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Mark Coleman on Ken Shamrock
Ultimate Fighting Championship Hall of Famer & 1st ever UFC Champion Mark "The Hammer" Coleman talks about how he would have done against Ken Shamrock in a fight as well as his short experience training at Shamrocks camp which didn't go well.
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@machohogan
@machohogan 3 года назад
92-96 Shamrock was a monster.
@k1dn1ce76
@k1dn1ce76 2 года назад
This guy beat Igor Voychanchen when Igor was in his prime and solid as stone! That fact alone shows how tough Mark was.
@anthonyventi1579
@anthonyventi1579 Год назад
And that was his 3rd fight of the night!
@TheRealTomahawk
@TheRealTomahawk 4 месяца назад
I remember seeing Igor Von Chanchin for the first time back in like 2010 and thinking wow this guy seems like he was good enough to beat Bruce Lee and my brother said something like are you serious? He was offended by that comment but I know how good Igor was and I heard Mark Coleman almost made him cry
@db3467
@db3467 2 года назад
Mark Coleman is a great father . What a transformation after fighting. Coleman priorities are right on family comes first. God Bless Mark Coleman in his retired life.
@mattysquizzato7094
@mattysquizzato7094 5 лет назад
"I woulda' taken Ken Shamrock down, and pounded the shit of him" Well I hope I'm never in jail with Mark Coleman.
@JJones-nf9ce
@JJones-nf9ce 5 лет назад
War stories with Mark is golden. Respect for Mark Coleman
@daselmojo
@daselmojo 5 лет назад
ive met mark coleman twice, once in tokyo the first rizin fc and once in abu dhabi where he was a guest commentator in an mma event, he is a man that deserves so much respect he is a warrior through and through wish him the best
@princeofpickles9765
@princeofpickles9765 5 лет назад
This man was a monster back in the day....😅
@captainroger
@captainroger 3 года назад
Naaaa. That was his training partner. Kevin Randleman
@ThunderLips730
@ThunderLips730 3 года назад
@@captainroger yeah, coleman just trained one!🤣
@kevinstivers3860
@kevinstivers3860 3 года назад
Hell ya. He was called The Hammer for a reason. 😆
@saintdamien8290
@saintdamien8290 2 года назад
Steroids
@levedia
@levedia Год назад
@@captainroger jokes aside Coleman was bigger. He was a medium version of GOLDBERG with the traps. Randleman had great body and shape.
@TheStuport
@TheStuport 5 лет назад
Followed Mark Coleman when he was at Ohio State as the University is in my own backyard! True Legend of Columbus AND Old School MMA......Having seen BOTH Ken and Mark in their prime I do have to give the Win to Mark.....wish they really did have a chance to dance back then.....Cheers From Ohio
@pb12661
@pb12661 5 лет назад
I miss the 90's.
@douglasroseveare7295
@douglasroseveare7295 3 года назад
Still to this day the best double leg takedown I have ever seen was Coleman vs Rizzo when he drove Rizzo half way across the ring and they came to a sliding stop.
@Khaos969
@Khaos969 3 года назад
Ken Shamrock in his prime was a lethal submission expert
@Sammy_T56
@Sammy_T56 2 года назад
You've over sold Ken a bit there mate. He's only really got leg locks, and chokes. Just look at his career after the comeback from pro wrestling, it was mediocre at best. Shamrock just never evolved that much, and had terrible stand up
@amarshall911
@amarshall911 11 месяцев назад
Ken was better than Williams...and Williams KO Coleman.
@LovingTinha
@LovingTinha 5 лет назад
When Mark Coleman came into his own, Ken was well past his prime, so wouldn't have been a good fight at that point, but both of them at their peaks would have been a good fight
@djsailbeat9999
@djsailbeat9999 3 года назад
mark ducked ken shamrock
@timcastro7766
@timcastro7766 3 года назад
@Jesus Hitler your insane. Both in their absolute peaks ken was stronger. ken would’ve takin Coleman down and definitely would’ve put him in some kind of knee bar or heel hook or some shit guaranteed
@justamurse5646
@justamurse5646 2 года назад
@@timcastro7766 “Ken would’ve taken Coleman down”. 🤣 🤣 Ken woulda been fighting off his back, no question. Now whether ken could submit him or not is the question.
