@jayrowe6473 He wasn't of the mind to have an honest conversation when I expressed a point of view with which he disagreed. I believe an eye roll, maybe? We were on opposite sides of issues such as masking and the continuation of the lockdown when there was strong evidence that showed masking and those silly plexiglass barriors everywhere did not affect infection rates. By the time the feds began putting pressure on social media platforms to censor what was being said, he already had estranged himself from us. (His wife, as a college educated (English degree, can't hold down a job) liberal woman was no small part of the estrangement). They are 32, my wife and I are 66 and 72, respectively.
The best part of being an engineer and mechanic is I can re-program any ECM and remove any infringement software. Bring it! More business for me and us modifiers. I already remove all the annoying exhaust systems.
They will require car companies to install additional software that automatically notifies the state if a driver exceeds more than 5 mph over the speed limit so they can issue a citation and a fine.
they will start ticketing people that are 1 mile over the posted speed, as the speed limiter is going to allow you up to 10 miles over the posted speed.
I have to agree with the other guy. I think the threshold of the offense will just get lowered to the point where if you're even a fraction of a mile an hour over the speed limit, they'll issue an infraction telling you they get the vehicle serviced and citing you so everybody can make money. We live in a capitalist society. That's one of the downfalls of such
Most people will be removing these limiters, or if they are ECU based simply modifying or replacing the ECU. Downright hilarious they think this is gonna work.
@@cropduster123 Coal is a very minor source of power in most of the Western world. Even in the US, the one Western country that still uses much coal, it was onky 16% of the grid last year, and rapidly decreasing. Natural gas is fine. It burns so cleanly that we use it unvented in kitchens. You guys need to do some actual research, and not just parrot the morons on Fox.
Two issues with proposed 'over speed' laws - (1) too much government intervention into our private lives (2) dangerous - there are many times one needs a quick burst of speed to avoid personal harm. And, I agree - better driver's education could make a big difference in the manner of drivers' attention to local speed laws.
I guess the gov'ment is trying to put the auto makers out of business 😆. Folks will just keep driving their old cars for years and years and years... 🙂
The lack of automotive knowledge in this statement is astonishing. You realize that your car that you drive has between 40 and 140 computer modules in it that all talk to each other??? A system like this would be tied into at least a dozen of them. Please go ahead and tell me how to "remove" it....I'll wait.
Thanks for talking about this. My newest car is an '03. I also dont let google maps track me either. TOTALLY agree on the better drivers ed. I grew up in the Midwest. Permit at 14. Four seasons. Real license at 18. No substitute for practice
Speed limit sensors installed next thing you know the speed limits are downgraded everywhere and what used to be "HIGHWAY" speeds will now be at the discretion of Big Brother and your automaker........no thanks! We're already way past gov't creeping into our lives, anything extra at this point is just a big HELL NO!
They can do that now with the computers and cameras. My F150 shows the posted speed on the dash tied in with the GPS. Its only a small step to limit the the speed in the car you just bought that runs to 60 in 3 seconds, to the posted limit. Any bets on self-driving vehicles will only do the posted limit?
Myself and many other drivers are not in favor of speed governors. Generally speaking, this will basically take the fun out of driving. With advanced safety features on new vehicles now, this speed governor would be a waste of time and money. Unfortunately, the Government keeps finding new ways to mess up the auto industry. The first mess up was when they said quote "we need more production of EVs." Then, issuing a shortened mandated timeline to do so. Now, this with the speed governor.
Germany makes it harder to obtain, and easier to lose, a license. Americans don't seem to understand that driving is a privilege you earn, not a right handed to you.
@@brianlammers2743 actually you will the EU made speed limiters mandatory on new vehicles from 20/07/2024. But you are allowed to switch them off it’s just they have to automatically start every time the car starts and you can then switch off.
You haven't seen anything yet, wait till the speed limiters go into affect on large trucks this year, backups everywhere as trucks try to get around other slower moving vehicles.
HGV's in the UK have had speed limiters for decades, doesn't really cause any issues, you get to odd pair trying to outpace each other occasionally on motorways, which holds up traffic yeah, but not often. Not that I agree with limiting speed on cars.
It won't take long for people to offer a service that removes that speed limit govenor really quick. Also not having that extra speed available is going to risk people's lives.
