@@BloodReaper95 Gonadal streaks turn cancerous at extremely high rates. It IS life threatening. And without HRT, they will die extremely young of heart disease or their bones crumbling. Women (XY) who have this condition need to be treated exactly as she was to have something close to a normal lifespan. She didn't have plastic surgery but lifesaving treatment.
@@toomanymarys7355 That's exactly why I put the caveat of if it's life threatening becomes a different story. Clearly it was. Wasn't saying otherwise, even said some people might need this treatment in another comment section as well.
Every time I hear about intersex-"fixing" surgeries it just blows my mind that they're legal. Very few offer the same level of transparency, risk disclosure, etc. that's required of any other surgery. What other operation in America would you walk out of not knowing what was done???
@@exchi If you get an open-heart surgery, they're still required to inform what the procedure entails. The only possible exception I'm not familiar with is last-minute emergency surgery (like cardiac arrest), but very few intersex-related surgeries (if any) qualify as that. It's not usually a fatal condition, and especially not an *immediately* fatal one
@@Otingocni This video wasn't addressing circumcision. Just because I complain about the rainforests dying doesn't mean I don't care about pine trees. Although, your legal guardians were probably informed about the risks when they made the decision. In the YT Short we're commenting on, even the parents didn't know what the procedure was. But I've never heard of anyone complaining that they didn't know the exact procedure of a circumcision before agreeing to it. PLUS, many circumcisions are performed in nonmedical settings. Different laws apply when it's not a licensed medical professional. All that said, I DO think circumcision should be a decision left for the child when they're old enough to understand. But I also don't think it's a LEGAL issue in this case.
I'm not intersex but I tried explaining this to my boyfriend earlier today and he said "Once that surgery is done, they aren't intersex anymore so there is no possibility of them being upset about what happened because they're cured" and I was like "No, that.... That's not at all how that works"
Why are you talking about queer issues that don't affect you in your straight relationship? And why the hell are you so obsessed with a minority population of which you don't belong exactly? It's giving white savior gross infantilizing minorities vibe while you're fully in a straight white Cis relationship trying to somehow distance yourself from your privilege
I know certain intersex surgeries r done at birth bc for example undeveloped testes can become tumors. But a point of a medical procedure is to FULLY DISCLOSE what they did. It’s disgusting that they’re so “hush hush” abt it. I know there was a lot of unnecessary surgeries done at birth as well to make them anatomically look like one sex, but this often resulted in gender dysphoria.
Yeah, I know an intersex person whose parents “chose” to get her surgery and raise her as a boy because her external genitalia was closer to that of a male, and then years later she came out as a trans woman and is way happier. These surgeries shouldn’t be done on young children unless medically necessary, and should always be done with fully informed consent. Wild to me that trans adults can’t get gender affirming care without jumping through a million hoops while people are out here doing it to babies for primarily aesthetic reasons.
@@princessaria you really just said it's done for aesthetic reasons knowing it can become cancerous to them and they can die of osteoporosis and heart disease if they dont get the correct treatment. you think it's more important for healthy trans people to get the treatment bc they threaten to commit suicide
It still amazes me that it’s easier for a two year old intersex baby who can’t consent can get sex change surgery easier then a fully grown consenting trans adult
She didn't get a "sex change." She had nonfunctional gonadal streaks likely to turn cancerous and kill her removed, and the NORMAL levels of sex hormones for her biology restored. You're comparing giving someone born without a full limb prosthetic to amputating a healthy leg for funnies.
The person who created the model of care for intersex people did so as an experiment. It was highly publicised, and seen as a success at first: until decades later, the man came out and talkes about how horrific the experience was, and later committed suicide. That "doctor" ruined, at this point, millions of lives, and the medical industry STILL accepts this method even though it was proven to be harmful to the kids ages ago. David Reimer, the child that was experimented on, died in 2006.
