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Marble size sorting machine 

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There's not much of a market for high tolerance marbles, so marble size inconsistency is an actual problem for some projects. But aside from using a gravity-fed size sorter to organize your collection, this project is also a simple way to demonstrate some probability distributions! Yay!
No, seriously: the Bell curve shows up everywhere- the average size of a raindrop, how many kittens your cat is likely to have, the number of blades o' grass in a lawn, or the approximate amount of rainbows & elephants found in a country- anything that has more than one example can be thought of as a distribution. This type of statistical thinking is not easy for us, because it is often counterintuitive, but it is one of the most useful tools we have to help us make sense of a confusing world. Mathematics lets us see clearly by giving us what we need to make unbiased predictions; it is something that we can actually trust, even when our hearts or eyes may mislead us.
Construction notes:
The collection trays were not the best way to do this. I improvised them from scrap. I might recommend higher-backed boxes that have a bit more width. If there were 6 compartments instead of 8, I think it might be easier to use, because it wouldn't have such a narrow range per cell. Such a small width is sometimes difficult to calibrate. Just think of mine as a proof of concept, and improve on it. It's hard to justify making more than one of these, when this one works to solve the problem just fine.
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"Silver Flame" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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@thomaskaldahl196
@thomaskaldahl196 6 лет назад
its really satisfying how the marbles appear to slow down before they drop, as if each marble has a final destination in mind and slows down in anticipation for its arrival in its new home
@bigabong7119
@bigabong7119 6 лет назад
Thomas Kaldahl dude. This thing needs more likes.
@earthbjornnahkaimurrao9542
@earthbjornnahkaimurrao9542 6 лет назад
I think it is neat that the marbles automatically slow down right before falling through.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
No they don't! They're just following a curved path. Along and then down, which is longer. They are actually speeding up- watch the spin. Mindblow.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 6 лет назад
They still slow down with regards to horizontal movement, though, though they do not slow down entirely. ;P
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
I guess you're right; they slow down rapidly with respect to that. In fact, they stop making horizontal progress entirely once they hit the bin.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 6 лет назад
Haha. I was referring to the frame of reference of them on the sorting slide, as Earthbjorn stated, but that's true as well.
@Keldor314
@Keldor314 6 лет назад
To see what's happening here, think of the part of the marble in contact with the tracks. It will roll on circles near the end of each side of the marble, right over the point of contact. As the bars move further apart, the circles shrink, since they get closer and closer to the ends of the marble, until finally they shrink away to nothing and the marble falls through. I diagram would be useful here, but I don't have one :-P Anyway, the smaller the circles of rolling contact get, the faster the marble must spin to move at the same speed, just like a small wheel has to spin more than a big wheel to cover the same ground. Since friction is keeping the marble from slipping as it goes down the track, it has to spin faster and faster. At the end, right as the circle shrinks to nothing, the marble would have to spin infinitely fast, but of course it starts slipping eventually. Still, this is why the marble slows down before it falls - more and more of the momentum from rolling downhill is pulled in to angular momentum to make the marble spin faster and faster as the circle of contact shrinks away, until the marble very nearly stops right before it falls through. The higher the friction between the marble and the track, the closer it will come to stopping. To demonstrate this, it would be cool to run some rubber balls down the track ;-)
@caseykoons
@caseykoons 6 лет назад
I like it when you get mathematical. Thanks for your hard work.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Thanks for the appreciation!
@RedScaledKnight1
@RedScaledKnight1 6 лет назад
it's great to watch. he's also got great mechanical advice ;)
@lank_asif
@lank_asif 6 лет назад
pocket83 When you adjust the bars to further sort the selected "average sized marbles" you should take one of the smallest outlying marbles and set the top of the sorting device to the width of that marble. Now you'll be sorting the marbles more finely over the entire length of the device and should more closely recreate the theoretical curve. As it stands, the sorting only begins at about a quarter of the way down and so your results will be less accurate. This is just my suggestion. as I love the concept and your content is fantastic.
@AndreaArzensek
@AndreaArzensek 6 лет назад
I just watched How it's made on Tinned Pineapple and guess which method they use to sort the pineapples to sizes :) I instantly remembered your video! Cheers!