@tommyfrancis8528
@tommyfrancis8528 2 года назад
@@timcastro7766 That's the stupidest thing I've read this week.
@paleo704
@paleo704 2 года назад
@@timcastro7766 as easily as Ken smoked Dan Severn and Bas Rutten, I suspect you’re correct
@TheMugzeeMalone
@TheMugzeeMalone 5 лет назад
San Clemente 🌅Ave Vista Montana 😁🥋What up Coleman ?! Mark Kerr & Branden Hinkle were there when I visited...🚗🚗🚗
@YeahClickClack
@YeahClickClack 5 лет назад
Thank you for the videos. They are fantastic. Did Mark Coleman ever say what he thought a fight with Royce Gracie would of been like for him?
@mumbus272
@mumbus272 5 лет назад
Respect the competitive spirit...
@idiot-983
@idiot-983 5 лет назад
Met Mark in Columbus Ohio took pictures shook hands just a Great Guy !
@myrtlemorrison7574
@myrtlemorrison7574 3 года назад
Love it man
@earthenergyhex
@earthenergyhex 5 лет назад
headbutts included!! LOL awesome
@bobbeezel2593
@bobbeezel2593 Год назад
Best backdrop ever!
@samueljones2878
@samueljones2878 5 лет назад
mark is a legend to bad his punch drunk from all the wars he had
@grognok
@grognok 2 года назад
No he's fucked up from all the roids he was pumping.
@beaches2mountains230
@beaches2mountains230 2 года назад
No this is clearly from too many past concussions and rough training/practice headshots..
@yoyo762
@yoyo762 Год назад
@@beaches2mountains230 Headbutts do plenty of damage to the giver too.
@johnolmos8670
@johnolmos8670 4 года назад
Both in their prime Coleman would have overwhelmed him.Especially when Shamrock was doing WWF.Coleman was a juiced up monster in those days and knew how to crush people
@jmea01
@jmea01 4 года назад
Coleman's strength, wrestling and permitted (at the time) head butting, would have dominated the UFC had the tactic not been prohibited. The reason it was banned was because the wrestlers were dominating the sport with it and the UFC felt it was boring and bad for the sports' growth. Watch the early UFC contests and see that any good, strong wrestler dominate when they were permitted to head butt the mounted opponent's face while engaging the opponents' arms and hands, there was no defense against it. The UFC screwed wrestlers like Coleman .Head butting would have fucked up any BJJ fighter. Dan Severn didn't think to employ it if the first contest. He'd have smashed Royce Gracies' face to pulp.
@nickzimonja3382
@nickzimonja3382 Год назад
Coleman is an awesome dude! Love to have a beer or 10 with him
@stevewozniak223
@stevewozniak223 5 лет назад
Colemans first 2 losses were to Shamrock trained lions Den fighters.
@hexkwondo
@hexkwondo 5 лет назад
Yea but Pete Sells and Maurice would have destroyed Shamrock.
@adrianriley753
@adrianriley753 5 лет назад
@@hexkwondo Shamrock defeated Smith when they fought and if you think Pete Williams would have beat Ken then you are crazy.
@donh90
@donh90 5 лет назад
Smith never was a Lion's Den fighter
@stevewozniak223
@stevewozniak223 5 лет назад
Thisnis true but he trained extensively with the Lions Den before the fight with Coleman and thanked then on mic after the win. It was wodely viewed and acknowledged that Lions Den trained fighters handed Coleman his first L
@adrianriley753
@adrianriley753 5 лет назад
@@stevewozniak223 would have made for an epic fight had they met in 1996. Smith has said Ken was the strongest guy he ever fought and i think if Coleman doesn't finish Ken in the first 5 mins then Ken picks him apart and beats him. I think people forget what a beast Ken was back in his prime mostly because he has been fighting on for so long despite being severely washed up as a fighter.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 3 года назад
So funny, what a good story, kens reaction? That’s just great history 😂🤘😜🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Chubzdoomer
@Chubzdoomer 5 лет назад
That would've been an insane fight!
