Man Sues Dealership After Loaner Car Gets Reported as Stolen 

Mind blowing.

It's utterly pathetic.

My exact same thought

Basic defense

@@TrebleTS20Yeah, you never admit fault immediately. This will be quietly settled out of court. They clearly reported the car stolen. In depositions, they’ll have to admit it was given as a loaner car and a police report was filed as stolen-open and shut case.

Me too 👍🏻

Yeah I don't see why he wouldn't it seems like a pretty open and shut case

@@SuperSlimshady1 exactly 👍🏻

They probably head straight to settlement

I hope he wins the lawsuit as well.

That is the USA for ya. No accountability nor responsible for the report.

I agree. That's the crazy part right there. The dealership basically doesn't want to be man/woman enough to own up to the big mistake they did. I hope he wins this case against Kia.

🗣️🤯

They called her to tell her about the mistake... obviously they found the agreement and immediately called her. Too bad they they didn't bother to find it BEFORE calling the police.

🤔🤫

Because they had their car in for repairs. The police probably let them know it was recovered and they realized what had happened. Not rocket science.

👀 Suspicious, right?

It was most likely after they found the agreement. Because they told her about the mix up.

“We don’t know how we lost the paperwork! It was right here and BAM!”

Y’all think one person works at a dealership or something? Incredibly stupid but not a jailable offense lmao.

​@@undefined69695 doesn't change the fact that it was negligence. They could have gotten that man killed

Hmm what did we do with the paper work? Must be stolen yeah that’s it

@@EmmureMARIO64 One would think with the age of technology, all that information would've been in their computer database too.

that's a question I don't think anybody can answer

right, you know the information was in their system. All they had to do was look it up when they saw it was gone before ever contacting police.

@@illumonic9026 true, but that would be too smart for a money grubbing business like a dealership

It wasn’t a mistake … wink wink😜

What do they care? Rental car companies do this all the time too

"Considered" armed and dangerous. By the cops...because he's black. So they can make a big deal out of it.

With stolen cars, they automatically consider the occupants as armed and dangerous.

Huge!

​@@karlroveynot true.

​@karlrovey Where did you get that information from? 😂

The government version is it was placed on the wrong shelf. Happened to me with some paperwork I filed at the courthouse. If I hadn’t kept calling because it was taking so long they’d have never found it.

I mean do people even have filing cabinets any more?

Dealerships don't even do paperwork anymore. Everything is done electronically and your copy is given to you on a credit card thumb drive or texted/emailed directly to you. Dealerships is just lying.

@@cassandradistin9699 *Younger Gen: What's a filing cabinets?*

@@cassandradistin9699yes lmfao

They said in the report to police "A black guy was seen roaming in the premises and he might have took the car" which they gave it to him

I work at a dealer everyone up front is restarted

It's Kia, not Mercedes. There's no way they would have video cameras. I work at a Nissan dealership, I haven't seen video cameras at any non-luxury car dealerships. Brand new Cadillac dealership opened close by me, no video cameras either. This is in DFW Texas.

@@DOHC2Lthat’s crazy because every rundown gas station has security cameras. Why would only luxury dealerships have them? Not like they’re a big expense.

@@I_like_aliens_from_marsIf that’s true, just wow. What a lousy establishment

Agreed. This is one of the idiotic things that I have ever seen in my life. Why would a employee misplaced something that they made a deal to the loaner.

Because in America, calling the police is always the answer. Here in the UK, more questions would have been asked before dispatching.

The employee should be going to prison, the entire dealership needs investigated, this happens more often than not, and it’s done on purpose.

These sales flow through like in a McDonald’s. the contract was never entered in a computer.

No mixup, someone at the dealership should go to jail!

You need to lend them some of your common sense. The dealership obviously doesn't have any.

Exactly man, they didn't even TRY to see where the car went. They just couldn't see it, so they automatically assumed stollen without even knowing how the car was moved. Hell, they apparently couldn't even ask their own employee's if they knew where the car went. Imagine living a life where every time you misplaced something and instead of looking for it you called the cops because someone must have stolen it.

Yes someone jumped the gun. Got all excited to call the police without doing proper research.

Money

​@@ladydi1079 dude, it's Kia. They DEFINITELY have some

You know exactly why 😂

Exactly 😂

Color of his skin. And the fact it's california.

bc you dont steal a car with ur feets

​@Xtremecherry95YT 😂😂😂 California, try the deep South. Especially Alabama and Mississippi.

