As the country celebrates America's Independence this 4th of July weekend, a man is celebrating his newfound freedom. At 41 years old, Ryan Holle was recently released from prison after spending more than half of his life locked up.
@@rockon8174did they tell him what they were planning to do AS he loaned it to them? I’d argue that they got it from him under false pretences. 25 years for being tricked doesn’t ring to me as justifiable.
Its about time. I'm a Retired Correctional Officer and the system is SO flawed. I am happy to see this young man outide those gates. Best wishes to you, Ryan. 🙏
@@D-Nice358 he was woken up by roommate and asked for loan of his vehicle, others used his vehicle to commit horrible crime and prosecutor felt that if he hadn't loaned his car crime wouldn't have happened so he was just as guilty under the felony murder statue even though he was at home in bed when the crime occurred
Not all of them are completely innocent of wrongdoing. Each case is different. Most states have this same type of law but Florida's seems over the top.
@xo_coco_xo471 what are you talking about? The story was just posted.... I don't see one comment saying he died. He was just released on June 30th. There's not one article that says he died
You're mad at the prosecutor? Where do you think the prosecutor get his powers from him? You should be mad at the Florida lawmakers who enacted the provisions of the law.
@@robertjenkins6132Every state has a felony murder rule and your taking his word over everyone else’s. He knew the robbery was going to happen when he loaned his car.
@@darylndSo if he had lent sneakers to the actual killer who had walked to the crime scene, is he still guilty of murder? What about lending a bicycle to the actual killers? Would a taxi driver be guilty of murder for giving them a ride?
The benefit? Private prisons rake in profits. The wealthy, including the wealthy politicians don't give a damn about the innocent. We are all dollar signs to them.
There isn't one person in Florida who hasn't been in jail here and everybody outside of Florida will tell you don't go to Florida because they will put you in jail guess what I'm a retired 68 year old who called the police for help because my son-in-law put his hands on me I have never been arrested in my life and I have an impeccable background check along with an impeccable driving the officer will the sheriff actually who was only on the job for 6 months decided that I was the aggressor I was shocked and I spent one whole night in jail even had to carry my bed to a cell had to bend over so they could look how humiliating it is to even just be in a place like that I feel sorry for anyone and everyone who has to go to jail and I will never sit by and not bail anybody out I will be the first one there to help..
Charges were never brought against me and my bail was less than $50 ... even the girls in there when they saw my paper work couldn't understand why my bail was so low for an assault and battery domestic...so why the sheriff did that is beyond me but I can tell you at 68 it did do something to me and I will never forget that horrible night..😢
I'm struggling to understand how he is guilty of murder *if he was not there and didn't even know the killing happened.* Why am I responsible for the actions of other people??? Did I commit a crime by giving you a hammer *if I didn't know you intended to hit somebody with it???*
You seem naive an misinformed. This media outlet has an agenda, and are lying and omitting facts. He was involved, and the reaon he was convicted is because the others involved all told the same story about him being involved. He knew what they were about to do, and willingly gave them his car.
That law is completely flawed! What a shame this guys life was wasted! I loaned my truck to a douche bag roommate years ago and he left it behind a bar for 3 days! He told me it was stolen, but because he was as mature as a 6 year old boy, he lied because he was mad at me! If he had murdered someone, I could be in jail right now! What a stupid law!
Yeah but this guy's white and modern-day "logic" dictates that he deserved it. If black, then he wouldn't have and would've been released the next day. You know, common sense type stuff. 🤣
No, justice would be the state awarding him over 5 million for stealing his life and causing pain and suffering, and changing the law. Of course, doing the same for others who are also innocent.
I'm all for the felony murder rule, but if you can't prove he was a participant or conspirator, why would you even charge him? He probably loaned his car out half asleep.
He needed a real lawyer because they reduced his sentence to 25 years but he is still classified as guilty for something he didn't do. He didn't get exonerated for the charges only to prevent him from suing the state of Florida 🤦♂️
@supergenerationgamers in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, a law was passed that people who are innocent and incarcerated can't sue the state when released. In order to be financially compensated, they need to sue the city where they were arrested. Every state has different rules and hopefully this gentleman will get compensation. You take care 🙂
@@esparka So I disagree if I loan my truck and my buddy kills someone with a gun robbing. I shouldn't be held accountable. I wasn't even f****** there. And even if they called me and told me they're doing this. I wouldn't believe them. And I shouldn't be held accountable. Because I wasn't there. The only responsibility I have is in case of an accident. I have insurance for the other person. That's the only responsibility.
@@HalKindsvater I can certainly believe that you’re not happy with the law the way it is written. Nevertheless, this gentleman had found himself on the other side of that law and he paid the price. To repeat, the man wasn’t wrongfully imprisoned at all. He was imprisoned on the strength of the law as it was written. .