@maskedmarauder3278
@maskedmarauder3278 2 года назад
When Coleman arrived on scene, he was feared by everyone. He was the Tyson of MMA. His style of fighting was eventually outdated by more sophisticated techniques of submission.
@wotanskarl192
@wotanskarl192 5 лет назад
Love that lil bit at the end, when Dan Gable talks you listen! For a wrestler thats about like sitting at the feet of Jesus
@Order-dx3vo
@Order-dx3vo 5 лет назад
Both Shamrock and Coleman were bad muthafucka's in their primes. That would have been a very interesting fight. In their prime I can't call it. Leaning slightly towards Ken ever so slightly.
@paleo704
@paleo704 5 лет назад
Agreed 100%
@Rubacund
@Rubacund 5 лет назад
Mark Coleman was much much bigger than Ken Shamrock. I would put my money on a prime Mark Coleman.
@paleo704
@paleo704 5 лет назад
Rubacund no actually he wasnt
@WestcountyWill
@WestcountyWill 5 лет назад
@Kaz lemon Coleman lost 4 straight fights in his prime in the 1990's. Shamrock never lost twice in a row in that decade. At the start of the new millennium Coleman's record was 7 and 4, Shamrock's was 23 and 5. Not likely Coleman could have beat a prime Shamrock. Shamrock had way more experience and was considered the better fighter in that era.
@timcastro3917
@timcastro3917 5 лет назад
K W 🤣stop please ,, I doubt he was much bigger if even shamrock at one point was like 220 fuckin yoked ,, and if you think he was a better wrestler your out yo mind ,, shamrock was never in a strictly wrestling league was just naturally balanced agile fast and strong as a fuckin bull he would’ve handled Coleman just like he did kimo and dan Severn
@AceMcSch00ly
@AceMcSch00ly 5 лет назад
Would have loved to of see Mark vs Ken. I got 5 on Coleman, more often then not he dominated Wrestlers.
@erikmc6385
@erikmc6385 5 лет назад
Ill take that action. 5 on my boy ken
@maxv3208
@maxv3208 4 года назад
Shamrock is not a wrestler.
@criselba2283
@criselba2283 3 года назад
@@maxv3208 He's an fake wrestler he has no background
@stevebarnes4805
@stevebarnes4805 3 года назад
@@maxv3208 he was, he was a juco wrestler like Tank Abbott was
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 года назад
@@criselba2283 he wrestled in college, you dunce. He was also doing cage fighting before ufc was even a thing, clown. He did pro wrestling too... to make money in an era where cage fighters got paid like bums.
@vincejesse7735
@vincejesse7735 5 лет назад
That would be a great matchup. I would also like to see Ken Shamrock VS Chuck Liddell !
@Rick-29
@Rick-29 5 лет назад
Would love to find the full interview
@rokkodurango4368
@rokkodurango4368 5 лет назад
einer der besten..:) kekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkkekkekkekkkekkekkkekkekkekkekkekkkekkekkekkekkekkekkkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekiwishgodlikepowerformeandschnuff7777777kekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkekkek
@paulg444
@paulg444 3 года назад
Ken Shamrock was a dangerous bad ass. Mark Coleman was also bad ass ! Tank Abbot was an older generation.
@rainman11985
@rainman11985 5 лет назад
They trained together and people have said they personally witnessed Mark knocking Ken down then Ken jumping back up and either KO'ing Coleman or at least knocking him so silly they had to stop the session. Prime vs Prime it could have gone either way. Ken took Severn down with a double leg but I doubt he would have been able to take down a fresh Coleman. Ken didn't always fight the smartest fight so I've got to give Coleman the edge but it would have been exciting to see those two go at it in their prime.
