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Mario Kart Items: How Have They Evolved? 

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Mario Kart is one of the most beloved game series around. It pioneered a whole subgenre thanks to its item design. The series has had 30 years of little tweaks to its item system that have added up to big changes. Let's take a tour of the 8 mainline Mario Kart games, look at their item design, and see how Nintendo has made something both accessible and timeless.
Featuring:
Super Mario Kart
Mario Kart 64
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Mario Kart Double Dash!!!
Mario Kart DS
Mario Kart Wii
Mario Kart 7
Mario Kart 8 and 8 Deluxe
There are a billion items in some of the arcade games, maybe that'll be a future episode.
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@DesignDoc
@DesignDoc 11 месяцев назад
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@xt3100
@xt3100 11 месяцев назад
you can dodge the blue shell in DS with a mushroom. But the timing is strict
@LucenProject
@LucenProject 11 месяцев назад
@@xt3100 Surprised this wasn't mentioned.
@chaosky9
@chaosky9 11 месяцев назад
@designDoc you might want to look at dodging blue shells in DS i managed to mushroom boost to dodge one in 1st once. It might be frame perfect.
@cisi334
@cisi334 11 месяцев назад
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@adroduke5052
@adroduke5052 10 месяцев назад
Dont even need a mushroom, you can just mini turbo out of your way if a blie shell, it's so easy in ds with right kart that is
@Ghi102
@Ghi102 11 месяцев назад
I always disliked the change to the fake item boxes. They should blend in with the existing item boxes, not be obviously fake
@amberhide04
@amberhide04 11 месяцев назад
Truuue, they're basically glorified banana peels at that point
@Comrade-Doggolover
@Comrade-Doggolover 11 месяцев назад
Well if you’re focusing on trying to stay ahead and going fast you’re not gonna have much time to realize if it’s fake
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 11 месяцев назад
Maybe they can maybe have a slightly different order of color change and the inverted question mark to make it more different but shouldn’t be that noticeable, the red should only be there for like 3cm before crashing into the fake item box.
@Iinneus
@Iinneus 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, I liked how they looked in DS, but there's the whole bottom screen thing... ...making fake items boxes red was absolutely insane, though. You will catch any player exactly one time when they say "oh what's the red box?" and then never again. Literally just banana peels. I never feel like I'm tricking anyone or playing with them in a cool way!
@karenstrife1260
@karenstrife1260 11 месяцев назад
​@@amberhide04Not even glorified. They're objectively worse than bananas because bananas can be used as protection against shells.
@billyweed835
@billyweed835 11 месяцев назад
I will forever defend the Blue Shell. It's annoying when you're in first, but catch up mechanics are vital to a fun kart racer. Making it so you can dodge it balances it enough that it managers to serve as the great equalizer it was meant to be.
@DesignDoc
@DesignDoc 11 месяцев назад
Agreed, bad catch up items are why I fell off of CTR:NF so hard. Front runners had almost nothing pulling them back with homing missiles and the blue orb being way too weak and blue fire boosting being too strong for those that know how to use it. Over half of the lobby couldn't even finish races online when I played.
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 11 месяцев назад
In a similar vein, the chain chomp from DD was relatively strong but fake item boxes passed right through it and broke the chain early. The core fun of a kart racer is being in the pack, you need ways to catch up and rejoin the chaos, and you need ways to pull leaders back into the chaos. This is also why i love tripple red shells, if you time them to have about 1 sec between then they will each cause a spin out instead of just the first. (Absolutely brutal to experience, absolutely amazing to inflict)
@megasoniczxx
@megasoniczxx 11 месяцев назад
@@DesignDoc Yeah, as much as I am a person who enjoys CTR more than MK normally, I don't think that game was ever made with casual races with friends in mind and I think NF only made it worse by making Blue Fire such a prominent mechanic. It makes me appreciate just how fine the balance between player skill and luck are in this series cause I don't think ANY kart racer has managed to get it as right as MK has.
@kerred
@kerred 11 месяцев назад
I would love to see Metrics from Nintendo if people join online serves with a toggle for Blue Shell on or Blue Shell Off. would love to see the popular vote decide.
@EWOODJ
@EWOODJ 11 месяцев назад
It was good in MK64 and MKSC because it aimed, I repeat, *aimed* for other racers ahead of the one who threw it. DD, DS, and Wii made it only a hindrance for first and didn't really help those much further behind. 7 and 8 improved upon that. But it's still useless for the one who threw it.
@DarkSamus288
@DarkSamus288 11 месяцев назад
One thing that I noticed as a kid was that the blue shell from 64 had two purposes. The first is obviously homing into first place. The second function is quite unique. If you hold it behind you instead of launching it, it'll actually act like an infinite shell. No matter how many items hit it, the blue shell won't disappear.
@FelicityUwU
@FelicityUwU 11 месяцев назад
That's actually really neat
@Green24152
@Green24152 11 месяцев назад
so first has an actual use for the funny exploding shell
@pnut3844able
@pnut3844able 2 месяца назад
Is that just on N64?
@DarkSamus288
@DarkSamus288 2 месяца назад
@@pnut3844able yes. To the best of my knowledge, MK64 was the only game in the series that did that. From Double Dash onward, the blue shell was airborne.
@N0-B0
@N0-B0 Месяц назад
@@DarkSamus288I believe the blue shell is the same in Super Circuit since in that game you can also hold it behind you
@Enrique_Gonzalez_
@Enrique_Gonzalez_ 11 месяцев назад
39:00 Oddly enough, the Blooper actually gets a noticeable buff in 2-Player local. Because the split screen is vertical rather than horizontal, the ink ends up covering closer to 75% of the screen which makes it much easier to run into shells or bananas. Still not great, but a step in the right direction imo.
@marioland3000
@marioland3000 9 месяцев назад
Better in 8/Deluxe where it also reduces your traction and steering abilities honestly. It's not too bad at 150cc or slower, but at 200cc it can absolutely make you fall off corners or hit the brakes harder to stay on track.
@karlispovisils5297
@karlispovisils5297 11 месяцев назад
Something you neglected to mention about Mario Kart 8 and 8DX is the significantly longer post-hit invincibility. This makes it much harder to get comboed by opponents. This also led to one of my best item plays ever. A common strategy in MK8 frontrunning is running into a banana or obstacle if you see a Blue Shell coming your way. One time when I was frontrunning in single player on GCN Sherbet Land, I was frontrunning and had lap 2 almost complete when I spotted a Blue Shell on the map. With a Banana Peel in my inventory, I strategically threw the peel at the starting line banner, which bounced off and hit me allowing me to tank the Blue Shell.
@pnut3844able
@pnut3844able 2 месяца назад
Not only that, but different setups have different invincibility times.
