Marine reacts to SAS raid on Pebble Island 

HMS Hermes was actually a Centaur class aircraft carrier form the mid to late 1950's, after the RN got rid of her she served with the Indian Navy as INS Viraat and only decommisioned in 2017

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Europe was neutral, except France sold Argentina Exocets, I think through a third party

@@jeremyp966 France supplied Exocets to Argentina, pre-Falklands campaign (don't forget that most Argentine warships were ex-Royal Navy, so the UK had also supplied weapon systems to Argentina). Orders for for the supply of more Exocets had already been signed, however, the French Government ensured that they were NOT delivered, ensuring that every 'stalling' and 'delaying' technique possible was used to prevent delivery of a legally contracted order.

The US was planning to offer a carrier platform but Royal Navy and US Navy ships have many differences in the way they are operated so the obstacles, chiefly finding enough crew and training them in time, were considered too great.

Great respect to anyone on Glamorgan at that time. I was in gib plugging gaps and preparing the 2nd taskforce from Gibraltar and eastern Mediterranean.

That's hilarious 😂

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I was Glam too, remember it well

Thats fantastic 😂

Bo Nidle He is superb. Well researched. Great comment.

The channel "Liveth For Evermore: Military History" Is also REALLY good.

The guy is a legend.

@dustisdeadbodies85 could not agree more

As soon as I heard the intro, I knew it was going to be a good reference point.

I fanboy over the Gurkhas.

@@Dakarn why wouldnt you lol

As a former Londoner,who has lived in the US for nearly 21 yrs(and in Nov 2011 I became a Naturalized US Citizen) now my simple point is within a population of 340 Million,spread around 50 States,(11 of which are larger than the UK,Alaska is 7 times larger,Texasx2 and Cali 1.5)u will find a diverse population(good&bad of course )And u can always meet good guys like this(some can be a little naive&badly informed,but are usually willing to listen). So don't buy into the images u see in the MSM which at present are very "Anti American"👍

@@jerryoshea3116 oh, I didn't mean it as a back handed compliment mate. I don't know what MSM means sorry.

@@jerryoshea3116 the world is bananas as per usual...the only difference is people are starting to notice lol

So did the Soviets. It was a shock to them that not only did we go, we won. They had to rethink their strategy after that. If we were going to o that 7000+ miles from home, what would we do if they (Soviets) upset us in our own backyard.

it might be impossible for american army but not british army

I doubt the US Navy said that. The US urged the UK not to fight. The USN knows how to take over small islands, they did it plenty of times in the Pacific. For the USN to say it's impossible and having done it multiple times themselves seems unlikely

Maggie thatcher said hold my beer.

@@xfatsx1991 The USA have done anything as remotely difficult or brave as the Falklands War.

Not really, he knows some stuff but has an unhelpful habit of over embellishing true stories or repeating stuff that boils down to "some guy said in the pub" with little to no evidence behind. He doesn't double check a lot of basic facts and has made numerous errors.

Need help

Less unknown? They even call it SAS Rogues Drift!

You would be surprised how many battles the sas had in Oman and Yemen that were like the 1 you mentioned around that time

Paddy was still 2ic, David was the top dog

Ken Jones - not that it did him much good in PoW camps. Didn’t he end up in Colditz?

Paddy Mayne was the most decorated soldier in the British Army , was a highly educated solicitor from Newtownards , N Ireland , also played Rugby for the British Lions , touring S Africa , books about him include , “ Colonel Paddy “ and “ Rogue Warrior “ think there was another one , all worth a read ,

Paddy was also an utterly mental bastard with some severe internal demons. He battered his friends on more than one occasion. Still as a leader and soldier he was incredible - the right man at the right time

@@Spookieham I read about one of the SAS soldiers serving along side him about Paddy Maynes' mental state: he would laugh at a joke you had just made, and then punch you full in the face a few seconds later for no reason at all.