I may be wrong but I think the German Autobahn has no speed limits (all or part of it?) I also believe they have some of the strictest driver training and licensing. Perhaps this would be a better approach than "speed restrictors".
The lease keeps getting shorter for the proles. The government wants to chain us to our cell walls forever. Im sure all government vehicles will have "special spec" vehicles that have a delete option for this feature.
Government will always let you register your vehicle to pay those sweet taxes. It'll be the insurance companies that will make your car undrivable as they won't insure it unless you sell them your soul.
Me I'm glad I'm older also but mine is I'm glad I won't be here to be the most hated minority ever and it's already starting the clock goes tick tick tick has our numbers go down looks like the sunscreen suntan lotion industries going to go with us
There are tuners on the market right now that will re-program your ECM and remove a lot of the built-in limitations but expect the latest and greatest to have security that will block you from doing that and there will no doubt be laws that will can put you away for altering it. Don't you think the coming self-driving cars will have some serious security on the ECM's?
@@AK.__one of the founding fathers forgot his name but he said resist laws that restrict your freedom after all the tree of Liberty has to be nourished with blood every now and then
@@DouglasWilford-ls1pf Great words, agree. But this way my think some criminal, since their freedom to do whatever they want is very limited. We already have tons of restrictions related to the car owning and traffic, and they mostly keep us safe. For people who desired real speed - welcome to public and private tracks.
Simple…people just won’t buy new. I stopped in 2019 when I realised (woke up) to what was happening. Got my 2 2019 cars, but still got a 1972, 1984 classics and 2004. Looks like I won’t ever be selling again these 😜
The major problem with these systems is they can't be trusted. I have cars with the ability to read the local signs and other that only use GPS to determine the road speed. But they make a lot of mistakes. I have had the sign-reading cars see a ramp coming up and it thinks the speed limit has just dropped from 70 to 25 - I have to quickly override if I am using cruise control so I don't get rear-ended. The GPS cars can't agree on some stretches of road near me - a couple say it's 55, another says 45, and yet another says 35 (yes, i own several cars). So which is correct? There's no signs nearby, so in theory it should be 55 here in Michigan. So unless this tech can be made more reliable, its a bad idea.
I agree, the software for the auto systems, is way out of date, with wrong speeds. I see wrong ones almost every day, on my heads up display. Also it amazes me, how many Michigan drivers, don't know, that if there is no posted speed, the limit is 55. I drove one road almost every day, that has a sign that says " speed limit 45 ends". There are always idiots driving in the left lane, not even doing 45, and I have to drive around them on the right.
This is really sick. If you need to overtake and travel 11mph higher than the speed limit then the car switches off or force you to drive slower, which can cause you to meet a head on collision. Alternatively if you driving at night in a crime infested area and need to drive faster since you scared of a vehicle behind or alongside you, what happens. A better alternative is to restrict the number of vehicles on the road, encourage public transportation, and ban trucks driving on busy highways since rail can be used instead. Higher taxes and penalties for employers wanting to see their workers in the office just to micromanage and control vs helping increase performance, would also lower the traffic rate
My last two wrecks, all four vehicles totaled, were caused by unlicensed drivers. The cop covered for the other driver in the first one, the other kid got everything thrown out in court because I couldn't identify him (I rolled down the highway and needed assistance getting out of the car, so I never physically saw the other driver). No amount of Driver's Ed would've helped in those situations. That being said, all these proposed regulations are also dumb.
The ev mandates are already tanking the auto makers. I'll not buy a car with a governor on it. I'm not 16. Let all automakers tank if they won't make cars people want. FJB!!!!!
Unless you are regularly breaking the laws, the governors will not actually affect you. Millions of people drive company vehicles with governors already and they somehow manage.
@TroySavary There is a difference traditionally a governor is high enough too not matter and doesn’t change like trucks limited to 93 MPH. The speed limiters proposed change to 10 above the speed limit
@@gdub9998 What rights are being infringued in by this? Breaking traffic laws isn't a right. No new gonverning is being introduced. Speed limits already exist. This is just one more tool to enforce them. Are you going to complain the concrete lane dividers impede your right to drive into oncoming traffic? That locks impede your right to trespass?
