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The police did. They talk about it in the book Helter Skelter. They found spots of blood on the glove compartment but not enough to determine if it was human or animal

@@nicw3251that seems so crazy...seems it would be everywhere!

Abigail's Firebird was kept by her parents in the same condition as the last time she drove it.. It's now someplace in GA. Sharon's Camaro was a rental and was returned to the rental company.

John Kiernan Do you know what town it’s in there?

the feature though is the two tone, 1958 Ford Fairlane coupe.

Same here... I can't imagine Steven Parents family wanting their car back

Seems like I read that Sebring's car went back to his family and was eventually totaled. Steve Parent's Rambler (?) is a great question.

i get the same thing most people are not into history or art

Most people are so consumed by their own issues, they don't have time or even take time to keep up with current events. Let alone serious history. I talk to people daily that current events go over their head....so it doesn't surprise me the reaction you had from others! Most people don't even know anything about WW2, the Kennedy assassination, Ronald Regan getting shot, John Lennon's death. The list goes on and on. I talked to a gentleman the other day that said quote "Biden needs to get off his ass and get our troops out of Ukraine!" I just stared, I thought to myself....shut up! Your so ignorant about the world around you, go live in Russia! Ugh! Also I ran into someone who didn't know who Lisa Marie Presley was??? Huh, I don't get it!

The El Coyote thing was just a rumor, and Scott Michaels does a deep dive into that in one of his videos. The rumor that Sharon Tate & friends had dinner at El Coyote that evening has been disputed. All of the El Coyote employees, waitstaff, and customers who were there that evening say they didn't see Sharon Tate & friends there that evening.

Whoa insightful comment! I also wondered abt that myself for a long time!

If it was outside my house at night, I'd get inside and go drive it around. WWJD ✝

I'd rather be armed.

so wat

@Shadow Banned u r without a doubt, an asshole ,i have no room watta fuck can of prick r u

I find it fascinating that you drove the same car that Manson and his followers used!! How did this car drive? In the Tarantino film, they portrayed this car as a piece of crap. Loud, smoke coming out of it, etc... I’m thinking, how are you supposed to kill all of these people without drawing attention to yourself?

People always seem so surprised at how the 5 people at Cielo could be so overpowered by the 2 women killers but no one talks about how Watson helped each of them when they were screaming for help subduing their victims. I wish Watson would get more public hate or at least as much as the women get.

@@swannie54 tex was the leader in the crime because its more shocking that young girls would even be there

I'd always read that about Walt Disney living in 3301 but I later found out it's an urban myth and he definitely didn't. If you watch this guys brilliant 'Manson site tour' RU-vid video he goes to Waverly drive(and everywhere of importance) and he explains how the myth came about better than I can.

@@rexterrocks Why would Disney have a house so far away from his studios?

@@mexicanspec He wouldn't. The most important thing is that it was actually built by the victims, Leno Labianca, father. WD could never have owned it.

Did they use this in Once upon a Time?

@@mexicanspec He didn't. He spent most of his time on Disney property in an apartment!

All great questions! I'm curious too!

😄👍 .. Good One!

Charlie don’t drive, maaaan!

Good one. He was only 5'2" and walked with a hunch mostly. I had to use the payphone at Spahn for my calls in 1969. I lived about a 10 minute walk away. I was a street wise 19 yr old Boston kid. I thought he was a rich trust fund hippy. I know Sandy Good got a $400 monthly allowance . I gave her rides in my 1957 Buick

@@johanoradovis3921 The sources I’ve seen (charlesmanson.com e.g.) say Sandra was getting *$2000 a month* from a trust fund her father had left her. _And that’s in 1968-69 dollars!_ It’s said that was the “Family’s” main source of income, though some might argue-perhaps correctly-that they earned more from drug deals and sales of stolen goods.

@@johanoradovis3921 5'6 according to him.

... it would be a 1980's Chrysler.

It would scream 😢

This is the same thing as every idiot that buys a hears puts a skeleton or a skull in it. One has nothing to do with the other.

It's just a little head!

I read the same thing…

I believe it was a high end Victoria model.

Yes, I have always read in several books that the Ford's back seat was removed so the girls could put in large boxes from their garbage runs.

