Mammy, Jezebel and Sapphire: Stereotyping Black women in media | The Listening Post (Feature) 

Because Hollywood is stupid lol. They do not even produce original films anymore. You're better off seeing complexed Black characters in Canadian African and European films.

I guess a quiet black woman is not entertaining enough to them. I would love to see it as well, because most of these characters I’ve seen I cannot identify with, personality wise.

I really like this idea, I try to make my poc girls and womans always human but that are also far from all these stereotypes. Hollywood thinks a poc woman con only be the best friend of the white lead, a jezebel or a sapphire... It's really annoying.

How about a full raced black girl next door, that's stable, smart, and living her best life.🤯🤯🤯

Thats aunt Jemima 🌚

That is fine but then I will need certain black people to stop talking down to white people and pretending like they know what its like to be white or generalizing white people as a whole.

@@H0VA what a useless comment ...

@@jahkush5383 Your comment about "what a useless comment" couldn't be anymore useless.

@@H0VA you mean difficult oppressing and minimising other peoples experience. Literally look at you, the comment was about people like you telling black people that there experiences aren't as bad as yours. You literally jumped in with you BUT. Yall are narcissists

Thank you!

It's simply racism and anti-blackness. A big part of racism and racial stereotypes is taking a human trait that can be seen in people of all races and using it to demonize and generalize people of a certain race.

I think it is because a lot of actresses portray angry black women on t.v. and in movies. When the public is constantly shown just one type of personality they are eventually going to see most black women as this way and not have much tolerance for their behavior whether justified or not. Secondly, white people that I have observed are very turned off by other people that are loud, in your face, and come across as verbally offensive.

It's called "Social Conditioning".

@@jettyl23 Facts

@@dottiefarmer5547 One word: Propaganda.

At all

Meaning they didn’t delete freedom of speech ? Grfo

@@user-yv2jn7bw1d the comments did changed a bit

Love this!!

When Black people point out what Black people gotta change it's always "what about them over there?" We all know the Jezebel plagues every community of people but the Sapphire and Mammy trope has dug its nails and controlled the brains of the Black American community. Low-key I believe it's time to abandon the ones who don't get it. P.S. the small hat tribe had a hand in most of the caricatures that plague Black people.

That's from THE NEGRO PROJECT.

Yes there was

Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard

@@kaylao.3326 how

@Go DJ alright yeah I wouldnt think that and I understand why someone would think I'm being stupid, but definitely has a racial bias to it even if it is sweet, I didnt appreciate them not considering me as my own person honestly

@Go DJ okay I know that

The lack of empathy in these comments just proves how powerful, harmful and pervasive this conditioning is.🙏💗

Maria Smith where ??

Where??

Are we really surprised?

@@youngindian4083 lol they mean just hire a black person or mixed person for the role and give them the opportunity to act ^__^

@@youngindian4083 it’s blackface and highly offence to be acting as stereotypical version as a black person and painting yourself to depict us. Just hire actual black people

It's true I felt that way but didn't want to seem like a hater. I love her but I also know why they love her too. And the accent is like the cherry on top.

Yes

Precisely. I can’t get into her bc if that. It could also just be her personality but it irks me.

This trope has also evolved into something less negative . Why can’t she just be an uplifting black woman? Everything we do can be a basis for racism

Of course she is

@CrazyNendo it is a acronym idiot.

Absolute truth

Usually they only allow natural hair on a women if she’s a lightskin bw.

Acting agencies never want them. Always the mixed with lose curls. They dont bother to accommodate our needs, same as black models with natural hair

A black actress that wore her hair natural was either not going to get a role or end up in a stereotypical one

Lupita in black panther

@@lc2014just one actress? Wow

SIRI X RESOUND TV,I bet you don't consider yourself to be racist,huh? Lol

@@Galaxygoddessg So calling out racism makes you a racist?

@@Galaxygoddessg and she’s not

So Maury jerry springer love and hip hop and bad girls club don’t play a role in destroying black women image just blame black men okay

@@Assassin-td2st i think she meant that black men promote the stereotypes that people have put on black men

Pssst... First ask al Jazeera to show how blacks are shown in Arab media even today🙄🙄

@@LilithsCosmicLounge Indeed!