Where just total fucking animals when comes to sf units love this shit

Na look at the state of the country right now, good thing im scottish

@@brian8861 scottish is British. Don't you have schools in scotland?

@@brian8861 Last time I checked Scotland was in the UK!

@@s.j.l.8736 thats not what i meant but yeee...

There is rumour that Mrs T asked to "borrow" an American carrier but as mentioned, we only had the 2 (would have been 3 if Atlantic Conveyor hadn't been sunk)

@@g8ymw I've heard the rumour that the US was prepared to offer the loan of a USN flat top but not that the UK govt had asked, personally I dont think it happened. Atlantic Conveyor was a merchant ship not a carrier.

@@geekicusmaximusben9650 That's why I put it in quote marks. It was a container ship but could fly off Harriers, certainly helicopters (all but one Chinooks went down with her hence ""The Great Yomp")

The US were involved in diplomatic discussions very early on. When it came to the use of armed forces, the US absolutely refused to assist the UK in anyway. The US had strong trade relations with Argentina and had no desire to jeopardise that. We were on our own! Our (un)friendly neighbours...France...were assisting the Argentinian forces by allowing the sale of exocet missiles to them. We got our revenge on the cheeky buggers for that! Too long to explain here but I'm sure you can find the story if so motivated.

i thought the argentines had an american carrier

Defo ✌🏻

Coming soon!

Combat Arms Channel looking forward to that my man 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@@CombatArmsChannelyou must research the battle of mirbat, Oman. 9 SAS holding a small compound against 400 soviet equipped rebels. Its wasn't well published because it was a black ops , amazing story . Think Rorkes drift , but the Zulu have AK47s

Yesss looking foward to that thankyou 👍💋 ....i was 10 years old and still remember watching it on TV with my mum....bloody amazing.

Agreed

Best bit Army Commandos no Marines were Commando trained at the time not untill 1942

Possibly marine gunners on the ship's none on the raid ashore !

Neil Frater I didn’t mention Royal Marines.

The VC episode is good too 👌

To be honest, I heard a lot about the Falklands but a year ago, I couldnt even say what decade it took place in. Good to learn about things eventually

@@CombatArmsChannel 100%, I'm half American and only very recently learned about the full extent of the Vietnam war, better late then never 👍

Haha well I'm happy to hear

Do a video on PG tips commercials :D

@@CombatArmsChannel, try Yorkshire Tea, far better brew!

First time the SAS were seen working publicly. Not something you forget in a hurry

@@juneoconnor4503 It was the operation that made the SAS as famous as they are today, little people new about the SAS before that.

@@hendy9380 I live somewhere that knew but didn't know :)

@Phillip Green Already follow him , interesting stories.

I can remember watching it live in real time. I can still remember the SAS throwing the stun grenades/grenades in through the balcony windows.

you must understand that the krelin [USSR] were waching the falkland war, the falkland war may have had an inpact with the ending of the cold war

@@garyford3533 I don’t see why that has anything to do with my comment I’m just thanking him

Yea my Dad was Military police and was attached to 2 para during the Falklands the Paras used my dad to carry some heavy equipment due to his size lol

It's ironic that and coincidental that Sterling's famed raids on German airfields in the desert to knock out enemy's air support was exactly the same mission 40 years later....

Probably true about the Type 45. The big issue is would it have managed to get there with their chronic engine problems?

I'd like to think the 45 has that kinda ability, they're £1bn a go

@@T-1001 Yes, the problem was heat, not the cold of the South Atlantic.

T1000 Yes, the problems occur in warm weather, plus they’re getting engine upgrades as we speak.

@Stopthewar Taylor Yes,that's the SAS.

The feeling I always got was that they would do what other people wouldnt. They already had reasonable fieldcraft. Everyone within the unit was responsible for the job. In general they always recce'ed well using their own men

If you watch 'sas, are you tough enough' with Eddy Stone..... ye its pretty crazy. Or his comments on 'hard routine'.... basically sitting in a hole for 3 weeks, leaving NOTHING behind (so you know what goes into bags and bottles), cold food etc. They ran out of food so they ate coffee creamer in water......