Wild how people won’t let teens take hormones because they’re too young but will also make a 2 year old have surgery to appear as whatever sex the parent wants to “fix” them
I don’t know any intersex nor am I intersex but it blows my mind that they can do this, no warnings no risk evaluation nothing just “yeah we’ll go in snip it a bit maybe add a few stitches over then and not tell u” like what?
@@TIRENZARI they do this all the time to intersex people and they have forever and often the parents just project whatever they want on the child for their gender expression so the child never gets to express exactly what they want along with having extremely invasive procedures which can cause permanent damage to their genitalia cause pain, infertility, and issues with going to the bathroom. I've heard a horror story where they did a procedure involving the vaginal canal which made them unable to have a sexual relationship ever in their life because the scar tissue was so significant.
You want to have cancerous gonadal streaks? I don't know if this girl is clueless or just begging for attention, because she is portraying life-saving treatment as something questionable. She didn't describe a vaginoplasty or anything like that but the bare minimum to keep her from dying young.
Dude the way doctors were deciding on gender for intersex babies is looking at their genitalia and asking what it looks more like, and performing surgery to make it look just like whichever. Parents weren't told. And it was just a guess. On a newborn. A lot of people push for functionality now and think it's wrong to choose for them. If they can pee and function then leave them alone. Ironically it's the anti trans people who don't like surgical transitions that push the hardest for these "gender affirming" surgeries on newborns.
I can't even think of a scenario where being intersex would harm someone physically, so why do such an invasive procedure at such a young age? It seems like the desire to keep everything in a binary is so strong that people will give their toddlers surgeries to "correct" it. You'd think since trans people have to go through therapy and a very slow process to get any form of surgery, that young intersex people would be offered the same.
There are some occasions where it’s harmful, like if they don’t have a hole to use the bathroom from, or if they menstruate without an opening for it to leave through, but most of the time it’s just to make them “normal” sadly and it’s disgusting. No one, transgender intersex or otherwise, should be able to get surgery like this as a literal toddler unless it is absolutely medically necessary. It’s so weird how letting a trans child choose to go on completely safe and reversible puberty blockers after jumping through tons of medical hoops to do so is seen as “grooming”, but doing unnecessary sex reassignment surgery on literal babies is fine just because they’re intersex
@@SystemError1466 there's no long-term study on puberty blockers. I think it should be something an adult does not children. How many people are detransition after surgery. The suicide rate of pre and post op trans is more or less the same too. So doing it does not have a good savings effect.
@@chrisfriday7666 The FDA have approved puberty blockers for use in children since 1993. Adults cannot take puberty blockers, adults have already gone through puberty. That is the point of blockers, to delay things like voice lowering or breast growth until the child is old enough to decide. There are rare side affect, but that goes for any drug. My adhd medication I went on at 14 is more dangerous than puberty blockers. Detransition rates are at 1% of the trans population, which means that 0.0001% of the worlds entire population will detransition, it just makes a good headline so it looks more common than it is. Post-surgery satisfaction rates for trans people are around 93%, and there is a 73% decrease in suicidal ideation for trans people who receive gender affirming healthcare. As a trans adult who was almost a dead trans kid, please listen to us when we say that being able to access this healthcare saves millions of lives, and that the most important lives it saves are children’s lives.
Gonadal streaks are what should have been ovaries (in men testes). If they fail to fully develop, they typically become cancerous and kill you. That's what was removed.
Our governments are blocking trans surgeries done with explicit consent but continuously put in special parameters to allow these traumatic surgeries to happen to intersex kids. all they value is conformity, don't let them tell you otherwise
Not only that many doctors will pressure parents into doing these surgerues to make their kids "normal" or pressure them into putting their intersex children on hormone therapy that alligns with what they look like the kost externally
@@Brxwn9 just want people to accept who they are, gender is biological. Intersex is just a garbage they made up. The gender identity ideology/ lgbtq is just a religion and nobody has to believe in it. It is there own choice.
