for how you were treated. Love you and your content!

Just so you know, there are hundreds of comments in the offending post in that group in your defence. Mine included. You always credit the creators, and you do great work. Thanks for the videos!

I brined seitan for 9 days and baked it in a Dutch oven for 3 hours coated in oil. It was a lovely sandwich “meat”

That looks AWESOME Mark!!! Deserves to go viral!!🔥🙌

We love you mark!!! That Facebook group SUCKS. Tons of people just left because of what just happened (including myself) keep up with the good work you’re amazing!!!

Personally I put my seitan in a saucepan when I'm adding the seasonings. The gluten becomes stretchier with the heat so you can add all the spices and if it's too hard to incorporate it well, I also add chickpea flour

I'm sorry that you're involved in completely unnecessary FB group drama. You are nothing but nice, respectful, and professional. That woman is a complete psycho for making a big deal over this. Great video! Thanks!

Hey Mark!!! Just wanted to let you know that you have tons of fans in that Facebook group that banned you for no reason. We support you and that admin was so unnecessarily rude. Keep doing what you’re doing, your recipes are fantastic.

This one is by far the best-looking vegan meat I've ever seen. Thank you for making such quality videos :) Sending cheers from Korea!

Just want to add another supportive voice from the washed flour seitan group. Admin has been a power tripper from the start and the thread in question is reaching 400 comments in support. The group generally supports your content it's just a couple of admins who are jealous and unhinged lmao

Just found your channel via the weird admin‘s post on the WTF group and already spotted so many cool recipes I wanna try! Your food looks delicious!

Love how excited you get! I’m the same in my vegan kitchen and my kids are my only audience, lol! Lots of “yes, good job Mom...” (and occasional eye rolling)

You are awesome!! Every video is always so surprising! And I really like your positive attitude ☺️, the way you laugh is a mood booster. Love from Italy!

You’re my absolute fave man! The admin on that page are tripping. You do you and keep being awesome. The fact that you always shout out people and give credit where it’s due is so wonderful.

Idk anything about the whole Facebook group incident but I just found your YT page a few days ago and am honestly loving your content. I've been a vegetarian for 18 years and have never made my own seitan because I've been too afraid to make one. Your videos is giving the strength to dive in and make one. Thank you for this! I'll definitely be trying out both the kneading and no kneading seitan from your other video.

You made it look so much simpler thank you! Ive been wanting to try this to make my own meat for a while but all the recipes have looked a bit scary. This makes so much more sense!

I’m enjoying your videos! I discovered you when reading about some seitan drama, lol. I missed said drama, but learned there was a “nice” group, joined it, and read about you & Oncle Hu. I tried making seitan waaaay back in the 80’s...I’m so impressed with how things have improved!

😳 I just got banned from the group for saying that the whole thing with the group admin/creator is level expert petty. Which exactly proves my point. Love you Stache! You're my favorite chef and a class act. Thanks for all you give.

I am continually floored by the videos on this channel and the meat substitutes that are created! Fantastic.

I’ve been binging your videos, you’re amazing. Thank you for showing us this. 🤌🏽

I came here after the post in the FB group. All I can say was that was odd af and now you have gained a new subscriber. Looking forward to binge watching all your videos!!!

Been a member of that group for almost a year now, just left and have subscribed to you. Pretty certain about 95% of the members of the group vocalised that the way the admins acted was completely out of line. Full support to you, looking forward to your videos from here on out!

Your videos help a lot of people such as myself. Thank you for your work.

Great job Mark! Keep up with good work! Proud of you.

I’ve watched since before Daym, and you’ve really come far! Nice job man!

Idk why those FB ppl were so rude to you. You seem like a genuinely nice person and me and lots of other ppl really like and appreciate your videos. I learned a lot from watching your channel I love all your experiments. There are also other seitan and washed flour groups on FB that are not mental. Good work! 💚

I love your creative cooking, it's so much fun to watch! I have to try this for sure!

Omg it looks amazing!! 😍 Thanks for this video! 💚 I’ve always just enjoyed watching you create all these good looking vegan meats and cheeses and I think I’m actually gonna try making this one, finally. Wish me luck 😁

I just went full vegan two months ago and have been buying impossible paties and all things vegan. Very excited I found your video. Recipe looks great, will make this week. Thank you.

I love your recipes, I can't wait to try it

Mmmmmmmm..... looks delicious! Can't wait to try this recipe, thanks for sharing it with us 😊😋👍

Love the channel. Thanks for doing what you do 🙌

I was so sad when I knew that you were kicked out :((( I was so happy that you finally found out about the method.

