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Marcus Rogers Denies The Trinity... AGAIN 

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In this video, we critically examine Marcus Rogers' views on the Trinity and the Council of Nicea. Marcus Rogers has gained attention for his unconventional teachings and interpretations, but how well does he really understand these foundational Christian doctrines and historical events?
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@TheLoveAgenda
@TheLoveAgenda 2 месяца назад
Nobody is going to get through to this man but God. He is unconverted.
@detox7726
@detox7726 2 месяца назад
🎯💯
@simeonyves5940
@simeonyves5940 2 месяца назад
@@OrondeB Amen, the Athanasian Creed declares him as Unsavable because of this, how big a red flag do people need against him?
@joshhigdon4951
@joshhigdon4951 2 месяца назад
​@simeonyves5940 he isn't "unsavable". If that was a thing, nobody would be. He is in damnable error, but God can still change him, as he did all of us who believe.
@simeonyves5940
@simeonyves5940 2 месяца назад
@@joshhigdon4951 Sadly, there are a lot of People who are Unsavable, the Unelect/ those Elected for Destruction, Maybe that is what Saint Athanasius was getting at, that those who Deny the Trinity and do not Repent of their Denial are among the Unelect/those Elected for Destruction. True, were all Deceived once, we were all Lost and Dead in our Sins once. God can still Convert him, and save him from his Damnable error, if it be His will to do so in His Mercy. I do think, Sadly, that Marcus is Elected for Destruction under Romans 9, but I openly admit that I pray that I am wrong on that! I pray that God makes me wrong on that and shows Marcus His Tri-Une Nature and converts him away from his error and into the Faith before it is too Late.
@YeshuaisYahwah
@YeshuaisYahwah 2 месяца назад
Exactly when someone denies the trinity that right there is rebuking the Holy Ghost,i pray that he repents from this err.
@mrsz1988
@mrsz1988 2 месяца назад
3 years ago I hung on his every word and prophecy. I was a fool
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Praise God He has opened your eyes!
@Rumblealsojennings2929
@Rumblealsojennings2929 2 месяца назад
Don’t worry you ain’t the first there is a bunch more. But thank God you made it out hallelujah
@OrondeB
@OrondeB 2 месяца назад
I was like that from 2015-2020.
@naeembourne2474
@naeembourne2474 2 месяца назад
Praise God you're free!
@robinpatrick9787
@robinpatrick9787 2 месяца назад
Following any man Calvin included will make all of us fools ❤
@Foreknown_
@Foreknown_ 2 месяца назад
The Dunning-Kruger effect: a cognitive bias in which people wrongly and often drastically overestimate their knowledge or ability in a specific area, yet feel the need to tell others about their warped knowledge (Pictured Marcus Rogers).
@Mikeallen25
@Mikeallen25 2 месяца назад
Nothing like some good old spiritual gaslighting... "if you disagree with me, you don't have the holy spirit". -Marcus Rogers.
@DaughterLeeofTheMostHighYAH
@DaughterLeeofTheMostHighYAH 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@jimbobhaha
@jimbobhaha 2 месяца назад
Oneness, summarized.
@vanessap7209
@vanessap7209 2 месяца назад
😮😅 #this
@kt16621
@kt16621 2 месяца назад
For as long as he’s been “preaching” he’s still a babe!
@MoweezyTheStreetPreacher
@MoweezyTheStreetPreacher 2 месяца назад
Someone who is studied in the Bible by simply reading daily, it’s impossible to deny the Trinity
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
There is no trinity. The Lord our God is one and he manifested in the flesh.
@DEX-SAMA
@DEX-SAMA 2 месяца назад
@@ShmaAdonaiEhad "And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed" - Jesus in John 17:5. stop ur sillyness... Jesus, The Father and the Holy Spirit are the one God you're referring to from Mark 12:29. Because by saying there's only one "person" who is God and he's the one who manifested in our world. That means when he came down to our world, Heaven was empty. Do you see how silly your position is friend. Repent and genuinely study the doctrine of the trinity. God bless
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
@@DEX-SAMA oh seriously? God is omnipresent. He fills heaven and earth. How is heaven going to be empty.
@MoweezyTheStreetPreacher
@MoweezyTheStreetPreacher 2 месяца назад
@@ShmaAdonaiEhad Like I said only those who truly read the Bible daily cannot deny straight doctrine like the Trinity, may the LORD open ya eyes.
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
I am sorry that you think I am silly , but the scriptures say in Revelations 13:8 also say that Jesus was slain before the foundations of the world. Should you understand that in the literal sense.? Did Jesus die on the tree before the world was framed? Would I be silly to believe that? And of Jeremiah, God said before I formed you I knew you. So these are not literally but speaking of God calling the end at the beginning! Isaiah 46:10. He calls those things that be not as though they were. Romans 4:16. I am not looking to support teachings that were given to us other than by the apostles of Jesus christ! If they did not teach trinity and 3 in 1. Why should you. Any other gospel, you are accursed, the bible says. I have checked every scripture given to me by trinitarians and none of them had the meaning they were explaining. Always a distortion of truth. I am a lover of truth, if a person can prove their position by Scripture, I will go with it.
@NicoleeAsia
@NicoleeAsia 2 месяца назад
I think you were very respectful in this video, as you are in all your videos. I hope this review demonstrates to Marcus that respectful dialogue is doable and can be life changing! Amen! ❤️ Also-Church history is very intriguing! Thanks Kdub!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed!!
@RandomBoxingGuy
@RandomBoxingGuy 2 месяца назад
The council of Nicea seems to the scapegoat answer of anyone with bad theology… it’s always “Well, in the council of Nicea….”… then comes the cookie cutter answer.
@StLproof
@StLproof 2 месяца назад
Zeal without knowledge…
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
Good description
@stayyoungmyfriends
@stayyoungmyfriends 2 месяца назад
If denying the Trinity Doctrine was “bad”, then It would have been pointed out in scripture
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
It is. We cannot make up our God.
@stayyoungmyfriends
@stayyoungmyfriends 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru quote the scripture that says it is wrong to deny the Trinity Doctrine
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
@@stayyoungmyfriends Bro the trinity was never practiced by the early church because it was heresy and the apostles and prophet would have rejected it, as it does not represent who God is and it's true deity. Deuteronomy 6:4 speak of the one true God in one nature one essence I'm not three person which the Trinity promote. The oneness of God Stands Superior in Scripture I was practiced by the early church and that's what I believe should be practiced by every professing Christian.
@davidsmith3670
@davidsmith3670 Месяц назад
@Kdubtru, isn’t it funny how new age theologies attack tradition and doctrine but lift up the practices of the ‘early church’. 😂😂😂
@teachmeyourwayz...
@teachmeyourwayz... 2 месяца назад
The phrase “5 fold ministry” is not in the Bible nor the phrase “Jezebel spirit “ is not the Bible. But we know what it’s referring to.
@Hakeem597
@Hakeem597 2 месяца назад
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheMrGorman
@TheMrGorman 2 месяца назад
You can't say that about jezebel as we read in Revelations 2
@leegee2001
@leegee2001 2 месяца назад
1 John 5:7-8 "Because there are three in Heaven that testify - the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit - and these three are One ...
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
It does not say that these are three persons. God is One Spirit and He (YHWH) was the one who manifested in flesh.