Wow. Holy shit. They try to erase people who don’t fit into their worldview in every way possible. Intersex people DESERVE TO KNOW what’s happening to them!!
Im literally at a loss with some of these comments lmao. People really think Intersex is a myth or an "excuse" to be trans. The fact they are being shamed for surgery and hormones forced upon them is ridiculous.
I think they don’t understand because it goes by the name intersex now and they are used to the old term that is now sometimes seen as derogatory or offensive to some. They also don’t understand because it’s not happening to them or anyone around them (that they know of). My mom had a Cousin (distant I believe) who was born and raised as a girl. It was not until puberty and later into the teen years that they figured out “she” was actually a he. He wasn’t technically intersex, but his genitalia did not drop like it should have so it appeared that he was a female at birth. He ended up writing a book and going on Oprah. I wish I could remember his name. I was so intrigued by this story when my mom told me about it when more and more people in the world started openly talking about LGBTQ issues especially trans issues. I’ll have to ask her about him again.
We exist and it was hidden from me and found out myself . It's been a hard road and now I realise society can't accept and that's probably why my mum never spoke to me about it or couldn't. I'm not lgbtq, I was raised as mail but I had to work everything myself and remember things about my childhood. I was given tablets as a child , but growing up I remember other kids would ask if I was male or female
this is the biggest strawman argument I see on practically every intersex video. kids don't see other kid's genitals outside their immediate family, and sometimes not even then. they'd have no way of knowing a peer was intersex. and many intersex people's genitals look completely normal, it's their chromosomes that are mismatched to their primary and secondary sex characteristics. people are so brainbroken
Every time I here this stuff, I’m appalled. I can’t imagine having a child just to mutilate them. Oh, my child is intersex? Guess we’ll have to raise them a bit more carefully and therapy will probably be a must. And we’ll have to talk with schools about bathroom situations. Never once would I have thought about mutilation. How does a parent choose mutilation over raising a happy, healthy person??? It disgusts me.
and trans kids are "being groomed" because they want to where certain clothes and play with different toys.. yet parents are allowed to do this to children????
Don’t ever compare delusional fame hungry parents to parents who do what they thought was best! Trans community never talk about intersex because there situations are facts, the agenda is more about brainwashing children! The fact that the message you getting from this is fkn crazy!! Y’all destroying everything lgbtq community work for! To break stereotype of pink blue dress code , kids can play with any toy no matter their gender, but now y’all see girl play with a car that means she identify as a boy!
It's always shocking to me when intersex people talk about the secrecy surrounding the surgeries they often get as kida! Imagine having any other kind of surgery where it's like "yeah we're not really sure the details of the before and after" 😲
These types of surgeries actually cause MORE harm to the child, the docters even pressure the parents into getting the surgery even though it can not only lead to mental health problems, but also physical health problems, is you want more you can look up what health problems happen when doctors preform surgery’s on intersex babies
The amount of people who have no idea what these 2 are even talking about, but still feel the need to shame this person is why I hope the world ends soon
Fucking mad that I get shown this now, I found out literally two days ago that I'm intersex and I was never told, I had a surgery when I was 1 to 'fix' me and that's all I know so far
When people bring up stuff about kids being bullied or whatever for being different and that being a reason to do surgeries I think a couple things: I dont think I ever saw the genitals of my classmates as a kid, so idk what yall were up to. There are many things about someones body that could result in bullying but we dont remove those. What, should we be doing surgeries on the faces of kids we think are too ugly? Should i have been put on puberty blockers to prevent me from being teased about my body changimg before other people's? Should someone with an extra digit have it chopped off just because? Should kids with dwarfism be, idunno, put on stilts? Its that logic that has historically led to people with any difference from autism to left handedness to be beaten until they acted sufficiently normal. And guess what, bullying still happened!
ok so when a kid is intersex it’s perfectly normal to perform life altering surgeries without their informed consent, but god forbid a child asks you to call them he instead of she.
