I'm not sure how long that coil cable is going to last on that Manticore . Great video as usual Carter. We're lucky to have you. Just can't unsee that cable now lol.
@@pigeonbloodruby5330 The coil cable is wrapped in reverse of proper installation. If you look, you can see the cable is wrapped tightly around the coil bolt and then passes under the shaft to enter the strain relief creating terrible pressure on the cable. The cable sho I ld be wrapped the other direction on the shaft so it comes off the top of the shaft into the strain relief and allowing the shaft to fold all the way down on the coil without pinching the cable while transporting.
So you're referring to a set up error by the user. After a lot of start up issues right off the bat with this Manticore I think you just gave those Manticore owners/users a brief coronary lol I had to go back and look at it being I didn't catch it when I first watched the video. It sure doesn't look like what we traditionally see that's for sure. But after thinking about the coil from moving all the way in up to under the shaft to all the way out over the top of the shaft it doesn't look like it will move much but I can see where it moves near the connection might be concerning. The only reason I can think of him wrapping it like that is possibly from being concerned about him getting it snagged scrubbing underbrush? That's the only thing I could guess why he wrapped it like this. Is does sit flat out of the way but it sure looks like if he flipped the coil all the way up it's gonna tug at that connection which probably shouldn't be bent like that. I guarantee if he does kills it Minelab will void the warranty if they find out it's wrapped this way. IDK I don't think I would personally risk wrapping it like that because if something falls on it during transport it could really stress it bad over the coil. Good eye catching that though
@@itselectric3906 Thanks for the clarification. Yeah I'm super careful not to put a side load force on the strain relief. Even when I flip the coil over during testing, I make sure that the coil strain relief is not touching anything. I would like to orientate the coil cable perpendicular to the coil. I hope to reduce the coil from picking up interference from the cable. Not sure if that's an issue. Ferrite chokes aren't needed on modern detectors, am I being pedantic? Not sure how to do it without a 3D printed clip? I'm with you, I can't unsee it now. It's going to be ripped out at some point in the future or slowly degrade performance on it's way failure. 🤓
The owner of the company suggest using the detector in mixed mode in that red dirt. While you may lose the discriminate tone around seven or eight inches, the all metal tone will punch down extremely deep.
I would encourage you to get ahold of a Tarsacci. It is a different animal and will surprise you with how it can perform in tough environments where more traditional VLFs struggle.
I have done the same test with my D1 and D2 with small silver coins in iron infested soil in England and I struggle to get a signal at depth below 4 inches.
Great Video but left me with one question, What was the Iron Bias Setting set at on the NOX 900? and what were your upper and lower limits on the Manticore also? Thanks for sharing!!!!!
We were using the nox 800, not the 900. Iron bias at 6 it was hard to hear anything so we had to keep it at 4. Regarding the Manticore, I'll contact Jimmy and ask him to comment here
@@jimzilladetecting It would be interesting to see a test with the manticore and 900 if you have one. With the Manticore recovery set at 2 and the Upper limits set to 4 or 5 and the lower limits set to 4 which really helps in the unmasking of targets in iron and the 900 with its FE set to 0.
No complaints on the Tarsacci but I'm relatively new to it. Two of the machines that are in the video that could not hear the bullet under The rock are the Equinox 800 and the Legend.
Pulse inductance circuitry in general is made for that type of environment. You will also get more depth but the only trade-off is your digging everything
The Tarsacci MDT 8000 uses a Hybrid Circuit with a Patented Adjustable Salinity Balance, separate of the Ground Balance. By Hybrid; a combination of BOTH Pulse Domain and Frequency Domain. It is a bit more complicated than that which Dimitar will NOT go into. Tarsacci does have a couple of major advantages as like a PI, the Ground Strength Mineralization from Low to Extreme will not diminish the Target like todays XPs, Minelab and Nokta Models are more vulnerable. Your to be complimented on this Video which clearly shows how the higher the Minerals (More Ground Signal) the more the desirable Non-Ferrous Target is affected. I know that Detector Comparisons New York Guy is New to this unique Detector, and I would like to have seen him unleash the true performance of this incredible Detector by activating the Salinity Balance. By the way, I shared your video with John the Calabash Digger who is Good ol Boy in NC. Greg Moscini, Trans Bay Metal Detectors, a Multi-Line Detector Dealer since 1983. Questions... au4greg@sbcglobal.net or 650-346-2848.