The sas where he first of there kind anywhere

If your crazy you would not get in the SAS. Fit motivated smart and never give in you have a chance, just hope you have a body built for rough treatment.

The Scots Guards were up against the best troops the Argentines had on the Islands, the 5th Marine Infantry Brigade, who were well dug into prepared positions on Tumbledown. The Scots Guards took them with superior training, discipline and aggression at the end of fixed bayonets. The Scots Guards lived up to their proud traditions that day.

SBS were there too.

That was PF/X Troop not SAS iirc

Britain Refused the American carrier as they were unabe to man it.

@@glynnewilson3559 Britain refused the aircraft carrier because it would have compromised US relations with South American countries . President Reagan offered US crew to man it with just British Aircraft and aircrew .

@@glynnewilson3559 we could have at the time but to get familiar with all the systems would have taken time and we use V-tol aircraft whereas the use carriers used sling systems

@@mikecaine3643 It was because of the US fear of South American countries letting the USSR in, that it was agreed between the British and US that the UK wouldn't bomb Argentina. If the UK had been able to do that, it's very likely that the air threat to the RN would've been reduced dramatically and they wouldn't have lost so many ships.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!

Richard Collyer 9 SAS against 200/300 Adoo Guerrillas... its been said the SAS stopped the battle halfway so the Adoo could regroup & enlist more guerrillas to fight as they were outnumbered by the SAS..🤣

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Hope it was PG Tips, I see a packet on the brew table.

@@michaeldicker4839, PG Tips is awful, try Yorkshire Tea and I'm a Welshman!!

@@davidhumphreys7035 +1 for Yorkshire 👌

@@davidhumphreys7035 Yorkshire tea is total piss. I bought it due to peer pressure... Never again!

...and bomb aiming and navigation techniques developed in the Second World War. All on a round trip of 12,200km. An amazing story. They struggled to find parts to get the 30 year old aircraft operational. I think they even recycled an air refuelling flange being used as an ashtray in the officers mess.

The Avro Vulcan Bomber design wise is about the same age as the B-52 . The 4 Vulcans involved were mk 2s built in 1960 so had been in sevice for 22 years and about to be scraped before the operation. XM607 reserve aircraft for the first mission became the first Vulcan to drop a bomb in anger.. the mission was at the time the longest bombing run ..

And then remember how scared the Argentinians must have been after realising we could do that sort of thing using a bomber that was designed to drop a nuke...

@@233Deadman The rumour was at the time, they were crapping themselves at the thought of the Argentine mainland being the next target....of course they were completely oblivious to the logistical difficulties. They just felt it could happen...

It was cancelled because the recce mission failed.

Helicopter Got lost , crashed on a beach and had to extract to Chile. Argentine found the burnt out helo and went banzai

PG's drinkable but Yorkshire Tea is best. M&S Gold is good too.

Is that so. How did you find that out?

Has to be Yorkshire

Hes made a mistake. Yorkshire tea all the way haha 👍

He made big mistake, Britain asked the mighty USA if they were allowed go to Argentina, Britain was let go.

Some of those sheep lost their lives and were awarded the Mint Sauce Cross.

I've drunk with some of those sheep.

@Dan Beech So every single statue erected before about 1970 then? Fuck that.

@Dan Beech You're welcome to come and have a go at the statues in our town. I don't think it would go well for you though, we're not Bristol.

It didn't work. They missed the runway but the Argies quickly made earth craters across the runway in line and spacing with the laid down stick outside the runway. Which is why the post raid recce imagery confirmed to the Brits that the bombing was a success. A long way to go to then not hit the target.

