This is how I know Todd loves Kandi & isn’t after her money because no amount of millions would make me wanna deal with mama Joyce. She will be the reason their marriage fails mark my words
Mean what else does mama Joyce want from the man he even signed a pre - nup with very little hesitancy saying that he wouldn't get any of Kandi's money if they divorced he gave momma Joyce 2 more grandchildren he is always pushing Kandi to reach for the stars he loves her unconditionally constantly has her back he loves kandi though all of mama Joyce's bullshit and never checks Kandi on it no matter how much it might hurt him or Kaela what more does she want?
My first thought was exactly this... My second thought was Todd's daughter, who is Ms Sharon's twin, and how she deals with the constant unnecessary public disrespect coming from her siblings grandmother towards her father...
Mama Joyce seems to forget that she has grandchildren who will see this stuff one day. Even if she doesn’t like Todd, she could err on the side of just being complimentary to make her daughter happy.
@@sweetiepie756 Didn't have shit? He had an entire career before he married Kandi making a salary that puts most of the viewing public in the bottom 80% of wage earners in America. He obviously wasn't wealthy enough to be a one percenter, but this an employed black man who owned his own property who got his career start with Oprah. So now upper middle class socio economic equates to not having shit, lol? I swear sometimes I'm curious to see the portfolios of the people who say this kind of stuff, it cracks me up!
@Ella sabe people on the internet are crazy😂 Kandi tried to explain for years that he already had his money, but lies are more entertaining than the truth. Kandi seems too frugal to marry a broke man.
@@ellasabe6377 you obvious just started watching the show. On the reunion they showed her assets & his😂 he upgraded that ragged condo with her money all of the OLG’s & Blaze came from Kandi he had an idea. Riley went straight to NYC & his daughter who is much older went so she could stay in that luxurious apartment even tho Kayla from NY & Todd said Kayla was chasing her dreams 7 years older than Riley. Kandi bought her mom several houses & Todd was upset. Her mom knows what she’s talking about.;
@@foulany7774 Nope. You don’t have to be a criminal to identify one in the middle of a crime right? Don’t have to be miserable to know someone is miserable when they’re displaying it.🤷🏽♀️
Yep she doesn’t even want them to have anything if Kandi suddenly passes. I bet she will try to fight in court to get a bigger chunk of the estate right out of Blaze and Aces half. Shameful that her disdain for Todd reflects on the children. Kandi needs to put this woman out of her life. She’s grown enough to take care of herself.
Exactly! People try to call other people out because they don't want to be found out. On one of the reunions Kandi even put her mother on blast saying she was putting credit cards in her name. Her mother is a toxic mess and she feels Kandi owes her. She is a true narcissist. Until Kandi puts her foot down and calls her mother out its never gonna change matter a fact Mama Joyce will be Mama Joyce.
@@luisafrance1635 But it does not give Kandi's mother the right to feel she's ENTITLED to do whatever she wants with her daughters money????? Mother or no mother if I'm making the money IT'S MY MONEY. Family can be something else and her mother is a true narcissist. Again until Kandi checks her mother and not let her be a loose canon/disrespecting her husband every chance she gets it will continue.
It’s sad bc Kandi is acting like a teenaged girl who’s begging for her parents to accept her prom date… like girl this is your HUSBAND! And your childrens FATHER!!!!🙄
Kandi is a little girl scared to stand up to her mother. I don't see how they are still together after what her mother did to Todd's late mother(May her soul rest in peace). She didn't even take his side🤦🏽. Remember Todd, That Prenup was just for a couple of years. If Kandi can't put her mother in her place; It's time to move on.
Mama Joyce needs to be stopped. The constant disrespect of this man is horrible. Kandi act like she scared to tell her mama stop dissing her husband. U can still respect your mama and tell her lay off your husband because I can GURANTEE if it were Todd's mother, RIP who was treating her like this she would be LIVID. ESPECIALLY at him for allowing it, so why she allows her mama to continue in her stank ways says a lot about how she truly feels
@@xavierandrews5774 I think she thinks she's being the funny shade queen too. An identity she holds onto but shouldn't. It aint junior high. You're pushing 80 my love. Ridiculous behavior. There's all kinds of things to be mad and talk shit about. Her petty complaints are often irrational and unnecessary.
It is ironic that Joe is claiming innocence in the destruction of the relationship between him and his sister yet he publicly bashes her every chance he gets.
She bashes him and all her family every time she gets and since they started on the show even though she keeps saying “family is the most important thing”. That’s irony, but Tree wouldn’t understand that
@@imalwaysright Hunny, Melissa and Joe came on the show to bash her lol. Let's not act as though they liked her at all. Teresa isn't innocent but neither are they.
@@Br1tt_B Teresa is a nightmare and they're fed up. Place fame and the show and the drama has gone to all of their heads. I don't understand though how you feel she hasn't been the massive problem. I don't watch anymore but she's a f'ng sister in law from hell.
@@cassondralynch6342 They are all complicit in the destruction of their relationship. I’m not saying Teresa id innocent but Joe and Melissa aren’t saints🤷🏾♀️. And now, Melissa and Joe’s true colors are being shown lately.
