Portugal gets quite hot in the summer.. 35Cº and around that.. cant really blame them, the beach is 15 minutes away from the circuit.. they probably came from there XD
It happens now, on Fridays and Saturdays. Totally nonsense by the FIA. Apparently the believe accidents only happen on Sundays (Kevin Magnussen's Renault disagreed recently).
+Assoluta Late 80's and early 90's...back when F1 had awesome personalities (Senna, Prost, Mansell, Piquet, Berger....), awesome races and awesome Murray Walker. Now it's greased up idiots who have the personality of a baked potato and the races are about as predictable as Donald Trump (very predictable in other words). They don't make F1 like this anymore.
Wow, whenever I go back to the 'childhood days' of my F1 fandom, I'm always reminded of a kind of 'provincial', amateurish element of the sport. In this case, it's Murray commentating via phone line. It's weird, because it's not as if we looked at F1 in the 1980's and thought of it as unglamorous, it's always had the air of glamour around it. But yeah, certain bits and pieces are very much about a sport still in nascence. For example, it's been quite a while since tyre warmers were introduced, but I have a distinct memory of a photo in one of my F1 magazines, can't remember which year exactly but mid-80's, of a car with a mass of hot towels on the tyres.
You're correct, and I believe much of the reason for this is because an F1 car is an eternal prototype. F1 is a never ending experiment in getting the most from the least.
I'm not absolutely sure about what really happened here: either it was Mansell that f***ed it all up on his own, somehow, or the Mclaren mechanics didn't give him enough free space to approach his pit. Either way, pit stops in Estoril surely weren't on Nigel's list of favourite things, because two years later, also when leading the race, a wheel fell off right after his stop, which virtually ended his title hopes that year.
Sad day for me. Mansell was in total control until this pit stop. He missed the pit stop position because the space that he had was to narrow and he avoid hitting the mechanics. Then he reverse to his position (and for that was black flagged). Mansell did not saw the black flag, so he continue and had an accident with Senna. Senna did not knew Mansell had a black flag either.
+Heksu99 thatmk you. I mean have you seen their shorts they only go down to mid thigh. Most men today would be embarrassed to wear those. But that was the style of the 80s.
At the 8 second mark, Murray states 'Senna is not out', which confused me for years, having only watched the BBC Highlights aged 8 (can't remember if they showed it live in the UK). This comment made sense watching the live version years later, as a few laps previously Piquet and Caffi collided and I believe Murray thought the Dallara was a Mclaren in the low afternoon sun, before realising his mistake a few laps later🙂
I'm sure it was and I can only imagine, which is hard to do. I love present era Formula One, but the old days were so much different and almost all the footage is exciting to watch.
Since it's not an automatic DQ, they sometimes took their chances. Piquet did the same in Monaco. It's up to the marshals to call it.. so I guess it's worth to try. What really stinks though is that he took out Ayrton in the process. And he claimed to be the true gentleman of racing. Right..
Haha.. Yeah, "in the good ol' days" - when there were no pit-lane speed limits and cars could rip down there at 200mph (if they were capable)! ..Not all rule changes are for the worse! ;o))
Well as you propably can quess, the safety regulations, especially the safety of the pit crew wasnt really considered to be an issue back then....so no one was wearing protective gear, no helmets, nothing...these times I dont think its even allowed for camera men to work on pitlane, atlest without an helmet when the race is on, but I could be wrong.
Yes Mansell did take out Senna. I've been watching Formula one since 1985, and I saw that race live. Review the 1989 FIA review VHS, 1989 AutoCourse, or check out why Senna retired from the 1989 race in Portugal.
@@puketai '..should have faced attempted murder charges, or something like that....' - 😂Wow! That's a bit OTT, in my opinion! What part of it was 'covered up'?? The incident was plain for everyone to see! Maybe you mean something other than 'covered up'?
@PippinRally Yep, they can. Although the reverse gear is incredibly small, and a driver must be careful to keep the revs low or else he'll cause some serious damage. Supposedly drivers are discouraged from using the reverse gear and you'll see most of them do a burnout to spin around as it's quicker, anyway. This year at Monaco you saw a few cars reversing out of run-off areas during the practice sessions.
No, the mechanics pushing the car back into the correct position is the procedure for when a driver overshoots his pit box. The regulations say that you cannot use a reverse gear while in the pit lane, hence the black flag.
no they don't do refuelling anymore, but they still have to wear protective gear and helmets, even though from 2013 on cars will only be allowed to use the pitlane in the electric-motor-mode (!).
There was no refuelling back then, it was not required a fire suits. Since 1994, only five years later, the pit crew is like today, with all the equipment for the safety.
@BlackBlueMen it doesn't matter. anyone who has been on track knows the rule that you follow the direction of the track. yeah it sucks people were in his way but that's racing
I cant recall what year they banned shifting into reverse in the pit lane. These days you cannot back up in the pit lane, the team can push you back if you havent passed the pit exit line but otherwise no going backward. Watching Mansell do it there is now wonder it was outlawed, that sure looked like an accident ready to happen.
Technically he did, but it was still a Toro Rosso rather then an actual Minardi, plus to me too many changes took place between Toro Rosso and Minardi for them to be truly considered the same team IMO.
@zabraoota He actually did not lead a race, he won friday qualifing at the French GP 2003, when he was the only one with his teammate to use dry tyres on fast drying track
No, but if one saw me the game would be up, and it's the same for the black flag. If say for instance you reverse in the pits you won't get away with it, so you might as well stop the car and retire
+reptongeek It's up to the race marshal to action it. Sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't so I would also have raced until the official ruling came.
Yes but if it is a red light the driver concerned will get disqualified, it's a matter of when rather than if. So in that instance, if I was a team manager and I saw on the monitors that one of my drivers had committed that offence, I would retire the car immediately
doesnt the black flag mean hes disqualified or am i missing something. example why does his pit crew work on him etc then he leaves like hes back to the race? wtfz?
I assume for safety reasons. He should have gone out and come in on the next lap instead. You can't have guys reversing around in the pit since it would be total chaos.
Mansell was so stupid sometimes that he didn't stop at his pitlane, received a black flag and took Senna out of race forced him to make a miracle to win that championship... Something that never happened because Prost brought Senna out at Japan...
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