He's right! They wouldnt ask...they would accuse! 2 cars were stolen off the BMW lot because the dealers left the keys out on their desks after closing they blamed the technicians and detailers and required us to get finger printed to prove it was an inside job. Refusal of providing finger prints was termination. I live in Florida

My Brother said the exact same thing! The Detailers get the blame for everything that goes wrong

@@ninam.1560 Tell him to document all of those interactions! Keep his phone at his side while recording so he at least picks up the audio. Start building his case against the people making accusations

I remember that one time me and my brother went to look at cars. My brother saw one that he really liked and the dealer guy said to keep looking at it that he was going to go look for the keys to look at the inside. While looking we saw that the keys were already in the ignition and my brother tried opening the car door and it was unlocked. The guy took about 40 minutes to come back to his surprised he found us inside the car waiting for him. He was so confused and concerned on how we got in the car since he couldn't find the keys until we told him.

@@patinpatin12 alot of dudes would have gotten a free car that day

Because they know they're screwed.

"We need to buy enough time to make up a credible story to get us off the hook for this."

I am curious if they didn’t update the information in the computer system; that the car was loaned to someone and who. I am never going to borrow a car from any dealership. If I do, I’m gonna ask them to email that document to me that shows I borrowed the car from here. I got more trust issues after watching this than I did in the past.

White people

America

And saying he's an armed car thief for no reason

This is what I don't get. Someone that worked at the dealership clearly gave him the keys. Why not, you know, ask your employees if anyone knows what happened to the car before reporting it stolen?

Ever heard of the saying, "I'm surrounded by idiots". The paperwork is missing = stolen car. 🤦

A lot of things aren't black and white but this one sure sounds like it. Modest looking black dude. Two things come to my racist sale man who was supposed to help him or sale person didn't like something the customer did or said and got back at him for it .

I think the dealer wanted the car, couldn't find it on the lot so they checked to see if it were loaned out and when then couldn't find the papers they assumed it was stolen. But come on this was in 2021, do you mean to tell me there is no computer record of the car being loaned out? No...everything is on the computer these days, the "paper" is just a print out to be filed away or given to the customer. That begs the question, did the customer actually have the loaner agreement in the car?

Reckless endangerment

shame on the lack of it

It’s definitely black privilege, though. If this happened to a white guy, law firms wouldn’t be so eager to take his case. The law firms know the black guy will win purely on that

Plus any taxes and fees.👍

I want you as a my judge if this ever happens to me. The judge probably laughed and give him 100 and a McDonald’s biscuit for his trouble

And don't buy a Kia.

@@hurricane37 for putting his life in danger?

I know you like the ghetto lottery but being detained for a few hours will only get he a used car

Hear hear!!!!

It " fell behind the filing cabinet " was their excuse

@@thomasfletcher760 I heard that part. Such a lame and pathetic excuse

Every document nowadays is scanned before being put away or being registered. That is a poor excuse. I hope they become millionaires.

Some places have real scummy staff who will do what ever they can to screw someone over, just to get money out of them. Had a friend of mine who rented a car from a car rental, and 3 days later got pulled over as the company had reported the car stolen, when he still had more than a week to return it. He sued and won the case, the rental company had apparently had a small record of claiming some cars as stolen. said location was shut down and all the staff arrested.

What’s really ridiculous was how much power the police was packing. I mean… assault rifles over a car theft? And the way they still aimed at him when he didn’t even try to escape in the car (I imagine that last one was part of a standard procedure to ensure the safety of the officers, but still.)

Pay him millions! OMFG! That's not even worth $100 bucks.

Pay him 50 million

@@bigd3046 Not about the amount. It's about making the dealership to actually put proper processes and practices to prevent it from happening in the future again. Not just this dealership, but all dealerships.

Pay him millions? Lol

I don't know about millions but definitely should be some sort of pay. That's crazy they need to be held accountable

Stealing cars from a dealer ship would most likely mean they were prepared for any consequences so there is reasonable suspicion for a armed person during a traffic stop as he couldn’t be identified by the loaned vehicle due to no info so they would be stopping an unidentified driver

I was thinking the same thing.

@angelc286 Excellent, well stated! Part of the questions the victim's attorney should be using at trial against Kiv liars at the dealership who intentionally caused this to happen!