@Jer_Schmidt
@Jer_Schmidt 6 лет назад
The way they brake smoothly to a (near) stop before dropping is so satisfying :) Really cool device!
@BrebtaGamesSK
@BrebtaGamesSK 6 лет назад
You should put a funel on the start where you can just put many marbles at once
@deeredmond8285
@deeredmond8285 6 лет назад
Being creative and logical is a curse, but watching you use both sides of your brain at the same time... WONDERFUL (I don't feel so alone now) I bet you drive other people crazy too, so much more to say but jumbles up... Thanks for the inspiration and a fresh breath of air
@earthbjornnahkaimurrao9542
@earthbjornnahkaimurrao9542 6 лет назад
I'd like to see the same thing but with smaller bins to get finer resolution on sorting and make a better distribution "graph".
@danno1111
@danno1111 6 лет назад
Could very well be that the distribution isn't normal, depends entirely on the method that the marbles are made. If they rolled the molten glass between two steel rollers to form the sphere, there's a set upper boundary to the size, and the distribution would fall off from there in the smaller sizes, depending on the temperature of the glass or something else. Not to say that that's how they do it or that there isn't a normal distribution, just that that's a possibility.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Good point. Similarly, when I adjusted the lower part of the device (and not the top), I only extended the variance of the new set in one direction, larger; there was, in this case, also a boundary... wait... technically, that's not right- since the parallel bars had a new, completely different slope after the adjustment. Who knows? Though provoking stuff, isn't it?
@MrAsylumEscapee
@MrAsylumEscapee 6 лет назад
Think you are correct that you only extend the variance in one direction: by adjusting the lower part of the device only, you apply a linear transformation to the set, with width at the very bottom changing by X, and width at the very top not changing at all. This would skew the entire distribution to the left, since all marbles will fall off later. The variance will increase, but strictly in one direction. (Since marbles cannon physically fall off sooner).
@PAFrogBoy
@PAFrogBoy 6 лет назад
The first year engineering class at my university assigns a semester-long group project, where we have to design a marble sorter and barcode reader out of a Lego Mindstorms kit, which has some motors, and various types of sensors such as touch or light/color sensors, and program it with LabVIEW. The finished product should be able to read a barcode containing a prescription of certain size/color marbles to collect, and fill out the dosage from a pool of about 75 marbles. It was a very challenging project and this video made me think back to it and how crappy our design was
@UPWNU
@UPWNU 6 лет назад
Awesome approach to something that was nothing but laborious to learn in my AP Statistics class in high school. It's always a great pleasure when you do maths in your videos. :)
@TimothyHall13
@TimothyHall13 6 лет назад
I really like this. We human beings do have a hard time adjusting to statistical concepts and this does a great job of illustrating distributions. I imagine if that you would have set the rails by choosing the largest of the large group and the smallest of the small group you might have ended up with an even more normal looking distribution? Thanks Pocket!
@jordanengdahl4418
@jordanengdahl4418 6 лет назад
Perhaps it is beyond the scope of your expertise, but a video on carburetors would be very interesting. Such a delightful little mechanism in a small, inexpensive and mechanical package.
@mattjohnston2
@mattjohnston2 6 лет назад
Hey, it's good to see a vid! It's funny...I have absolutely no intention of making a marble sorter. No need, no desire. But I thoroughly enjoyed the video! It's almost like sitting down with a friend and having a conversation about one of HIS interests. I don't have to have any "take away" from a conversation like that to enjoy it. So...thanks! I also appreciate the metric conversion ;)
@steveschierholz5272
@steveschierholz5272 4 года назад
You did a good job. The way you sorted the marbles by color was amazing. So they got sorted twice.
@feygilo8601
@feygilo8601 6 лет назад
So glad your back!
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 6 лет назад
You must have presorted the marbles in the beginning of the video. Right? It really had me thinking. There are other possibilities that would cause the same separation to occur, but I would assume them to be more unlikely.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Yep.
@zachell1991
@zachell1991 6 лет назад
I was wondering the same thing.
@lance00000000000000
@lance00000000000000 6 лет назад
zachell1991 same
@dmoore3722
@dmoore3722 6 лет назад
Your videos are so inspirational and thought-provoking, thanks for sharing!
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Thanks for letting me know that you like it!
