Good timing this video. I went out to the riding school on Friday to brush up on some of my skills I felt were getting sloppy when I ride. It's almost 9 years since I got my motorcycle licence. It was the best 2 hours for me. I recommend every rider should go back to riding school to brush up on their riding skills.
Why not just ride on normal road instead of going to riding school? You have to pay if you go to the school right? Since you already have your license can just ride on the road right?
it look not difficult ... but i never try out motorcycle in my life before "just know bike got manual as well" i thought just turn and go ..... xD haha
I enrolled my wife with Akademi Propandu, she got no bike experience & wanted to do B Full. The staff there actually **discouraged** her right from the beginning. On her first lesson, she was told straight up to go home learn on someone else's bike until she becomes good, then come back to resume classes. I was like... WTF man?? Apparently driving schools like that don't teach u to ride, they don't care & to them if you are a noob it ain't their friggin problem so get lost & learn to ride someplace else. They only teach u how to pass the JPJ test. Most Malaysians can't even tell the difference between the two, which is why got so many accidents.
Did they discourage before signing up or after signed up then the instructor "advise" to go learn the basics by yourself? If it is the latter (after sign up) just report them and make a big issue, via FB posting or such.. It's their duty (which they are paid for) to provide all the necessary lessons. If they ask you to go self learn first then only sign up with them, technically can't say much since nothing was signed yet. It's a f**ked up situation and system but this is Malaysia, not surprising anymore.
@@thesighbored Of course after paying lah. It was during the ceramah before taking L license that the speaker told her it's not good for ladies to take B Full, better take B2. When she passed her L exam, she made the appointment for classes.... but on her first class they told her to go home learn from somebody else on someone else's bike first and come back to continue classes when she becomes good. It was at this point that I realized driving schools don't teach you how to ride, they only teach you how to pass the JPJ test. Which is why if you show up at a B Full class without any riding experience, they'll tell you to piss off & take that problem elsewhere. Ye lah... how to teach students how to pass the JPJ test if they don't already know how to ride a bike, right? Teaching you how to ride a bike is not the driving school's problem. Should be banned from calling themselves DRIVING SCHOOL. Should be called JPJ TEST PREPARATORY CENTRES.
Actually it's your right since you paid for the lessons and there was no clause saying you need to know how to ride beforehand.. I would take down all the instructors info and lodge a complain/report to the management.. Also mention that you will be posting on all social media platforms warning public about this scam.. See what's their response.
I don't think all schools are like that, some teach but start on the moped if the student really zero riding experience.. Once used to moped they will move them to the big bike..
6 years ago i did my B full at Metro Driving Subang. i didn't know how to ride a bike before and the trainer just ask me if i know how to ride a bicyle which i said yes than he say it's easy just get on the EX5 bike for B2. Familiries myself with the bike before change to ER6 for B Full.I passed my license with just one try
@@snpro21 Chill sikit boss.. If the school or JPJ that give them the right to be school didn't do their quality check frequently (even though the exam held there every week), what can we do.. Just smile and laugh.. 🤡
That's good you have the experience of dropping the big heavy bike and picking it up.. Better to drop the school's one than your own. At least you know how it feels to drop and the technique to pick it up so if you ever encounter the same situation you won't panic.
I'm not 100% sure but I don't recall needing to pay for damages. You are learning after all so it's possible someone might drop the bike accidentally. How did you damage the bike, going at such low speed I can't imagine getting it badly damaged mostly just scratches? Need to read your T&C when you signed up for the package what's chargeable and what's not..
@@fairulnizam9111 I think the driving academy has already charged for accident insurance in the entire fee to get a license. Cars and ourselves have insurance coverage.
Thank you very much for putting this up - I will be taking my first B full training session soon, LOL. The entire video gives me some heads up and hope it's still relevant. Hope I can pass in my first attempt lar.