@stein46
@stein46 11 месяцев назад
I think it's kinda funny that the thundercloud was SO bad it is replaced in most modern MKWii modpacks, where instead of shrinking you, you get a mega mushroom
@pnut3844able
@pnut3844able 2 месяца назад
I loved it. It caused even more chaos
@tannereustace
@tannereustace 11 месяцев назад
This may be a hot take but I think MKWii's POW block is a very solid item because it forces your opponents to really think about their next move as the POW block appears on their screen and they have like 2 seconds to react. They may go out of their way to go off a ramp and be safe in the air, or they may purposely slow down at a turn to avoid crashing into a wall, meaning that they will have to accelerate back up. It's a nice way to give a weaker lightning to players in the middle of the pack
@DesignDoc
@DesignDoc 11 месяцев назад
Agreed. There's room for a weaker version of lightning. I like that it gives you time to react, causing you to suddenly change your strategy and it has great synergy with modern MK track design, giving small bumps and ramps more purpose. Would love them to bring back the POW and make lightning more rare. Either that or or give lightning a short animation before it hits like the POW would be nice.
@pretsal4955
@pretsal4955 11 месяцев назад
Also it prompts interaction, as those affected by the POW lose their items. If you're holding onto your items and have to use it suboptimally because of a POW, that feels way less bad than lightning. Plus it creates an ebb and flow with big item interaction points when a POW crops up.
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 11 месяцев назад
I feel like the player should have more control for when the pow block goes off by choosing when it shrinks/activates. Then they could use mind games and set it off early or later
@JosepiThe13th
@JosepiThe13th 11 месяцев назад
It’s one of the most strategic items for the player who has it too. Use it in the right spot and you can screw over a lot of the racers ahead of you.
@DesignDoc
@DesignDoc 11 месяцев назад
@@cosmicspacething3474 That's super interesting on paper but I'd need to see it in practice. The version I'm imagining, you could control it by causing it to go off between like 3 and 6 seconds.
@billylin8800
@billylin8800 11 месяцев назад
personally i'd love to see peach/daisy's double dash special come back: the protection hearts, i think it's well balanced between protecting you and then gives you two more items to play with once you hit them
@Pixelite_
@Pixelite_ 11 месяцев назад
The hearts return in Tour as a special but rather than two hearts that allow you to pick up items it’s a single heart that blocks any damaging item including lightning. They also don’t last forever and disappear after a certain amount of time so you can’t just be invincible in first place the whole race. The heart can be upgraded to have two hearts just like it’s DD incarnation though.
@azliaheaven2800
@azliaheaven2800 11 месяцев назад
them and their karts were my favorite version
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
No one will hit you though when they see it. For this item to be balanced you'd have to be unable to use items as well at which point it only protects you from bananas and other items blocking small paths.
@derpyface3602
@derpyface3602 10 месяцев назад
I kinda feel like the boo is already enough, because it steels times, and it makes you invincible for a little bit. I know they’re both slightly different, but I feel like one is already enough.
@ArcCaravan
@ArcCaravan 11 месяцев назад
I'd like to see the Bowser Shell (and maybe giant items in general) return as an alternative to triple items. Pretty fun using a big item that's more likely to hit something.
@augustolasta2468
@augustolasta2468 11 месяцев назад
Maybe they take more room up
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 11 месяцев назад
@@augustolasta2468 Mm - If they keep the two item slot system, having some items take up both slots would be an obvious way of innovating on that.
@ZMYaro
@ZMYaro 11 месяцев назад
@ArcCaravan I am really glad Tour brought them back. Hopefully that means they are at least being considered for the next console entry in the series!
@ZMYaro
@ZMYaro 11 месяцев назад
@@Stephen-Fox ​Ooh, I really like that idea!
@davidkonevky7372
@davidkonevky7372 11 месяцев назад
They should let every player pick a special big item before the race starts. That way we can recycle the specials idea from double dash but not making them character specific.
@alexfirefly1956
@alexfirefly1956 11 месяцев назад
I‘m pretty sure when you drop a Red Shell behind you in Super Circuit, it stays put in place and homes onto the next driver that drives closely past it
@Swqnky
@Swqnky 11 месяцев назад
The beeping sfx that plays when you're targeted is burned into my memory
@frogace55
@frogace55 11 месяцев назад
It does, basically working as a proximity Mine
@alexfirefly1956
@alexfirefly1956 11 месяцев назад
@@Swqnky yo, you’re right, I remember that xD
@alexfirefly1956
@alexfirefly1956 11 месяцев назад
@@frogace55 thanks for the confirmation, it’s been some years since I played the game last
@whoandgo
@whoandgo 11 месяцев назад
I missed that mechanic smh
@grfrjiglstan
@grfrjiglstan 11 месяцев назад
Really, whoever's idea it was to let you hold the items behind you deserves all the raises. It gives so many items much more depth.
@lorenzoniccoli99ln
@lorenzoniccoli99ln 11 месяцев назад
Completely wrong
@Wario1382
@Wario1382 11 месяцев назад
​@@lorenzoniccoli99ln🤡
@chenchestarze8207
@chenchestarze8207 11 месяцев назад
I think the main discourse on Blue Shells stems from the fact that in the earlier games, there were skill based ways to dodge one without an item. In DS, you can time a drift release to the apex of the Blue Shell’s circle animation to just barely skirt past it, but that’s really hard to do and nearly impossible to figure out for most casual players.
@frogace55
@frogace55 11 месяцев назад
Hell, In Super Curcuit, you could block a Blue Shell like any other item as lone as it was aiming for you
@kennyholmes5196
@kennyholmes5196 11 месяцев назад
There's also the last-second shroom technique.
@skavengerslayer
@skavengerslayer 11 месяцев назад
Well in n64, to counter a blue shell is a another blue shell.
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 11 месяцев назад
I mean, they are suppossed to stop first place players and avoid them from being so far away from second place. Nerfing Blue Shells further would just make the game so unbalanced.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
The fact the Blue Shell doesn't help the person who gets it is the biggest issue. An item which doesn't help the user and only hurt the person in 1st is terrible. There is no benefit for the people in 4th or further getting this item as 2nd or 3rd will benefit from this as you get hit by an item for using it and the person behind you uses their mushroom, star, red shell, lightning, or anything.
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 11 месяцев назад
The thing about 7 for me is that it's a perfectly good game that has absolutely no unique identity of its own, and where everything unique it does (Lucky 7 and underwater driving, I think?) are also in 8, meaning it's very difficult for it to be anyone's favourite Mario Kart. ...It's also the first time I actually purchased Mario Kart rather than occasionally playing it at a friend's place, so it has a bit of a special bit of nostalgia for me.