It’s also a hardtop model

If the owner is has already "Made Bank" then it will just sit in His garage until He dies and it gets auctioned off again....cheers

Police found a Colorado title by Spring 1970. I believe he drove the car to California about a year prior. The plates came from another SpahnMovie Ranch Ford Fairlane.

Cars aren't evil, people are. They just have notorious reputations!

Agree. Don’t understand people who shoot vertical. Your vision IS NOT vertical.

I totally agree, you can't see the specific parts of the car from a vertical angle!

Funny how you don't.

@@TheJpep2424 explain how it could???🤔🤔🤔

@@TheJpep2424funny how you do. It’s part of history whether it’s good, bad or a tragedy. The car is not evil. Common sense dude.

@Fuzzy Butkus Bugliosi was full of S**t. He helped perpetrate a lot of myths and untruths about Manson that people _still_ believe today.

Physical evidence and lots of corroborating testimony say they got the killers. The motivations, coming from drug addled hippies and a conman could be all over the map, like Bobby Beausoleil didn't kill Hinman because look at these similar killings. Or Roman and Voytek were dealing drugs, which it appears they were according to FBI documents, or Melcher had to be sent a message, even though he no longer lived at Cielo. Hell, Charlie could've wanted to BF Mark Lindsay from Paul Revere and the Raiders, or go on a date with Candace Bergen, Melcher's GF, or any other kooky theory. Facts is, Charlie was a career criminal conman with superior manipulation skills, honed on the inside, and started in McMechen, W. Va. It was a sign of the times that the youth were looking to be led, and these 2 dozen or so followers embraced the commune lifestyle, and then did as they were directed. Hell, half the country today believes anything they are told by the MSM, Democrats, and other progressives in schools and colleges who love Marx, Castro, Mao, Stalin, Che', etc. If people don't believe in and embrace individual rights, then they're ripe for the picking... .....change my mind.

Was this car used in the movie once upon a time ?

@@TexWatson-sh8vf No, it wasn't. It was talked about, but then thought to be too creepy by QT and others, so they got another vehicle to replace it. People today weren't going to know the difference.

@@pauljohnson9445 Look at the Drumpf sheeple

Not sure, did Scott Michaels buy it? I KNOW he bought Jane Mansfields car.

Exactly!

It definitely looks like the owner who has this car now added that

Sara Swanson - Not as glamorous as a bunch of brainwashed young women, maybe. Meanwhile he was the main killer. Still in prison, he has a website. He's a born again christian.

He must sometimes think back to those days in 1969. Are does he blank them out ? I suppose religion has helped him deal with these memories.

Charles Tex Watson has always been talked about !!

He's best forgotten, rotting in prison. No matter how he portrays himself now, he's a psychopath !

@@ahill4642 that's what he wants you to think! He's a psychopath. They can be charming on the outside, but in there is still a guy that killed at least 7 people. There's no such thing as being born again....he is what he is and always will be.

Ockie Ditchbank Do we know where the car is now?

Garbage runs

They would remove the seat for dumpster diving for food

I am not sure how old you are, but a 10 years old car back then was pretty worn out, especially one that was in a situation like this one was.

@@mexicanspec I’m guessing that NONE of the vehicles at Spahn Ranch aged all that well.

@@ahcapella Charles Watson mentioned in his book that the ’59 Galaxie was the only vehicle running at that time except for the dune buggies. All of the rest of the vehicles scattered around the ranch that were impounded were merely rusted out hulks.

@@angelapritula9516 Yeah, I remember Windy Bucklee had one of the few running vehicles, which she’d loaned to Bill Vance on a few occasions, only to be stopped by police who informed her that _someone_ had been using the truck to rob gas stations and such. (She was able to prove she’d been working at Spahn at those times.) After she got the keys back from Vance, Manson went to her house, _demanded_ she return the keys, and smacked her across the face when she refused, knocking her across the room. As she fumbled for her pistol-she couldn’t get the safety off-Manson successfully fled the premises. Crazy times!

The California sun is brutal on interiors. It's really in decent shape for sitting out so long. It wasn't kept in a climate controlled garage.

asshole

Manson was a fool so why like the creep?

AldoSchmedack Manson groupie

There not evil, just notorious!

Erm... mail? whatttt? Please reach out if you are looking for a new home for things. I would love to have them in my museum when it reopens. We are also very supportive of Justice for Homicide Victims. scott@dearlydepartedtours.com - I enjoyed reading this.