He was not wrongfully imprisoned per that law. Nevertheless, this law is unjust, and prone to abuse by corrupt DAs, as in this case. The law should be revised and tightened. Just lending your car should not get you charged for murder. Because no one will agree to lend their car if the friend tells you they are going to commit a crime. This is too much government in our lives.
Maybe. But a jury only sees what the judge allows them to see, and they are not supposed to consult outside sources of information. So they have limited information, and they are asked to follow the judges precise instructions when delivering a verdict. So maybe they do not have as much information and freedom as you imagine.
@robertjenkins6132 That, I understand. Many jurors fail at critical thinking. Any defense attorney, even one terrible at defending their clients. Would have to let it be known that this man was not at the scene of the crime. Or they would have to ask, what part did you play in the murder of this young woman? I can't see these points being missed in statements by a defense attorney.
@@robertjenkins6132 There's a thing called *jury nullification*. The average person is so ill-informed they don't know that jury has the legal right to find someone not guilty even if all the evidence suggests otherwise.
@MightMouse2174 I agree with that, for some offenders and if you're actually guilty of a crime. This man murdered no one. Seems his defense attorney could have argued this point strongly enough that he would have been found not guilty?
I thought this was going to be one of those stories in which an innocent person was discovered as not guilty, and a miscarriage of justice was corrected. Instead, he was forced to serve out this ridiculous sentence, as if no mistake was made.
@@CHRISTIANNWO Massive amounts of tax dollars are used for mostly private Florida prisons. Money that could be used for programs that benefit people in need. Keeping innocent people in prison cost taxpayers money.
Florida typically charges inmates ($10-50/day) for being incarcerated. They leave jail with a bill, sometimes that bill is actually for the full sentence length even if the individual only served a partial sentence length.
That is the stupidest conclusion, "no car, no crime." They could have gone and stolen a car, or they could have called a cab. No, the real criminals would have found a way to commit the crime. This was really unfair on this man...
@@lindasue263 For handing his car keys over to someone while he's semiconscious, that later commits a crime? The murderers are those that actually did the crime.
bologna, he should have never lent his car and he should have been an honest and prudent person by calling the police to alert them that his friend is planned and armed robbery. The Synder girl should have never been beaten to death by this man's "friends".
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky It is a violation if you know the person you are lending your car to does not have a driver's license and or they are going to commit an illegal act. Only the people listed on the insurance policy are covered by the policy. Lending the vehicle to unauthorized drivers can be grounds for cancelling the policy. Knowingly concealing a crime is a moral question that may be determined by a person's sense of right and wrong and their principles on basic human decency. Bad things happen to bad men and that is a great reason to not associate with murdering drug addicts.
@@CoolChannelName 'It is a violation if you know the person you are lending your car to does not have a driver's license.' It is a violation of law to lend your car to someone without confirming that they have a current license. Right to Drive./ If your neighbor tells you that they are going to commit a crime is it a violation of law for you to not report? Owners of cars are responsible for the insurance of their vehicles. Be they owned outright , with paper, leased or rented. If a car is registered the insurance company with a stamp on th eregistration is responsible for damages, up to limit of the policy, until the registration is cancelled or transferred. Immorality, in and of itself, is not a crime. Did this guy spend too long in jail for his Crime? Not enough time in church?
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky Driving is a privilege and not a right. Yes, it would be a violation of law if you admitted to knowing. That is why most witnesses claim they didn't see or hear anything, or they cannot recall. The prosecutor would have to prove you knew. Most people incriminate themselves because they think they are smart, and they love talking about it. You are half right on the insurance responsibility being on the company, but the liability is ultimately on the customer who can be sued by the company after the fact for damages that exceeded policy coverage or policy terms and conditions. If you look you will find thousands of people being sued by their insurance company. One of the main reasons insurance companies perform credit checks is to see if the customer has any court judgements against them, specifically from other insurance companies. I can agree that immorality alone is not a crime. Immoral does break moral law and this is where the line between right and wrong is often blurred by immoral people. There is no place on earth where stealing, lying and murdering is legal or lawful. We can establish what immoral and what is moral. It was immoral to imprison this man for as long as they did. The sentence did not match the crime and his plight is an example of the dangers of literal application of law by only reading the letter or the law. No laws can be absolute.
@@TheRealScooterGuy ok but still he didnt know what they were doing it would be different if they said "Hey can I borrow your car to go rob and kill someone?" then he said "yeah sure go ahead" in THAT case THEN he would be liable. But that wasnt the case, he found out what they did AFTER the fact
The prison system in Florida needs to be reformed. After people serve a sentence, they have a record of every charge assigned a point & these points remain even after 20 years on a persons record. If the person get arrested again and charged, they will be sentenced according to the total number of points rather than the individual conviction the person faces.This point system is unfair and makes it impossible for a person to restore their life.