​@@TheRedstateBluestateTell me who started the violence again?

no we don’t. white women and asian women that are “sassy” never have that stereotype attached to their RACE. and moretime we’re not even aggressive, we are provoked and then demonised for our very normal reaction towards the aggressor. like stop tryna put the blame on us bc even if we were perfect they’d still exist

Extally

I think it's because many roles are biographical, like in the help and even in everybody hates Chris, the story is not about them, so they don't have a lot of depth, but also that's how they where in the biographic eyes of the lyrical self. I think the real problem is when that is the only type off representation you get, like all women were like this.

The music industry is controlled by the "you know who". Try to make positive music and they won't give you a contract.

The music comes from the hood but the hood doesn't determine what music gets played.

Not as much

​@@jzk2020 You mean "two words you should never say together.... as in 'the' and 'Jews.' Never heard someone do good after they said that." Dave Chappelle

And I can say the same thing about white women and karens 🤣

@@mimithebest3991 Ohh you dropped a truth gem right there!

Yes :/

@@cutesyleah937Don't know of Whatever Happened to Baby Jane. Check it out.

White women are presented as human for the most part while Black women aren't. And in the cases where they aren't it is mostly at the hands of misogynistic white males. It is not the same as what is being presented in the video

@@googleuser7454 For the most part? What do you mean by misogynistic please? Do you also mean what is presented in the video, does not have a broad aspect to it?

In comparison to black women? Basically.

Do you think the actress for mammy from gone with the wind had enough of a voice to turn the role down.

If you're trying to make it as an actor, it's slim pickings. Folks are trying to make a living.

Indigenous

They completely leave that detail out

Get lost

But if we say Black men are violent isn’t a stereotype because every time we turn on the tv theyre in the news we’d be called racist.

… you really think all black woman act like this?

@@mina-yw6tz Fr, I’m black and don’t act like this, I was called white like-

What did she say?

black males are to blame

@@NoDustZone how?

Hardly. Sucks not to be able to grow glowing hair, huh? Take it up with nature.

Yeah good luck with that lol

@@allopez33 i hate white people

Yeah people only want to say that when it comes to pigeonholing black people

They bad out here

Black africans

@@hEXordo the ignorance

@@Devilsrock5 the knowledge

@@hEXordo I’m getting racist vibes from u 👁👄👁

Of course it can. It just doesn’t have the same connotations.

Other women can play parts without being placed into these stereotypes. While most black actors are only placed into these stereotypes. All these came during slavery for dehumanizing bw.

black live matter no all live matter type of logic u hv here

@@inaneghost2733 yes, the problem is not having this representations, but is when these are all you have. No depth, no reason to be like that. You just burst out of no where in the film like that.

Well said!!

Or we could hold screenwriters, directors, and casting directors accountable for restricting black people to stereotypical roles.

I love victim blaming 😩

Gaslighting.

Stereotypes are literally are used to just single out groups of ppl and cause society to hyper fixate on them only. “Black women are sassy” so are so many white people. Black people are “sexual” so are so many white people. So where are their stereotypes. We all know the stereotypes about black people were created out of spite to literally “spite” black ppl🤦🏾‍♀️

this comment made me physically cringe

She’s a different trope, more on the soft feminine side…

Can you please explain this?

There are plenty of current scenarios. Look em up. You'll find it.

@@MahouShoujo-Studios that was kinda my point.

History and the past have an impact on how people will perceive/see you... I mean their stereotypes still have a big impact on how people tend to imagine black people so i understand why they showed it

Yes! That's exactly what white people do! Glad you're catching on.

Did this video hurt you in naughty place?

And is that supposed to be a good thing?

Nigerian men are black

@@missbstuurman honestly

She’s not Nigerian you idiot.

She's not nigerian.

whose country

in whose country.

In whose country???

@@luaiballan8749 Qatar, where al jazeera is based. I heard they literally enslaved black people for physical labor and were withholding passports.

This isn't legal at all... but guess what... It was a few years ago in Mauritania ! (A black country based im Africa...) Don't try to make them look bad... Human are just stupids and hearless sometimes even among black people it has nothing to do with their races

Pure racist you are.