It's abt what perpatrators want at the time. That's why other timws rhey will get kids to become transgender. Which is basically what they're doing when I hey cut off gentiaks before they know what's what and who the kid becomes.
It makes me so intensely angry that trans people have to fight for surgeries to make us feel at home in our bodies, while people say we're 'mutilating' ourselves and manipulating children into it as well, yet at the exact same time many of those same people are completely fine with forcing this kind of procedure on not just children but INFANTS because they feel that they are FIXING THEM. It's never been about us mutilating our bodies, it's never been about protecting children, it's only ever been about forcing others into conforming to what they feel is right and correct.
This is the exact type of thing I want the transphobes to learn about. Intersex people are so interesting and have zero choice what they're born with. Learning about them helps open the door for tolerance and acceptance and eventually advocating for the acceptance and love of everyone.
That's so invasive and awful! I'd hate not knowing what's been done to my body. I didn't even know that information could be kept a secret from the patient 😢
Thats fucking terrible. Imagine being the surgeon to do that surgery - you're not "fixing" anything, unless something is an actual threat to the quality of life of the child. You're just giving them insecurities and trauma in the future, and possibly making their life more difficult if they wind up presenting differently
I cannot fathom letting them operate on my child without knowing exactly what was happening! ( My son was born with a cleft lip and palate, I found out at my 5 month ultrasound, and by the time he had the surgeries I knew so much I'm convinced I could perform them myself lol not really but you get what Im saying!)
I was almost diagnosed as intersex at birth because my genitals looked 'weird' to the junior doctor who was shadowing the actual doctor. Thats how easy it would’ve been to get a diagnosis and 'treatment'. Meanwhile I've been on a waitlist for four years now to even be acknowledged as something I and everyone who knows me knows that I am. The system is so fucking broken
Wow that's fascinating! Do they know what causes certain traits to develop like more breast tissue and poor facial hair? Considering with two Ys I'd imagine it would go the other way. That's really cool - I hope it never caused you too much trouble :)
@@XxFluffyxX genetic conditions from XYY are things like taller stature, less muscle, lower metabolism, higher chance of obesity, and bad coordination skills. And also, this doesn’t really cause me much trouble at all! It helps people to learn about conditions the never knew before!
Everyone’s screaming about “mutilating trans kids” with gender affirming treatments, but it’s more than acceptable to mutilate intersex babies without their input or consent. Make it make sense.
@@-mikhailo- that's the abuse tho...they have no idea what kind what kind of mental strain that is going to put on that poor child all these things can wait till they are at an age of consent
I actually was never told and would hear my mum talk to people, my dad hated me or what I was, as I grew up I didn't understand but my childhood was traumatic. Even now it messes my head up and don't know how to go about it. I wish I could meet people like me and actually speak. As an adult "male" I've faced a lot that many would have killed themselves. I don't know why my mum could not sit down and talk to me about it. It's painful and I do not wish my life on anyone.