@Dapstart
@Dapstart 6 лет назад
This is the quality content I love seeing from you. Brilliant ideas as always :D
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 6 лет назад
I think a sorting system like this would be a really cool feature on a very large marble machine. You could have several separate tracks which each use a single color of marble, then they all merge to go through the last section together, and then as they are lifted back to the beginning of the course, have an array of these sorting them back out so that they continue to go down the course with the same color marbles again and again.
@AndreaArzensek
@AndreaArzensek 6 лет назад
I could watch that marble sorting all day long, simple - yet fascinating!
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Ha! I know what you mean. I found myself staring at it for a long time. That's why I left the opening footage so long.
@GretgorPooper
@GretgorPooper 6 лет назад
There's something so satisfying about the sound of marbles falling on wood.
@nickm5911
@nickm5911 6 лет назад
Another amazing video! Awesome job!
@ComplexVariables
@ComplexVariables 6 лет назад
What a wonderful demonstration for a statistical reasoning class!! Will keep you updated if I can find a makerspace student to make one and then try it in class.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Great. I'm also glad that you 'get' the big picture that it's a useful metaphor; I've received some criticism from statistics nerds over it not producing a _true_ Gaussian distribution. As if I could be expected to use an infinite number of compartments. I think this would be great for discussion in a class.
@ComplexVariables
@ComplexVariables 6 лет назад
What in RL is actually a normal distribution?? I totally got that you were just pointing out a very typical distributional shape. I suspect marble makers have an idea of a "good" theoretical distribution model considering the manufacturing process (some kind of Gamma distribution perhaps ) Anyway, I am amazed about the sensitivity the results are to the deflection the marbles placed on the steel rods, a nice example of noise reduction.
@billyvillacis9975
@billyvillacis9975 6 лет назад
This will prove invaluable in my upcoming marble line-breeding experiment!
@randyt
@randyt 6 лет назад
Another great video! It would be interesting to see this incorporated into a marble machine as a way to direct marbles onto different paths.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
That would be spectacular. Imagine a double helix using two different colors. It would be mesmerizing to watch it self-sort and then spiral down around itself.
@MacJohnsonFarm
@MacJohnsonFarm 8 месяцев назад
I came here looking for inspiration for a DIY machine to sort nuts by size. Fascinating watch. Thank you.
@pocket83
@pocket83 8 месяцев назад
Thanks. That's a much harder problem. The first idea to spring to mind is a rotating, vibrating drum that has thickness-based slots which would allow smaller nuts to escape. Might need some oil. Same theme as this video: over time, math gets closer and closer; eventually, all the small nuts _will_ escape! I'd be interested to hear what you come up with.
@PinBox3000
@PinBox3000 4 года назад
The reason the marbles slow down before they drop is very easy to explain: Magic.
@Mike_Hoffmann
@Mike_Hoffmann 6 лет назад
Damn! Nice unit. Now I need to find my marbles.
@Checkedbox
@Checkedbox 6 лет назад
You have the best sounds, the audio is so clear and crisp
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Thanks for saying so. I often wonder about that. Usually, if they aren't complaining, I don't worry about it.
@MrBlahChannel
@MrBlahChannel 6 лет назад
I'm glad you're back. Comfy video too
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Thanks ;)
@ian-duh
@ian-duh 6 лет назад
I'm just more impressed that it's the same colors in the same categories at first.
@misoman
@misoman 6 лет назад
I could watch those marbles all day. I hope we're getting a pocket squared video on this later, wink wink
@hiimapop7755
@hiimapop7755 6 лет назад
Ayy Its been a while! Good to see you upload a new video again!
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Thanks! I'm also working on a build video, so expect some more soon ;)
@Newmachinist
@Newmachinist 6 лет назад
Thanks for the great videos - really interesting and educational. Thanks Rod
@jwrm22
@jwrm22 6 лет назад
Sorting marbles can be a start of a analog computer. Each marble representing an instruction. Ran trough the 'computer' one at the time.
@jin3784
@jin3784 6 лет назад
In an earlier video, you stated you wouldn't be a good teacher in a classroom because you get to edit out your mistakes, but this video demonstrates that you could be a very helpful *online* teacher! Y'know, maybe something along the lines of Khan Academy, or a Pearson example video.
@mversantvoort
@mversantvoort 6 лет назад
Simple yet very cool!