If cars are going to limit your speed to 10 over, why do you need the interlock program of repeat speeders? No one is gonna be speeding! Government overkill.
Most people will be modding and removing these limiters if they have a performance car. Custom tuning is a thing, modifying or swapping ECU is a thing.
@@Ziegfried82 Just dont be as dumb as the tuner kids who upload videos about doing that and then wonder why the EPA shows up harassing them. If they didnt show off, the odds are the EPA would never even know they...and their modifications.... exist.
Ok Lauren. So what's your carbureted car of choice? Buying an old car is the only way to stay ahead of these people. They'll get there way eventually.😢.
Tuners can disable it. Cars already have govenors that can be bypassed. That would be no different. I have no interest in buying newer cars with too much tech, sooooo have fun with that.
Screw "LS disease" Richard Holdener has uploaded vides where he has upgraded stock 4.3 V-6 Chevy engines to produce serious power without trying to shoehorn one of those POS LS engines into that engine compartment.
I believe the politicians should be the first to have these unwanted options on their car before you make me pay for this unwanted equipment. Anyone driving 30 miles per hour convicted of going over the speed limit by 30 miles per hour should have to go jail for 30 days. That is what they deserve!
You can still write to the department of transportation, although they have closed comments they are accepting emails with your opinion. Thanks for pointing that out.
The USA has only 5 times as many people as the UK but its road deaths are a joke. 2022 USA road deaths 42,795. 2022 UK road deaths 1711. The USA has 25 times more deaths and half of them involve drink or drugs. What are you going on about speed for?
Yes high speed does lead to a higher rate of fatalities, however most accidents happen around 30mph. As you say a lot of the problems are drug use related.
@@Ziegfried82 you are right that most accidents are at a low speed but most fatal accidents are at high speed. Drink and drug driving normally involve high speed as the person has no clue the speed they are doing is inappropriate for the road or conditions like rain etc.
This isn't about speeding excessively vs not speeding. I've had a crazy person chase me before and road rage against me because they got mad when I honked at them for cutting me off. They threw a drink at my car, tried to cut me off and brake check me, and chased me down. I did not know if they were armed or would try to run me off the road. Because my car was faster than theirs, I was able to get away. Speeding did not matter to me because it was an emergency situation. Now imagine if they had an older car, and I had a new car and couldn't go faster than 55mph in that 45 zone. They could kill me and I wouldn't be able to get away because my car refused to let me...
Imagine there’s a tsunami or hurricaine warning and people are trying to flee with their belongings, but someone was driving below the speed limit and no one could speed up to overtake them.
The reason why fatalities are increasing is because the people feel that they could just walk out in front of a car and that the car will automatically stop that they have the right away instead of just looking both ways and waiting patiently another thing they do I’ve seen a big parking lot as they walk behind cars and backing up that have the reverse lights on for some reason they feel that the guy will stop good luck When I was a kid I went to California in the 80s and I was waiting for the cars to pass and my brother said no you could just walk out they will stop I laughed. I said this will never work in New York problem is now those Californians are living in New York and they feel like it should
It's just fine to have speed limiters in Semi's but NOT in YOUR car. I relocate cars between rental locations, I usually ser the cruise control for 2mph over the speed limit and Never end up passing a single vehicle, most of the time the rest of the traffic is doing 10+mph over the speed limit and tailgating to boot.
Between speed limiters and data being sent from the car to insurance companies, I won't buy a new car ever again. Frame up restorations if I have too!!
Why not just fit behaviour control chips to the temple of drivers? Then they can limit all untrue thoughts including the inclination to speed. In the name of the public wellbeing, of course....
Just who is it that will decide - for the car - what the speed limit is? If you happen to be driving in an area with 75 MPH limits (like a lot of roads in Texas) and you hit a 50 MPH zone with no warning signs, will the car suddenly lock the brakes to slow you down?
Where is the National Motorists Association on this? I just went to their website and I see NOTHING about it anywhere. These are the people who helped get rid of the 55 NMSL back in 1995. They should be on top of this. Grrrr.
Were’s the link you’re talking about in the video to go against the governor device thing on cars. We’re is the link to sign or contact so our voice is heard.
