Try a quick and dirty resurrection on the 283. Pull the heads, check out the pistons and cylinder walls. Quick dingle ball hone and some rings if warranted. Cheap timing set if other one is trash. Lap the valves and go. You always have the LS as backup.
Dan the floor pan man I would like to see you take the 283 apart and see if you can just do a ring rebuild before you do the ls swap it might work I have done it and it lasted for years. Plus I want to see the 283 apart the suspense is killing me.
Don't worry what the internet wants, it's your money and your show. With that said I'd like to see you do a quick rebuild on the 283. Keep up the good work Dan 👍✌️🇺🇲
Dan, I'm an old fellow, and I'm saying just relax, it's your money, your time, and when it's done it's your 57. Just take a piece of paper and write down the benefits of doing the 283 and if the 5.3 is a solid choice, in each case take a clear look at the cost of each including driveline expense and availability of parts, and what you'll end up with it will help reduce the stress of spending your money. You'll sleep better and be happier in the long wrong.
Dude Dan, YOU are being that cool old school mechanic! You are taking what you have and are making everything better. In the OLD DAYS you would take what you got, clean it and make it better, than assembling to cruise. There was no buying all kinds of new stuff and trashing everything or to throw away everything just because it's old. You cruised and fixed what you had without breaking the bank. It's what made hot rodding fun for the poor or those who have less. Thanks for the video Dan & Dani.
Carbed LS... 283 with a basic rebuild. Honestly.. they sound good. I think the soul of the 283 would fit the 57 better. If it is too tired, then it is too tired and you can carb the LS.
Dan, I would fix the pea shooter and put it in the 57 rather than the LS. You know you can get it running on the cheap. Don’t regret doing all the work on the LS just to find out you should’ve just fixed the small block and used that instead. Either way I’m with you 100%.
I sure miss the days of driving to Speed-O-Motive, buying a $99.95 rebuild kit with rings, bearings, gaskets and seals. Then pulling out the old three stone hone and lapping compound and "Wallah", you are back in business! Good times! Best wishes on this one Dan! I know you'll get there!
Soak the cylinders with Marvel Mystery Oil for a week or so then get it running with high octane fuel. Give it a few heat cycles and the rings and valves should come around. It will run again without disassembling it. Brent at Halfass does it all the time. 60% of the time, it works every time 👌
Never mind the haters Dan. You’re doing an awesome job. I love how you work in that little garage and still get things done. You mentioned when you first started this car that you were thinking about selling it. I am in Ontario Canada and I think that would be an awesome hot rod to do a cross country journey in next summer. Keep up the good work young man. Like I said, never mind the haters… You’re doing an awesome job man. 🤘🤘🤘
My dad worked at Pontiac Buick dealer. 66 Acadian 2door hardtop 283 std .Off the car carrier pulled front wheels. Was ordered by the mechanic that unloaded it. A very happy young mechanic.
Dan. I’ve got a good running 283 I pulled out a few months back. It’s on my channel if you want to see it running. You pay for shipping you can have it.
@@DDSpeedShop I’m not kidding. You pick. You want a 2 barrel manifold or a 4 barrel manifold? I’ll even install a rear sump pan on it. (It came out of a 65 nova so it has a front sump on it now) Running engine. I pulled it because I wanted to install a correct nova specific recessed, oil filter 283 in the car. Only problem is I’m in Phoenix. Soooooo…… how do we ship it???? I can strap it to a crate and all that. But then what???
@@Aaron-vq2lc I wonder. If we put the word out…… do you guys think we could make a chain of fans? Willing to drive this engine north to Dan? Like a “hands across America” no….. “a 283 across America??” Everyone sign it and slap a sticker on it. Till it makes it to Dan……🤷♂️
Tough decision with the LS sitting there waiting to be used but I'm going to be selfish and say I'd like to see you do a garage rebuild on the 283. If it's going to take too much once you crack it open, you have the LS on waiting in the wings and can rebuild the 283 later or save for the next project.
Hi Dan, I would install the LS for the moment so the car is running and driving. Then rebuild the 283 to the way you would like it, when you have the cash/parts and time so that you get the original feel you were planning for.