@@oinkytheink1228you didn’t even try to respond to the points laid out. They had all the family’s information. They could have given them a call. They already called the wife.

What likely happened: 1. The couple placed their car in a mechanic's care, as it's said that they were getting repairs on it. 2. The couple licensed the dealership's car as a loaner while it was being repaired. 3. Through negligence of the employees, the loan agreement was lost behind a filing cabinet. 4. The Kia dealership, noticing a car missing and not having an agreement, assumed the car had been stolen and reported it as such to the police. 5. The loan agreement was found in AFTER the report, and the dealership called the wife through that information. Step #4, of course, is the source of the lawsuit: Surely someone at the dealership would remember a car being stolen, attempt to locate the original papers, or look through security footage to see if the car had been taken legally or not. I can't say why the dealership assumed the suspect was armed and dangerous other than the general assumption of "You don't commit grand theft auto without a gun", and of course, that assumption is a key point in the lawsuit. This is all just MY conjecture, of course.

when you sue , you have to sue everyone who's involved. That's the way it goes !!!

@@debbiec6216 The lawsuit can't target the individual of the company. It has to be the company. The only thing the company can do is fire the incompetent.

Donald trump apparently is 🤦🏼‍♂️

@@DarthSailorMoo They can sue the individual, but suing the company will reap in more money. That's why you always sue the company

@@gush7573 No they can't...

I thought my headphone was messing up 😂

I was literally looking for this comment 🎯

Yep!

I agree, and the fact he is with a woman of another race.

Facts

They may have lost all there black customers and other races that don't like that kind of response.

😂😂😂😂😂 And then they point to a scratch they claim wasn’t there before 😂😂😂😂😂

they did NOT want him to take a few minutes and complete a service survey.

"Good, I'm about to get rich" 💰 🤑

😂😂

The crazy cops almost cost him his life

not shut down - the dealership needs to pay that man big $$

​@@Charmander009 the police brutality plus the dealership telling the police he was armed just added more to the case

I agree they have to close down, for CLIENTS SAFETY !

​@@sinatraforeignSTFU. Fake news. The dealership never said he was armed. Standard practice is to always treat the occupants of a stolen vehicle as armed and dangerous.

And cops

@@Charmander009 You sue the 1 that prescribed the order not the 1 that administered the order

Where in the video does it show he was almost killed?

@@zachgalante3577 multiple rifles pointed at him if he did something wrong and he couldve been killed

@@zachgalante3577 Did you see all the police , who all had their guns up , right towards him. *That's a RED FLAG.

@@zachgalante3577 when the dealer lost the paper work for loaner....

😂😂😂

Welcome to America..

He wasn't in extrema danger. He complied and everything turned out fine.

​​@@hardwired4548He got lucky that the cops had their cameras on, the only way to keep those psychopaths in line is constant surveillance and a threat that they could lose their job and power, without cameras they would assult or kill whomever they wanted and fill out paperwork to get away with it

​@@hardwired4548clearly unaware of what counts as danger. And what would typically dealing with. It can be as crazy as rolling a 20-sided dice. With the odd less in ur favor. An do as ur told an still roll a fail.

@@hardwired4548 That's what you think, they were pointing rifles at him, what if the rifle misfires? What if he turn around a little too quick and they think he as holding a gun instead of his phone?

Right. Fell behind the cabinet is crazy.

@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf Not necessarily. I worked in an office for 27 years, and at one point while we were moving file cabinets around, we actually DID find a document that had been lost for quite some time, it can happen.

@@Joe_Okey 😆

ANY stolen vehicle report is automatically treated as though the person MAY be armed and dangerous. They only knew that they had a report of a stolen vehicle, and NOT that the report was false, so they made the CORRECT stop for the report that they had. Mr. Rodgers did exactly what they said to do, which is why he ended up being just fine in the end. The police did NOTHING wrong given the report that they were given.

@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf More likely got paper-clipped to another document on a cluttered desk top, or was inadvertently thrown away with other unneeded paperwork that it was stuck to. Happened to me at the DMV, and caused me a lot of grief and money in the end.

I said the exact same thing!!!

​@@CharlotteThomas74a lot of businesses had issues with computer hackers breaking in and stealing money from bank accounts etc. So they went back to using pen and paper lol.