Grace Meyer is in no way a representation of all the vegans. The members of that group inc. me actually support you and are on your side.

Thank you for all your wonderful recipes !

I love your channel!! Gone in a great direction & your creations are so cooool!

I asked Grace why she made such a big deal out of the situation when you clearly credited Oncle Hu and group and she kicked me out of it haha. seriously thanks for this video, I sometimes struggle with doing seitan just from a recipe. So thank you for making a video, it helps a lot!

Got kicked out the group for just saying, I can't understand all the trouble. Now you've got one more subscriber. :D

I love watching your videos. They are so creative!

OMG, this is awesome, you are amazing!! Thank you so much for sharing this....

Love the WTF method! Brings back many a memory of making seitan when I was younger before we knew of (or could find) gluten flour.

Hey love u mark don’t listen to grace Meyer you did nothing wrong and I’ve been dying to try this recipe form the group and so glad you were able to show it in video so helpful and looks so good thank you!!

Your channel is gonna blow up soon! Love your content!

Keep making awesome recipes Sauce Stache❤️

I've said it once before, and I'll say it again. My brother in law is a vegan, and watching your show gives me wonderful insight into what he might eat. I am a meat lover, but i always find these vegan recipes to be rather fascinating. So much you can do with plant based proteins!

Hugs Mark, that lady was way out of line. You were doing her a favour and I still can't work out what she was upset about. So many joined the group after your comment (like me) and so many defended you and got booted (like me, but I was in the process of leaving anyway). Hopefully we could ask Oncle Hu if he had any more recipes and if he could share them on 'The Washed Flour and Other Seitan Recipes and Methods'. Nicer name and MUCH nicer admins. Can't wait to make this and the Swiss cheese recipe. Keep up the great content. AND BTW, I'm a convert to mushroom powder!!!

Thank you for your recipes!

Thanks so much for this video! I'm already a member of that Facebook group, and I marvel at what people can produce but it sometimes sounds so complicated when I see it written out. Your video has made me feel like I can make this (and I probably will now) so thank you again!!

Well, I didn’t know about your channel prior to WTF group drama but looks great so I rather subscribe here and leave the drama group 🤷🏼‍♀️

i'm making that stuff and keeping it raw next halloween, to use for my costume

You blow me away every single time! Idk how you do it man

That this-is-so-tasty chuckle gets me every time

Absolutely crazy! Just logged on and saw the angry post. You did nothing wrong. So many people standing behind you though!

You should join the group "The Washed Flour and Other Seitan Recipes and Methods"! They're great and really nice!

This looks phenomenal! Can’t wait to try this method

that looks awesome mark!!!deserves to go viral!!

I love your perfect credit etiquette and sharing amazing recipes, and then seeing what you create from them when you get to wondering about the technique drawing from what you've learned and created previously. Your channel is bangin'. Love me some delicious vegan fare.

It’s pretty funny how everyone is leaving that mangled brain group and joining the other “friendlier” flour washing seitan group and this whole event is now known as Sauce Stache-gate 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

I love it when you laugh happy about the results!

Saw this. Tried it. Love it! Thank you bunches!! 💜💜💙💙💜💜

Love your laugh of success!! At 5:40 😂😇

The lady running that Facebook group is KRAZY!!! She even has a cat name “satan” 🤣 Anywho I am so glad so much drama was created over this video because it brought me here!!!! All your videos look awesome and I can’t wait to start adding some of these recipes to my life!! I definitely needed this visual on how to make this recipe so thank you for this video!!!

I'm not even gonna lie. I've been seeing a bunch of your videos and your food looks delicious.

Love all of your videos

Gotta say I’m here after seeing the post in the group... i’m leaving and joining the group mentioned in another comment by Miduchalan1

Anyone who isn’t part of that Facebook group he gave credit to: read the comments here before joining!!! The admin was super rude about him using a recipe from the group and has been banning people for defending him.

I love sandwiches and this one looks amazing!!! Not sure I’m ready for all the work involved with making this though 😕 but I’d definitely pay for one!! Great job and I just subscribed 😋

as someone in the group, i was super shocked to see she kicked you. uncalled for and extremely rude. im so glad your sharing your success with the method on here! i love it

OMG I bet this method would work great to make vegan corned beef! Can you imagine it?? I love a good deli style Reuben sandwich. Yum, yum, yum!

OMG!!! I have to try this.

@Sauce Stache You are total awesome!

Love your vids so creative and positive

Wow, imagine with all that's happening in the US of A that folks are angrily passionate about making seitan? Love ya Mark, later gater.