@randallmcclain6368
@randallmcclain6368 3 года назад
Outstanding!!
@Lemongrasspicker
@Lemongrasspicker 6 лет назад
That is clever, nice work sir!
@genghiskhan6688
@genghiskhan6688 6 лет назад
It is so satisfying to watch those marbles rolling ...plz post a video of just that
@iCONAN1
@iCONAN1 6 лет назад
That’s neat! 😃
@azimovwatts6425
@azimovwatts6425 6 лет назад
for some reason this reminds me of the "wave resonance" produced in the single particle double slit experiments.
@Alphabetac
@Alphabetac 5 лет назад
"okay okay i dont want to bore you..." I literally came here to listen to the sound of the marbles being sorted
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 6 лет назад
I know this may sound weird, but... could you do a video of you just sorting all your marbles using this machine? The tink of the marble on metal, the slight sound as it rolls, the tap of it hitting the wood then another marble, it's all just so soothing.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
It's not that weird! There's lots of videos like that out there.
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 6 лет назад
I meant weird in the context of asking you specifically to do it, but yeah, that's actually exactly why I asked.
@custersword7746
@custersword7746 6 лет назад
Very cool machine for sorting and statistics.
@saartal4524
@saartal4524 6 лет назад
Nice design. Another option (crude) is using sifts of various sizes - which I have made Thanks for sharing
@homer2336
@homer2336 6 лет назад
Wish I could use this concept to sort laundry.
@alfredneumann4692
@alfredneumann4692 6 лет назад
In the Gauss-Distribution modell all marbles have the same diameter and go all through the same opening. Then they fall down through a bunch of nails (or similar). I have build this years ago for a demonstration in an institut in a University in Germany. The plan was in a mathematicsbook. Not really, but i used the schematic and build a 1m (about 3 feet?) model. Was a nice project with many try and error. Cheerio from Germany
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
That sounds like the original Pachinko machines. It can be used for gambling. In that case, you can have jackpots on the tail-ends of the curve, and the 'house' still wins. Note: I don't gamble. Ever.
@MrUltramove
@MrUltramove 6 лет назад
Semi automatic loading mechanism would be great for this, so you can let each marble sort without bumping into each other but increase sorting speed for big sets of marbles. Just some loading chamber, channel to line marbles and pushing leaver with rubber band to push it back to lock position. Hope you dont mind this input, love your idea, your loyal fan.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
That would be cool. It would also be fun. I wanted to make it as simple as possible though.
@Keldor314
@Keldor314 6 лет назад
One thing about marbles is that they're generally not very perfect spheres. It would be interesting to take all the marbles that fall into one bin and run them through the sorter, unaltered, again, to see if they still land in the same bin. Incidentally, when they sell ball bearings, they have grades according to how perfectly spherical they are. Found this out when I needed to get 3/8th inch balls for a marble machine.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Repeated trials *will* increase precision. There are certainly defects, but manufacturers are aiming at spherical in general, so they often are quite close. Still, there's a reasonable degree of quality that you will try to achieve with this gizmo, that is, a spot that rests within a certain variance. Once that sweet spot is found, the marbles that hit the same bin a few time in a row are extremely spherical; variations and anomalies will readily register as a different size occasionally. All things considered, I'm more impressed by the sphericity that marble makers have achieved than their ability to sort within a tight size tolerance- not that most kids care what size they are while they are rolling the things around on the porch.
@SethPortland
@SethPortland 6 лет назад
Thanks now I can tell my senile grandma how to get her marbles sorted.
@trentw26
@trentw26 6 лет назад
This is awesome! What possible reason could someone have for disliking the video.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
I think it's more of a case of them disliking _me._ I mean, no real human being dislikes watching pretty rolling marbles organize themselves, unless they've gone completely deranged.
@trentw26
@trentw26 6 лет назад
Well as far as them being deranged, I concur. One might say, they have lost their marbles.
@MrMagicBlox
@MrMagicBlox 6 лет назад
What if you made it so that the bars were movable (within a guide of course) and you set values to the compartments on the tray. Then give players marbles and have them try to get the highest score within 3 moves. I imagine that the coordination required to move the ramp to keep the marble on the "ramp" would be challenging. The higher scores/values would be closer to the top. Play would start the marble at the bottom and move the rails to get the marble closer to them. The physics of this would make an interesting video in itself.