@AngelaDavis-yz3xf
@AngelaDavis-yz3xf 2 месяца назад
Thank you for showing the words that you explained on screen. I was a little confused by Mr Rogers though, respectively 🙏
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Joe-fd3pq
@Joe-fd3pq 2 месяца назад
That's why I left the pentecostal movement because, like you stated before, they wanted us to be ignorant and dumb founded in our theology. Thanks, kdub!🫡
@tamarmull1516
@tamarmull1516 2 месяца назад
GOD THE FATHER GOD THE SON GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT Trying to explain it you will lose your mind Denying it you will lose your soul JESUS only asked us to do two things Follow & Trust HIM
@list3723
@list3723 2 месяца назад
That's three gods....give scripture to prove what you just said....
@tamarmull1516
@tamarmull1516 2 месяца назад
@list3723 Gospel of John 14:15-31 speaks of GOD JESUS HOLY SPIRIT, if you haven't received salvation then you will not understand, the word "WE" speaks of all three 😀 also none of us as Christians can fully understand it only follow the command to believe it, bless you my friend
@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4
@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4 2 месяца назад
Psalm 115: "There is only one true God. All other gods are made by people, and they have no power to help us"
@list3723
@list3723 2 месяца назад
@tamarmull1516 Listen, my friend......I asked you to prove your point per scripture.....Let's not going back and forth with saying I don't have Salvation and all that other stuff.... Now, you are adding to the Scriptures when you say there's three gods the bible never said that...Rev 22:18-19......Let's detail Scriptures....How many Fathers do we have per scripture?
@tamarmull1516
@tamarmull1516 2 месяца назад
@list3723 I never said you haven't received salvation my friend, ONE GOD who reveals HIMSELF in 3 different persons all are co-equal and co-eternal GOD the father, JESUS who sits at the right hand of the FATHER, and the HOLY SPIRIT who indwells all Christians read the scripture I sent you
@robinpatrick9787
@robinpatrick9787 2 месяца назад
I see nothing wrong with sticking to the Bible ❤
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Did you mean only say words found in the Bible? If yes? Then you can’t use the word Bible.
@robinpatrick9787
@robinpatrick9787 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru 😂 no I mean follow what the Bible says instead of men who did not partake in writing Scripture 💗
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance 2 месяца назад
​@@KdubtruActually you can, the word bible comes from the Greek words biblos; biblion and they are in the book, trinity doesn't come from any word in the bible as far as I know.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@Wisdoms_Inheritance but Biblios is referring to book. Not the whole canon, so that doesn’t work. But how about omniscient? Do you reject that God is omniscient?
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru Only if the bible isn't a collection of books doesn't that work, and no I don't reject God is all knowing, but that wasn't the point of my response, people often say the concept of trinity is in the bible, but I don't see how all of it is, maybe some of it, I don't see oneness at all.
@thebenzaga
@thebenzaga 2 месяца назад
11:18 that is not true. Constantine was not a Christian emperor. He didn’t convert until the end of his life, and he only legalized Christianity, but it was the emperor after him that made it the official religion of the Roman Empire.
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
He is not truthful in is rebuttal.
@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4
@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4 2 месяца назад
Can we agree that the bible says there is only one God...
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Of course. But we disagree on what that means
@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4
@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4 2 месяца назад
So are you saying the bible contradicts itself? If the bible says there is only one God, I expect there is only one. I'll keep it simple and pray there is no quiz or exam before going to heaven.
@user-bw1cb8kv6x
@user-bw1cb8kv6x 17 дней назад
One God Who exists eternally as 3 simultaneous persons; co-existent, co-eternal, co-equal​ and con-substantial@@Fatherof4-G1J2S3P4
@hebrewrld
@hebrewrld 2 месяца назад
The concept is being described.. but becuz the word isn’t in the Bible is low key ignorant respectfully. Genesis 1:26-27 clearly shows God exist different from us, Hebrews 1:8, even when David said the Lord said to my Lord! But you know God reveals things to the poor in spirit.
@teachmeyourwayz...
@teachmeyourwayz... 2 месяца назад
It’s religious and legalistic to say every word has to be in the Bible exactly as he says when words change as the world changes.
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
Marcus is on his 3rd wife the Bible says you can have only one guess that doesn’t count
@FactOverFealing
@FactOverFealing 2 месяца назад
@Vater1 it does gives reason why to divorce also!
@banemaler
@banemaler 2 месяца назад
Marcus often demands that people agree with his word when he uses the phrase, "God told me...". When he is found to be false by scripture he attempts to bind the conscience by saying we are guilty of the unforgivable sin. So Marcus, where are you and your prophetic thoughts found in God's Word?
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
I’m still waiting for Marcus to explain what God sounds like and or record the conversation
@jrvargas3096
@jrvargas3096 2 месяца назад
I’m confused why Marcus can’t accept the trinity. 😅
@DavidJones-eg3ws
@DavidJones-eg3ws 2 месяца назад
The Apostle Paul explains below the resistance that people have to the things of God 1 Corinthians 2. "12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. 14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one." (ESV)
@lyndarogers8749
@lyndarogers8749 2 месяца назад
Amen! Good video. I get tired of people saying " Well, the word Trinity is not in the Bible" and reject the concept of the three Persons of the Godhead. To their own peril, by the way.
@cicimelendez4557
@cicimelendez4557 2 месяца назад
If i remember correctly, Marcus grew up in the UPCI(United Pentecostal Church International). It is a oneness church that has been disavowed by the Assemblies of God as a cult. So its not surprising that he does not tolerate anyone else's opinion on the trinity because the UPCI does not believe that trinitarians are brothers in Christ. Again, I may be wrong, but I think he said in a video recentily that he grew up in a UPCI church or something similar. If anyone is interested in understanding what the UPCI believes about the trinity, and how to respond, here's a really great debate between Dr. Walter Martin (a baptist continuationist) against the UPCI. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1t1OIPb9JXQ.htmlsi=wu8p8KUdELK-7iTL
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
The doctrine of the Trinity is garbage 🗑️ and is never biblical and practiced in the Bible, it's a make up teaching.
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
The UPCI teaching is the right response to the God head.