This is awesome :D Honestly, I've been so scared to try WTF seitan but it absolutely seems to be worth it! the texture seems so much better than the VWG one! And actually, not that hard to make, which is very surprising ;D I'll only wait for your next video so that I have sth to do with that starchy water! 2:40 100% representative of the group name XD Sending you all the good vibes! Stay safe and have a great week ahead!

Amazing!!! This looks so delicious🤩

Your laugh though... I can hear the pure pleasure in it ... it’s dangerously contagious ... in a good way :)

The Facebook group sucks! I joined the group today because of this post. Couldn't believe how they acted towards you and expressed it!! Haha I then was kicked out the group! Okay with me because I was leaving regardless! Haha they are lunatics!!

I'm so sorry about the way the admins of the WTF group responded to you praising them. I saw the post and was baffled by that behavior. Well, I'm banned too now but I'm glad my comment recommending everyone to go subscribe to your channel and like your videos got a few likes and comments before I was booted! You definitely deserve the love!

I wish this man had a traveling food truck or something, so I can taste his recipes b4 I try to make them myself. I’m not even vegan and have no idea what these things are supposed to taste like but you bloody modern vegans with your cool recipes keep making me want to try things.

Definitely going to try this one. Thanks!

I am concerned about what will happen to this video. Please don't delete it because of the drama from that weirdo. I follow your videos way more often than that page. She was super ugly to me too. Just unstable I guess. I guarantee every single person that requested membership yes because of you will be leaving. Keep making these amazing videos. The content is always what I hope for and well made. Love your wonderful personality and when you have your wife taste test. One of my favorite videos was the burger with your dad. Have a wonderful day, sir.

I'm in that group! It's very interesting!

This looks so good. Can't wait to try it

I'm in that Facebook group! I'm so excited my favorite vegan youtuber is a member! I dont usually post tho, just trying to learn

I've been making wtf method of seitan since this Spring (though I did make it in about '95 with results that tasted like dog food, ha). I'm SO sorry that the admin of Mangled Brains did what she did. She has quite the ego. Here is the method I used for pastrami (copied from the group): Vegan pastrami! I think I'm going to marinate it! I just make a huge (1600 grams, over 3 lbs) dough ball of all purpose flour with salt. Washed it a few hours later, let it rest while I gathered pastrami seasonings. I knotted it up, then I steamed it in soy sauce, Worcestershire, smoked salt, mesquite liquid smoke, brown sugar and water, adding up to 2 cups of water in my Instapot. Then I fried it in my skillet, and then put what was left of the 2 cups and simmered. Sliced thinly with my food slicer after it cooled. Then I marinated it with soy sauce, vegan Pampa brand Worcestershire sauce (cheap and good), brown sugar, smiled hickory salt, mesquite liquid smoke, a little red yeast rice powder, black pepper, and olive oil. Based on the recipe from the Seitan and Beyond cookbook. I mixed in the red food coloring after adding most of the water to the dough.

I'm trying this for christmas. Wish me luck

I’m so so soooo excited to try this!!!

I'm inspired to try this method. We have been craving some sandwiches and this looks delicious!

Hi Mark- I couldn’t believe the s**t that went down in that FB group. It’s beyond ridiculous and you didn’t deserve any of it. The silver lining is that I’m a subscriber to your RU-vid page now though!

Once you hear the laugh, that’s when you know he nailed it 😂

Fascinating! A whole new world has suddenly opened for me.

The Seitan's Little Helpers group on FB would love to have you join, Mark! Thank you for continuing with all the science-y stuff!

Today I have tried it for the first time wit some different seasoning.....it is absolutely great ! Believe me, I will continue to find the best result for me ! Thanks a lot for the inspiration 🙃👍👍👍👍

I would love to see your take on a vegan pepperoni! I haven’t found a recipe yet that is quite right and all of the store bought pepperoni falls short.

Thank you for sharing this! 😊

I forgot I was in that group until I saw some post about you. Such drama in that group over nothing from the admin, lol. I’ve been watching your videos for over a year now, what you’re doing is great. Keep up with the awesome videos, you’re a cooking genius 🙂

So last night was fun! 😂 I’ve also been banned from that group calling out the nonsense. Thank you for your videos they are so informative and inspiring ❤️ It’s appreciated x

Found you as the result of that psycho admin's confusing upset. I'm excited to explore your little corner of the internet!

That's restaurant quality right there, Mark-- great job!! 👍

Oooh! Im experimenting with seitan at home. Thanks for sharing!