They do go in on Kandi about mama Joyce, it's just not as bad cause Kandi is still likeable. Also Joyce is a mess when it comes to Todd, Ms Wanda is at another extreme of ignorant - i mean she's at the physically attacked someone stage. Not the same thing at all.
@@Kodak718 I don't like Wanda or Joyce personally but people lay into Tisha very much unfairly. They feel sorry for Kandi, they don't blame her for not being able to control her mum. Tisha on the other hand is expected to control Wanda who doesn't appear to be controllable at all. Just because people don't like Tisha. It's not fair
@@Kodak718 didn’t Joyce try to attack Carmen? Didn’t she say some foul ish to and about Phaedra. Didn’t she talk shit about Todd’s mom…that evil hag is far worse than Wanda
Mama Joyce is going to be to reason Kandi and Todd split!!! I've seen this situation play out too many times! You gotta keep your family out of your relationship!!
joyce has made it clear for 12 season that she is ONLY concerned with her daughters money. Kandi is so blinded by her love for her mom that she doesn't realize she's always been a meal ticket
At this point if Todd started disliking that woman I would truly understand. Smh she way to old to be acting like that especially embarrassing him constantly on tv
I feel like todd may be hurt by the stuff she says but he’s definitely gonna have the last laugh if they ever get divorced even if he signed the prenup saying he couldn’t have no money from what she had before marriage they didn’t say he couldn’t get paid off of what he acquired and accumulated during marriage so why Kandi over there being her own man and man Joyce disrespecting him he just steady opening up businesses to stake his claims he definitely knows what he’s doing bcuz he knows that old hound dog of a mama gonna do everything she can to keep him or his kids from getting anything off of kandi
Todd was really trying to make peace with miss Joyce. But Her big nose is so high up in the clouds off Kandis money she felt like Todd should’ve put her name on the restaurant she’s so damn mean she didn’t even appreciate it. Todd is a good husband, father, and better than any son-in-law I know. Miss Joyce thinks the way she treats Todd makes her look cute. Think the opposite miss Joyce.
Joyce just plays her daughter like a violin. She need to put that woman in a home. Nursing home. Give a tiny stipend a week, that's it. Kandi being rich was the worse thing that happened to Joyce. She's one of those family members that would show up on the door step when you win the lottery.
Omg Kandi... if your mom can say such things for the masses... I wonder what she really thinks behind closed doors. Kandi you can do better in this department. Your mom is out of line!
At this point i think mama Joyce just dogs Todd for tv. Kandi and her mom are like a modern day New York and sister Patterson. They both understand the assignment
She said “ I thought it was nice “ 😭🤣🤣 man once old folk get old and have a certain vision of u especially if they the stubborn type they won’t let it go or unsee u for whatever they think u did or didn’t do
Kandi pissing me off because she allows her miserable momma to disrespect her husband. And if I were Todd I would just leave Kandi but still take care of your kids
If her issue with Todd in the beginning was that his bag isn’t like Kandi, what makes her think that a man with her kind of bag would put up with her attitude like Todd does. Make it make sense.
Danm didn’t think the Gorgas could get any lower and mama Joyce is Insufferable. Kandi will never check her smh 🤦🏾♂️ the kids gonna grow up and see all Thai mess I hope they tougher on their mum and grandmas than Riley is.
From being a fan and watching the show over the years from observing, I See Teresa has genuinely tried but her brother to me seems very difficult to deal with as much as she loves him and it be looking and seeming like he chooses sides and you (he) shouldn't do that. However, I do agree with the statement it's sad to see them in this place. But hopefully it'll do nothing but go up. 🤷🏾♂️
Momma Joyce is so disrespectful. I watched that wedding again, and it was awful the way Momma Joyce behaved. It was downright embarrassing One of Todd's friends told him to bounce, he married Kandi for love Prenup don't mean nothing, he is spending their money, they are married. Kandi could have married a man of her caliber , (as Momma Joyce is always bringing up), and got taken advantage of. I would have had a talk with my mom way before now, but Kandi is always commenting on other people men but will not put her momma in line. Like another commentor said her grandkids will see these interviews in the futue.
Mama Joyce is so disrespectful! Not after 10 years old women! Just leave the man alone! How is being short a nice thing about a person ? Kandi need to manage her mom better! I APPLAUD TODD FOR KEEPING UP WITH THIS! This is to old and nasty now
It’s ultimately kandi’s decision for the divorce that will happen between her snd Todd letting her mom insult her husband . A man will only take so much .
Ngl as maddening as it is, Mama Joyce's beef with Todd is a storyline we all love. Because one day they will either find common ground love or she will die and he will be free to dance above ground
The problem with Todd and MAMA Joyce's relationship is MAMA Joyce. "We" are getting along much better. What did he do to you??? Kandi looks like a damn idiot for letting her Mom do that to her husband. You know how bad you look by keeping that going on. Check YOUR MOM!!!
mama can’t stand to see her daughter be happy because she suffered in her own past relationship , classic case of narcissistic parent jealous of their own child
He's shady af lol. In all fairness though he's shady to all genders. Anything for entertainment. He has a heart though and is truly personal friends with a lot of these people.