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
One of the scriptures used to denote trinity is Genesis 1 where it says let us make make man in our image and likeness. If you use your concordance, you will see that the word us and our are not even used in the original Hebrew words. Only one word is used for let us make and one word for our image and the word means to do and image. Also eloheim, which is plural has several meanings which can be gods plural, angels, rulers and the Supreme God, one! This is in the concordance as well!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
The doctrine of the Trinity is reliant on just one passage there
@KingdomCarrie
@KingdomCarrie 2 месяца назад
Elohim =Family of God
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
Moses was called elohim in Exodus 7:1 This word does not mean family based on concordance and scriptures
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@followerofjesuschrist1557 I never said it meant family… and Elohim has a wide range of meaning but YHWH doesn’t…
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
@@KingdomCarrie Elohim as multitude of meaning and does not mean a plural of God, Take a look at this, it will give you deeper understanding of let us and the original language it was written in . Here’s the thing about Elohim = ‘Us’ and ‘Our’ of Genesis 1:26 11:7and other plurals yet single meaning words. © 1974, 2013 by Elder S. D. Ashe From my series and book: Here’s the thing ----® My personal notes on Hebrew language structure - 1. In the Hebrew language plural words are used for two reasons: a. To show number b. To strengthen the idea of the single word Main subject reference: Genesis 1:26 (KJV) 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 11:7 (KJV) 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. These two words “US” and “OUR” are plural words in Hebrew, both are the word ‘Elohim’, but they are not to show numbers; they are, in fact, to strengthen the concept or idea of God as being Almighty in His ability to do all things. This type of Hebrew grammar process is called: The 'Law of Majestic Plurality' or the 'Rule of Plural Majesty'. There are many instances in the Bible where this Law or Rule can be found. A few of many examples are: Genesis 24:9 (KJV) 9 And the servant put his hand under the thigh of Abraham his master, and sware to him concerning that matter. Master in Hebrew as used in this verse is the word אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done’) - to rule, sovereign, i.e. controller Here the word ‘master’ is plural in Hebrew. It does not mean that there are two Abrahams. The Hebrew wording here refers to Abraham as the ‘BIG BOSS’ showing his importance and the amount of respect the servant had for Abraham as a man of God, and as a good master. Genesis 24:51 (KJV) 51 Behold, Rebekah is before thee, take her, and go, and let her be thy master's son's wife, as the LORD hath spoken. Master in Hebrew as used in this verse is the word אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done’) - to rule, sovereign, i.e. controller Again, the word ‘master’s’ is plural in Hebrew as used here Laban and Bethuel was saying that they regarded Abraham as a great and noble man deserving respect and honor of great quality.. Genesis 39:20 (KJV) 20 And Joseph's master took him, and put him into the prison, a place where the king's prisoners were bound: and he was there in the prison. Master in Hebrew as used in this verse is the word אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done’) - to rule, sovereign, i.e. controller This plural ‘master’ shows the total and complete power and position that this man had in his action against Joseph. Joseph was accused of a great crime, and his ‘BIB BOSS’ made it a point that he, himself, would see to it that Joseph was put into prison. ` Genesis 40:1 (KJV) 1 And it came to pass after these things, that the butler of the king of Egypt and his baker had offended their lord the king of Egypt. King in Hebrew as used in this verse is the word ‘melek’ (meh’-lek) -a king. Pharaoh was the only ‘King’ of Egypt but here the word ‘King’ is plural, again showing power, Authority and Position. 1 Samuel 16:16 (KJV) 16 Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well. Lord in Hebrew as used in this verse is the word אָדוֹן 'adown (aw-done’) - to rule, sovereign, i.e. controller Saul’s servants call him ‘lord’ which in this case is a plural word. Saul was not two or more people, only one who had a very high rank and position in the land. Other cases for the plural word ‘Elohim’ being used but meaning something single: The golden calf the Israelites made of gold was always called ‘Elohim’ but there were never two or more calves but only the one. Exodus 32:1, 4, 5, 8, 20, 23, 24, 31 and 35 gods = Elohim = one golden calf. See also Psalm 106:19-20 and Acts 7:40-41. Now for a brief moment I want to introduce some very important and fascinating facts. 1. In the Old Testament, the words ‘presence’ and countenance’ are always plural. 2. European Kings and Queens and all Royalties refer to themselves in the plural. 3. During World War I and before all Germany army officers were always addressed in the plural. 4. Today, if you are alone and a Hebrew man addresses you, he will say ‘Shalom Aleken', which means Peace to you’s. This is referred to as ‘Polite plural of respect’. 5. Furthermore, today Arabic Chieftains in Ugaritic (a form of Hebrew) refers to themselves as ‘us’ (this also holds true in Hebrew). They use a plural of nouns, pronouns and verbs to refer to one individual. Here is another example from the Old Testament. Daniel 2:36 (KJV) 36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king. Notice here Daniel refers to himself as ‘we’. In understanding this Law of Majestic Plurality in the New Testament let me state this brief fact: The New Testament was by most accounts was originally written in Greek by Hebrew men (Luke being the only exception). The words were Greek, but all the grammar techniques were Hebrew. For example: 1 Thessalonians 3:1 (KJV) 1 Wherefore when we could no longer forbear, we thought it good to be left at Athens alone; Here Paul refers to himself as ‘we’. Another New Testament example: Revelation 1:4-6 (KJV) 4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Notice verse 4 talking about the ‘seven Spirits’ of God. Upon reading the rest of this chapter we are made to understand that the term ‘seven Spirits’ refers to the seven distinctive ways God is working with those seven different churches (vs 11 - Revelation 1:11 (KJV) 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.). To put it another way it is seven different technique's God will use with them to get each one back on the right track and path to be once again pleasing to Him and obeying the Word of God. For a much more complete study of the word Elohim see my Bible study entitled: Us and Our - Elohim of Genesis explained: US and OUR = ELOHIM
@kanayoeasley8448
@kanayoeasley8448 2 дня назад
Some Christians are just lazy in certain things. Not dumb, just heart is not in study, outside the 66 books. Marcus is one of these types. Sincere but shallow.
@DaShamrockKid
@DaShamrockKid 2 месяца назад
This is a prime example of one of the things that really bothers me about charismatic and Pentecostal teachers. When a teaching or doctrine agrees with their personal beliefs it’s special revelation given directly by the Holy Spirit. When it doesn’t agree with their personal beliefs it’s manmade and the Holy Spirit isn’t involved. Marcus Rogers claiming that the Council of Nicaea is invalid because the men involved weren’t the authors of scripture is laughable considering his belief in prophecy and direct revelation. If God speaks directly to Marcus Rogers then God could have spoken directly to the Council of Nicaea.
@1989pfrost
@1989pfrost 2 месяца назад
Rome didn’t become a Christian nation until the he emperor following Constantine. Constantine made Christianity legal. Theodosius 1 made Christianity the state religion
@yvonnemarie3261
@yvonnemarie3261 2 месяца назад
He sounds like one of my students who didn’t actually do any research but still proceeds to write a 10 page paper of nonsense. Smh He's worse, even, because at least my student would admit he didnt research, instead marcus blasts his ignorance all over YT. Im embarrassed for him.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
lol right
@1989pfrost
@1989pfrost 2 месяца назад
Is the term firehouse church in the Bible? I can’t find it
@JJ-mi1fr
@JJ-mi1fr 2 месяца назад
Amazing content! God bless you Sir
@TheAdot8808
@TheAdot8808 2 месяца назад
I tried to listen to Marcus a couple of times but I couldn't. It was like trying to listen to my 10 yr old tell me a story. He was all over the place and had no depth
@Hermeekness
@Hermeekness 2 месяца назад
I thought he believed in the Trinity now so he went back to not🤔 he's nerve wrecking anyway 😅
@Felix6512924
@Felix6512924 Месяц назад
I think the problem with people like Marcus (with all due respect) is that they’re so fundamentalist in their thinking they cannot be reasoned with. This is why hes refuting himself and doesn’t see that. When you counter his point, it’s simply that you don’t have the Holy Spirit because if you did then he would lead you to the same conclusion. That takes out all necessity to reason, again, fundamentalism. Throw in biblicism and you have mr Rogers. You did really well in this video and I pray it gets him thinking as he’s trying to get others thinking.
@daniellelevine9638
@daniellelevine9638 2 месяца назад
I always lean away when somebody says over and over “GOD SAYS” “GOD TOLD ME”. That can divide people into the have and the have nots. God does not speak any words in vain and I doubt these people are hearing from God as if God is some chatty Patti. I understand the Holy Spirit can speak to people, but when you say everything is from God. I have to side eye just a little bit.