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas 11 месяцев назад
It's the first one I played (maybe it was Wii, but likely not), and the first one I played often before my 3DS was sold off (rightfully so, was a bit surprised but understanding)
@gboy5955
@gboy5955 11 месяцев назад
I like 7 but it brings points down for me due to it having no Vs mode at all. Like I want to play all the great stages out of order but can't and am forced to replay the repeated course pattern in grand prix to even play that game single player. :(
@XNDL44
@XNDL44 11 месяцев назад
Only unique thing I can think of is that it is the first Mario Kart to allow you t pick your cart by the body, wheels and glider. Also the glider physics were WAY better in 7 vs 8 Deluxe
@funtm7
@funtm7 11 месяцев назад
it also had the glider. and bee bee isn't in 8. mario kart 7 best game confirmed
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas 11 месяцев назад
@@funtm7 what do you have for the bee queen
@Micdades
@Micdades 11 месяцев назад
Items in Mario kart always feel great and understandable because of their association with their original counterparts. Compared to most other kart racers where the items are just generic rockets and such, which don't have much personality
@ArcCaravan
@ArcCaravan 11 месяцев назад
It feels like the joke about item Boo and King Boo falls flat when the king always has subordinate Boos around.
@QBTheInkling12
@QBTheInkling12 11 месяцев назад
39:03 The Blooper always had that effect of making the CPU skid around since DS, it's just the original Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U didn't have this effect so it's infinitely less useful there
@marioland3000
@marioland3000 9 месяцев назад
It did get another boon though against players, as in 8/Deluxe it makes karts more slippery and corner worse. This isn't too obvious at slower speeds, but if you're used to 200cc it becomes terrifying as you have to slam the brakes more to avoid sliding off the track completely. It can change your entire racing line in a way it couldn't before.
@StrawhatOrta
@StrawhatOrta 11 месяцев назад
Seeing how items have changed over the years got me thinking: how is the 1up mushroom not in the series yet?! They can make it a defensive item that can take one hit for you, but isn't immune to boos. Basically the hearts from double dash, but covers one hit only.
@DesignDoc
@DesignDoc 11 месяцев назад
I think the way the Mega Mushroom is handled in Tour is effectively what a "1up" would be.
@StrawhatOrta
@StrawhatOrta 11 месяцев назад
@@DesignDoc I didn't know that it came back on Tour. Never played it, but now I'm curious about any other items in that.
@cosmicspacething3474
@cosmicspacething3474 11 месяцев назад
Maybe it could be a passive item that can activate when you fall off a cliff, instead of being dragged up by lakitu, you’re instantly teleported back onto the stage and get a speed boost
@ZMYaro
@ZMYaro 11 месяцев назад
@@DesignDoc Or the Heart in Tour, which only takes one hit (IIRC).
@lowrngy
@lowrngy 10 месяцев назад
@@cosmicspacething3474 wait but couldnt you just voluntarily fall off the stage to get the speed boost? I’d much rather have an item that gives you a speed boost if you get hit by another item, but the protection doesn’t last a long time, meaning strategy is actually needed.
@reperfan4
@reperfan4 11 месяцев назад
There's a pretty significant bit you missed about the Red Shell in Super Circuit! When dropping it behind you it would still lock on to racers and chase them down. The difference is that one you dropped behind would instead target the next person to drive past it rather than whoever was in front of you. Basically, it was a banana that would chase you down even if you avoided it.
@DampWetstew
@DampWetstew 11 месяцев назад
I'll never forget Nintendo for not making the Super Horn a Yellow Shell. Considering in Mario World it gives Yoshi earthquakes and Koopa Troopas invincibility. It could have worked as a defensive item *and* cover all four shell types in World.
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas 11 месяцев назад
Okay but know this: in Mario Kart 8 & Deluxe, pressing the item button (L or ZL) without having an item will make you honk your horn, briefly playing a sound effect related to your character (and making nearby racers hop but that's not important) When using the Super Horn, you can faintly hear your regular horn sound beneath the main sound effect. Therefore, since using an item and honking your horn share the same button, you could infer that the Super Horn temporarily turns your horn into a deadly weapon, which I find to be a cute detail
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 11 месяцев назад
Yoshi causing earthquakes every time he hops or lands from a jump, would be my worst nightmare.
@DampWetstew
@DampWetstew 11 месяцев назад
@@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas out of all the 'kart racer invincibility items', Super Horn is much better than a generic bubble shield or something. It's got a charm to it. I just would have liked to see the whole set. :p
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas
@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas 11 месяцев назад
@@DampWetstew :)
@Aghul
@Aghul 11 месяцев назад
Double Dash was my entry into the series - I never owned the console myself, but my best friend did and we spent SO many afternoons just playing Double Dash for hours on end. It may be the memories of it, but to this day, it's still one of my absolute favorite entries in the series.
@taegancharles8336
@taegancharles8336 10 месяцев назад
I had a similar childhood, never owned it but my cousin had it and it was my first in the series too. we would also play it for hours. it has the best look and feels the most mario kart like in the whole series. plus the tracks just felt so unique with all the shortcuts that you could take. even if they werent much help they were still fun to do
@SamRegan610
@SamRegan610 11 месяцев назад
Please talk about Tour! Its item system is so interesting and different from the rest of the series, to the frenzies, the change to the mega mushroom, the way item boxes work, and of course the character-specific items
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 11 месяцев назад
I love how the special moves change when you upgrade them to a higher level
@SamRegan610
@SamRegan610 11 месяцев назад
@@moosesues8887 yes! It almost gives the game a progression system, which we’ve never seen before in the series
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 11 месяцев назад
Like Lego Racers?
@magolor-3100
@magolor-3100 11 месяцев назад
And it's the 9th mainline mario kart
@darkthunder301
@darkthunder301 11 месяцев назад
Real shame the red shell physics from MK Wii didn't return, breaking the shell by hugging the inner wall of a corner was sick as hell
@theAstarrr
@theAstarrr 11 месяцев назад
One thing to mention: the red shell behaves as a green shell when thrown backwards, it does not home in on the player behind you as some might think Edit: except Super Circuit
@redmagejohn
@redmagejohn 11 месяцев назад
Only exception is super circuit. It does drop on the track but the moment someone passes it. It homes after them. IMO the most broken red shell ever
@theAstarrr
@theAstarrr 11 месяцев назад
@@redmagejohn right
@flow185
@flow185 10 месяцев назад
@@redmagejohn I would say that but the broken ass redshell in ds that could hit you even when defended is something
@Tredenix
@Tredenix 11 месяцев назад
29:12 I actually am surprised they completely ditched the POW Block after just one game. The fact that it's reactable and has counterplay makes it much more palatable than lightning, and I had hoped they would somewhat combine them moving forward; such as by giving the lightning a quick start-up animation and/or sound effect that lets you account for it if your reaction time's good enough, for example. I also wasn't bothered by the Thundercloud that much, because I saw the merit in its risk/reward balance between passing it on to someone else for safety, or keeping it for the speed boost and trying to catch up with someone further ahead at the expense of possibly being shocked yourself. As for Mario Kart item stories, I have a great one from a few years back in an 8 Deluxe friend lobby. It's Toad Harbour, and I'd been trailing in 2nd all race, but I grab a double item from the last set and pull four red shells. A blue's just gone past, so once the explosion wears off I start firing my reds. But I'm also thinking that I really don't deserve to win off such a powerful last-second item pull, so I stop and turn around at the finish line, timing the last one so it'll hit after she's already passed it and taken first place with me following behind. What I didn't account for what that she'd see me stopping and turning around, _and slow down herself,_ meaning she doesn't get across the finish line and I barely squeeze in front. And so unless you know that was my intention, anyone watching a clip of that going down would probably think I'm gloating! And by "a clip of that" I mean it, it's at DarlingEndearingFishCmonBruh if anyone wanted to see for themselves :)
@SonicmaniaVideos
@SonicmaniaVideos 11 месяцев назад
Because it's so easy to react to...when you know what to do, all it ends up being is a item dropper. It resets everyone in the item department.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
The risk/reward of thundercloud only exists when other racers are near you... and they have an item and see you coming. This often makes you a free hit or renders you helpless. While if you get it and there is no one near...