@HKKyoya
@HKKyoya 3 года назад
Watching the marbles get sorted is eye candy. Now what if you turned it into a display? Where the marbles get automatically re-fed into the top. I think I'd never get any work done...
@nbayoungboyrichtvgaming676
@nbayoungboyrichtvgaming676 6 лет назад
Wow nice marbels
@zacharynovkov-bloom4933
@zacharynovkov-bloom4933 6 лет назад
This is really cool, love your content! Could you try making some sort of web shooter using the two liquids 1 6 hexanediamine and sebacoyl chloride?
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
No. It smells too bad. And it burns.
@jkell42
@jkell42 6 лет назад
As I am watching, I wonder why not make a hopper?
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Simplicity.
@darfjono
@darfjono 6 лет назад
i saw some marbles push other marbles further down, is that a major problem?
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Not often. The weird ones do jam the device sometimes. But you have to expect some anomalies, deformities, and unlikely events. That's the nature of it! You can always repeat the run to get better results.
@nicholaslau3194
@nicholaslau3194 6 лет назад
Do one marble at a time. Only put the next one in once you see the previous one has fallen
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Agreed. But patience is easier said than done!
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 6 лет назад
You could add on a funnel system with a rotary paddle release mechanism at a certain tension so it only releases marbles as a steady drop rate, so no two marbles will interact on the guide, no?
@White-ul3dl
@White-ul3dl 6 лет назад
pocket83 why seperate by size when they are all sizes are different colours?
@lance00000000000000
@lance00000000000000 6 лет назад
So why dont marble making companies have this sorter? I guess it's because its not super important for most people who buy marbles but idk. Also the first run you can not find much of a slope but if you re run each section of the first run in order and add them in it would be more accurate and another better way would be to lower the decline on both the rails lower and collecting system plus lower the height of the drop then instead of a few dividers you could have alot of ridges to hold them in place with an average marbles distance between them so they are all in order basically from smallest to largest. The lessened height would just make it so the marbles wont bounce over the ridges or roll too far down the rails. Anyway very interesting video, thanks for sharing this with everyone! Edit: the second option would give a much better visualization of the average size but is passed the whole point of the size sorter as it would not be as simple to group them together because you would end up with many groups, which i guess would only be better for extremely precise projects
@markfoxwell79
@markfoxwell79 6 лет назад
Very interesting. Have you seen how ping pong balls are spherically graded? They are rolled down a wide straight ramp towards 5 collection areas - the balls that go through the centre collection area (least deviance from a straight line of release) are graded 3*, the 2 areas either side of that are 1* and the rest are ungraded balls. I think this could be easily replicated for any projects where roundness in key.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Wow, that is really clever! But what if a malformed blob came out? It would just slide down the center of the ramp ;( Note: grade -1* are probably used specially for carnival games!
@LINGLING-ep8ev
@LINGLING-ep8ev 6 лет назад
shouldn't be too hard having a funnel above the machine allowing you to dump a bunch of marbles and let it do its thing? your genius enough!
@toushevtsurpe8568
@toushevtsurpe8568 6 лет назад
it's simple BUT AWESOME!
@liriosogno6762
@liriosogno6762 6 лет назад
So cool
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 6 лет назад
I think (this is all theoretical) if you wanted to get your marbles into sizes that you actually want, and not have to adjust the rig many many times, you could use a known size to set the bars apart. Or, if you were moving from something with very precise tolerances (Ball bearings) to lower tolerance (Ebay/dollarstore marbles) you could set the bars for that known, working size. So if you were designing something around, say, pachinko balls... But they are more expensive, and heavy since they are metal. So whatever the reason, you need to switch from them to marbles. Since the metal ball bearings are mass produced and require tight tolerances to work in the game, but marbles are not, you would know what size you want (11mm). So, by putting the top of the bars 10mm apart, and the bottom 12mm apart you could get your initial and highly refined sort very quickly. You would probably have to modify the design to kick out the super large marbles on the end, as you would probably have lots of them because of the initial sort being very precise. Maybe I'm over-thinking it...
@Cumbernauld
@Cumbernauld 6 лет назад
Upload more your vids are awesome
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
I'll try to have one next week. This stuff isn't easy to make, so bear with me!