This is very ignorant

Black ppl didn't make this video

What are Ados? What do you mean barbadians are winning?

No black women don't want this image only you so calked ados women a small but vocal minority of black women do. If you looked around you'd see the push back from black women namely pink pill, Paris Milan, Shera Seven just to name a few black women do not want this image so don't associate us with it.

@@amaniblack2813 Same, I’m nothing like the stereotypes and people say I act white-

"lazy" interesting choice of word

I just looked at your channel and I see you need to be blocked

They're mad because white people have reduced their identity to stereotypes? I don't think they ever stopped being mad, they just had to act like they weren't. Please try to understand, there's a whole video about why they're mad. Did you just not listen and clicked onto the video so you could make a comment? Could you give me any evidence (articles, ect) as to why black women shouldn't be angry about how they're treated? Can you tell me that they have it better than others (give me examples) and therefore they shouldn't be upset? I'm not telling you to shut up, I'm telling you to speak up. I'd love to have the opportunity to talk to you about your views. In fact, I'm taking a college course in Arguing and Convincing, and would be grateful if you would engage in debate with me. No name calling, fallacies, bias, or emotional influence on facts, just a rational conversation between two people with a differing opinion on a certain subject. The ball is in your court good sir! Let us commence! :D

Art form?? 🤣 painting your face and degrading black people is an art form??? OK, I dont know a black person alive that finds minstrel shows funny

@@Neesi392 you're right. You won't find any black person alive who thinks it's an art form because those who did were alive over 100 years ago. Bert Williams performed blackface minstrelsy, as did many others. They might have considered it an art form. Would they be wrong?

@@bklyn11217 no he would not have considered it an art form. No not something that was created to mock and humiliate his own people. He found a way to make a living off of something that was meant to degrade him. Acting is an art form, Black face Is not

He and other black performers were actors. They toured, performed on stages and had their work reviewed by critics. Are certain types of music not forms of art because the content is degrading or contains stereotypes? I don't claim to know how Williams felt about his work, but I don't think it's as simple as saying it wasn't an art form.

@@Neesi392: You're entitled to your opinion, but not your facts. The fact is, minstrel shows were wildly popular among *black* audiences. Not only did black men freely and willingly perform in them, but black audiences freely and willingly spent their hard-earned time and money to attend and be delighted in them. Because even when the country really was racist, people still knew how to laugh at stereotypes of themselves, and to distinguish between light-hearted entertainment and (say) the kind of demonization exhibited by "Birth of a Nation." Most American blacks today -- like most Americans generally -- are ignorant of American history, more or less buy into the narrative that all of history before the 1970s or 80s was all-racism-all-the-time, have zero appreciation for the complexity of American race relations and the salutary developments that occured therein over the course of some two centuries -- the way BLM and leftist Democrats tell this history, the Civil Rights Act evidently spontaneously generated out of nowhere, and utterly inexplicably -- and so naturally the nuances of this history are lost. "Minstrel bad!" is just taken for granted. It's yet another weapon in the arsenal of the race-hustlers to guilt naive and gullible "whites" into believing their history and culture and ancestors were all irredeemably evil.

Are you okay my dude? You sound kind of stressed. Everything alright?

@@thallium.81 you'll find out what's wrong real soon and a blink of an eye

@@dudleymilbin5599 I don't know what you're going through, but it sounds like you're under a lot of stress and pressure. I'm not sure if there's anything seriously wrong to the point where you might be contemplating doing anything drastic, but your comment and response to my question is sending up little red flags. If anything is extremely wrong, take a few moments to take a deep breath and relax. Do you want to talk to anyone about it? I'm no therapist but I'll listen and I'm free to talk to :)

@@thallium.81 if you don't understand mind your business and move on this is for those who have ears to hear obviously you don't so why do you care bye hope you never hear from you again sir or ma'am

@@thallium.81 oh you're pathetic okay stop writing me I don't care to talk to you be honest you're morally a horrible person already

Whites absolutely are hurt by stereotypes created by blacks and by leftist whites, e.g., the myth of "white privilege."