Thats the norm, they explain the bare minimum and thats it, some people will go their whole childhoods not knowing they are intersex because their parents just wont bother telling them, then they get to adulthood and find out that some of the health issues they've been struggling with their whole lives couldve been helped by hormone treatment but because the hormone that helps isnt the hormone associated with the sex they where assigned they suffered needlessly for years. I know one person who is a trans man he only recently discovered he was intersex and was actually made to go through hormone therapy as a child without knowing to increase his estrogen levels, and now that hes on testosterone the health problems hes struggles with his whole life are going away he doesnt need his medical allert and mobility service dog almost ever anymore because his symptoms are just gone all because when he was born his external genitals most resembled that of a baby girl. While investigating this hes discovered one of his ovaries is extremely atypical and his specialist suspect it may actually be closer structurally to a testicle than an ovary and could explain why he has dealth with extreme abdominal pain during his cycle and that an increase in testosterone could(and has) help with that
@Ash Rowan thats so fucking awful! Now I don't want my original disbelief to sound like "that doesn't happen!" Disbelief, but I can't imagine what goes through these fucked up "doctors" heads and how scared and confused these parents are to let it happen thinking they're doing the best for their child
If i have a child, i promise to accept them the way they are. Pushing them into a carrier they dont want to is smth i would never do, forcing them to wearing what i want or not adressing them by chosen name is an unnesessary battle i wouldnt chose, forcing them to write with right hand if they are left handed is as pointless as invasive, so I wouldnt do that. I wouldnt try to force them to be regular and judge fish by their ability to climb tree if they are neirodivergent or otherwise special, i would love my child the way they are and help them accomodate into the world the way they are without trying to change them. And of course changing their body with surgery because it doesnt fit into most common two types, without their awareness and consent is outright unthinkable to me. How much do you have to value your comfort over your child's wellbeing. How much you are not able to accept them. Rare doesnt mean wrong, even tho its considered so in our culture rn. We should get over ourselves and stop "fixing" infants to our liking, this is so grim and gross and traumatic to them.
There needs to be a call for gaining and delivering more information for people that have any kind of surgery. Especially a sexual surgery. No one should ever go through surgery without as much information as possible.
Some doctors are finally starting to move away from traditional "flip a coin" treatments. The change is starting to happen, but it's going to take a very loooong time!
It's less medical and more social. Most of these surgeries are pointless and do more harm than good, but they make the kid seem "normal," so they are done anyways. If someone is born with "abnormal" sex characteristics, society sees them as freaks.
“We will do something, you are not allowed to know what, we will shame you if you say no” is a classic move honestly, a certified cis het moment you could say
Why does it have to be so taboo? Intersex people have a human body with an interesting mix of chromosomes. It shouldn’t have to be a traumatic experience for patients.
Parents allowing invasive surgery that could potentially do a lot of harm to their intersex child .. all because they see it as something that needs to be changed is mind boggling.. same for parents who allow any kind of surgery for trans kids who are minors .. including puberty blockers .. we should be encouraging our children to accept and love their bodies even if they dont feel it straight away.. esp at such a vulnerable age when everything is changing..
New to the subject but what's really mind blowing is the fact this has been going on since the 60's and anywhere from 1 to every 150-1000 babies doctors and parents are making alot of decisions
so terrifying that this is legal. to operate on a patient who very obviously can’t consent, for no reason other than yours trying to mold them to fit your view of the gender binary. i’m going to be honest.. i’ve always suspected i could possibly be intersex. when i was younger, i had a weird assumption that i had had a penis at one point, but it had been removed and put into a box on my mom’s dresser. and when i was 11, i had to be put on spironolactone because of a hormone imbalance. it made me absolutely miserable and gave me more feminine features (which i dreaded). i’ve always been curious, if it was really “just a hormone imbalance” or not.
It's obv super messed up that the doctors weren't transparent about everything done during the surgery, but I would like to point out that removing gonadal streaks in xy females is one of the few necessary intersex surgeries bc they have a VERY high risk of turning cancerous
Many people don't realise what a huge range of conditions fall under the umbrella of intersex. Most people still don't understand that being intersex and being trans are two different things.
It’s interesting that people are against consenting trans people transitioning but the moment a baby is born intersex they choose to medically ‘fix’ these people usually without their consent.
Yes. Everyone has the right to their own body and story. The unknown and what is lost to history by decisions others made for us can be extremely traumatizing. Same thing can happen with adopted children. Having part of your identity thrown away without your consent is awful.
Just want to tell yall the examples of Intersex So a baby was born, looking like a girl but having a male organ They could born with both male and female, but it's rare
Hmm, I’m not sure what the right answer is but my gut tells me it would be more ethical to wait until the child is more cognizant to alter their body. Then again, the surgery/ treatment is probably less successful the farther you get from birth.