@Wordsnwood
@Wordsnwood 6 лет назад
The opening 45 seconds was OH SO SATISFYING to an OCD'ish personality. :-)
@Handsy_McGee
@Handsy_McGee 6 лет назад
Just saw an ad for "Tumblestix". You called it in that kururin video, man.
@benjardis5291
@benjardis5291 6 лет назад
Cool!
@bubblegumcat6822
@bubblegumcat6822 6 лет назад
I apologise for this comment being irrelevant to this specific video, but I remember a video you made a while ago with interesting imagery and nice cinematography, and I looked though both of your channels without a sign of it. It's a little disappointing, since I wished to see it again but I respect your choice to delete it. Your videos are great, and I'm glad that I came across you when I did.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Thanks. What was the premise of the video?
@bubblegumcat6822
@bubblegumcat6822 6 лет назад
pocket83 I don't remember things well, but I know it had multiple shots of the sky (I believe from a swing), a grasshopper/cricket in a jar and other similar things. It sounds silly, I know, but I found it very interesting and strangely soothing.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
That was last year's wildly unpopular Halloween video. It's now unlisted. Here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1hAnQ7fsSdQ.html
@AlexJohnson-un5mb
@AlexJohnson-un5mb 6 лет назад
could you build some sort of hopper to feed the marbles in? to save you having to place them on one by one.
@kosdan
@kosdan 6 лет назад
What surprises me is that the rods are straight enough that it doesn't affect the device. I wouldn't think that they would come so straight. If any rods was just the slightest bit bent or warped or changed thickness you would see the distribution be incorrectly skewed.
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
Good point. The zinc coated rods did come from the store unusually straight. However, even if they weren't, the device would still work so long as no adjustments were made between distributions. A distribution would still be in there, even if it were skewed a bit in places, so you can still find a subset of marbles that share a particular size. You just conjured the picture of me looking at a Bell curve through a glass-block window; the curve is continuous, but it would have local maxes and minimums. I want to add that a rod can also be bend-straightened to a pretty high tolerance just by sighting down it and using your eye, especially in the case of thick rods like the 5/15" ones used here. I also want to add that the device here was for sorting marbles to a reasonable standard: so while it's fun to question, speculate, and critique, it's also somewhat silly to think too far into such a novelty. lol. I struggle with that sometimes. But really, the thing does have a certain (unavoidable) amount of error. Supreme precision and accuracy would likely involve fancy optics, lasers, and other tech that is squarely out of reach for a troglodytic carpenter such as myself.
@kosdan
@kosdan 6 лет назад
Thanks for taking the time to reply and share your insights. I liked your glass-block window analogy.
@homunkoloss6782
@homunkoloss6782 6 лет назад
This reminds me of the Marble Machine (x) that wintergatan is building right now
@charliecollard6433
@charliecollard6433 6 лет назад
Neat how they slow down before dropping, ....!
@ZexMaxwell
@ZexMaxwell 6 лет назад
it needs a hopper.
@bobsuruncle6762
@bobsuruncle6762 6 лет назад
Jelle's marnle runs needs one of these
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder 6 лет назад
you are graphing the random errors introduced during manufacturing and it is pretty cool. theoretically, if there was no random error, they would all be in the same cell. also, if the difference in diameter was deliberate, the shape of the curve might be different. very interesting. i don't like your pile of sand analogy though because the shape of the sand has to do with the particle size of the grains, and gravity (and not randomness).
@pocket83
@pocket83 6 лет назад
A pile of sand _is_ a distribution. It has both a center of mass and a geometric center, which are types of averages. The forces that provide the variables for its measurable characteristics are incidental. I stand by the analogy ;) And there is no such thing as random!
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder 6 лет назад
pocket83 ok, fair enough. It's a good analogy :). Thanks for the video btw
@andrewmalaty8
@andrewmalaty8 6 лет назад
You should make a hopper or funnel so you can put all the marbles in at once.
@zaxonov
@zaxonov 6 лет назад
To avoid the bending problem while adding a lot of precision of the sorting process, I imagine a multiple pair of bars builded like the original Donkey Kong game :D However, fine tuning this sorter could be tricky I think...
@Nattethan
@Nattethan 6 лет назад
Put a cone to do alot in time.