So very sad , the car that was used to drive to the two nights of murder on the 8th&9th of august 1969😢

Steven Parent went to my high school (11 years before I attended there). I would imagine his parents had that car returned to them.

Thank you so much. Truly. Your message made me feel like a million bucks. It's nice to know these are being appreciated.

These vids are fantastic and findadeath.com is just as addictive!

I doubt somebody like Manson would have gaudy white walls on the car at the time. Even back then they were not cheap. Aren't there any period pictures of this car?

@@mexicanspec i love white walls but you are probably right. i dont know but im going to find out.

They would have just stolen another, they were out of their heads on drugs that night.

I've read so much about these murders over the years and I believe that her Camaro was a rental, so back it went to the rental company--I assume.

paul leonide oh yeah...

Or Jay Sebring's black Porsche.

Abigail Folger didn't have a Camaro. Sharon did. It was a rental and went back to the dealership. Abigail had a Firebird.

Good question. No, it isn't. The original was GYY 435 but the plates on it are 'California historical vehicle' ones. It's so it can be driven to exhibitions and shows.

@@rexterrocks I hope the originals stayed with the car.

Jeff Harper it’s owned by a private collector in LA. Hoping he will let us have a viewing at the museum

I'd love for that to happen. It would be a centerpiece for you.

@@scottmichaels2860 Did you get anything from the Sharon Tate auction?? I was able to win her coffee grinder and tea strainer. I'm very excited to get it. =)

josiah currier the one in the film is an almost perfect copy of this one. Tarantino recreated it

I saw. Even the patina is down to a T. The men is dedicated to the craft to say the least. I got asked out, do you pick up any weird “vibes” whenever you’re in this car?

I saw. Even the patina is down to a T. The men is dedicated to the craft to say the least. I got asked out, do you pick up any weird “vibes” whenever you’re in this car

SweetPeach Bellini I'm sure his family owns that car!

rdd ss More than likely they do. Just hoping that Zak Bagans doesn't get his hands on it

SweetPeach Bellini for the right $$$ you never know !

If it could talk it would have PTSD.

Ockie Ditchbank thank you

Indeed

At the time of the killings the Galaxie was owned by ranch hand John Swartz. In a raid of Spahn Ranch August 16, 1969, 19 vehicles were confiscated. One of them was a 1959 Ford Galaxie. All of the vehicles were impounded by Howard Sommers Towing in Canoga Park, California. The “hold” placed on the Galaxie lasted through the trial which concluded in 1971. until 1973 that Sommers through a lien sale acquired a title to the car. He essentially sold it to himself. Soon after he tried to sell it through the Van Nuys News want ads but found no takers. By 1975 Sommers again tried to sell it. This time it appreared at a classic car auction in Orange County, California. The highest bid was a “no sale” at $3,000. Sommers kept the car until it was sold in the mid-2000s. The buyer is the current owner.

@@TarheelTad64 thank you for the details! Very informative!

What happen to your website.

For real michaels backporch

REMMY MAFIA Abigail Folgers - krenwinkle did that . Tex May have stabbed her again but it was after she was dead .

REMMY MAFIA Krenwinkle, Watson and Van Houten were left at the LaBianca’s. Atkins went with Charlie and Kasabian. Charlie wanted Kasabian to kill someone she knew but she purposefully went to the wrong house to spare the victim.

Your mistaken about the second night. It was Tex watson Patricia Krenwinkle and Leslie van Houten who went to the Labiancas house. And Tex Watson killed both. Patricia Krenwinkle and Leslie Van Houten tried to hold Rosemary down but she fought so hard that Leslie gave up and ran out of the room. Patricia called out to Tex to help her and he had just finished stabbing Leno in the living room. He then stabbed Rosemary to death. Patricia then went into the living room and carved WAR in Lenos stomach then stabbed him with a fork. Tex then found Leslie and made her stab Rosemary About 15 to 17 times. But she was already dead. That's what happened.

OJ Simpson

@@doglips1958 Charlie-even though he got two assists with tying up the La Bianca's.

It was replicated from this one. Exactly. They needed to affix cameras etc.

Scott Michaels Good point; forgot how camera placement can require door, window, trunk removal etc.

Definite paper trail and physical ID.