@Rumblealsojennings2929
@Rumblealsojennings2929 2 месяца назад
God already said he is against him that say he say, that’s Marcus every word God speaking and showing him something. the spirit that got into him is foul …using him like dynamite 🧨
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
🔥🔥🔥
@mobbin4christ332
@mobbin4christ332 2 месяца назад
I can bet hes responding to Damon Richardson because of tge video he did with miss tytus, Damon did a Nicean video maybe 2 weeks ago,now Marcus who never touches church history wants to talk about it using Wikipedia as his main source of information
@raymondscott6680
@raymondscott6680 2 месяца назад
The trinity doctrine is not in any book of the Bible. That's clear.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Yup. Neither is the word Bible…
@raymondscott6680
@raymondscott6680 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru that is because the Bible is a collection of books. Not a book....pay attention
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@raymondscott6680 okay.. but the word isn’t the Bible… so therefore we can’t believe it right? That’s your argument for why Trinity is false… this is what you call a double standard.
@raymondscott6680
@raymondscott6680 2 месяца назад
@Kdubtru the Trinty doctrine is false because The Most High Creator is a jealous God. He dwells alone and shares His throne with no one and nothing.....reading is undefeated.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@raymondscott6680 1. That didn’t refute what I said. Yet Jesus shares the throne with the Father… and is worship along with Him…
@maleanewborn9073
@maleanewborn9073 2 месяца назад
Also, charismatics use more words and terms that are NOT in the bible than anyone! The word trinity is just a word! We believe the definition of the word. Call it something else! We still believe in one God, in three separate and distinct persons.
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
24:04 further more Adam a man was instructed to give the animals of this earth a name lol isn’t that “ man made “ ?
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Lol
@user-jy6hd9uw8h
@user-jy6hd9uw8h 2 месяца назад
Are you an apostle? You must be considering how smart you are! Hahahha
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
😂
@dermotlevy1490
@dermotlevy1490 2 месяца назад
Acts of the apostles. They were given authority by God to lay the foundation for the New Testament church.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Acts of the Spirit through the Apostles
@Rapunzel2866
@Rapunzel2866 2 месяца назад
Did it ever occur to Marcus that the Holy Spirit might have revealed the word 'Trinity' to the man so that we could easily understand the concept of the Godhead?
@edwinherrera6840
@edwinherrera6840 2 месяца назад
If you believe in the trinity or don’t does not mean you’re not safe, it’s not a salvation issue
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Yes it is. We don’t get to make up God
@edwinherrera6840
@edwinherrera6840 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru I just think you have a wrong definition of God. It can mean Ruler or judge of divine beings
@KingdomCarrie
@KingdomCarrie 2 месяца назад
Yes that’s what I said
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@edwinherrera6840 so that’s all God is, just some ruler?
@edwinherrera6840
@edwinherrera6840 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru the father is the ultimate ruler then it goes the son. The son would never rule over the father. The son is submitted to the Father. He’s not only a ruler. He’s also a judge that’s with that word means as well. The Bible speaks of Moses being like a God to Aaron
@MsDaybyday
@MsDaybyday 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your videos . Very informative. I hope many will find you and you hit 100k subs. Even though I do disagree with you about Deliverance ministry . I personally had one with Daniel Adam's . God is good! God set people free from bondage but other than that I am learning alot !! Your videos I listen to when I'm having my breakfast . I love how you read books too . Do more book reviews !
@dolphinitely_bro3944
@dolphinitely_bro3944 Месяц назад
The theme song reminds me of that immortal technique song
@_NEW3RA_
@_NEW3RA_ 2 месяца назад
5:20 facts!!! Can’t talk to an apostolic without them speaking primarily on the book of acts. I think apostolic believes in oneness also. And you are correct….. Acts is a transitional book.
@travonlove83190
@travonlove83190 2 месяца назад
Yes they do believe in oneness. I went to an apostolic church for a year and I saw a lot of things in there that I just didn't agree with
@_NEW3RA_
@_NEW3RA_ 2 месяца назад
@@travonlove83190 my uncle is one and there are a few things I don’t agree with and I’m sure they are the same things you don’t agree with.
@travonlove83190
@travonlove83190 2 месяца назад
@@_NEW3RA_ yes definitely. I know every time I would go up for prayers the pastor would always lay hands on me and give me a push and make it seem like it was the holy Spirit and I know it wasn't
@_NEW3RA_
@_NEW3RA_ 2 месяца назад
@@travonlove83190 my issues with it was that they believe baptism saves you. You have to speak in tongues in order to go to heaven. Women could only wear dresses and no makeup, lipstick, or nail polish on women and have to have something on their head at church. When they get finished they make you feel like your condemned and going to hell lol.
@travonlove83190
@travonlove83190 2 месяца назад
@@_NEW3RA_ yeah I had that same experience too and they also told me to that I had to be baptized of the holy Spirit with fire
@gisaac46
@gisaac46 2 месяца назад
These books Alon church history by Nick Needham are a necessary additional to your library.
@dermotlevy1490
@dermotlevy1490 2 месяца назад
Can somebody please share me the scripture where the apostles of Jesus Christ preached or taught trinity.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Here: Is the Doctrine of the Trinity Biblical? Lets talk about it.... ru-vid.comFVJzMDzhFIk?feature=share
@TriciaPerry-mz7tc
@TriciaPerry-mz7tc 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtruthere is no doctrine of trinity. There is ONE GOD WE SHOULD stop using words not in. The KJV period Say what Jesus and the apostles taught and let it go All over a word or terms NOT taught.
@KingdomCarrie
@KingdomCarrie 2 месяца назад
This is not a salvation issue guys!! The trinity though not mentioned in the Bible by that word has been described as one God with three parts! Now this is like arguing if the cross was a tree a stake or a cross, God told me the shape of the cross or tree is NOT a salvation issue it what was done on it that was important. Satan trying to get Christians to argue over non salvation issues
@dermotlevy1490
@dermotlevy1490 2 месяца назад
@@KingdomCarrie ok so no scriptures can be produced. We cannot tell God who he is, God tell us who he is and it is very much a salvation issue, because those who believe on such a thing as trinity do not know who Jesus is
@joshuacooperseo
@joshuacooperseo Месяц назад
@@dermotlevy1490 Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” 3 persons, 1 essence of the same God. You can’t baptize anyone in the name of anything else but God of creation.
@josephwatts9013
@josephwatts9013 2 месяца назад
The word “PROVIDENCE” is not in the Bible but I would dare any serious biblical student to say the concept is not
@phillipbenjamin6920
@phillipbenjamin6920 2 месяца назад
He's not denying the Trinity he's denying that we are justified by being under that name or recognizing that word he acknowledges Father Son and holy spirit.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Yes he is denying the Trinity. Marcus view of Gospel fundamentally denies the Trinity view. Acknowledging the words “Father, son and Spirit” isn’t an affirmation of the Trinity alone. All people who deny the Trinity use those words
@rjc9537
@rjc9537 2 месяца назад
He definitely doesn’t like using the word Trinity. But he does acknowledge that Jesus is God. At least he did when he spoke to brother Corey. I’m curious to see if he changed his position on who Jesus is. 🤔🤔🤔
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Many cults affirm “Jesus is God”
@rjc9537
@rjc9537 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru Interesting… Can’t wait to see the video! 😇💪🙏
@Mon_205
@Mon_205 2 месяца назад
@@KdubtruWhat’s up Kdub,if you will one day we could have a quick dialogue only through scripture about Jesus Christ and I will show by the word that he’s God Almighty and It’s only He. Couldn’t find and email and I try to stop commenting on RU-vid because it’s unfruitful as far as me and I don’t want to stir others so I ask to come to you because you seem seasoned in the word . No worries though if you don’t want to I definitely understand and I don’t care one bit for the camera so any other way would be cool.