@ihavecancerandaids2737
@ihavecancerandaids2737 6 лет назад
This man needs to become a teacher
@b5a5m5
@b5a5m5 3 года назад
I wonder what sort of tolerances can be achieved with this type of sorter. I've been playing with the idea of using this to sort airsoft bbs for use in 3d printed bearings. I imagine the precision on the initial rods is what would be the main factor in the machines sorting capability coupled with the rigidity of those rods. Maybe some long precision ground shoulder bolts if there are any long enough... Oh! Perhaps linear bearing rods would work well!
@pocket83
@pocket83 3 года назад
Look for an old printer. The rods inside are flawlessly smooth and precise. With respect to tolerance, mine uses inexpensive zinc-plated rod, and it goes way beyond my visual acuity. If you really _need_ to know a numerical value, get back to me and I'll take some measurements. Good luck.
@Ranzord95
@Ranzord95 6 лет назад
For a moment I thought it was a video from jelle's marble runs
@Jaynautic
@Jaynautic 6 лет назад
This could probably replace manual sorting labor with using electricity (if the system is refined).
@ChrisAurora
@ChrisAurora 6 лет назад
I have recently been thinking about this channel whenever @wintergatan has uploaded more videos from the building of Marble Machine X - and even more so now!
@RCWorks
@RCWorks 6 лет назад
Now you should make a auto-feeder so you don't have to load by hand.
@JASPACB750RR
@JASPACB750RR 6 лет назад
All it’s missing is a funnel/hopper at the top to be more efficient
@stanleydenning
@stanleydenning 6 лет назад
I see possibilities... A multi run marble machine. Each run for a slightly different size marble. All starting on a single run and than being redistributed by size, than combined back together again just before the lift.
@KagemandenDK
@KagemandenDK 6 лет назад
Can you make this much bigger to sort cans and tennisballs?
@Sludgepump
@Sludgepump 6 лет назад
Fun to watch the rpms go up as the bearing surfaces dia decreases.
@user-by7of1nc7k
@user-by7of1nc7k 6 лет назад
Can you make a funnel that lets marbles pass through with a window gap of 1 second?
@paulgee4336
@paulgee4336 5 лет назад
I'm surprised there is so much variance in one type of supposed same marble.
@Dman0001
@Dman0001 6 лет назад
Pocket should be a math teacher. He's also head and shoulders above bill Nye as a scientist
@kmonnier
@kmonnier 6 лет назад
Your "sink a nail with one hit" video was on PewDiePie today!!!!!
@RobertMilesAI
@RobertMilesAI 3 года назад
How much variance is there in the process? If you put the same marble through 100 times, what's the spread on where they fall through?
@pocket83
@pocket83 3 года назад
Marbles each have their own personality. The more egg-shaped ones will give a wider spread. In general, consumer marbles with a reasonably high tolerance will fall into the same cell 7 or 8 times out of ten.* This is a great question, because in projects where precision marbles are needed (yes, that's a thing for me), variance is a key consideration in the marbles that I select. My usual method for establishing a tolerance goes something like, _this set must land in cell x at least five out of six times._ Variance has everything to do with roundness. *Note that this is largely dependent on the distributor. In my experience, craft stores have the least consistent quality marbles, and, perhaps ironically, dollar stores usually have flawless gems mixed into their $1 per 100 ct 'variety' bags. Seriously--I've found like nearly optical quality marbles there in at least one case.
@RobertMilesAI
@RobertMilesAI 9 месяцев назад
Ah it makes a lot of sense that it's about roundness. I guess it might end up depending a lot on the orientation it's placed down in. Like, it might end up rolling around its major axis and seem bigger, or around its minor axis and seem smaller, or somewhere in between. But there's no easy way I can think of to control for that
@cgiverin
@cgiverin 6 лет назад
You need a funnel or something to dump the marbles in all at once
@imp3r1alx
@imp3r1alx 6 лет назад
wow.. i like how they kinda slow down for a bit before falling down.. as if they know it's their stop =D
@asmahappy6373
@asmahappy6373 6 лет назад
It's a color sorter, too.
@AishaDracoGryph
@AishaDracoGryph 6 лет назад
You should make a hopper so you can just dump a whole bag and sort them all real fast and with less effort.
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