@MagnusDivision
@MagnusDivision 5 лет назад
This is true. Ashe Bowman was there and confirmed it. I still think Coleman would have won in a match because Shamrock never did well off his back but none the less it would have been a dangerous fight for him and could have gone either way.
@kyleolson279
@kyleolson279 4 года назад
@@MagnusDivision Coleman was no Tito when it comes to GnP skill. If he did get Ken down all he would be able to do is lay on him until he gets tired. Ken beats Coleman 96-04 without a doubt.
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
Ken never knocked me down ver silly
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
@@MagnusDivision Ashe would never confirm this
@bradhall4971
@bradhall4971 4 месяца назад
​@@markcoleman1319 How about Mark Kerr? Did y'all fight?
@brianlowe935
@brianlowe935 3 года назад
Great fighter and love the hoodie go Buckeye's nationan O-H
@steverutledge495
@steverutledge495 4 года назад
Prime vs prime would have been Coleman in Ken's guard practically the whole fight with Coleman winning the judges decision.
@jorgefinlay1933
@jorgefinlay1933 4 года назад
Steve Rutledge no way ken would’ve submitted
@criselba2283
@criselba2283 3 года назад
@@jorgefinlay1933 Ken has no background lol is a fake fighter
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 года назад
@@criselba2283 you're a big clown Look at his fight record he was fighting before ufc was even a thing. A "fake fighter" with over thirty cage fights, sure.
@mrbillyb1966
@mrbillyb1966 3 года назад
Coleman WORLD CLASS WRESTLER. ONCE COLEMAN SHOOTS AND GETS ON TOP OF SOMEBODY THEY WONT BE ABLE TO GET COLEMAN OFF OF THEM.
@mojohojo4077
@mojohojo4077 5 лет назад
how was coleman gonna dominate shamrock if he could not dominate and keep shamrocks lions den fighter pete williams on the mat, who is not as good submissions as shamrock? and look at coleman, he was 'jacked' as you can get..so no excuess, williams flat out knocked him right the f**k out!!! complete fight here: coleman vs. williams www.ufc.tv/video/pete-williams-vs-mark-coleman-ufc-17
@Ricksonkimura
@Ricksonkimura 4 года назад
Mark's account seems inaccurate because during the Pedro fight, Mark used Ken's leg movement and raising up while in the guard which no other person at the time was using but Ken. It's not shameful to have been coached by the 90s Ken Shamrock. Today's Ken, maybe, but 90s Ken, not in the least.
@timcastro7766
@timcastro7766 3 года назад
90s ken at one time was the best In the world. No doubt his very peak he could’ve beaten anyone in the world with a submission
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 5 лет назад
Coleman's silly to sell Shamrock short.
@pb12661
@pb12661 5 лет назад
i don't think he's selling him short but don't forget coleman was a national champion/Olympic quality wrestler.
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 года назад
@@pb12661 so? People give the diaz bros crap for "losing half as many fights as they won" yet coleman is lie 16-10.
@timcastro7766
@timcastro7766 3 года назад
@@pb12661 and ken out wrestled wrestling champions Dan Severn. Only reason ken doesn’t have a champion wrestling title is because he didn’t compete strictly wrestling
@bradleyhayslip468
@bradleyhayslip468 3 года назад
O had the privilege of hanging out with him at some cage fight s in school craft mi .he's a cool guy .
@bryanfrombuffalo7685
@bryanfrombuffalo7685 5 лет назад
Great back drop
@chadkase7580
@chadkase7580 5 лет назад
I'd like to see Ken and Frank Shamrock in their prime.
@bar8665
@bar8665 5 лет назад
Mark steamrolls him. Big fan of both guys.
@Trekopolis
@Trekopolis 2 года назад
Maybe on the other side we can witness all the best matches while they are in their PRIME. :) How fun!! I'd like to see Rickson Gracie against ....well, anyone actually.