Almost all engines don't turn over well with jumper cables Dan. Throw some battery cables on er and you'll probably fix your starter sticky problem too! 😊 Cheers from Indiana USA. Junk's Automotive
As many engines as you go through, why not build an engine run stand. That way you’ll know if the engine runs before the install. Seems like it would save you some time
No Brainer carbureted LS motor ! "Future Dan " will be happy! Any "sane" one of us that have what you currently have laying around at your disposal would absolutely do the same thing ! Sucks that 283 doesn't run . But you're doing this on the cheap ! Really Digging this Series!
I’m not an LS fan at all, I do appreciate that old school small blocks are getting harder to find. I have been able to score a few L31’s (the 96+ Vortec 350) on the cheap lately. Maybe look for one of those.the serp belt setup is really nice on them. That being said the carb LS is a good game plan. The cost of the ignition box has kept me from trying one.
Truthfully Ive never started one hanging or without a transmission hooked to it, but with it having trouble with both starters it definitely seemed suspect. Personally I like the idea of having the 283 in it, that being said, I have a 283, and power pack heads that have had some work done, and Im putting a 5.3 in my 64 c/10. For the exact reason you said, because they are the new small block. It damn sure isn't cheap making the switch though.
Dan that 283 was so close to running. You have to try this. Re oil the cylinders, carburettor clean or petrol and 24 volts not 12 also work the throttle... hold it open. Get Dani out to press the starter and you do the rest. Make sure you only apply 12 volts to the ignition though. That thing will run. When you get it running the other cylinders with low compression will come good if they have stuck rings.
A '57 Chevy Bel Air 2 door hardtop is gorgeous in any color, except black. You just convinced me to order a case of incandescent light bulbs. I love that warm glow. I was 16 in 1975. I had a '63 Nova SS that I put a 283 in. Way back in the early '80s I had a Mopar 318 destroy itself when all the teeth sheared off the cam sprocket. A small block Chevy, and pretty much any other car engine needs at least 100 psi to run, and 150+ to run well. It seems strange that it turns over so slowly with such low compression. I suspect there is something very tight in there somewhere. With compression that low, it should be spinning over really fast. Yes it costs a lot to completely rebuild an old school small block Chevy. But I love them. They are from my time. That's one reason I start with cars that don't need so much other work. I'm in Arizona, and you can get a rust free car/truck here for not that much that needs a bunch of mechanical work, but is otherwise solid. No it won't be a tri five Chevy. One of those in really good condition almost anywhere. I got my rust free 1964 Fairlane 2 door that didn't need any body work for $950. That was for basically for a roller. But it left me money to build a nice 390 for it. I don't really have to much of a problem with an LS, as long as it's carbureted. I won't touch anything that's not carbureted.
Ok, I’m mind boggled. Why is it that none of the you tubers ever bother to check the compression before trying to start an engine. ANY engine. On ANY channel. Spark, fuel and compression. The 3 hinges you have to have in order to get an engine to run. You’re welcome 😂 Hope you two are warm and dry ♥️
I fully support you doing whatever the heck you want to Dan. Of course you could fix that compression problem by bolting that blower onto this engine, what could go wrong?
My first hot rod 55' chevy that I had in high school came with a 283. My first engine rebuild. We swapped in 12-1/2 to 1 pop up pistons. A big bump-stik, solid lifter and a tunnel ram. For the late 70s it was a runner. Car eventually got a 468 big block and a muncie M-22 (yeah I saw Two Lane Blacktop as well) we also used a steel barrel ends to make the inner wheel wells larger and we lowered the car and it still has Mickey Thompson "Indy Profile" N-50, 15's under the car and they did not rub. Miss that car a bunch. Root Beer brown and last I heard it was maybe in Northern California.
Hey Dan! I was delighted to have met you personally last weekend. My wife tells me I was like a teen-aged girl at a Taylor Swift concert, LOL. Love the videos, keep up the good work, cheers!