would be interesting to see your tdi pro after you ground balanced the rock out if it would perform on that soil.on my very minerilized beach,red reef rocks here in oz, my pro is better than the ctx or the manticore,cheers.
You are talking apples and oranges. The TDI-Pro is a pulse machine. The whole purpose of this test to see if a discriminating VLF metal detector can discriminate in heavy mineralized conditions. I use a TDI Pro and it's an excellent machine but cannot discriminate
@@DetectorComparisons The Tarsacci MDT 8000 uses a Hybrid Circuit with a Patented Adjustable Salinity Balance, separate of the Ground Balance. By Hybrid; a combination of BOTH Pulse Domain and Frequency Domain. It is a bit more complicated than that which Dimitar will NOT go into. TDI Pulse Scan does not have a conventional VLF Discriminator but what it does have is an adjustable Pulse Timing Rate where you can identify most Ferrous (Iron) Signals from their Non-Ferrous more desirable targets. Tarsacci does have a couple of major advantages as like a PI, the Ground Strength Mineralization from Low to Extreme will not diminish the Target like todays XPs, Minelab and Nokta Models are more vulnerable. Your to be complimented on this Video which clearly shows how the higher the Minerals (More Ground Signal) the more the desirable Non-Ferrous Target is affected. I know that Detector Comparisons New York Guy is New to this unique Detector, and I would like to have seen him unleash the true performance of this incredible Detector by activating the Salinity Balance. By the way, I shared your video with John the Calabash Digger who is Good ol Boy in NC. Greg Moscini, Trans Bay Metal Detectors, a Multi-Line Detector Dealer since 1983. Questions... au4greg@sbcglobal.net or 650-346-2848.
Yes, any pulse machine will see the bullet under the rock easily. As a matter of fact any vlf machine will be able to see the bullet underneath the Rock in all metal. The point of this video is to get a discriminating machine to be able to knock out iron and still hear a good Target underneath an Iron Rock.
@@DetectorComparisons I totally agree with you but There are many targets that are more than 4 inches below the surface that a pulse induction machine would see and a discriminating machine would not see.
That is true anything that repeats you want to dig even if it's a choppy signal but you do want to be able to tune your machine in to get it to respond as good as possible. That's what we were doing here.
I saw another video and it unmasks foil just as well. I think it's made in California. A dealer told me it was very complicated to learn. Not popular for some reason.
The tarsacci is a grate machine. I owned one for a couple of years, Unfortunately they go wrong quite often. And the manufacturer is unwilling to increase the warranty period which is incredibly short at only 1.5 years I'd buy one again at the drop off a hat if owner of tarsacci took responsibility of the reliability of the electrics I've seen screens with lines, mine ground balance circuitry when hey wire, I know off one other doing the same Shame as it does work well when it's working
I have had mine 3 years now and Dimitar is the most responsive manufacturer out there. He will always answer his phone and always help. I give him 2 thumbs up.
@@itselectric3906 I was one off the first people to order one, I've been following that tarsacci from before it's launch date. I was a member of the tarsacci forum when Aaron run the site, he was also a tarsacci dealer I can assure you, I no off quite a few machines going wrong. One and a half years warranty it not really excusable Why wouldn't you offer a longer warranty if you had total faith in your product
Aaron came on board about one year after the MDT was first offered for sale. I bought rhe 9th machine out the door. Tom Dankowski was the first and only dealer other than Dimitar to offer the machine for the first time. As a matter of fact one of the first machines went to a well known water hunter in Florida. Dew. He still is using the machine to this day.