Glad it helps you out and good to hear you are going to the driving school to take up lessons and get your license.. Riding motorcycles can be awesome just take care and ride safe.
khamis (15/6/23) baru lepas jpj test selepas 2 kali gagal (ambil b full terus) masa jpj test tu tak buat rsm, titi macam laju² gak lah buat, brek kecemasan cecah garisan kuning, kaki dah standby kat akhir selekoh tajam sebelum garisan kuning (kat metro subang tu selekoh tajam sebelum garisan kuning dia macam menurun). selamat jpj tu bagi lulus masa kelas lagi malu, lepas clutch laju² sebab ingat dah neutral sekali stall terjatuh motor, tak nampak neutral indicator tu menyala. terjatuh masa buat nombor 8 sebab leka dan tak fokus
The part at 7:15 where you are zig zagging betwen the cones you are stopping between the cones which is a mandatory mistake which may lead you to fail the entire bahagian 2 beside hitting the cone or the curb on both sides.
Yes you cannot stop there, I mentioned it as a blooper or thing that you cannot do. For this case the rider didn't make sure the space ahead for emergency stop section was clear when doing the zig-zag maybe because it's training time. In exam time you have to wait your turn once it is clear to begin your section test.
which is why we need to retake license if we want to use it on other country. I also hope our country do something about the method here shown in the video. Way too easy to pass. Sometimes even the official took bribe to pass the students.
Yes it's quite simple (and possible to bribe although not worth the cost), in a way it's good since easy to pass, but it doesn't make for competent rider, however if you can survive on our busy Asian urban roads you actually have more road experience than in other regions. 😂
As a person who has passed his first motorcycle license in Dubai in 1998(no distinction between capacity back then), then the "B" in Malaysia in 2010, and finally the "R" in Australia 2017 but I can clearly say the test is the same. The same figure 8's, slow riding in straight line, cones, emergency braking, bla bla bla. Its all the same. So what makes it harder in Europe?
Oh we have that kind of thing here too for sure.. But the last I heard it was double or more than double the cost if you just took the normal package and spend some time with training (for the hours) & taking the exam. Even if you did pay there's no guarantee you'll get your license, AND might have possibility to be asked for more due to some unforseen difficulties or such. Bottom line is, it's not worth the gamble and the price.. Just take it the normal way.
I'm now taking my motorcycle license too. I mean i can ride motorcycle in general (not pro but ok). I'm okay at 8 and sharp corner and emergency brake. But sucks at obstacles, slalom and small bridge 😂😅
You just need to practice how much space you need to tip the bike in to pass the obstacles and slalom, then just focus looking ahead instead of down at the bridge. The bridge itself is not too narrow, so just look ahead in a straight line, and just countdown in your mind for the minimum time required. You can slow the bike down using the rear brake to make it less jerky than using the front brakes.
Me last time..VIRAGO...perghhh...brake x makan,bike shaking macam nak runtuh, clutch panjang gila and........side mirror will slowly out of position as the bike vibrate..adeh...memori betul lah
Now so lucky ride naked bike for practical. My days was riding those cruiser, jaguh or virago if not mistaken...legs get burn, and all the bikes handle senget abit.
Do you mean if someone has a car driver license, they can ride a motorcycle legally? No, they will need a valid motorcycle driver license. If you are asking if someone that knows how to drive a car, will automatically know how to ride a motorcycle, the answer is "maybe". The concept of operating a manual car with gear and clutch is similar to a motorcycle, but the position of these components are different, so they might need time to learn that. Also the handling of a motorcycle is different with driving a car with steering wheel, not to mention various others things.
@@thesighbored ahh i see ! and i also saw the lower cc bikes for B2 is cub bikes. wish singapore would allow learners to learn using that bike instead of street bike cb190r :(
I don't know exactly but my guess is that they don't want the streets flooded with cubs maybe. Or the COE for cubs is too pricey so not considered for people to buy.
Quick question.. can just walk in to the counter and straightaway say tht i want get b full license, fill in some form, pay the fee, and wait for the class schedule, etc? or need to use like middleman/agent/whatever, else they won't entertainment? Got some driving instructors around Bukit Jalil but Google review isn't that good, so prefer to urus myself.. can aa?
You can walk in to the driving school office to register/sign up yourself for the package you want. They will then give you the price and you can pay and register or go elsewhere to survey. If the school driving instructor has bad review then you can try avoiding going to that school to sign up, no middle man required to sign yourself up at any school.. But be aware some might not want to take you on for B full if you have zero prior experience riding motorcycle or using clutch.. They will ask you to go learn yourself first then come back.. They just want fast turnover not really care to teach properly. F-ed up system but this is Malaysia it's not unusual.
