I am liking how DF is resolving the past in a productive and inspiring way. The future can always be better than the past and present if we are willing to learn from it and move forward.
Agreed. After years and years since wrath of the lich king, where malygos went mad and sindragosa was enslaved as an undead servant, it’s nice to see them having somewhat of a happy ending.
Ugh, yeah, that was what was going through my mind as well. Perhaps as beings of Order they would go to a different afterlife together? This is why its often better to remain vague with the ideas surrounding post-death.
@@AlexanderForsman what about Ysera? She didn't have a deal with the Winter Queen and ended up in Shadowlands. I really dont like that half cobbled idea that blizzard had regarding afterlives. Stupid shadowlands xD
@@KatmeisterCNV The difference with Ysera is that she was the leader of the green dragon aspect, the warden of dreams. which makes her soul linked with the emerald dream like wild gods, so ending up the realm of rebirth etc kinda makes a sense. Also The emerald dream was created by Freya which is one of the nine Titan-Forge Keepers. So anything that the titans created had some order too it, For Malygos and Sindragosa may end upsomething close related to the Arcane.
I remember a ring dropping from Sindragosa called "Memory of Malygos" in ICC. Seeing them finally reunited after the hardships they've both endured is heartwearming.
"You did not leave a burden." He says to the dragon who, in the end, is only less reviled than Deathwing because he was killed *before* he could try to blow up the world.
@@zacharyseiders5793 lets not forget that Malygos while going nuts had a point about what was going on but went the wrong way about it, mortals did do some dumb stuff with the magic, his domain, and being someone already mentally unstable that was bound to happen.
Hmm.. You have a point, but malygos did also have a point. I think that is what they are going off, the notion of "remember who he was, not what he became", which to be fair is the right thing for malygos. He didnt wake up and think mortals with magic is bad, he lost his mind after his flight almost died, and in that grief turned on magic users because he saw them as part of the problem, which a few were.
Sindragosa never got to dragonblight when she was dying and Malygos couldn't hear her screaming out for him, this is the last time they truly see each other.
@@girl1213 even without Arthas, Sindragosa will not rest in peace. Because Arthas only revived her long after she was death and not even reach the Dragonblight.
I'm glad we got to see the real Malygos and Sindragosa. They were spoken of so fondly over the years. It's good they finally got the rest they deserved, not as the monsters they were, but as the dragons they are.
They weren't monsters though lol. Lore wise this game pretty much got wrecked in TBC and dragonflight was just that doctor who gives you a prostate exam with both his hands on your shoulders
I like how this helps to contrast Malygos and Neltharion. At this point everyone agrees that Neltharian’s legacy is something that no one should want to claim, a legacy of pain, torture, betrayal, and death. Ebisian wisely wanted nothing to do with it. Malygos is very different. Sure, on the surface it seems similar as Malygos also went insane and ended up being killed by the players wanting some mounts, but that isn’t what they really think of as his legacy, it was his intellect, his joyous personality, the legacy he left behind even if his final moments were not his greatest. He feared that those moments would define his legacy, but it did not.
It was just part and parcel of early WoW that they wanted to take major characters and make them raid bosses without exploring their character or motivations at all. Illidan, Kael'thas, Malygos all done dirty. The blue dragon in the Eye should have just been some total random one because it didn't even have any character to it at all. And Illidan and KT's portrayal lacked any sense of continuity to who they were as characters in Warcraft 3.
It was great hearing Malygos again. I was kind of upset after reading the books and liking him there, that he was a one off beginning of expansion boss.
@@Limon517yea they ruined the lore so bad. Malygos is literally the one who killed galakrond lol. First one to get power from the Titans. Hands down the strongest aspect.
Because it was never a burden.. Malygos went insane after the obliteration of his flight by the person he called his brother.. This was never a burden for Kalecgos. What was a burden for Kalecgos which he later found in the book the Shattering was a way forward a future for their flight. He had an entire discussion with Thrall about that
Round of applause Blizzard, its a shame so many people felt burned by Shadowlands, but Dragonflight has just been fantastic so far, one of the top 3 expansions in my opinion, and probably the best when it came to world building.
You have to be kidding. DF is awful. I played through SL again and actually enjoyed myself, but dreaded going back to the boring as hell Dragon Isles. Ooooh, you get to customize a dragon, ooooooh. And what else? It's a tedious expansion with no goals, nothing to work for.
DF Storytelling is amazing. You really can tell difference of the way they tell story then all previous expansions, I'm all in for the new 3 expansion cycle blizz was mentioning about their new way of storytelling.
You do get, that it is ONE story and all this was planed and likely written in rought parts at least years ago? That's obvious, because when you make up stuff as you please, you end up with a crap show like FF14 for example, where things don't fit together at all - and hell, the writers even say, they make up close to no lore, so they can change things as they want it - and even then it's stupid crap they need time travel for to solve it, what they still don't manage. WoW lore is massive and to hold a story going for decades togetehr like this is something you don't see very often. Most writers these days barely manage to write a 90 minute movie without tons of plot holes.
Recently have been rereading all the Warcraft books, such a cool thing they did here. Malygos in the books was so joyful. He was a jolly dragon. I only wish they conveyed that a bit more here. Still, very cool reunion
@@masongroves4226 This version of Malygos, as I understand it, is the last vestiges of his soul after dying in WotLK. It makes sense that he would not be so jolly as he has been haunted by the torment of Neltharion's betrayal and the madness surrounding him before his demise. I would imagine that this Malygos would feel as if he just awoke from a nightmare and is given a bit of clarity before moving on from the mortal world with his lover.