@richardlindquistjr
@richardlindquistjr 3 года назад
Much respect Mark Coleman
@i.still.function3463
@i.still.function3463 5 лет назад
Well we all now know what Dela Hoya's next mainevent will be lol. (Seriously though in their Prime,I'd love to see this fight. Money's on Coleman)
@Shadowboxe
@Shadowboxe 3 года назад
Coleman should have his own one man show.
@myname1989
@myname1989 5 лет назад
With Both roided out of their minds power and wrestling wouldn’t mean as much as Ken’s submission skills . Ken also had a slightly better gas tank to tire Coleman out
@VodkaSoda
@VodkaSoda 5 лет назад
When headbutts were legal, Coleman was one of the deadliest fighters on the ground. Him snd Mark Kerr were scary.
@levedia
@levedia Год назад
Coleman would potentially win like he beat FRYE and SEVERN. SHAMROCK lost to both of them. Obviously it dosent always go like that given the mood and in shape of the fighter on that day. But potentially he could beat Shamrock. And with headbutts allowed he can beat Royce Gracie as well. Without headbutts i am not sure about beating Gracie. To be honnest on his first fight with Fedor back in 2004 if it was the old UFC with heeadbutts Coleman would of won. He did not do well with Cro Cop and with couture(coleman wasy out of hos prime). First time ever coudnt take down someone. He has like they said SUPERB take downs best in the busness ever .
@danielseth8272
@danielseth8272 5 лет назад
"was I listening to Ken Shamrock?.....fuck no ...hell no." Lol
@TehUltimateSnake
@TehUltimateSnake Год назад
No disrespect though 😂
@vvstreetfightervv
@vvstreetfightervv 5 лет назад
Cardio would've been the most important thing against Ken. Especially in those days. Those lions den guys ALL had insane cardio. Mark got gassed out quick against Maurice Smith, so i think somethin' similar might've happened against Shamrock...
@jimh.412
@jimh.412 4 года назад
Ken didn't have great cardio. 😒
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
I didn’t train for Mo was partying hard . Very foolish humbled 💯
@terrellpotter2645
@terrellpotter2645 5 лет назад
First MMA Heavy-weight champ knows the truth.
@brandonsmith666
@brandonsmith666 5 лет назад
he was only a grappler, not a striker...nowadays need to be both
@tysonhawk5437
@tysonhawk5437 5 лет назад
My opinion is that Shamrocks only chance would have been to survive the first several minutes of abuse from Coleman and then catch him in a submission.
@criselba2283
@criselba2283 3 года назад
Again the guy has no background of fighting, he trying to be a wrestler or an submission specialist, but in reality he has zero skills except fake wrestling
@levedia
@levedia Год назад
yup
@eat-your-food684
@eat-your-food684 2 года назад
I would put my money on the shamrock.
@Coffeeanddonuts
@Coffeeanddonuts 5 месяцев назад
Mark got knocked out by one of Shamrocks students in the UFC.
@steverutledge495
@steverutledge495 5 лет назад
Wonder what would have gone down if COLEMAN and KERR had to fight eachother in the semi's of Pride grand Prix 2000 ???
@coreywalton710
@coreywalton710 5 лет назад
Kerr had a sugar problem in the Tourament I heard. So Coleman would've probably beat him. Prime vs Prime thats a good one.
@bar8665
@bar8665 5 лет назад
Great matchup
@steverutledge495
@steverutledge495 5 лет назад
It almost happened ....highlighted on the documentary 'The Smashing machine.' ..... Both very good friends and training partners. .... Almost happened with Don Frye and Dan Severn too! ..... Severn was Don Frye's manager at the time too !!!
@devriestown
@devriestown Год назад
​@@coreywalton710 LOL sugar problem??? he got fucked from hgh and outer stuff.