It needs to be a bit more faster than the speed in the video, the learner did not want to go faster since the road was wet and still just training. The trick is to use both brakes if you press hard on the rear it's easy to make that sliding sound like as though you were going fast and braking hard. Haha..
@@thesighbored Oh I see. I actually already passed the b full test long ago. Im asking because I was wondering why were you/he did that section by doing it slowly. Im sorry for the inconvenience
If not mistaken, it's only one foot at a time. And yes it's left foot down first and you switch if you need to. Why? Because right foot should be on/covering the rear brake. Then if you need to shift gears or go into neutral (while stopped), then you switch and put your right foot down instead. Even for emergency stop section you are supposed to put your left down after stopping and not both feet down.
@@thesighbored uji driving liense di indo bro, very compilcated test, 8 turn sangat kecil menggunakan cone, membuat kita harus "pay to win" hahahahahahah
@@thesighbored Di sana kelihat prosedur cek lampu, tengok rearview, dan lain-lainnya. Di sini kami tes kendara langsung stuntman lah, tak cek atau tengok apapun 😂. Banyaklah pula stunt di jalanan.
Everyone has their different method to handle the bridge so you'll need to find one that suits you. Generally the tips are: 1. Clutch control: Use the clutch to control the rolling speed once on the bridge instead of the throttle; 2. Rear brake: Use the rear brake to slow down (if needed) to meet the minimum required time on the bridge, don't use the front brake as it will jerk the front end; 3. Look ahead: Look straight forward instead of looking down at the bridge once you are on it, because if you look down normally you will look at the edges and the bike will tend to go where you are look at; 4. Balance with legs/foot rest: If you need to balance the bike, some prefer to grip the tank with their thighs, some like to keep their legs loose and press on the foot pegs to balance; 5. Handle bar: Try not to grip the bars too tightly, and observe it's center point prior to entering the bridge, some of the learner bikes have taken a few falls before and the handle may not be centered correctly; I think that's about all I can share. Hope it helps!
The only useful hand signals are the slow down and stop ones, and that also is when we are having group riding to indicate amongst ourselves not to drivers. All just wayang for the purpose of the exam only. No real world practical value.
judging from where the rider places his hand at 7:17, im sure that he has what i call an "integrated taillight syndrome", hence the minor confusion...ahahaha
wondering is there any tips for someone like me who wants to take this B license but have not ride on any motorcycle before i only know how to ride a bicycle XD / also is it always a must to honk after a red light ? sorry if too much questions asked
Don't worry the driving school that you sign up with will teach you all you need to know to pass the exam, it may not be enough for real road riding but for sake of passing the exam will be enough. If you have zero experience they will start you on kapcai to practice handling the small motorcycle without clutch then move you onto the big bike once you are familiar with the small one..
@TheSighBored I am foreigner taking Full B. Riding between cones, my driving school keeps each cone between 3 ft. But your video cone distance is longer, what is the ideal distance between cones in final exam. Please advise. Also making eight loop, it is 1.5 turns? , your video mentioned 2 full turns but I believe you did 1.5 Thanks for this video, in my driving school all speak malay only, when explaining bike parts lesson, I didn't understand much.
Hello, I don't know the exact distance of the cones but it is the same as in the practice because it will be the same placd where the exam is held so the distance is already set. I'm not certain how you count the loop maybe different than how I count it, but again it will be exactly as shown in the video, you enter and figure eight at the enter point, do full figures and only exit when you reach the exit point on the second time you come to it.
Some people prefer 1st, some prefer 2nd. The important thing is clutch control. Since you need to slow down on the titi for at least 7 seconds, controlling the clutch and balancing the motorcycle is more important. Most of the motorcycles are set to have a higher idle so you don't really need to throttle it for it to move, just control the clutch.
Hi I tend to have problems on the turns section of this. I just been advised that don't try to clutch / brake on the first entering as it would slow me down too much and I wouldn't be able to complete it. That it's better to just glide in all the way the moment I turn right into the turn's section till the end without any clutch engagement at the start and only nearing the end of the turns section. Can share some advice?
Which turns do you mean, the figure 8 turns? I think the driving school bikes are tuned with higher idle so you don't have to give much throttle input and the bike will roll along at a slow pace so you can just focus to balance and turn, no need for braking or giving too much throttle.