The Sindragosa you meet in Wrath is the result of her soul freezing over after the original Dragon Wars. The prime consort of Malygos, she accompanied him to the creation of the Dragon Soul and witnessed Neltharian's betrayal, and the beginning of Deathwing. She was among the first to attack Deathwing as he held the fully powered Dragon Soul, and he blasted her clear to Northrend. She did her best to make her way to Wyrmrest Temple, but weak and wounded, collapsed in the snow. The savage colds of Northrend tore at her sanity, till all that was left was a hateful husk easily controlled by the Lich King. This same act was the final straw of Malygos's sanity as well, who couldn't bring himself to active war with his best friend, Neltharian, and it ate away at him. It, and the burden of knowing he should have acted, but didn't. It's much of why he feels so miserable with Kalegos having taken over for him, Kalegos did what Malygos should have done countless years ago. But with both resolved, the two could be together, and we give them rest, having done in the world what they could not, they can go to peace, together, in eternity.
The entire blue dragon flight story is truly some of the best story Blizzard has made in a while. This is how bringing old characters back should always be, not essential to the main story.
They really made these two out to be traitors and bad guys when that's like not what they were at all. Malygos was literally just waiting for his woman to show up and she never did when he woke up he saw humans using magic like crazy which has never turned out good in wow ever. Aspect of magic, slayer of galakrond, first one to get titan power yeah he was probably right. His woman just died and was resurrected as the lich king she was only mad malygos never showed up. She was the only one who knew what neltharian was doing and never stopped him when she could of. I'm glad they at least sent them off in a good way but they really did them both pretty dirty in this game lore wise
I think it would be cool if they had Kalecgos start wearing the cloak/shoulderpads that Malygos had on. To show he was accepted as the successor and also the model armor looks awesome.
It was nice to see Malygos get a proper send off. Seeing both Malygos and Kalecgos give each other closure. So they can both move on. Malygos can finally move forward in death, and Kalecgos can move forward in life.
it was corruption of shadowflame and n'zoth caused neltharion fall to madness after he fall from grace to defeat raszageth with old gods' power after she broke his gauntlet oathbinder.
I will SO RIOT if we don't get Malygos' armor in game... Man, Blood Elves need some more TH I C C armor like his. Lorewise and in cinematics/animations, male blood elves look so manly and beefy, but in game they look like soy boys.
malthael was once the archangel angel and angel aspect of wisdom and leader and member of the angiris council after worldstone's destruction malthael disappeared and went missing but malthael returned and became the archangel angel and angel aspect of death to destroy humans and sanctuary with black soulstone after prime evil's defeat in heaven.
@@GarroshTV To be fair, Keri also ordered the murder of Malgygos' wife shortly before being caught. There is a lot, why that "reunion" would be awkward.
So are cutscenes just there for emotional music to play while characters talk about how much they wuv each other? It seems like we have the same formula for every cutscene just play ad nauseum. And I don't mind there be some emotional stakes to the story. But there is NOTHING in this expansions story other than two people talking. One of them about to cry. And the other coming in and reassuring them that they are a good person. Bonus points if they put their hand on their shoulder.
She left simulacrums, I believe the more corporeal one is the main simulacrum that also holds most of her memory. The one next to Malygos is either a vision or offshoot.
I have not played this scene yet, but the Sindragosa that leaves the last is "magical copy" that Sindragosa when he was alive left in the dragon isles before dragons left to fight in the ancient war..., I can assume that the other Sindragosa and Malygos are the souls of the original dragons..., that now can leave the mortal realm in peace, but that is my theory.
Ghost Sindragosa that leaves with Malygos is the real dead Sindragosa post-WOTLK. Sindragosa talking with Kalecgos is a simulacrum from 10000 years ago.
Sindragosa left a "memory" before she left the dragon isles. The one who leaves is her post death soul , while the one that stays is the 10k old version.(please, don't think too hard about this)
Considering the rules have changed. Maybe they’ll be allowed to go to the same place. There are way more after lives than what they showed. Maybe there’s one for magic users or dragons
Hang on a second… If Sindragosa and Malygos lived 10000 years ago, and high elves weren’t a thing until 7000 years ago… then HOW are their visage forms high elves? (Yes I know Malygos died more recently then Sindragosa did, but still. How?!)
They can change visages at will. It states it when you do the Evoker quest lines. It's why eventually, Blizz might update the models so they can have visages more appropriate to other races than the Blood Elf-esque ones they have now.
Wow, it seems they can only make the easiest safe way for characters in this story. Only thing that is missing is how they all hug each other in the end and applaused to our main hero.
How so?, unless you mean the black dragons in which case I agree. Kalecgos has been fighting to unify the blues since cataclysm, and had some high ranking support in the endeavour.
@@Najjarboyz3 I mean, at this point we were treating Kalec as a Blue Aspect anyway, so nothing new there. I am talking more about how they portrayed Malygos here. They couldn't just keep him as he was - crazed out and paranoid.... that was the tragedy of his character. They are handing out happy endings to these characters as if they were leaflets. And yeah, the storyline Black dragonflight has goes well with my opinion.