Maybe, they also said in the full video that scars don't stretch like normal skin so they had to get surgeries quite often because it was done at such a young age.
i agree, it does depend though. like what they were describing in the video, gonadal streaks, have to be removed because they can become cancerous later on. still, though, they have the right to at least be aware of every surgery they had as a child. it would be really scary not to know what, if anything, has been done to your body.
With these surgeries, you can wait until the gonadal streaks actually cause issues to remove them with little problem. The internal scar tissue is more harmful to a child. But like the person here said, they have no idea what else was done to them during the surgery, so it's possible they also altered their genitalia to make it more "normal" looking. Which is something the individual should have the right to choose, just like any other aesthetic surgery (mole removal, breast reduction/increase, dental, cleft lips, ect)
At 12 years old, one is able to understand what's happening, so doctors should explain - in detail - what they are doing. And even if you say "that kid is to young", they should have explained it to the parents in a way, that they would be able to answer these questions... and shouldn't there be medical records?
Wow. Ive never thought about it but it makes sense that someone would only know as much as they were told. I wonder if they could make it standard procedure for the surgeons to write a full report for the child to read when they are older so that they can get all the relevant information from the source rather than relying on others to tell them what they think is appropriate or remember.
I worry about hormone replacements.. I have had cushings disease and adrenal disease.. and I've lived with too much hormones.. and now I live with too little and have to take oral steroids whenever I am stressed.. and messing with hormones can really mess you up.. not that I'm saying someone doesn't have the rights to do them. I've had fucked up hormones since I developed a brain tumor since I went though puberty.. I just worry. I've been dealing with this for twenty five years.. doctors are not good with hormone replacements.. I have to educate doctors, nurses, even emts who don't know anything about my adrenal diseases.. it's scary that doctors are using people's trauma and using them by doing surgery and giving hormones to kids and thinking it won't fuck up their natural hormone function.. which makes me want to cry for those going through all of this and I worry for them because I think doctors are using them as test subjects.. mine was due to a brain surgeries due to a brain tumor.. but having two brain surgeries I developed adrenal disease, I am not Trans or dealing with gender issues.. but as someone who's had to deal with hormones and hormone replacements it's a horrible thing to live with.. and you can really fuck up your own natural hormones messing with your hormones.. I mean people can do what they want but I worry about the problems that will happen..
It's not super uncommon for doctors to do these intervention without even informing *the parents*, there are a disturbing number of cases where parents were told their kids had tumors or some life-threatening condition and got their consent for surgical intervention on false pretenses, just because society has arbitrarily decided that being intersex is something to be "corrected"
I believe that children born with heart condition should be left alone surgery wise, stop trying to change people from their natural state. Not saying you point is wrong, but your argument for it is bad.
Yeah once they’re 18 then I think they should be able to decide on these kinds of procedures. Ig same with trans kids, like do everything else you can that won’t cause potential harm and when your a legal adult do whatever
Y wouldn't she ask her parents these questions like the Drs legally have to tell them those answers like I'd demand it because I live in this body what changes did they make to it....this poor woman
Because people who are the guardian/ parent the child/baby/Infant mostly want their child to have perfect genitalia, obviously not all guardians/parents do this but there's mainly a lot that do this.
@harris shob Holly shist this is the most L take you saw this very specific case and applied it to everyone I agree that people who are intersex should not be forced into surgeries without consent. However at a certain point when they are older they should have every right to chose what is done to there body if they want it. You saying this is part of the problem limiting the choices people like them get
I’m sorry but isn’t every surgery procedure supposed to be completely explained to the patient or at least the patient should be given a form that explains everything? That’s literally the law here in France and in I think all European countries ??