@gisaac46
@gisaac46 2 месяца назад
I have volumes one through three and will purchase the other two volumes this year. One day I would like to have a conversation with you.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
🙏
@naeembourne2474
@naeembourne2474 2 месяца назад
Marcus Roger's uses the term theology. Yet theology is not in the Bible.b.
@JacobSerwinski-fx3on
@JacobSerwinski-fx3on 2 месяца назад
Always learning but Never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
29:33 he’s always looping “ everybody “ into people being mad smh. He’s the mad one
@douglasbrown4272
@douglasbrown4272 2 месяца назад
Thank you, brother. I had the same opinion about Corey minors' gentle questions
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Amen
@CrystalRosario-rn1mp
@CrystalRosario-rn1mp 2 месяца назад
This was excellent!
@angeldelatorre8189
@angeldelatorre8189 2 месяца назад
Man thank you for explaining all this 🙏
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful!
@manwitpurpose50
@manwitpurpose50 2 месяца назад
def agree that the appearance he made on the Smart Christian channel was a bit lacking in regards to the questioning by Corey to really dig into his theological stance. Marcus' theological stance has always been suspect to me based on a lot of things he says. His entire defense seem to be based on being filled by the spirit through evidence of speaking in gibberish and demon casting. I would go ahead and suggest, why not bring him on your show for an interview and really question his theological views? people like him will always say why must we always bring theology into the discussion and not the bible? I'm curious as to their understanding of the word "theology", the benefit and importance as it has EVERYTHING to do with God, his creation, plan and everything in the 66 books.
@AdrianP225
@AdrianP225 2 месяца назад
It’s like he does everything to defend his point but read history or the Bible for that matter.
@By_fire345
@By_fire345 2 месяца назад
I was thinking the same thing… very unfortunate. 😫
@jackierobinson81
@jackierobinson81 2 месяца назад
I am praying for Marcus, he is so lost, only God can still redeem him
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
His members would “ rebuke “ you for typing that trust me I know
@TriciaPerry-mz7tc
@TriciaPerry-mz7tc 2 месяца назад
He won’t give up that THIRD WIFE Don’t waste your time. He is using people for gain lifestyle. He is no pastor
@jackierobinson81
@jackierobinson81 2 месяца назад
@@Vater1 Where did he get his theology? What is how he believes called, I don't understand his interpretation of the Bible.
@JMASK4G
@JMASK4G 2 месяца назад
I’ve met Christians like him. I can’t explain it but I’ve encountered that type of spirit. Does he believe in election?
@phillipbenjamin6920
@phillipbenjamin6920 2 месяца назад
Do you see how subtle that is though Jesus is not only the same essence as the Father He is the Father "before Abraham was I Am" and he's the only begotten son of God; God made flesh walking among us
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
I don’t understand what you’re communicating here…
@michaelbanks8964
@michaelbanks8964 2 месяца назад
Hello, can you all show me in the Scriptures where Trinity is mentioned??? ANYWHERE??? PLEASE!!!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
The word? Or concept?
@michaelbanks8964
@michaelbanks8964 2 месяца назад
What do you mean the word or concept??? I don't understand that at all. Jesus, his disciples, the prophets, or the Apostles never mentioned the Trinity or three person God in the Scriptures. The fact of the matter is we have to get back to teaching and preaching the word. Stop all this nonsense with different terminology that man made up. Scriptures clearly said... don't add or take away from what the Scriptures said. Let's get about our Father's business and preach the word of Jesus Christ to all mankind. Because as you can or don't want to see. We are living in the very last days!!!!!
@DavidJones-eg3ws
@DavidJones-eg3ws 2 месяца назад
@michaelbanks8964 Do you follow the Golden Rule? Do you aspire to act like the Good Samaritan? Do you believe in the Rapture? Do you take Holy Communion?
@Fruitpunchyearsago
@Fruitpunchyearsago 2 месяца назад
@@michaelbanks8964 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS God. John makes it clear that Jesus was with God in the beginning, meaning He is Eternal and always existed and that He a different person with the Father who interact and have a relationship with each other, yet is still fully the same God
@AfricanSheep
@AfricanSheep 2 месяца назад
I love Corey dearly but he's been concerning me a bit lately with first off his Marcus Rogers defence and now it's Tony Evans. Oh man...
@matbb891
@matbb891 2 месяца назад
Good talk! I like these these discussions: Weren’t there Sabellians who influenced the formation of the original Nicene Creed? Do you think “studied” Oneness believers disagree with the original Nicene Creed? GOD bless!
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
Please go read and do your research on church history and you will see that the oneness of God was evident in the early church, Calvin had Michael Servetus executed. During what has been called the Servetus Affair in Geneva in 1553, Calvin was embroiled in the trial and execution by burning of Anabaptist Michael Servetus (c. 1511-1553), who was adamant in his denial of the Trinity.
@stephenlaing4122
@stephenlaing4122 2 месяца назад
Good .. God is one,Well done Marcus! Hear oh Israel the Lord our God is one!
@Cataliina_mariia
@Cataliina_mariia 2 месяца назад
You will lose your soul for believing this lie
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
Correct. The Lord our God is One and his name is Jesus Christ (Deuteronomy 4:39),(Deuteronomy 6:4),(1 Timothy 3:16),(John 1:10).
@cultdoctor100
@cultdoctor100 2 месяца назад
The Didache , of Antioch The earliest Church Father to use the word "Trinity-- Ignatius of Antioch,Polycarp of Smyrna,Tertullian,Hippolytus of Rome,Origen, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, ETC
@masterscheme1
@masterscheme1 2 месяца назад
And HE is 100 percent RIGHT... we worship ONE God who is not divided... Which we gonna confirm soon enough...because judgment is literally coming...
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Trinitarian don’t believe in a DIVIDED God
@phillipbenjamin6920
@phillipbenjamin6920 2 месяца назад
His argument is that some churches don't associate with one another based on denominational or traditional belief titles we are justified in Christ one body he believes Jesus and the father are one hes saying we shouldnt be separated by denomination
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
We should most definitely be separated by heresy
@MAB4613
@MAB4613 2 месяца назад
What shall I cry ministries did a really good comparison video of this teaching from Marcus vs a guest on Melissa Dougherty's show.
@JudeOne3Four
@JudeOne3Four 2 месяца назад
Yes, Marcus Rogers is STILL not learning and Trinitarians are STILL not learning that one means one and not three!!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Of course one means one. But you assume it’s one of person rather than unity. Scripture says man and woman become one, does this mean there are only one person in a marriage? 🤔
@JudeOne3Four
@JudeOne3Four 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru The moment you start redefining words, you KNOW you're in a cult, for sure! The man and woman become ONE COUPLE not two couples!!! Malachi 2:10 Have we not all have one Father has not one God created us? One means one in *every* language you can imagine. EXCEPT when you're living in LalaLand 🤡 The next thing you're going to tell me is that Father means three persons?
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@JudeOne3Four it doesn’t say one couple. It says one. You added that. Again, one doesn’t always have a numeric meaning. Do a study on echad
@JudeOne3Four
@JudeOne3Four 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru It doesn't say couple but it for sure doesn't say compound unity. But WHAT do you see in reality? *One married couple,* a husband and his wife! It doesn't mean that one means two!!! Word games. No such thing as compound unity. One means one in every single language you can imagine. I guess Malachi was confused? Than you DARE to say: One doesn’t always have a numeric meaning? I will challenge you on that *>>> PROOF IT!!!