@greninjamariokartpokemonfan
@greninjamariokartpokemonfan 10 месяцев назад
​@@SonicmaniaVideosAnd the Lightning does a much better job.
@gbx4858
@gbx4858 11 месяцев назад
I do kind of like the fake item box because of the fact it doesn't block items. I know that may annoy many people because they can't use it to defend themselves, but I find that creates an interesting dynamic in the games it appears in. It creates a more offensive item for 1st place that you have to use to slow down oncoming players, in addition to preventing 1st place from making as huge of a lead because they can't defend themselves with one, similar to coins in mk8. I don't think 1st place necessarily needs more defensive items, so having an offensive item can at least make things more interesting while in the lead.
@ZMYaro
@ZMYaro 11 месяцев назад
I did like that as a differentiator from bananas, but I think that was also why they removed it-because there wasn't a risk calculation of holding onto it defensively vs. using it offensively, people (in my anecdotal experience) are more likely to just toss it to free up the item slot than strategize with it.
@greninjamariokartpokemonfan
@greninjamariokartpokemonfan 11 месяцев назад
​@@ZMYaroAnother reason why they removed the Fake Item Box from newer games is that the item has gotten increasingly worse since its debut in 64. From Double Dash onward, it has become increasingly obvious to tell which one is the impostor. The Fake Item Box's intended purpose is to trick the player into thinking it's the real deal. While it does its job well in Mario Kart 64, it fails miserably in all future appearances.
@ZMYaro
@ZMYaro 11 месяцев назад
@@greninjamariokartpokemonfan That is somewhat true, though I think that is more a result of item boxes more frequently appearing in neat rows than the design of the fake item box itself.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 11 месяцев назад
It really isn't more offensive, you need to place it perfectly where an item box is. Any slight discrepancy and you've gotten an item worse then the coin. This means you lose an item to use it often times.
@gbx4858
@gbx4858 11 месяцев назад
@@Buglin_Burger7878 compared to bananas it is meant to be used more offensively, having a larger hitbox and higher hitstun at the cost of not being able to defend yourself with it. You don't even need to put it right on an item box, even on its own it serves as an obstacle you need to avoid, although I do wish they would make them look almost identical to regular item boxes like in 64.
@clayton_games
@clayton_games 11 месяцев назад
Correction: you CAN fire a homing red shell backwards in Super Circuit (kinda). When you place it down, it will remain stationary until another racer drives by, then it will sound off a couple beeps and then head straight for that racer!
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar 11 месяцев назад
The distance-based special item ratio sounds a lot better than previous games. I remember reading someone suggest having a Plunger item that acted as a grappling hook against the racer in front of you, slowing them and catapaulting you past them, or just letting you attach to them for a while like cargo. They also had an idea for something that created several illusionary copies of the user across the track, but that would be hard to balance with modern place-monitoring systems and AI drivers.
@therealslimweegee
@therealslimweegee 10 месяцев назад
I think the illusionary copy item they were referring to is the Double Cherry from Super Mario 3D World. In races, it wouldn’t work as well, but in Battle Mode it would work really well due to how that mode is structured.
@igorpuschner786
@igorpuschner786 11 месяцев назад
I'm so glad to see me and my friends aren't the only idiots that do "blue shells only" rounds. It's so hillarious!
@GameGod77
@GameGod77 11 месяцев назад
In terms of stories around items in these games, I will always remember the time I outran a blueshell in DS. Turns out you CAN avoid being hit if you hold onto a mushroom and use it at the last second just as the blue shell starts to come down and hit the track.
@bobbarksofficial4335
@bobbarksofficial4335 11 месяцев назад
Dude I'm still looking for that intro music it's so good!
@NaughtaNoob
@NaughtaNoob 11 месяцев назад
As someone who wants to make a kart racer (-ish) I adore this discussion on items in racing games. So yes, I'd enjoy a follow with the Mario Karts that don't exist. From what I've seen in the arcade game I played, too many and too superfluous. And admittedly, some of the Tour items are pretty good (only some, I'm looking at you "Super" bombs and banana barrels)
@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313
@justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313 11 месяцев назад
It's interesting how the Fake Item Box (which when abbreviated is "FIB", pretty interesting and something I literally *just* noticed while writing this) slowly went from looking like a legit Item Box to looking like an odd Item Box. Something I would've done to make the Fake Item Box more useful is make it give items *negative* effects by running into it. You still lose speed after hitting it, but now the item you have suddenly doesn't work like normal. Interesting tidbit about Mario Kart 7. Both the Fake Item Box and Mega Mushroom have item IDs mean they were either leftovers from Mario Kart Wii or were actually planned to be in the game. CTGP-7, a mod for Mario Kart 7, adds back these unused items (on top of adding new courses and playable characters) and makes the Fake Item Box harder to notice by giving it the color scheme of the normal Item Boxes when far away and slowly changes back to the color scheme given in Mario Kart Double Dash/Wii depending on how close you get. Also, Fake Item Boxes can't be seen on the minimap in CTGP-7, making sudden surprises both fun again and also annoying.
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze 11 месяцев назад
Honestly, I do like SRB2Kart's take on the Fake Item Box. At a distance, Eggman Boxes are extremely difficult to tell from real item boxes, as the overall shape and colour are identical. Get close, and you'll notice the tiny circle in the middle is Eggman's face instead of the usual star. But picking it up isn't completely the end of the world - picking it up rigs your kart to explode, but it replaces your currently held item with the detonation switch. It'll explode on its own after about 5 seconds, but you're encouraged to drive towards someone else and detonate it early to catch them in the blast as well.
@ShadowWolfTJC
@ShadowWolfTJC 11 месяцев назад
With kart racers and items in mind, perhaps Design Doc could do a video comparing how other kart racing games, from the popular Crash Team Racing and Sonic All-Stars Racing to the more niche and obscure ModNation Racers and Diddy Kong Racing, handle their item systems (along with individual items).
