Manga is NOT “Comics” 

The real ones just read both because art is art while the kids argue.

People keep talking about the industry dying but until it happens it’s literally up in the air. I don’t read floppy’s anymore and don’t tend to ever read em again because I prefer books and plus modern stuff is really more of miss than hit type of thing now so I’ll gladly do manga over the new stuff.

Happy to live in Poland, where I have equal access to all kinds of comics; Anglo-Ameriacan superhero (and other) comics, Franco-Belgian BDs, Japanese manga, Italian pulp, and graphic novels from all around the world, including e.g. Latin America and of course our native Polish scene. Mass market and independent alike.

Manga is comics.

The reason enthusiasm is stronger for manga is because 1: it’s cheaper, 2: modern comics have hit or miss writing, 3: extended universes are confusing, convoluted and not appealing to someone who didn’t grow up reading it in its prime.

Honestly they SHOULD be just called comics and they SHOULD be all throughout the the comic shelves and not separated

7:44 - "For an art for that originated it America..." Hold the phone buddy. We can split hairs on what does and doesn't count as "comics" or whatever permutations of the medium fall under that umbrella. But to say that American comic books are the defacto originator of the medium and that manga (and European comics for that matter) came out of them and doesn't have it's own separate history (yes even prior to the Disney to Tezuka influences) is obviously wrong.

All well said! I treat the distinction a little bit like champagne and wine; Is champagne wine? Sure it is. But it is from a specific region, with distinct characteristics that separate it from other wines and has it's own unique place in our culture. If someone asks what you're drinking, you would almost always say "champagne," and not wine. Similarly, American comics that have a good deal of manga influence still retain their Comics first aesthetics and sensibilities, and while they might blur the line a bit, they're still not manga, they're the sparkling whites of Comics.

Manga and western Comics are two forms of comics that have evolved culturally in very different ways. That impacts not only the stories you most often see but even how people consume them and even how they're written. As someone who really likes both comics and manga there are so many distinctions that make both unique and super cool.

if floppies do end up dying, then the whole local comic store community experience will probably also die, and then youll have kids in a couple decades from now going "man i wish i was born back in the day when everyone would go to local comic shops and you would talk about the new issues that came out that month or about the new event or whats happening with batman and superman", like they are today concerning things from the eighties. as always, people wont know what they had untill its gone. but this doesnt have to happen. people just need to stop being lazy and greedy and get out of their damn house and go actually support artists and pay for the things they love instead of wasting their money on drugs and alcohol and other bullshit.

i think a bigger reason is that manga has alot of direct adaptations that give casual readers an opening to read them. sure comics have movies and shows but they're not a 1 to 1 it's just setting and characters. i'm reading Invincible and it's really cool to be able to see the slight differences the show makes, same with Deadly Class. I don't think all adaptations should be like that, it just makes it easier for a none reader to get into reading.

Never been a fan of superhero stuff, but there are some indie comics I really love. Especially on the horror side of comics.

One reason manga is much popular than comics is bc most mangas get adapted into tv shows(anime) maybe marvel should do the same and adapt the comics into amazing animation! I’ll pitch the idea once I make it to the top of comics.

You spend the better majority of this video making an argument against manga being "comics" that absolutely doesn't hold up to even the smallest bit of scrutiny, then there's just a switch up at the end for no apparent reason. IDK, bro. This sucks.

I read some early manga like Mai, Ranma and Robotech in the 80s, and it never really hit me, so I never followed up after that. But you know what else is comics? KOMIKS. The Filipino art form which has been around since the 40s and spawned such legends as Darna and Lastikman, then inspiring several generations of Pinoy artists to work for the Big Two and various indies (as some do to this day, including Image co-founder Whilce Portacio). I'd love to see a video about Komiks done by a Western RU-vidr, but I'm not sure it's ever actually happened yet, not even by the likes of Kayfabe or Tropes, and also including the TV shows it has spawned in the Philippines.

You're argument is presented as "manga isn't comics" but if I'm understanding right, it seems like what you're main point is that there isn't a proper term to distinguish DC/Marvel from the medium itself. I'm from the UK, before the superhero movie boom the idea of a comic in my head meant the comedy strip style ones. So now (at least the region I live in) we use the term "Beano" to refer to that type. It isn't technically correct because The Beano was a specific brand. But there isn't really anything else you can call them. It's a strange phenomenon. I can't tell if you're just exaggerating for the camera or not, but if you feel genuinely disstressed I would recommend getting into etymology and language evolution. Might give you a better perspective.

Interesting food for thought! So the comic book industry (major publishers) is market driven... then are "we" fighting a losing battle for the comic book in the classic sense that manga is "pulling" (popular) dollars from the classic comic book industry causing its decline ? I would argue that the comic book/graphic novel is an American created art form. Along with the Blues and Rock'n Roll the three art forms that the United States has blessed the world with. (I believe France can claim the first printed collection of static cartoon boxes - I am talking about sequential art to tell a story.) Are we seeing another cycle where the major publishers are forced by virtue of the dollar to return to quality written artistically rendered comic books? I am old enough to remember the investing craze and crap of the 90's with card stock die cut covers with Marvel declaring bankruptcy and the wonderful quality correction of the 2000's that inspired the current cinematic interpretations of the likes of Guardians of the Galaxy, Daredevil, etc...

Modern American comics are declining because the writing is awful! Half the writers are politically active zealots who are trashing the brands. Couple that with comic companies cheating out artists by paying them awful fees that drive them elsewhere.

theyre both basically the same artform, which is just illustrations or images with text of 1st person speech or narration. i guess you could make the distinction manga is the asian (korea and japan mostly) and smaller version of the artform, and comics is the western and bigger version of the artform. or at least something along those lines. just like westerners and asians are all the same thing at the end of the day, were all people, humans

Manga technically are comics/graphic novels.

Manga are graphic novels.

They are literally the exact same thing.

In America or japan? Please elaborate. 🤔

I get it. Manga is comics, but it's not _comic books._ Personally, I describe all types of comics as "comics." I usually describe what your talking about as, specifically, "American comics." But I can understand that's a mouthful What's your opinion on Franco-Belginian comics. (Which have their own differences from both)

Great video! Absolutely agree 👍💯

do you think that bookstores don't separate books from books? romance books and sci fi books?

A very insightful video. Keep it up

To me I always follow the sequential work. Whether it be from America or overseas! If it's got great artwork, or a captivating story, or even just something sexy or awesome, I will always enjoy it! I still refer to manga as comic books only because that's just how much I enjoy them! I still buy floppies, just as much as I buy graphic novels. Heck, all I need is issue number one of the Dark Horse Comics published original Ghost in the Shell, and I'll have my floppies of that series completed!😂 So I guess for me, it's all about what enjoyment you get out of it and who you like. Cuz I still hold Mark begley, Arthur Adams, Frank Cho and Adams Hughes on large regards like i do Oh! Great, M. Katsura, Kazushi Hagiwara, and Kentaro Meiura to name a few!❤

manga is comics. so is everything from france, poland, UK, and so on. anyone who forms their identity around "manga is not comics, it's superior" is an insecure gatekeeper. Hell, webcomics are legitimate comics.

I mean Mangas are comics in the literal definition of the word. You could argue semantics but...why tho?

To that I say. Ok 😐👍

This is a kick🍑 video!❤

Excellent point.

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Everything you ssid in this video is true and we all know it.

Correct, sir, to call manga comics is an insult because Manga had a bigger impact on the world in the past decade then any other western comic.