​@@tomtom1541 Oh, okay! Makes perfect sense!! Since things can easily be shuffled, pushed, and slid around, if the file cabinets and desks aren't pushed against the wall and there's an opening, there's always that possibility that some paperwork may have fallen behind at some point!! Guess their cleaners weren't such good cleaners and don't clean behind things🤦🏽‍♀️🤣🤣

That was my first thought 😂

@@Andy-xx3tt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

lawyer

Even with proof ppl get away with stuff & ppl get imprisoned with no proof

Misplace*

Not just that but the person that served him had NO recollection of loaning out that car?

@@askapk Definition of "displace": move (something) from its proper or usual position.

I hope that question was rhetorical. Because my answer would be VERY stupid.

Right

They don't ever do that. Nowadays you on your own if youre car is stolen.

​@@ALo-yv2pjThey probably did it because it was via a place of business, and not privately owned vehicle.

The deputies had apparently been told that he was armed and dangerous, so that was the reason for the felony stop and how it was handled.

@@SoloPilot6 Why would they be told that he was armed and dangerous? If the reason for the call was that Kia "lost" the paperwork, they shouldn't have any clue about the status of him being armed or not. So Kia essentially lied to the cops to make sure their precious car would get more police attention?

Could be their department policy

"For their safety"

Police do this to every stolen car

It is standard procedure to reported car thieves as armed and dangerous, I think it's because you could hide quite a few weapons in said car.

@@blitsriderfield4099Makes sense. Officers showed a lot of restraint not shooting him 🥴

Yes! And whoever the employee was needs to also be sued. Did an employee lose the paperwork and was trying to give his butt or something

Their attorney that was interviewed in the video will make certain of that.

Hertz is good for reporting rented cars stolen!

Yea because this happened to me last year .

People need to realize: that pot smoking, hungover employee who didn't type half the things you just said? They're the ones that stand between you and a horrible day. Once you grasp this, it becomes a MIRACLE that this doesn't happen every single day!

Their attorneys likely strongly advised against admitting fault. That particular KIA franchise would have garbage legal council had they not.

DWB

Because. Car. Thieves. Usually. Have. Guns.

@@randalls.6547do they?

@@randalls.6547 Unless its a carjacking, they normally wont be armed, this clearly wasn't and he also complied, so is no reason to think he would.

@@gregwren691 haha, this brought me back to that Chris Rock sketch video about DWB.

What

As if the dispatcher don't keep track of the call history

they'll just pay the judge off... this is america remember.

Lol because it’s a felony stop.

No cause he was black

​@@javier7717Exactly as usual.

I think that was just behavior on the police part. Unless the Kia dealership gave a description of the person that they said stole it.

​@javier7717 literally, why would a company care about skin color? It was a mistake(even though I don't know why the dealership would say he is armed and dangerous, as no injuries happened). The description was awfully vague, so it could be anyone

Tell me the fact that it was a felony Grand Theft Auto artifact that most cases they have a firearm or a knife😊

Black you know, the world already know

​@danrise44 no, it's because it's a car that's been reported stolen. More times than not, that's going to involve a weapon or tool that can be used as a weapon

It aint that hard bro just use common sense

@@idkanymore1298 people get nervous with multiple guns pointed at them.

​@@idkanymore1298I hope you find yourself in this situation. Better yet, I hope it's someone you love.

@pharag4886 that's messed up dude, what would your mother say?

@@idkanymore1298 I sense that the person might have trouble in their personal life thar they can vent under the cover of anonymity. I think they deserve a bit of grace.

Forget the car, a KIA. The dealership should be sued for at least 6 digits

They should buy him a Lexus

@@jojojayjay9617 Yes, the South Korean manufacturer KIA is directly responsible for the American employee of a KIA _franchise_ who "lost the agreement". 🤔

And money

They'll win. Lawsuits taken forever to be processed for some reason. That guy that hit his head in a cruise ship received a million dollar payout eventually so it's worth the wait.

​​@@silverjeyjey4054Cases like this get deliberately strung out, hoping the plaintiff can't afford to keep paying fees and attorneys, and will just give up or settle.

That dealership knew what they were doing that’s why. It’s sad for the black guy to be put through that situation

@@_UsernameUnavailable_ On cases like this the attorney takes 33% of the settlement, if they win. No upfront money required.... At least that is the way all of them work that i know of, plus the one i was involved in.