@@han839 Do you mean 4:20 section? At the speed/pace you are going for this section, you don't need brake, just feathering/controlling the clutch with little throttle input is enough. If you really need to brake, use the rear brake as the front brake will be jilt the front the bike and make you feel or lose stability. As mentioned before, the throttle idle on these trainer bikes are usually set a bit high, so you don't really need a lot of throttle input, managing the clutch to slow down a bit and releasing it slowly to get the bike moving is mostly what you need to do. Sometimes the idle is high enough that it will maintain a slow pace and you don't have to work the clutch either and just focus on the turns.
It's a little bit faster, for practice & road wet so the learner didn't go as fast. Only timed on the bridge other than that not timed but the course shouldn't take long even if you ride slow.
Yeah and that’s only for Class 2B. The equivalent context of B-full license in Malaysia is akin to Singapore’s Class 2A and 2, where the minimum speed to attain for e-braking is 40-45km/h. I also noticed that almost all courses in this video can be completed with half-clutch in gear 1, without minimum or maximum timing.. Not sure if Malaysian standard is way too easy or Singapore standard is way too difficult!
@@thesighbored which begs the question, are candidates being tested on their public road competencies as well? I am quite curious because in Singapore, there are 2 components to assess riders’ proficiency (for class 2B); 1) in maneuvering the courses in circuit, and 2) in navigating the public road.
No, they are not tested on actual roads, only for car license they will do that. Personally I think it's good they don't do actual road riding test because all that idiotic arm flapping, raising hand on stop, etc BS is more dangerous on actual roads. Like I said before.. Real life survival is good enough. If you ride a motorbike like a moron, you get killed. Unlike driving a car, if you drive like a moron, you kill others. 😁
I hate the fact that they limits on the kind of bikes used for this. I want to take one, but I'm only used to sumo... Those big bikes are wayy too heavy for me.
There are smaller sized and height riders that can do it, all you need is practice & technique to handle the bike. Once it is moving the bike weight is not a huge issue. You can drop the bike while you learn to handle the bike/weight, that's OK since it has the crash cages.
No, you should not use your own. The reason you pay the driving school fee is because they suppose to provide everything to learn. I suggest you go find a different school that has the proper facility and equipment.
250cc can use B2 license, but if you planning to take license better just go with B full never know in future maybe you get a bigger bike then no need to headache about taking exam again and pay again..
Contact your nearest driving school to get more info.. You can go straight to B full.. But I thought they changed the minimum age to 17 or 18? I can't remember.. But you can check with the driving school..
Yes.. Each section is separately marked, so if you fail a section you can just retake that section for the next time. You cannot redo it on the same day.
It's bundled with all your other licenses like car, so you can renew all at once.. Maximum is 5 years per renew or you can renew yearly, so it's between 1-5 years depend on you.
Except for the emergency brake section, you'll probably be running 1st or 2nd gear only.. Controlling the clutch and throttle is your main focus.. So that the engine doesn't cut out.
@@danialhazim3174 Since you are going really slow, I would say controlling the clutch and throttle would be easier as you feel the bike when you hold the clutch at it's release point and feather it, but if you feel the need to brake, gently using the rear is helpful as it doesn't make the front forks dive down unlike the front brakes if you accidently squeeze too much.
@@thesighbored I see. Then again B Full uses ER6N/Z650/Virago which are balance, more stable at slow speed because of wide tyre compare to small kapcai tyre.
@@danialhazim3174 On the big bike, at slow speeds, you need to manage the weight of the bike, the engine is more powerful than kapcai so managing the throttle and clutch to go slow is something that needs practice.
Also sorry for the questions but, Is it a must to take both of the motorcycle license? Cause my dad said you have to take the smaller ones first then you can proceed to the bigger bikes. Sorry for all the questions hehehe
Not necessary, can get B full directly and with that you can ride both big and small. However if you have no prior experience they will train you on the small bike before letting you on the big one.
walaweiii macam berat jee kalau layan low speed.. sememangnya perlu ikut peraturan betul-betul dan jangan terlupa step. berapa harga sekarang untuk ambil lesen B full?.
Ya after 10+ years riding without license.. 😂 You seen me going thru roadblocks giving license no issue kan.. Hahaha.. 😂 It's not me on board the training bike..