@crystalkirby
@crystalkirby 11 месяцев назад
I'm certain it's been said by now but in Double Dash Parakoopa juggles but Koopa stacks the shells. Other characters can juggle and stack too, with Mushrooms only, but getting hit makes them drop all but 1 item in their hands. For clarity too, Rainbow Road in Double Dash has a chance for shooting stars to fall on the track before the big launch rainbow, which was seen in the video itself. This usually spawns a star by itself.
@Punaparta
@Punaparta 11 месяцев назад
I honestly find handheld games in general fascinating. From 1989 to 2019, Nintendo basically had to every once in a while take a step back and develop games for a less powerful system than their main one. The results were... quite interesting.
@sledgen.
@sledgen. 11 месяцев назад
even though it became very situational later on, I actually love the idea behind the feather. A short, super quick bounce into the air to avoid projectiles and do mini-shortcuts. It wouldn't be as broken in 3D mariokart titles, but it feels really fun to use!
@ThatFanBoyGuy
@ThatFanBoyGuy 11 месяцев назад
I think the reason MK8 Deluxe made it so easy to lose the Blooper Ink is due to fact that it lacks something that previous MK games with the Blooper lacked - a second screen. As you pointed out, for the most part, you can make your way around the course by looking at the mini-map on the second screen, so if the Blooper ink got on the main screen and actually impaired the screen, you just moved your focus to the mini-map on the second screen. Since the Switch doesn't give that option, the Blooper ink can't linger too long without majorly disrupting gameplay.
@mrlampy
@mrlampy 11 месяцев назад
in 8 they should’ve gone the full way with the blooper ink making you slippy, making you take more time to recover from spinning out, it should also just last longer too, that would help it.
@marioland3000
@marioland3000 9 месяцев назад
It does do exactly this in 8 and Deluxe, reducing your traction and sheering when you're covered in inky black. It's not that obvious at slower speeds, but in 200cc it means you need to hit your brakes a lot more to make it around most corners, and it can make some corners absolutely terrifying.
@fernando98322
@fernando98322 11 месяцев назад
I love the bananas in a conga line in MK64, I love ceashing the line to an opponent and the rest of the bananas spread out in the spot, so satisfying. Bananas were never as cool as in MK64, and NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THEM!
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 11 месяцев назад
In MK64 you can hold the Blue Shell behind you, like a normal shell, but it’s a fantastic shield that doesn’t disappear (I can’t remember what does make it go away). Firing a red shell in 1st will make it go round the entire track in the centre, creating an extra hazard for the racers.
@cericat
@cericat 5 месяцев назад
Star would break it, I think lightning too but it's been a long long time since I played MK64.
@ASCENSiON_
@ASCENSiON_ 11 месяцев назад
As someone who's been addicted to Mario Kart as of late, thanks to all of the booster course pass hype for MK8DX, this video came at a perfect time.
@angeljrivera95
@angeljrivera95 11 месяцев назад
2:25 - Super Mario Kart 8:55 - Mario Kart 64 14:50 - Mario Kart Super Circuit 17:07 - Mario Kart: Double Dash! 22:11 - Mario Kart DS 26:25 - Mario Kart Wii 31:03 - Mario Kart 7 35:29 - Mario Kart 8/ 8 Deluxe Here are timestamps if anyone wants to skip to a game.
@nazberry6281
@nazberry6281 11 месяцев назад
I still think the POW block has interesting mechanics, because, even if tricking allows you to keep most of your speed, It locks your trajectory, A POW quake on a sharp turn and you are basically guaranteed to hit a wall or fall, without strategy. That and the removal of the item you were holding, and items are paramount in MK wii. There is also the Fake item box, a really bad defensive item, since red/green shells just pass through it when you are holding the FIB behind you. But this also makes it an interesting obstacle: A well placed FIB cannot be really countered, even when you have say triple shells out, there is no choice but to avoid it. Also fun fact, the MK8 piranha plant always tries to eat what's next to it, even other drivers using stars for example, it can also eat a blooper when it tries to attack you. Pretty neat.
@heliodorable4612
@heliodorable4612 11 месяцев назад
i miss the super leaf so much!! it was my favorite item in 7, pretty unique but still incredibly useful for avoiding hazards if you can time it right. if there's one item i'd like them to bring back, it's that one! also, the pow block was kind of fun just to see if you could time the controller shake correctly
@sonicgen20
@sonicgen20 11 месяцев назад
It’s great that Deluxe brought back the double item mechanic, but I still miss having an exclusive item for each driver.
@forevermasteri4330
@forevermasteri4330 11 месяцев назад
In Mario Kart Wii, every character gets their own vehicle modifier(s). And they are a big reason for why Funky Kong dominated the competitive scene; he had the highest top speed bonus in the game.
@AustinPSmith96
@AustinPSmith96 11 месяцев назад
As a kid who played a ton of MKDD, I sort of had to make up my own games to keep it replayable, so sometimes I tried to see what different item combos I could end up capturing with the princess hearts. I'd try to get like a Bowser Shell and giant banana or something.
@dabluepittoo-aqua4213
@dabluepittoo-aqua4213 11 месяцев назад
The item system is a balancing act between control and chaos. Too much control and things will get boring. Too much chaos and Wii happens. I think Double Dash and 8 hit a fine balance and make the game still fun while having some goofy moments to look back on with a smile. As for my favourite item? I love the Chain Chomp/Bullet Bill and the Bowser Shell.
@davidkonevky7372
@davidkonevky7372 11 месяцев назад
Another reason why I think the fake item boxes have become redundant other than the fact that they obviously look different to normal item boxes is the placement. Throwing a FIB doesn't really make sense because boxes tend to be in a symmetrical line/pattern, and a lonely FIB in a chaotic spot stands out like a sore thumb. If FIBS automatically aligned themselves to an existing box line it would be more believable.
@dudono1744
@dudono1744 4 месяца назад
Used to hide RIB inside the actual boxes
@davidguthriemusic
@davidguthriemusic 11 месяцев назад
24:53 fun fact, I actually did this quite a bit as a kid! My DS had a broken top screen that would randomly turn off, and when it did in the middle of a race, i would finish using the bottom screen only--I got quite good at it haha!
@cliffy9874
@cliffy9874 11 месяцев назад
The emotional rollercoaster of getting hit by a red shell right before the finish line, but you get launched *just* far enough to still cross it.
@MakingExplosions
@MakingExplosions 11 месяцев назад
What do you think will be the new special feature for Mario Kart 9? Personally, I think giving each character something unique - a passive ability where your miniturbos last longer; or an ultimate ability that activates after reaching 20 coins or so - would be pretty interesting and fun. Maybe pair co-driving comes back from Double Dash or ... the Thunder Cloud...