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
, you know the doctrine of the Trinity is nothing more than fallacy. I used to be a Trinitarian, and the more I explained the Trinity, the more I deviated from scripture. It does not have anything to do with Christ and His work in the life of the believer. The doctrine of the Trinity was put together by pagan worshipers who wanted to put God in a multitude of plural, which is not biblical but a cult-like mentality. Jesus is God manifested in flesh; He's the only true God who has saved humanity from their sins. Through Him and Him alone can they be saved. It's quite baffling that you guys want to force Oneness believers to accept the Trinity when you call us a cult member. Our doctrine is firmly in Scripture and affirmed by the prophets and the apostles. The doctrine of the Trinity will lead you to hell. I hope you repent before it's too late.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
This is absurd nonsense. Appeal to self. Appeal to historical revisionism. Nonsense
@terryrambarran5917
@terryrambarran5917 2 месяца назад
The main issue with this feeling of Jesus and this experience feeling of Jesus today to me is nonsense because Jesus Himself said if you don't believe in me or my words at least believe in the works I do. I don't need a feeling or experience to see from Scripture His works are divine in nature. Paul reminded us that tongues will cease, prophecy will cease but the love of Christ will never cease. All the physical miracles themselves that awe us today will cease because being with God forever is far better and His works will remain. He never changes in essence or in nature. Hebrews 1:1 says it best for me when everbody is debating His truth. I too believe in the Godhead that is revealed in Scripture by God of His divine nature of the Father, the Son and the Spirit.
@TheMrGorman
@TheMrGorman 2 месяца назад
Show, also the doctrine of the trinity in the Bible.
@MJWCBW
@MJWCBW 2 месяца назад
I had to unfollow bro years ago. For me it was the arrogance combined with his L takes
@reubenhollingsworth7349
@reubenhollingsworth7349 2 месяца назад
Can someone please explain this scripture to me? John 8-42. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
@Rumblealsojennings2929
@Rumblealsojennings2929 2 месяца назад
Self explanatory: they can’t see when God is speaking, they skip right over it. So for someone to hang out with this character, let alone have you believe he’s been giving the gift of the holy ghost is basic Bible 101. He’s lying 🤥
@Mikeallen25
@Mikeallen25 2 месяца назад
It seems here that the people Jesus was speaking to did not accept his words when he told them he is the messiah.... back up to verse 39-41 for more context.
@reubenhollingsworth7349
@reubenhollingsworth7349 2 месяца назад
@@Mikeallen25 I read the Bible 3 times so I know what the whole book of John is saying but the point is Jesus Christ the word of God said he came out of GOD and GOD sent him not Him coming himself
@reubenhollingsworth7349
@reubenhollingsworth7349 2 месяца назад
@@Mikeallen25 like Jesus said do not understand his words
@robydickinson6479
@robydickinson6479 2 месяца назад
So Why do you ask the question if you know the answer 🤔🤔🤔
@Vater1
@Vater1 2 месяца назад
20:22 Finally someone with platform addressed this !!! Thanks ! lol
@J21665
@J21665 2 месяца назад
Bro…. Marcus hung himself on this one 😓. Well he has in the past but this one he was so confidently wrong..
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
The trinity is garbage 🗑️ and was never in the Bible, you better repent and accept the oneness of God believe it's too later.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Sure it is. Leave your threats tho
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
The first century church did not believe in the church and never practiced this demon trinity along with the ungodly church father.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Cool assertion, the Trinity is taught very early
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru Bro, you know the doctrine of the Trinity is nothing more than fallacy. I used to be a Trinitarian, and the more I explained the Trinity, the more I deviated from scripture. It does not have anything to do with Christ and His work in the life of the believer. The doctrine of the Trinity was put together by pagan worshipers who wanted to put God in a multitude of plural, which is not biblical but a cult-like mentality. Jesus is God manifested in flesh; He's the only true God who has saved humanity from their sins. Through Him and Him alone can they be saved. It's quite baffling that you guys want to force Oneness believers to accept the Trinity when you call us a cult member. Our doctrine is firmly in Scripture and affirmed by the prophets and the apostles. The doctrine of the Trinity will lead you to hell. I hope you repent before it's too late.
@ricardosmart26
@ricardosmart26 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru you need to stop spread lie, because there is no evidence in the scripture not this doctrine or concept was ever practiced by the apostles and Prophets, the doctrine of the Trinity would have been heresy and you know that's a fact.
@naeembourne2474
@naeembourne2474 2 месяца назад
The bible never tells us to test the fruit
@KingdomCarrie
@KingdomCarrie 2 месяца назад
Test all spirits! Rotten trees don’t produce good fruit and Good trees cannot produce rotten fruit. Look at the fruit and let IT speak
@naeembourne2474
@naeembourne2474 2 месяца назад
@KingdomCarrie judge them by their fruit, which are found in Galatians 5:22-25. Judging and testing are two different things. The bible doesn't tell us the "test" the fruit but the try (to examine or discern) the spirit. (1John 5:1). We 'know' (recognize) them by the fruit they bear. (Matt. 7:20). Recognizing is not testing.
@REVELATION1412
@REVELATION1412 Месяц назад
I don’t think all those that agree on the trinity can really agree on what that means. When I ask someone to explain it, they start to describe oneness. My old pastor couldn’t even explain it. I came to the conclusion that Jesus is God, just not the Most High God. He is given authority by His Father. If He was indeed TMH, it wouldn’t be given, He would already have it. Daniel and the book of Revelation describes what is seen. It describes the Son of Man AND the Most High. Also., how can He sit on the right side of Himself? I have more but I’ll stop here. If anyone has a valid explanation using scripture, I’ll be more than willing to have an open ear to it. I’m still learning.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru Месяц назад
Well then you should talk to actual Trinitarians
@REVELATION1412
@REVELATION1412 Месяц назад
@@Kdubtru Just so im clear, can YOU define what it means to believe in the trinity?
@jimbobhaha
@jimbobhaha 2 месяца назад
20:01 ... If I start using a new word not in the Bible... Yes, like oneness.