@@tomrounds a long way to go with limited fuel, numerous failures on a soon retiring aircraft and old bombing sights and equipment. And it was a success, because even though the majority missed, one bomb hit the main runway, and stopped the Argentine aircraft from taking off using that runway. Learn your history to it's fullest extent before making silly claims like that. The bombing raid was a success because it achieved the main aim to eliminate Argentine use of the airfield

Tom Rounds . Maybe far more important than simply hitting a runway was the psychological impact. It was a clear message that if we can bomb the runway on the Falklands we could also have hit mainland Argentina.

@@reklawazag If we went for mainland Argentina, that would turn a conflict into a war, a holy different kettle of fish.

I dont think the aim of the strike was mass destruction...it was a statement saying ' we can reach you if we want '.

You have to be extremely careful what you divulge in wartime. In WW2, the locations of V1 and V2 impacts were not to be revealed by the press. They were legally bound not to do so, as it would have alerted the Germans as to their targeting accuracy.......

You missed out the fuel tankers sent to Acension full of avgas and fuel oil. All on record

@@Spookieham Yep, my bad

To be fair the yanks gave us the latest Sidewinder missile, and they did help us with buying up the worlds arsenal of Exocet missiles so eventually the Argie's ran out of them.

Paul Gamble the SA80 (L85) was not in service until 1985......luckily for the British military, as it was utter junk on its introduction.

I thought they lost at least one? I recall reading about a Harrier pilot being lost....

@@Brian-om2hh I just checked the British navy sauces and there were no air to air losses ( none shot down by the Argentines ) but 6 were lost to malfunctions or accident.

It could be apochryphal but I've also read the signal to disengage and re-org was "ignored" several times before being acknowledged. They were having too much fun . Not an unlikely situation to be honest.

There was an ex USN brooklyn class cruiser "USS Phoenix" involved in the Falklands conflict. It was sold to the Argentinian navy and was renamed ARA General Belgrano. The rest as they say is history.

The Harriers were ours also

Hi, I joined the UK army infantry back in 1984 and was issued the SLR (cavalry were issued the SMG as personal weapon) tin hat and yes, the new combat highs (new thanks to lessons learnt in the Falklands conflict) We eventually got better combats with bigger pockets too due to lessons learnt in the Falklands. We were the first regt to be issued the SA80mk1 as were based in Colchester (tended to get alot of new items 1st, like clothing) Went to Wainwright, Albert, Canada in June 1987 to try the new weapon out on their ranges. That's when we learnt how powerful the weapon was as by the time we hiked the huge distances in the baking sun, tin plate targets were getting hit but not going down...ended up having to use two plates as one was registering getting hit due to its power! Also learnt how rubbish the bayonet was as snapped if hitting some hard object in the ground. The SLR 2as great for drill but a pain to use for left handed guys like myself. Also it certainly had a kick as my shoulder can validate! 🤨 Miss my time serving (19yrs) and wouldn't hesitate to do it all over 👍🏽 PS: my uncle was a high ranking officer (can't remember his rank) on the aircraft carrier, HMS Hermes during the Falklands conflict. He later went on to take command of US navy tug boats at either Southampton or Portsmouth...my memory is shot to pieces hence details ain't as clear as used to be. I wasn't even aware that there were US navy tug boats based in the UK 🤷🏽‍♂️

100% Agree just watched the series.

And northern Ireland. I think you're talking about PW aka 'Snapper'. He's in this and mentions Oman and N.I. as well as the I.E. Siege and more 'hush-hush' actions. 'Legendary' doesn't do him justice - ru-vid.com/group/PLF26E9E2C0DD4FD98 BTW, this doc is about 45mins and I think it's the best their is about the SAS in general.

@@brandonshaw2120 Yep. His name only came out some years after the book

And gpmgs.

I’ve met Pete skinner who was at Mirbat. He tells a good story about it

I think the last thing on the SAS's mind was nibbling on a slice of Cheddar. Many Argie artillery spotters, and guys in forward supply positions were often found with a red ring round their neck after an SAS patrol has passed by during the night.

It's like a toy that can turn violent super quick lol