@gene3299
@gene3299 2 года назад
Would have been great to see Coleman beat the shit out of tank Abbott , Coleman has dignified character, but nobody would've been safe near tank in a pub back in the day
@ncf1
@ncf1 Месяц назад
His voice has got nice sub-bass.
@dalegribble1560
@dalegribble1560 2 месяца назад
If he beat Don Frye twice it's definitely reasonable for him to say he'd beat Shamrock.
@nomesobrenome4092
@nomesobrenome4092 3 года назад
He looks so different
@DBGGRACE
@DBGGRACE 5 лет назад
Holy drunk mark coleman
@YeahClickClack
@YeahClickClack 5 лет назад
Coleman would of smashed Shamrock to bits. Would of been a repeat of Ortiz vs Shamrock 1.
@nwo4lifedta316
@nwo4lifedta316 5 лет назад
Naw a prime shamrock is different than the 38 year old who was in that
@YeahClickClack
@YeahClickClack 5 лет назад
Yeah,that’s true. I still think Coleman would of been too much. Shamrock was way over rated in my opinion. Great fighter for his time though.
@rainman11985
@rainman11985 5 лет назад
@@YeahClickClackShamrock had a serious knee injury leading into the Don Frye fight and he never recovered from it. He was a totally different fighter before that. His double leg takedown was his best weapon. Watch him defend multiple take down attempts by Fujita (a bigger and stronger guy than Tito) then watch him get rag dolled by Tito Ortiz... he didn't have his legs under him anymore. After he lost his ability to take a punch he was completely done as a fighter. He couldn't defend take downs or close the distance effectively against strikers and he was done after one strike to the chin. His fights against Frye and Tito were a guy with no weapons just trying to absorb punishment til his opponent got tired or overextended himself and walked into a leg lock. He showed a ton of toughness and heart in those fights but they finished him because he couldn't take a punch after that. Ken had punching power but he never had boxing skills, even though he always claimed he did, so like I said, he didn't have any weapons at the elite level anymore.
@rainman11985
@rainman11985 5 лет назад
If it had been Ken instead of Dan Severn against Coleman at UFC 12 it would have been a hell of a contest whilst it lasted. Personally, I think Ken would still have been effected by the criticism he received from the boring fight against Severn and would have gone in there aggressive as hell against a guy who was at least 25lbs bigger than him and probably would have ended up on the bottom... but you never know.
@YeahClickClack
@YeahClickClack 5 лет назад
rainman11985 Great points about Shamrock. I agree with all of them. Too bad we never got Shamrock vs Abbot and Coleman vs Royce.
@BirdDawg1
@BirdDawg1 3 года назад
Stephen Bonner said Coleman has pig skin that can't be split. This is one of MANY comments made about his super-human qualities made by top notch fighters. The "Hammer" may be the best ever. Pick another fighter that gets respect like him, by everyone.
@echopanda
@echopanda 5 лет назад
Mark would have steamrolled Ken. He was too big and immovable once on top.
@bar8665
@bar8665 5 лет назад
Yeah, Ken is more built to fight 205lb opponents. True heavyweights are too much including Mark who have done exactly what you said.
@Sammy_T56
@Sammy_T56 2 года назад
For Shamrock to attempt to show Mark Coleman how to ground n pound just shows the ludacris level of Shamrocks arrogance
@AOIbis
@AOIbis 5 лет назад
Ken would have won, mark had the game for a small small time period
@invisiblechurch9621
@invisiblechurch9621 3 года назад
Ken had an even shorter time on top
@criselba2283
@criselba2283 3 года назад
What ken background?
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 года назад
@@criselba2283 what does it matter?? He was a submission wrestler
@theforemostauthority7921
@theforemostauthority7921 3 года назад
The Pride Grand Prix was more impressive than anything Ken ever did.
@timcastro7766
@timcastro7766 3 года назад
@@theforemostauthority7921 your crazy
@josephmiller9424
@josephmiller9424 5 месяцев назад
It wouldve been worst then what Tito did to Ken
@jebbush6662
@jebbush6662 5 лет назад
Glamrock as Abbott refered to him got choked the fuck out by a 180 pound dude. Sorry Ken but Coleman would have whipped that ass. Now Frank is a different story. These old school dudes remind me of my dad....