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 11 месяцев назад
If it was releasing on the Switch rather than Switch 2 - And I think the booster pass completely puts the kibosh on that possibility - I was thinking they might feel the need to differentiate further than usual, and give us something along the lines of a Kart Racing equivalent of Forza Horizon. Open world, driving between tracks, races that can happen on the open road and just be 'get to Point B by any route you can find' stuff. With it not doing, probably just leaning a bit harder on what's already present. MK7, MK8, and MK8DX all feel fairly linear progression of each other. It feels like Nintendo's found what they want Mario Kart to settle into being now rather than going Wild with every iteration. Hoping for a bit more in single player - even just the return of mission mode, and maybe some more kart, and possibly character, customization. And the Lucky 7/Crazy 8 is now probably going to be called Cloud 9.
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 11 месяцев назад
How about continuing the trend of 7 & 8 and add more mode of driving like digging for shortcut as well as driving in the sky with a purple pad switching to a hover kart. Maybe refining the experience a little more after 8. Mission mode, double racers and character specific items can be all back. The coins should cap at 20 rather than 10 and make it easier to lose large amounts of coin, in addition, make each coin worth 1/5 mushroom rather than 1/10. I think maybe super acorn, cloud flower, bomb shell and double cherry. Super Acorn can be used mid air to gain a upward boost or hop out of a glider section, cloud flower create 3 clouds for blocking the racers behind, working more like an obstacle to slow down rather than spinning out, bomb shell is basically a shell that explode upon contact with a racer and double Cherry create a racer clone which absorb item spinning out and also get a new item slot. Bring back the heart, bowser shell and giant banana as character exclusive as well as items such as ice flower, the cannons, mega mushroom and super leaf from tour and past games.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket 11 месяцев назад
I was so hoping the return of the double item boxes in _8 Deluxe_ was setting up for a return of co-op mode. It would have been so perfect because (if I recall) the Switch can handle up to eight players using single joycons, and of course since there's only room on the TV for four split screens, that means having to play as teams of two. And because "8" is right in the name! Besides that, I'd actually like to see them double down on the inclusion of non-Marioverse characters, tracks, and even items and rebrand as "Nintendoland Kart" or "Super Smash Racers" or something. With all the extra content we've gotten, Mario Kart as we know it has kind of hit its limit.
@ZMYaro
@ZMYaro 11 месяцев назад
@@Stephen-Fox I don't expect full open world, but I could definitely see them doing something with driving between tracks, like Crash Team Racing and Diddy Kong Racing.
@Bardic_Knowledge
@Bardic_Knowledge 11 месяцев назад
The first item story that comes to my mind is when we had just gotten Double Dash. My older sisters (and the younger sister's boyfriend at the time) were playing a four player vs, so it was just the four karts on the track (Cheep Cheep Beach or whatever it was called). We were pretty well clustered, but my eldest sister was in fourth place and grabbed a Blue Shell, then immediately pulled into first place as she went to throw it. It looped back around and blew her up, and the rest of us got caught in the shockwave. I also vaguely remember an incident in Mario Kart 64, where I think I got hit with a green shell on a ramp in Wario Stadium and got blasted backwards to a ways before the ramp. I mainly remember my reaction, which was to shout "hell what the?!"
@killerklown94
@killerklown94 11 месяцев назад
With DS the trick is, you have to place the fake item box inside a real one, multiple in the same line if you can.
@finnaboing
@finnaboing 11 месяцев назад
I'm sorry are we just gonna ignore 22:57 which has the coolest banana snipe I've ever seen in my life
@LionUnchained
@LionUnchained 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for making this. I am getting into game design and doing a game jam right now and being able to watch this at 2x speed and find all of the valuable insights to be gained from the item design is a blessing. I typically play and make pvp based games, but a teammate had a great mechanic worked out so we went with vehicles. Really helping round out my lack of knowledge for kart game items post N64 era. Cheers!
@TheLaXandro
@TheLaXandro 11 месяцев назад
An interesting video idea would be an analysis of those same powerups across different franchises. Every kart racer has a similar staple set of powerups, and even some non-kart ones like Wipeout, Blur and Rollcage/GRIP, and yet they all have their distinctions, like Wipeout giving Missiles low tracking with wall bounces and essentially combining red and green shells as a result.
@The_KingDoge
@The_KingDoge 9 месяцев назад
Wii and double have my favorite item balancing, the sheer chaos is incredible when playing with friends.
@SablePaintbrush
@SablePaintbrush 11 месяцев назад
36:16 the wiiU DOES have the handheld map/items mode! You tap on the map icon on the right. REALLY OP in battle mode.
@marioland3000
@marioland3000 9 месяцев назад
A few other notes: The Mushroom is typically not seen as much but a speed booster or shortcut maker, except multiple games with blue/spiny shells allow you to dodge them with a properly timed boost right before it lands, giving people that get to first with a mushroom an extra way out. The star's speed boost in 8/Deluxe has been significantly reduced, making the item weaker compared to prior iterations but still just as effective at driving over grass or avoiding hits. Also gives you a nice boost to acceleration. Also in 8/Deluxe, the Blooper reduces traction/turning capability so it actually does something beyond just covering the screen in ink. This isn't too notable on most slower speeds where you'll just turn a little wider, but it can be especially rough at 200CC speeds as it becomes much harder to take corners and requires much more braking to avoid falling off or hitting walls. Finally, Bloopers are mildly threatening. The Piranha Plant item can lunge even faster by hitting the item button repeatedly while it's active, making it even more terrifying for a shorter speed boost as each chomp takes a bite out of its longevity.
@underworldgameshd69
@underworldgameshd69 11 месяцев назад
The red shells in super circuit when dropped behind you will stay in place until someone drives past it then it will lock onto them.
@PuppetMasterIX
@PuppetMasterIX 11 месяцев назад
Believe it or not, there is *one* practical use to glancing at the bottom screen in MK7: It lets you see when another player uses a Blue Shell, a lot earlier than you would know otherwise. If you're very distantly in first, that's not any help; but if 2nd place is close to you, you can intentionally slow down and let them take the lead - and the Blue Shell's attention.
@BestgirlJordanfish
@BestgirlJordanfish 11 месяцев назад
The way I’d like to see items evolve is to literally have them evolve. Like if you get an item box while already holding an item, it can become a big version. Or if that’s too strong, maybe boxes or gates where you lose coins but can reroll or evolve. Gives a little reward for saving up and can give some nice double dash throwbacks.
@lordpillows762
@lordpillows762 11 месяцев назад
Not even a need to make whole new itens, just make triples to come to be when you catch more boxes while holding the single version of them
@CiromBreeze
@CiromBreeze 11 месяцев назад
Honestly, one of my favourite takes on the "first place killer" item comes from SRB2Kart's Self-Propelled Bomb. As soon as one gets launched, everyone in the race hears a loud alarm, and the bomb starts beelining it towards first place, even going *through* stage obstacles and walls. However, it only ever *matches* the speed of the player in first - meaning if they play perfectly, they can always outrun it. But now the player in first can't slow down under any circumstance, or else the bomb hits them. Making tight turns becomes a lot more difficult when you're unable to tap the brakes, and getting perfect drifts becomes all the more important to get a slight moment of distance between you and the bomb. (But the bomb will be right back on your tail once that boost expires - it gets the speed boost too.) Though of course, if the player in first somehow manages to slip into second place (without slowing down, mind), then the bomb will change targets, even if it's been going for that player for a while.