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
The trinity says that God is three persons in 1. God father, God the son and God the holy spirit. But the bible does not support this idea. 1. The bible says God is a spirit and John says no one has ever seen God at any time because he is a spirit. So God is not a person, but a spirit. How many spirits? One! Here ye o Israel the Lord our God is one. Not three in one; but one. 2. Father, and Holy spirit are not explained as persons of God but titles that represent who God is. Malachi says We have one father, one creator. Malachi did not say this is a differerent person of God, no he is our father because he created you just like you call the one person your father because he procreated you. Does father denote a diff person of the same man that you call father? David said take not your holy spirit away from me. God is spirit and he is holy set or apart. Not a diff person of the same person. And son denotes creation. God put on flesh and blood and became a person. John says in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and was God! (Not another person of God!!!) And the word became flesh! This means he put on flesh and blood. He did not always have it. This body is the son of God because son denotes creation. Jesus is also called the son of God because he had no biological father but God just as Adam is also called the son of God in the Bible because he had no biological father but God. Unfortunately this is another teaching rigged by the roman catholic when they created their version of Jesus Christ's teaching and many if not most protestant/ christianity denominations still teach. However this is not what the Holy Scriptures teach
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
It’s clear you don’t understand what Trinitarians mean by person. We do not mean HUMAN person. Learn the position you are criticizing
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
God bless! So I think I understand the position well but please let me know if I am wrong. I did not say in the post that trinitarians say God is humans. 3 distinct persons means that Jesus is not the Father, the holy spirit is not the father and the holy spirit is not Jesus but they are all equal to 1 God. The scriptures say something diff. I am not here to argue. Just want you to consider what the Scriptures say. First, the physical body of Jesus is not God because John 1:18 says no one has ever seen God at any time and colossians 1 says he is the visible image of the invisible God. So, the physical body of Jesus can not be God 2. The bible tells us that the fullness of God dwells bodily in Christ Jesus. Colossians 2:9-10 and that same spirit in christ is the same spirit of the father. Romans 8:9 calls the spirit of God the spirit of christ. 3. In the bible, the word father does not talk about a diff entity of God. It just means creator. Malachi says have we not 1 father one creator? And holy spirit is referring to the same spirit of God. God is a spirit and he is holy. That same spirit lives in Christ Jesus, the scriptures told us which is why all things were created by him. Not the physical body but the spirit of the father/ creates who is fully dwelling in the body. Son refers to the physical body human of jesus. Adam is called son of God in luke 3:31. Was he God? That term does not mean a person/entity of God. 3. Trinitarians use the scriptures when Jesus prayed to the father, etc. to show that they are two separate entities completely, but the bible says that Jesus told his disciples that he spoke figuratively of who the father was but after his death, they would understand. Literal would be that what you see is what you get. Jesus praying to the father is because they are 2 complete diff entities/ person but after His death, they gained the revelation. The fullness of God dwells bodily in Christ Jesus. His spirit was fully God, the same God that created the universe, Father, the same God that will dwell in you if you repent. Ephesians 4:6 says there is 1 spirit and one God, father of us all! No scripture says he is 3 in 1 because he is not. If it were true, the bible would say it. Instead trinitarians have to try scriptures that they think describes this idea but again without any proof that that is what the scripture means. They are trying to support a doctrine created by man and not God. Satan is the father of all lies and he wants you and others to continue in lies. I pray that you have a heart to see what is clearly stated in scripture.
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
25 “Though I have been speaking figuratively, a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father. John 16:25
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
And one more: Matthew 28:19, go ye and baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit supposedly supports trinitarian position although again this scripture does not say 3 persons in 1 God. All throughout Acts, they baptized in Jesus name. Acts 2:38 is one of them. Acts 19....bible cannot contradict itself. If the apostles who in Matthew 28:19 were told to make disciples and teach us what they were commanded and they baptized in the name of Jesus, that must be the name of the father, son and holy spirit! Or the apostles sinned against God. How can Jesus be the name of the father, son and holy spirit. As explained up above, there is only 1 God, creator and he is spirit who is set apart, ( father and holy spirit just express those qualities of God) and that spirit fully lived in Christ Jesus. The scriptures were given up above
@followerofjesuschrist1557
@followerofjesuschrist1557 2 месяца назад
And the physical body of Jesus is the son
@naeembourne2474
@naeembourne2474 2 месяца назад
@Kdubtru i agree, but why so many bibles call it the "Acts of the Apostles? "
@DavidJones-eg3ws
@DavidJones-eg3ws 2 месяца назад
Remember, eveyone. Marcus Rogers is the guy whom Corey Minor calls a brother in Christ.
@ministerraymondflood6909
@ministerraymondflood6909 2 месяца назад
None of the writers of the new testament use words like persons,substance, 3 in one , etc. All of the word gymnastics of the trinity doctrine is confusing and unnecessary. I see why Muslims reject it. There are variations of the trinity doctrine, which further divides believers. Why is it so important to affirm this doctrine of the trinity.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
So if a word isn’t in the Bible then we should reject that doctrine? Okay, can you find omniscience in the Bible for me?
@DavidJones-eg3ws
@DavidJones-eg3ws 2 месяца назад
Do you follow the Golden Rule? Do you aspire to act like the Good Samaritan? Do you believe in the Rapture? Do you take Holy Communion?
@KingdomCarrie
@KingdomCarrie 2 месяца назад
Not a salvation issue!!! Worship God in spirit and Truth
@DavidJones-eg3ws
@DavidJones-eg3ws 2 месяца назад
@KingdomCarrie How can you worship God in spirit and truth without knowing who and what He is? If God is three co-equal persons in one being, and if you deny this fact, how can you honestly say that you are worshipping Him truthfully?
@photoman505
@photoman505 2 месяца назад
​@@DavidJones-eg3ws we really don't know who or what he truly is. We only know in part. (1+(1)+1)=1 or ((1)+(1)+(1))=1 This is what everyone is debating
@TheBritfashionista
@TheBritfashionista 2 месяца назад
He lost me when he said God told him Trump was going to be President then it wind up being Biden.Im like yea this dude has definitely been led astray.
@HaroldBond-ks2qm
@HaroldBond-ks2qm 2 месяца назад
How do explain isaiah 9:6 and rev 1:8,9
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Isaiah 9:6 isn’t saying Jesus the Father, rather He along with the Father possess an eternality. Rev 1:8 is a great verse demonstrating Jesus is God (not the Father)
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
Of course Jesus is the Father. Jesus is the Father of all creation. He made all things.