I found out at 12 i livd as boy hated it and then 14ci did get boobs natural already had periods abd bigger hips... my mother hated it... i loved it... docter talked with my mom for 4 minutes i only less then 5... and after i wasnt still alout tp b ed a woman... i hsve cptss and from that fibromyalgia💯 and now finally after long wauting i did go to hospital with my dad, my mom got wah off too esdy by suicide i hate her, she said told my dad but never did!!!!!
I am confused about the secrecy she mentions. Medical documents document surgeries to the last gauze that was used. With a request for information under Hippa she should be able to get it the documents if it was done in an american hospital.
Intersex surgeries done all the way up to the 90s and 2000s were incredibly hush hush about hospital resources as it was considered by many religious people to be shameful. Documents may have been destroyed as a result, and missing equipment is usually written off as misplaced. It’s not like today.
I work in Health Information Management, there's a limit to how long these records are kept. It varies by state, type of medical facility/service, and the age of the patient at the time. For this situation, since they had the surgery as a child, the record would have been kept for 5-10 years after they turned 18 (or 19/21 in a few states). Idk how old they are, but it's likely that their records are long gone.
why are people/society so so so so weird about gender and sex... to the point doctors wont even inform a patient what they're doing with their body....
Typically we don't know but people with the syndrome do typically have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures mostly. They just haveone each of one X and one Y. Though it just depends on the person with the syndrome/intersex condition.
When your parents follow the King and Queen of Erindale a little too seriously. "Conceal don't feel" yeah whats happened to my child in the surgery? Oh um mMm
ok now intersex that's horrible the parents just decide arbitrarily what sex to keep and they do the surgeries on a child so they were was XY so geneticly a man but somehow has some extra parts I imagine each case is different depending on the genetic sex and the cause of the intersex man they lost out on that easy strength/work out that all men enjoy
Sometimes I fear I am intersex. I have always been transgender and act feminine and even look more feminine, and my family has always hated on me for it, i have a very good suspicion that theres like a 40% i am intersex Eventually id like to know. It isnt even super rare either, only 1 in 400.
@@kayllenstarships9009No honey, it's not only about that. Some intersex people have a more "hidden" version of it where you present more as one of the sexes.
@@kayllenstarships9009 Gurl intersex Is an umbrella term it can mean physical attributes and it can also mean hidden attributes like chromosomes. People who can have more than 2 chromosomes like XXY, XXXY, XXYY or even Turner Syndrome can be classified as intersexed. Not everything is in black and white
in this person's case, she is a female with XY chromosomes. in general, intersex is an umbrella term that describes a variety of disorders that effects a person's biological sex and sex characteristics.
I dont know what's going on in this comment section. Everyone seems so ready to treat any comments not 100% in agreement as pure evil. Some of you need to learn to communicate better.
I FEEEEEEEL like she could just get a copy of her records. We live in such a litigious culture, that doctor had to make detailed notes. Even as a massage therapist I had to make very detailed notes.
"Intersex" means you were born with sex characteristics that do not fit into 'male' or 'female.' There is a wide variety of conditions that cause it, including various chromosome mix-ups (having xxx, xxy, xyy, ect) and hormonal problems (sometimes a 'male' with xy chromosomes does not receive the right hormones in the womb, causing them to develop as 'female'). It's very complicated, but basically it is a set of medical disorders!
So many of you are missing the point of these surgeries, it's to help make sure the baby grows up in the healthiest way available. There is no changing them to be "normal", or fixing them. If you wait on these things, they have the potential to become harmful to the body because it literally wasn't made to handle that type of anatomy. It's best to have things resolved as soon as possible, so they don't literally die. This shouldn't be a trans ethic issue, but somehow people seem to completely be blindsided by it.
I get what u mean but it's also dangerous to give them surgeries, scar tissues doesn't stretch and as a kid, growing with that your skin will constantly tear and youll always have surgeries. It's better to wait for them to grow. Than they can also give their own opinion on the surgery. Not to mention the stress/ just not knowing anything about the surgery and what's going on can be super dangerous, harmful stress is the 15th most killer yaknow.