@coreysmorgan8488
@coreysmorgan8488 3 года назад
Coleman woulda won that one
@endersoth2623
@endersoth2623 2 года назад
Ken would have whooped Colemans ass! Whose with me?
@iflores-lg9bg
@iflores-lg9bg 5 лет назад
I would have given the slight edge to Ken. Better submissions, better striking, better fight IQ, just as strong, less wrestling though.
@iflores-lg9bg
@iflores-lg9bg 5 лет назад
Very true BUT the argument is in their prime. Ken was nowhere near his prime when he fought Don. Plus Don was arguably the better striker and had no intent of taking Ken down where Ken has an advantage against both those guys. Mark's plan in his prime would 100% be to try to take Ken down. I personally don't think MMA math of fighter A beat fighter B so should beat fighter C works in this case imo. I guess we'll never know..
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
@@iflores-lg9bg I win for sure .
@rodw2901
@rodw2901 3 года назад
He was dad to see this now
@jimjones3605
@jimjones3605 Год назад
Who wins? Depends on where Mark's head it at. If he is Egoland, he has a 50 percent chance to get submitted and a 10% chance to get rocked. If Mark is leery but in good shape, he has an 80% chance. If it turns into a grudge match, I'd take Coleman's heart over Shamrock's every time.
@danielj233
@danielj233 5 лет назад
Ken shamrock tried to show Coleman how to ground and pound? Wtf.
@hexkwondo
@hexkwondo 5 лет назад
That's a laugh! Mark Colman was one of the first guys to do it.
@bobbyleglocks1992
@bobbyleglocks1992 5 лет назад
@Adam Irishconundrum I trained with the lions den way back late 90s. I'm 39 years old. I'm 5"11 215lbs (at the time) and I rolled with Ken Shamrock he was strong as hell. He's a good guy, but I didn't dig the screaming at people like military boot camp. But Ken had good balance and great submissions. I think Mark would have probably won by tko or Dec. But I wouldn't be surprised if Ken caught Coleman in a submission.
@sticknmove6202
@sticknmove6202 5 лет назад
Bobby Schulte Bobby I used to work at a fitness gym in Lodi,Ca and the Lions den was connected to the gym.This was back in the early 90s Frank was just getting out of Prison and tiger white was training there too.Do you remember a guy named Scott Bessac? He was one of Mens first pupils.A few guy visited that gym.I believe Jens pulverized came down too.
@bobbyleglocks1992
@bobbyleglocks1992 5 лет назад
@@sticknmove6202 yes, I do! There was another guy. He fought in superbrawl, Pete fought, and I think that frank did that night. Going waaay back. That to me was a special time. This group of guys not known by the masses but trained with each other and shared techniques.
@bobbyleglocks1992
@bobbyleglocks1992 5 лет назад
@@sticknmove6202 he was a bigger guy with a a mustache??
@Katzenhase
@Katzenhase Год назад
He lost twice against Fedor Emialenko.
@heldane778
@heldane778 2 года назад
Coleman was unbeatable in his prime. He was just too strong. The only reason he lost to Maurice Smith was due to overconfidence. If he took Maurice seriously and prepared for the fight, Coleman would've destroyed him.
@levedia
@levedia Год назад
if his cardio was 3 minutes better Maurice Smith could of lost from headbutts. However without the headbutts he woudnt finish Maurice smith. This guy blocks everything. At best a draw.
@ryanbartley8015
@ryanbartley8015 3 года назад
Def think Ken would have beat his ass in his prime.
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
Don’t be silly
@boffo63
@boffo63 Год назад
Shamrock ran from fighting Mark so much he never needed cardio again. lol I guess he knew better than to risk the loss.