@RealLadyG
@RealLadyG 2 месяца назад
Don’t be ignorant. The word Bible is a description of the cover page of all the holy books within it as written by many authors. The word Bible is not doctrine or gospel. However y’all created a false description of a doctrine called trinity. All man made and y’all added to the scriptures, which is blasphemy. The Bible refers to the Godhead, not trinity. God doesn’t need to split himself into 3. Utter nonsense. Repent.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
So we can use words not found in the Bible? I totally agree 👍
@RealLadyG
@RealLadyG 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru God gave us all free agency and there are consequences to what you choose to believe. Are you related to chubby checker because you sure love to twist God’s words? Ignorance won’t be a defence when you stand before God on judgement day. I can’t understand why people prefer to go with their carnal mindset which the scriptures say is death instead of a spiritual mindset which is peace and life. In all things we are suppose to not lean unto our own understanding but counsel with God through prayer and fasting so the cunning and crafty deceiver, don’t blindside us and lead us astray like he’s been doing since from the beginning of time. The worse are those who claim to be saved while they follow commandments and philosophies of man and weaponizing their false beliefs to attack other believers. God warned us about being deceived, but yet y’all just go along with what other worldly false doctrines that have corrupted the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Y’all are so spiritually blind. When I read, study, ponder, pray and even fast, The Holy Ghost teaches all God’s truth and bears witness. Stop treating the Gospel of Jesus Christ in vain. God does things in order. Jesus created his church and his gospel is preached by his chosen and ordained servants calling everyone to believe, repent and be baptized by authorized servants who lay their hands on their heads to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and to continue to live righteously to be rewarded at judgement day eternal life. But no, y’all decide you prefer a different Gospel authorized by satan and reject the one Jesus and his apostles have taught. Y’all come up with another interpretation of the deity and holiness of God and his mysteries and nature. Nicene creed is an abomination that teaches the Trinity, once saved always saved, rejecting good works, hanging only on belief to be saved, rejecting Baptism/being born again and that Jesus did everything so you can live however you want and cruise on into heaven while attacking and slandering those who believe in the Full and True Everlasting Gospel of Jesus Christ. Make that make sense. Nothing y’all believe in is accurate. It’s all FALSE and most of you will be shocked when the day of Judgement is upon y’all because God will point out all his doctrine as written in the Holy Bible that y’all ignore and reject twisting it whereby it becomes the Gospel of the devil. Y’all are lost and being led astray. Open your spiritual eyes and mind and seek God personally to come to the real truth. You shouldn’t jeopardize your salvation due to ignorance, spiritual blindness, wilful disobedience, stiffneckedness and being deceived. We are no different than the people that came before us that rejected the teachings of Jesus while he himself walked and talked with them. Do you really think God is gonna leave us in the mountain of chaos surrounding the plethora of different understanding and beliefs? God Forbid!!!! Look at the 46,000 different believing churches, and the hundreds of different Bible translations and versions. Is all that confusion from God or the devil? We will all be judged under the same measurements. All will be taught the same exact Full and Everlasting Gospel of Jesus Christ and if you reject it and ignore sound doctrine you are choosing another Gospel and will suffer the consequences. 2 TIMOTHY 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” KJV. Why did God warn us? He doesn’t lie. This prophesy have been fulfilled. MATTHEW 15:8 “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” KJV I doubt you ever prayed without ceasing nor fasted to sincerely ask God if the False Gospel of the Nicene creed and the others who came up with their own teachings was authorized by God and if it’s the truth. I can testify to you that those who have gone to God directly to know his truth and to avoid being deceived, God have answered their prayers and they have peace and joy and they have covenanted with God and have taken up his name upon themselves. You have a lot to gain spiritually by doing so and a lot to lose by not doing so. Don’t be foolish like the Pharisees, Sadducees, evil doers, naysayers, the spiritually blind, etc rejecting what they don’t understand and falling prey to the deceptions of the devil. I pray that you will sincerely counsel with God to recognize his only truth amongst all the chaos the devil brings and listen to the promptings of the Holy Ghost who is the master of all God’s truth and he bears witness. The truth shall set you free. 🙏🏽
@noseriously2840
@noseriously2840 2 месяца назад
The issue I have with this video is your manner in correcting what you may believe to be wrong. Me personally I’m more like Marcus in the fact of being ignorant to so called church fathers and council and whatnot. I seek God through spirit and truth in my day to day and from evidence in the Bible. That’s not to say the research of the early church isn’t unnecessary it just isn’t necessary to growing everyone’s faith. Doctrine like that may help the scholarly minded but someone may be a different part of the body in their understanding. Marcus obviously stepped in unfamiliar territory but it sounds like instead of elaborating on his points to give wisdom and understanding it sounds like you were quick to attack his knowledge on the matter when you knew it was minimal. That “Uhm actually ☝🏾🤓” comes to mind when nitpicking pronunciations and such. Sure your tone might have been soft but that doesn’t mean the correction was kind and gentle. It may not have been the intention but it came off as condescending. There’s an issue going on today where men of God are at each other’s throats and there is a lack of proper love and patience being shown nowadays. Im not exempt either we all have to work on that but new Christians might see something like this and start accusing and hating Marcus.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Not sure what I did wrong.
@GOD1sCrea8tor.
@GOD1sCrea8tor. 2 месяца назад
1 John 5:7-21 KJV For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
@joshhigdon4951
@joshhigdon4951 2 месяца назад
Do Brandon Tatum next!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
I have done a few on him
@joshhigdon4951
@joshhigdon4951 2 месяца назад
​@@KdubtruI know. He recently made some more goofy statements, but nothing new.
@maleanewborn9073
@maleanewborn9073 2 месяца назад
When Jesus went to the temple, prayed and taught and took part in all the religious ceremonies Jews had at that time, was HE evil and “religious”? Is that what Marcus thinks? They act as if religion & being religious in any way are the unforgivable sin. Was Jesus religious Marcus?
@Hakeem597
@Hakeem597 2 месяца назад
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
@godschildent
@godschildent 2 месяца назад
Mannnn no one can prove the trinity according to scripture… It doesn’t matter how pious you speak…. There is no trinity doctrine….. man made the trinity doctrine! God said I am ONE….. not a trinity! God said I am God alone and there is none else..!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Cool assertion. Parroting “God is one” isn’t refuting anything. Oneness proponents must assume one of singularity rather than one of unity. Husband and wife become one (Echad) is this also one person in a marriage?
@deontreburnett2994
@deontreburnett2994 2 месяца назад
(Marcus Rogers)Heretic 📖💯
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
The triune gods that the trinity teaches is heresy.
@deontreburnett2994
@deontreburnett2994 2 месяца назад
@@ShmaAdonaiEhad 1 being 3 persons the way god explains it biblically ,to thee unbeliever these things are foolish, that's what he said about ppl like you
@ShmaAdonaiEhad
@ShmaAdonaiEhad 2 месяца назад
@@deontreburnett2994 ​ @deontreburnett2994 I believe the scripture not the pagan triune gods. I believe the Lord our God is One and Jesus Christ is He. Nice try at gaslighting. Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and be filled with the Holy ghost (Acts 2:37-38),(Acts 19:2-6).
@tinas7909
@tinas7909 2 месяца назад
🤦🏼‍♀️
@etrust1695
@etrust1695 2 месяца назад
Those who deny the miracle workings of the Holy Spirit is blasphemy and will not be forgiven. I pity the foo! Shalom bro!
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
I don’t deny that the Holy Spirit does miracles today, how about deal with the video rather than deflect
@terry51
@terry51 2 месяца назад
Dude please show me in the Bible book chapter and verse where it uses the word Trinity to describe the Father So and Holy Spirit and you do know The book of Acts is the beginning of the church and you need to remember Matthew 12:36 you don’t believe the whole Bible.
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
Show me chapter and verse where the word Bible is used?
@terry51
@terry51 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru Ok good deflection from the question still waiting and I never said anything about the word Bible being in the word of God so do you read the bible or whatever you want to call it
@Kdubtru
@Kdubtru 2 месяца назад
@@terry51 I answered you. I’m showing your double standard. If we must find the word then by YOUR logic then the Bible is false… since the sins the argument YOUVE used against the Trinity.
@user-jy6hd9uw8h
@user-jy6hd9uw8h 2 месяца назад
​@Kdubtru Man, how can you deal with people like this lol? I think it's honestly mind-boggling to think that anyone in the modern world can trust so much In themselves they deny 2000y of Orthodox teachings 😅 The reformers quote the church father, but they quote heretics! Not only that they dare anathematize Trinitarians lol (where did they get that authority from)...
@terry51
@terry51 2 месяца назад
@@Kdubtru I believe in the father son and holy spirit I believe they are one I believe that Jesus died on that cross and rose again I believe he sent the Holy Spirit to help us to rightly divide and lead us I believe that repenting from my sins and asking his forgiveness he is faithful to forgive me. Just because I don’t say Trinity does that mean I am not saved serious question
@YeshuaisYahwah
@YeshuaisYahwah 2 месяца назад
I unscripted from him months ago and don't great regret it.thanks to youtuber christen for real I said okay margos is off my list
@user-mr8yq5ov8g
@user-mr8yq5ov8g Месяц назад
Concept of trinity is not biblical. Marcus is wrong about a lot of things, but he got this one right. God does not love religion. James 1:27 doesn’t have the word “religion” in proper translations. Please stop reading KJV & ESV. There are over 20,000 translation errors to suite the narrative of the “translators.” Read literal versions like Youngs & Concordant Literal. Use Strong’s Concordance to understand these words properly. You’ll have a much deeper understanding.
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