If that ever happens, there will be plenty of RU-vid fixes posted on how to either remove the limiter,vor bypass it. No worries. Vote out anyone in public office that doesn't stand up for us, or doesn't stand up for our Constitution 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
We all agree staring at a cell phone while driving is unsafe, right. But when it’s a giant screen that’s part of the car that I need to use for every option on the vehicle now that’s safe. Just give me simple physical buttons and switches. If you want GPS then German cars from 2015 have you covered. How do we have such great things and then ruin them.
@@PedroFerrer-vq5sw👍 i just got a 2023 Jeep Gladiator Willys and it has buttons for almost everything. The screen is there but I rarely need it. No nanny sensors beeping all the time. It is a much better driving experience.
On the street near me the speed limit is 45, but on both vehicles my GPS doesn’t have a speed limit. So would my car come to a stop, or would I only be able to drive ten miles an hour? I’m not to crazy about idiots speeding, but odds are they will be just as dangerous talking on their cell phone at the speed limit.
I don't mind the notification, but I do not like the car making decisions like that. No, we should not be speeding more than 10 over - that's generally unsafe and not legal. But if we are cruising along at eight over - which is completely normal here in Georgia and even protected from being pulled over here by non-state patrol officers using detection devices - an emergency situation could arise where you might need a quick bursts of speed to avoid an accident. I don't want the car telling "No, no, no! You can't do that!" My new Toyota senses the speed limit side and then highlights on the gauge cluster and in my HUD. I think that is fine and sufficient.
It wouldn't be necessary if there wern't so many A-holes on the road. When people are going way over the speed limit when there is moderate traffic, they end up weaving in and out of traffic, and even if they don't crash they create anxiety in other drivers. Just like speeds bumps, which everyone hates, we are going to get this handed to us jsut because of a few A-holes
What does one do when cruising in a new Corvette on the expressway in downtown Dallas and a Lambo pulls up next to you. The Lambo presumably has the advantage of not having a governor. So you lose. How embarrassing. This will become a nice challenge for electronic software to defeat the system. Outsiders are smarter. Jenny
All vehicles should be speed limited to 100 mph except emergency vehicles. This alone would save many lives and only affect a small percentage of drivers.
Im going to make a shirt that says "Tyranny never sleep because Tyrants never rest! These tyrants will never give up on taking our freedoms from us in every aspect of our lives!
interesting concept : as a truckdriver we have speed limiters on our trucks and are subject to background checks and drug screens credit checks etc etc and obviously that’s all ok with the puplic but as soon as they wanna implement just 1 thing like speed limiters on cars , everyone gets bend outa shape well , if it’s ok to limit a truckdriver to even be able to safely flow with traffic / make more money , then it also should be ok for the motoring public to be governed to same standards , right ?
When on the road I often see someone driving like a maniac at very high speed. I often see people running the lights. A few months ago, when driving my truck and was waiting at a light my truck was slammed in to on the front passenger right side at high speed! He hit my truck so hard it actually lifted off the ground! He demolished his car so bad it had to be written off. He caused over $9,000 damage to my truck. The insurance company paid the cost to fix my truck, and they had to scrap his car. Over the years I have had my truck hit while waiting at a light or going slow in heavy traffic. There is always an idiot!
I'm almost certain there are already speed limiters in older cars. Mine is a '13 and I've been to about 112 MPH. No matter how much further I'd push the gas, it wouldn't go any faster than that even though my speedometer lists up to 160. Perhaps this was more of a Rev limiter or a safety mechanism to keep the car from blowing apart. I could smell rubber and that made me think my tires were unhappy and I slowed down a bit. Car temp never moved from where it normally sits, which is just under halfway between C and H, so I don't think it was a temperature limitation. Anyway, whatever the case, something was limiting my speed. The evolution of such a limitation would be to make it smart and dynamic. I don't support this type of tampering with someone's vehicle but I also believe they will do it with or without our consent. I believe they will install such devices and have them deactivated until such a time a law it passed and then will become active. What happens if there are no posted speed signs? What if the cameras that feed this information are broken or have debris or rain water over the lense?
Limiting speed around high human and child traffic areas is sensible. If if cuts deaths of both. I have heard breath tests are another new feature, if you over the limit the car will not start.