@skavengerslayer
@skavengerslayer 11 месяцев назад
In n64, the best defense item is the blue shell which is op, the only way to get rid of a blue shell is another blue shell.
@Itsgay2read
@Itsgay2read 11 месяцев назад
It would be cool to see you guys talk about the evolution of the karts in Mario Kart. Great video!
@BillyBob-lx9wq
@BillyBob-lx9wq 10 месяцев назад
30:34 I love the explosions and how you actually flip in the air instead of roll to the side like in mk8
@sebash2385
@sebash2385 11 месяцев назад
Coin is so interesting tbh. I personally think it’s a pretty good item for balance in MK Deluxe while it’s pretty bad in the original 8. Prevents first from getting multiple defense tools, forces them to go double item, but gives +2 coins for speed. But then again, the modern fake item box is so poorly designed imo, it could technically replace the coin. Instead of +2 coins it gives just a pretty weak trap item. Personally I prefer the coin, since I hope fake item box does get reworked in a future game.
@SaxoraMcOhn
@SaxoraMcOhn 11 месяцев назад
The funniest moment in Mario Kart 8 was when I found out that you can actually control the bullet bill. I never told my friends, making them curse their bad luck when they constantly got hit by my bullet bill no matter how they evaded.
@dr.c2195
@dr.c2195 11 месяцев назад
In Mario Kart DS the Blue Shell can be dodged by using a drift boost at the right time. This technique is called "Blue Shell Dodge". It is very difficult to do, but I have heard legends of people who could do it consistently.
@Eduar6996
@Eduar6996 10 месяцев назад
Same can be done on Double Dash. Requires significant skill to pull it off consistently, but even pulling it once can be rewarding. In fact, you can take red shells as practice.
@azuriteknight2484
@azuriteknight2484 11 месяцев назад
All time favorite situation will always be Double Dash on Baby park with giant bananas and bowsers shells. Pure chaos. Hate that the 8 version has a wall in the middle to stop items from crossing over but at least its there with 12 racers.
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 11 месяцев назад
Same, the entire point of baby park is the high speed chaos, not letting the items cross the median really removes that certain terror of a Bowser Shell coming out of nowhere on you.
@luisces
@luisces 11 месяцев назад
Your docs on mario karts and other racers are extremely helpful and detailed! I'm myself trying my hand at a mk clone game, and those docs have proven to be a strong helping hand. Thanks!
@magmarxiogaming6717
@magmarxiogaming6717 11 месяцев назад
I've said this for years now but Mario kart 8 has always had the most consistent item balance in the series
@Pipboy3000
@Pipboy3000 11 месяцев назад
They should bring back the banana system from MK64. If you don't turn too sharply and tap the brake you can fully stop yourself from spinning out. Made placement on corners a bit more important and added a little skill check.
@GamingWarlord64
@GamingWarlord64 11 месяцев назад
I would love a video going over all the arcade items
@jacobknighton8278
@jacobknighton8278 11 месяцев назад
So happy double dash gets the love it deserves. That game is incredible, and the battle mode is unmatched.
@Alphard72
@Alphard72 11 месяцев назад
The other day I was wondering what the item suite would look like if the red shell were removed. It's one of the most iconic items, but from a certain design perspective it doesn't seem that great. It doesn't help you go faster, it just slows down another player, and not even the most important player, just the player in front of you. It's selfish, not strategic. If you only care about coming in first, the red shell only really helps you if you're in second. It might even make it harder to reach first if second place has to spend their items covering their back while first place gets further ahead. I don't think I'd mind seeing the Bob-omb or something similar with more interactions move into the red shells position in the game, especially in the back of the pack. The simplicity of the red shell is part of its strength though. Using the item and then your position moving up by 1 is a good feedback loop. It's the easiest to understand element of item strategy that is really important to the game. The constant threat of getting red shelled is important. You can outmaneuver bombs, bananas, and greens, but you have to spend your items to deal with a red shell or fall behind.
@MizunoKetsuban
@MizunoKetsuban 11 месяцев назад
I mean, you're more than capable of testing that out.
@joeyhamilton6854
@joeyhamilton6854 5 месяцев назад
My into to the series was double dash, so when tripple items spun around you and you could hold items behind you again it was like a wild innovation.
@ikedood2112
@ikedood2112 11 месяцев назад
There's an interesting take on a catch up item in 2RB2Kart, a fan made kart racer based on Sonic. It's a bomb that homes in on first place and follows behind them. However, if first place can keep top speed and not make a single mistake, they can outrun it. It provides a challenge to skilled players, while still working well for those not at that level.
@azliaheaven2800
@azliaheaven2800 11 месяцев назад
i would like to add that in double dash the car you pick matters since baby cars can't hit the big karts and are hit backwards istead if they colide, the big karts are slower but better for driff ,normal karts are better for dashing and double dashing on curves and baby karts are faster but worse on curves, you can also get a boost at the start of the race if you press in the right momentum and a double boost if you switch characters while doing it the thing about the karts behaving different matters more in the minigames map the game was very chaotic and i have a lot of funny memoriesfor that, it was the only thing that joined the family in a room so i remember all the stuff 😂
@Rakonax
@Rakonax 11 месяцев назад
I liked the thundercloud from a gamedesign perspective, before it existed, items were always good, so no matter what you'd want the box. the cloud added some uncertainty to that. If i had to pick two items to come back for 8 deluxe it'd be the cloud and the fake item box
@thecanadianfood
@thecanadianfood 11 месяцев назад
Mario Kart 64's Green Shell will always be my favorite version of the Green Shell because it will bounce indefinitely until it either hits someone or goes off the track. Green Shell is also the reason why I prefer the old version of Rainbow Road 64 because it had rails on the entire track and it wouldn't be uncommon to see multiple Green Shells bouncing around as you complete laps.
@codysvlogdays
@codysvlogdays 11 месяцев назад
24:58 hi, im the weirdo that did this a lot when i played this game. It honestly gives you a competitive advantage cause you can eyeball all of the other players' items, it also helps with lining up your shots without having to look back and not see where youre going
@davidmaximus6709
@davidmaximus6709 4 месяца назад
"There are no returning new characters from Mario Kart Wii in Mario Kart 7" Rosalina: 🧍🏻‍♀️
@greninjamariokartpokemonfan
@greninjamariokartpokemonfan 3 месяца назад
When he said "none of the Wii's newcomers are back", he meant that none of the items introduced in Wii return in 7.