If his friend had borrowed his car, ran a red light, been pulled over for it, would the cop issue the friend driving and him at home both a ticket. Florida has some of the scariest laws in the country.
My grandson was convicted by a non unanimous jury with NO physical EVIDENCE at All, in fact the detective in charge had the crime scene cleaned up before it could be investigated. Sound like a set-up or cover up??!!😡
This is the most insanely ridiculous law I’ve ever heard of! No car no crime?!?! Wtf Florida??? I’m glad he’s able to smile, I’d be so lividly PISSED at EVERYONE. I hope he is able to continue channeling his freedom in positive ways.
That’s so far from the truth! The unfortunate part is, our system is broken, flawed in that one must prove their innocence beyond a reasonable doubt to avoid prosecution. Shameful in this day and age! The only way this gets fixed is by state legislation and a ground roots effort to change these laws! No innocent person should ever spend a minute behind bars!
So if someone comes over my house to eat and they stab and kill another person with a steak knife on my dinner table I can go to jail for life? Is this the bizarro world?
If they said they were going to stab someone and you hand them the murder weapon then you are just as culpable for the murder, so yes you'd be going to jail. This isn't a new concept by any means and it's common knowledge.
His sentence should not have been commuted, he should have never been locked up. Reporters should have been all over this case 20 years ago, not after the fact!
Remember that this story is coming from the same media that says Ahmaud Arbery was a jogger, Bruce Jenner is a woman, and Russia's invasion was unprovoked. The Western State Media lies constantly.
“No car, no crime.” Are you fucking serious? Dude was sleeping and a crime he didn’t even commit, that’s absolutely insane to send an innocent man to prison. “Hey man, you’re only getting 25 years and not life. We showed you mercy.” He should be getting compensated for this.
Nice to see a sensible comment in the midst of a sea of ignorance. The guy said himself that his friends told him about the crime they were about to commit, and he did nothing. And considering that they had been partying together, it's a safe bet he knew what kind of people he was hanging around with (one of them was even his roommate). The media lies to us every day, yet people swallow stories like this hook, line, and sinker. For those listening closely, the takeaway of this story was that there are some bleeding hearts who want to spring the bad guys from prison.
So you think life in prison is fair for something he "might've known"? For something he probably thought was a joke or something dumb his dumb friend said?
@@jenniferwhalen6292 The question I asked doesn't have anything to do with "research". I just asked if you thought it was fair that someone that wasn't there gets life in prison. And if you do, then you're part of the problem with our society.
Between things like this and Florida's treatment for mental health, we should be ashamed. Thing have to change. This is a waste of lives, time and tax dollars. Glad he is out and now can move foward
I wasn't locked up anywhere near as long as this gentleman but when I got out, I could smell every flower, every blade of grass! And I loved the feel of rain on my face! That's freedom! I'm so happy for you buddy!
@azseg There is probably even more to the story than that--like he failed to cooperate after the crime came to light. Seems a bit draconian 'just for loaning out a car' but the report started hinting there was more.
But in reality he was charged because someone told him they were going commit a home invasion and he told them to take his car and they ended up murdering someone. They are all culpable in that situation since they were all involved.
I want to know if now that he's out if he's on the hook for paying for all those years in prison. Especially since this was so undeserved I think he should not have to pay the likely huge sum of his stay in prison.
I agree! I worked with a man who let a friend "borrow" his gun. He didn't think anything of it (never let anyone borrow your gun, ever) and the guy murdered someone. The guy I worked with was on Death Row for 5 years before the man came forward and confessed to the murder. Some things should just never beused by anyone but you and a spouse or child (and never your gun).
Some of these laws are so flawed and with a stroke of a pen they can be changed. That law of not being at the scene of a crime and have nothing to do with the crime, however, charged with the crime is just dumb.
I have a feeling he's holding some information back. These were his friends and party buddies. One of them was his roommate. The idea that he was totally in the dark about their intentions is not credible.
@@cmjGemara I watched another video after I posted that comment. It was from four years ago and it's about 20 minutes long. Turns out that his friends told him what was going down IN PERSON before they even left the house in his car, and he gave them bandanas to wear. They even talked about "putting the girl to sleep" if she was home when they got there to do the robbery. But he says he didn't take it seriously. And - he personally knew the girl who was brutally beaten to death. Also, the prosecutor offered this guy a plea deal for ten years, which he refused. So yeah, the media is just doing their normal thing here, trying to get everyone outraged over the "unjust" verdict and change the law.
"No car, no crime"??? So if they had taken a taxi/Uber/bus, the taxi/Uber/bus driver would be charged with murder??? What if they had walked there or rode a bike??? Would he have been convicted of murder for lending sneakers or a bicycle to the actual killers???