@@PaxVobiscum01 😂😂😂

@@PaxVobiscum01 WTF 😂😂😂

If that stereotyping is based in a historical dehumanization of a people , then yes those stereotypes are wrong. These historical anti-Black stereotypes are a part of justifying the denial of human rights to Black people by making us out to be "uncivilized" as a whole group, enabling colonisation and other injustices, Stereotypes of White people are not rooted in oppression nor are they dehumanizing White people on the basis of race, especially given that in Western media, White characters were portrayed in a nuanced way and the stereotypes are not applied to White people as a collective .

Tf

There’s all sorts of everything. We don’t need cultural commissars to try and police it.

I'm sure you feel the same about the spanish maid trope huh

Strange, I could have sworn this video was about Black Women stereotypes!

white women have constant corrective promotion, while these stereotypes leaks into real life today for black women. Black women are trying to change the stereotype get over it

What are your thoughts on the broken English Mexican who sells tacos or clean pools trope ?

@WusPopN Mane? Or we just want to be presented like everyone else.

Cry baby

this is literally talking about the stereotypes against black WOMEN

@Maria Smith Depends. If you want to be depicted as "strong and independent" then you will be depicted this way 90% of the time as they like pushing that agenda but if you dare to try to be feminine or in any way desirable well they'll shut that down with the quickness.

Because black men have helped and still helping to perpetuate them

The reason it becomes an issue because your everyday life can be changed by someone who has only seen hood movies. It can create the perception that all black women are loud and rude. Or that all black women only worship white people and care nothing for themselves. On the flip side having youth only seeing these black people in their everyday media and life can cause(without proper guidance) to idolize those negative behaviors which create more problems down the lane. Also a lot of the movies are not resolved in a way that shows these behavior patterns to be negative. Negativity usually ends up saving the day or being the final scene. It's a lot.

@@tkeyahhines-davis7480 well your point is understandable and well taken. I think you need to relax to a degree and recognize that if you keep life simple and your goals simple that your life really isn't going to change that much by taking the attitude of what do I really need in life? if you need respect then act respectful and hang around respectable people, if you need love be loving and hang around loving people if you need a place to live more than likely you'll be able to get one and a job and if you have these things in your life how is your life going to be changed significantly its my point. It's when you start wanting more and more and more and more is that when you start feel like you're missing out and you mentioned yourself in your comment the need to have proper guidance, if you have proper guidance you don't have to worry as much about the influence of TV because hopefully you're limiting how much TV and negative images your child watches. And surely you know by now if you have any type of experience in life that haters are going to hate and no matter what images of betrayed on TV people are going to continue to pick the influences that appeal to their attitude culture and upbringing more than likely.

@@Iambriangregory i wholeheartedly agree with you. I was more just answering the question. I don't watch much TV in my adult life because I want to enjoy my life with loving people and having great memories. I don't let modern soceity stop me from doing the things I want to do on life. I acknowledge that those things are there and have made changes in my life to be happy regardless of these topics they are discussing. In my adult life I learned to separate tv from reality and that made all the difference

@@tkeyahhines-davis7480 excellent you're on the right track

Brain Gregory, you do realize that implicit bias is not just a thing in the media right? That implicit bias influences how people see other people. That these damaging stereotypes have been engraved into the minds and cultures of billions of people across the world, right? Often, when Black women travel to Europe and Asia, local men approach them asking for their "price," assuming these tourists are prostitutes because movies and music videos have portrayed Black women as hypersexual and promiscuous. When Black women try to get jobs in corporations, they cannot show any form of anger or frustration lest they be told they are too aggressive or mean. So yes, we should care because most of the world may never personally interact with a Black woman but will hold these ideas in their head and pour them onto the Black people they encounter.

In America Black women abort 38% of their babies over half in NYC. 80% are obese, 76% fatherless children, most in debt and only 25% will ever marry. The Black woman must take accountability. If you really want to know about Black History check out THE NEGRO PROJECT from the Democrats.

Portray black women in film with a more diverse/realistic variety of personalities. It’s easy to overlook how much influence Hollywood has over the perception of certain groups, especially minorities.

BLM burnt down their inheritance.