@Leonidas3888
@Leonidas3888 5 лет назад
He woulda bet ken easy. Wish he would fight cotoure in his prime instead of that bs match post pride days
@marchowardsinisterexaggerator
@marchowardsinisterexaggerator 3 года назад
He looks like a white bill cosby
@TehUltimateSnake
@TehUltimateSnake Год назад
Bruhh I can’t unsee it now😂
@dylanharrington744
@dylanharrington744 4 года назад
I'm inclined to believe Mark when he says he would have beat Ken in his prime.
@kyleolson279
@kyleolson279 4 года назад
They trained together before Mark fought Rizzo. Everyone that was there said Ken owned him. Pride offered Mark a fight with Ken after he won the GP he turned it down.
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
@@kyleolson279 total lie
@TehUltimateSnake
@TehUltimateSnake Год назад
@@markcoleman1319 oh hi Mark
@rydinhi5864
@rydinhi5864 5 лет назад
No disrespect but Ken would have won in my opinion he would have won on his feet !!!
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
Nah
@pinfold1000
@pinfold1000 5 лет назад
Shamrock would have submitted mark easy
@jonathanreynolds5040
@jonathanreynolds5040 4 года назад
What??
@TheZom1965
@TheZom1965 5 лет назад
Is there something wrong with him?
@bar8665
@bar8665 5 лет назад
Got punched in the head for a living.
@bulldogneon
@bulldogneon 2 года назад
"no" lolol
@db3467
@db3467 3 года назад
Shamrock would have submitted the hammer
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
Prob not
@mojohojo4077
@mojohojo4077 5 лет назад
i like coleman, the godfather of 'ground and pound' but one of shamrocks lions den fighters put colemans 'lights out' as well, so im not so sure that it would have been so easy for coleman to beat shamrock. i think it would be a case of 'who was better on that day'. as they were both smart fighters, then the one who lost would have changed strategies and come back to win the next one. if they fught 10x, i bet it each would be 5-5 wins/losses. but pete williams flat out put coleman to sleep in this one, his eyes rolling back up into his head. and shamrock was better than pete williams. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XpBuFVl4YY8.html
@criselba2283
@criselba2283 3 года назад
Shamrock is a fake wrestler
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
10 to 0
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 3 года назад
Yeah I gotta agree Mark would of smashed Ken, but i woulda loved to see that fight for sure
@alexmarquez9639
@alexmarquez9639 3 года назад
Ken would have had mark tapping
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
@@alexmarquez9639 prob not
@sharktooth2888
@sharktooth2888 5 лет назад
That looks like my basement
@fordexploder10
@fordexploder10 5 лет назад
Did you take the register head off of your water meter as well? LOL
@markcoleman1319
@markcoleman1319 3 года назад
@@fordexploder10 I didn’t know true story
@mrbillyb1966
@mrbillyb1966 3 года назад
Frank shamrock would be a better opponent
@unknownentity2429
@unknownentity2429 3 года назад
Both in there prime ken would've won
@franklinjablonsky7613
@franklinjablonsky7613 3 года назад
The real fight would have been Coleman vs Kerr. Coleman would have beat shamrock if headbutts were legal.
@mrbillyb1966
@mrbillyb1966 5 лет назад
Better fight Coleman vs Frank shamrock
@fmthebaron
@fmthebaron 5 лет назад
Shamrock would win.
@keithfrisell4271
@keithfrisell4271 5 лет назад
Coleman would've messed Ken up ! Just a normal guy drinking some beers hiding from the wife telling stories of back in the day...
@rebbur1tew1
@rebbur1tew1 5 лет назад
Is it just me or did every time Shamrock had a big fight in Japan he got his ass kicked?
@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207
@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 5 лет назад
Well he was king of Pancrase so I guess it depends what period you look at.
@slicksilver9441
@slicksilver9441 5 лет назад
Mark wouldve beaten Ken. It wouldve been a high profile fight too.
@mikebivins5913
@mikebivins5913 3 года назад
The Hammer would have destroyed Ken Shamrock.
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