@emmet042
@emmet042 11 месяцев назад
So here's a random fun fact about the coin item specifically in 8DX. You can not have two coins occupy both item slots at the same time.* Therefore, if you do only have a coin and are about to hit a single ? block, it's better to wait till after you get the new item before using the coin. Plus, if the coin is in the first slot, it's a perfect Boo defense. I've had way too many instances of a Boo taking my defensive item before getting hit a few moments later. *okay, I actually have gotten double coin once from a double box; however, this instance was in a laggy online match, and the roulette had been spinning for a good 10 seconds.
@cheeseboy2251
@cheeseboy2251 11 месяцев назад
It’s worth noting in Vanilla MK8 you could very much get combo’d, but at some point in deluxes lifespan around 2018 it was patched and you have WAY more invincibility frames completely removing combos. Also in deluxe you can never get two coins, so if you’re in first and get a coin it’s worth holding onto until the next set of items because you aren’t getting another
@pachoxtre2536
@pachoxtre2536 11 месяцев назад
43 MINUTES?!? LETS GOOOOOOOO
@OmegaGlops
@OmegaGlops 10 месяцев назад
I really like how the item system works in Mario Kart Tour! I'd like the next Mario Kart game to keep it, minus the character-specific "Favorite Course" limits. Character-specific special items and Frenzies need to make a comeback!
@JazzyWaffles
@JazzyWaffles 11 месяцев назад
TBH I'd love you to give the arcade spinoffs & Tour a once-over for their items. Tour especially. The arcade game items are... mostly worthless, honestly, or are just duplicates of existing staple items. Tour's new items are honestly really interesting, and I'd love to see most of them make a return in a console Mario Kart game. Tour uses the regular/special item distinction that was introduced in Double Dash. The Feather is back in Battle Mode as of last year, and there are 13 regular items are mostly staple items, as well as the Mega Mushroom, returning from Wii. The Star can't be normally gotten, since that's tied to a new mechanic called Frenzy, where you are given the power of a star, an infinite amount of a specific item to use for a short time (albeit usually a nerfed version of that item). I'm not sure of the exact mechanics behind Frenzy, but I think the chances of it happening when you hit an item box is based on distance from 1st place? The special items are where it gets fun. In terms of returning items... all the triple items are there, of course, as well as double bob-ombs, the fire and boomerang flowers, the Lucky Seven, the Super Leaf, the Bowser Shell, the Giant Banana, the Yoshi/Birdo Eggs, and the Hearts. But the NEW special items are really interesting. Ice Flowers freeze drivers they hit, but the driver maintains any momentum they had, drifting in that direction until they unfreeze. Bubbles act sort of like a fragile Star that doesn't have the smooshing power of a Mega Mushroom (quickly carrying you forwards for a set amount of time, but popping if you hit anything damaging). Dash Rings put 3 rings in your path to drive through, giving you a speed boost as you drive through each one, but also giving drivers behind you and near you a chance to use them as well. The Giga Bob-omb serves as a Bob-omb that has a larger explosion and (somewhat poorly) homes in on its target. Hammers throw several hammers ahead of you, which either bounce around for awhile until they despawn or hit someone, or hit the driver in front of you. The Super Bell is basically the Golden Shroom equivalent of a Super Horn. Coin Boxes are like Golden Shrooms but for the Coin item, but instead of giving YOU coins, it throws the coins all around you for yourself and racers behind you to collect. Capsules are similar to hammers, but they come in 3's and rotate around your kart before you throw them like Triple Shells or Triple Bananas do. Lastly are the Banana Barrels, the Mushroom Cannon, and the Bob-omb Cannon, which are basically give you cannons on your kart to fire their respective item onto the track in front of you (and yes, the Banana Barrels kind of suck as a result because you often just end up driving into your own bananas). ...I accidentally left this entire post in the comment box for a full day, oops
@kblade08
@kblade08 10 месяцев назад
Genuinely love your ad transitions.
@YT_Kirbe
@YT_Kirbe 11 месяцев назад
I actually have an idea for buffing the blooper and making it at least decent. When it's used on an opponent, it will block more of their screen because that's it's main purpose. Not only that however, the ink will not just make the kart more slippy, but it would also slow down the racers. Not by much but just enough for players behind to catch up. (This last part however can be removed if it contradicts what the main purpose of the blooper is. One last thing: COINS are fine as something you collect on the road but they should not be something that take up item slots.
@wickd6878
@wickd6878 11 месяцев назад
AGREED on the coins! I stopped playing 8 partially due to this. It often made first place no longer feel like a kart racer. I just got stuck with empty item boxes, essentially.
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 11 месяцев назад
Two score?! It's full doc time!
@hiroprotagonest
@hiroprotagonest 11 месяцев назад
Aw, I was hoping you'd mention the part that *is* good about Wii's items for competitive players. The items you grab aren't just based on your broad position like 4th or 9th, they're based on your distance from other players. This replaces the usual diceroll from a pool of items with distance management as players jockey for position.
@tebbtebberton1007
@tebbtebberton1007 11 месяцев назад
I'm sad that you didn't mention the special tricks of the red and blue shells in Super Circuit (GBA). You can drop them behind you, and they sit there like a proximity mine, the red shells will activate and chase the next person behind them, and the Blue shell will patiently wait for the driver in 1st to come around again. It's mostly sad that these functions are almost entirely unknown cause they were ONLY in this one less than favorite game.
@brag3320
@brag3320 10 месяцев назад
A couple of my favourite Mario cart moments is banana sniping. There is something so satisfying about hitting someone directly with a banana, and I’ve even done it mid glide a couple of times
@clayton_games
@clayton_games 11 месяцев назад
You should also have mentioned how you can't get karted in MK8 because after getting hit with something like a shell, you're invincible from other shells for a short while.
@aikatsukin
@aikatsukin 4 месяца назад
The banana in MK64 had one other really unique feature that I don't think any other game had: you could stop from slipping. If you drove straight over a banana peel, you'd have a split second to press brake and not spin out. Even as a kid I felt like that was a fun little challenge every time I accidentally ran into one.
@AustinPSmith96
@AustinPSmith96 11 месяцев назад
Double Dash is taking me BACK I think I spent half my childhood playing that game
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 11 месяцев назад
Hot take: Blooper in MK8 is actually not terrible. The ink blocking your screen still makes next to no difference, but the increased slipperyness when turning can make a huge difference on bendier tracks and on higher ccs, where drifting on turns is already super tight and a bit more slipperyness can send you careening into the off-road or off the track. It legitimately becomes one of the best items when racing on SNES Rainbow Road and Neo-Bowser City with 200cc, especially if you’re using an outside-drifting kart, which is more prone to the effect. If it wasn’t for the opportunity cost of being an ~8th place item, and if it wasn’t so easy to remove, it would be an above-average item imo. As it is now, it’s still ok but hard to see the overall slowing effect the slippery drifting creates due to it being a global item
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