Dan, my thoughts are we will all watch the 283 tear down video anyway. Maybe if we all watch the advertisements during the next few videos you will have enough RU-vid money to pay for the 283 rebuild
Classic 283 all the way Dan. I agree with the quick and dirty rebuild. $250ish from summit for a rebuild kit, new rod bears, rings gaskets, etc. Do a drill hone, with the stone or dingle ball, quick lap of the valves. Fire her up. You are dead nuts on.
I've been enjoying watching your process of thinking things through with us viewers. To me what you have available in your time frame makes the most sense. Everyone will enjoy what ever you do. but once you open up the 283 and know the rings are shot, probably bearings and collapsed piston skirts. Those costs add up really fast. Old timer once told me set a budget and use that as your ruler. Helps the keep the build on track. either way enjoy watching you work on your projects.
Please use the 1958 and later style side mounts on the engine, as they have many benefits. You might want to double-check your info about the single triangle mark on the heads. When built properly, Aluminum PowerGlide transmissions can be very tough, but yours may have the smaller, weaker planetary, as the engine is only a 283. This build is bringing back some great memories!!! Very enjoyable!!!
They run PowerGlides in Pro Mods, Top Dragsters Top Sportsman, and likely more than 50% of all bracket cars on the track today. Parts are cheap for them.
Iv been waiting to see you do a carbed LS conversion for a while, and I think that is 100% the best way to go in this situation. Dumping the efi stuff for a carb setup could very potentially give that LS engine a soul. If anything, at the least it should liven it up. Later on Id like to see a postmortem on the 283 and a look at what it would take to resurrect it on the cheap, it can always find its way into a future project.
It’s your show, money, time and effort, but I vote for rebuilding the 283 (the right vibe and soul for this project)…NOT ANOTHER LS. Totally addicted to watching! P.S. great tunes during the time-lapses!
The top motor mount hole on the left side could be used with a longer bolt to hold the fuel pump push rod up when the cam is turned in the right direction so the push rod won’t drop down while you’re changing it. Maybe they didn’t drill it out so they wouldn’t lose oil through the unused hole. 🤷♂️
im on almost 50000 miles on a re ring job ,ridge reamer,three stone hone check the ring gap in the cylinders ,lap the valves ,new guide seals and bearings and gaskets ,run likes a new one im very pleased
Dan, Dump that 283. You have the 5.3 LS and the intake and MSD. You have a 327 small block ready to go! OK, it only a 326. Keep the low buck build going! That would be a sweet ride. -Dan
A free motor as apposed to paying $500 to $600 is a win and petrol and oil is necessary to fire it up just like rates and power are necessary for a free house 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I'd like to see an "i do cars" style teardown to see whats going on regardless. With this being a budget build, I'd stick with the LS idea since you've already got most of the parts.
Do the down & dirty freshen up with the 283 w/ mild cam. Get rid of the 57s front suspension and slam an axle under it. Dailyed a 55 Gasser 1hr45 min to work when I lived in S. Ca in the 70s. That's me,you do you. Hi Ms Dani.
You tried the 283 but you have a LS sitting that runs ! Budget friendly is the LS and it doesn’t cost you to much cause you have everything already ! You saved that 57 from probably the scrapyard and it’s definitely not original so do whatever you want because either way I’ll be watching‼️ Aloha from Texas 😃🤙🤙🤙
Unless there's a real chance that no-compression can be fixed on the cheap (I'd love to see how), I'd just park the 283 someplace where I didn't have to walk around it and proceed with the LS.
1 barrel or 2 barrel carbs are the key to starting those old stored engines. Start it any way you can, run until the oil and the block are hot, hot. Let it cool all the way down. The compression should come around a bit. Put in car. Run till bored. Start all over.
Cool hat your sporting around there. Didn’t know Canadians had such fancy taste, but your obviously a man of culture with such hat and Thomas the train outfit! I’m jealous.
Bore it to a 301, Pistons, rings, bearing, power Pack heads Lap the valves, 350 HP Hydraulic Cam Gear chain, You got the intake, headers & Distributor. We had 301s with Power Pack heads and 4 Barrel and Fuelly Cam. Great 57 2 door hardtop and Old school Hopped Up Mouse. That's my vote, Mild Rebuild, Can not be $1,500, Dennis
Definitely LS.. As you've pretty much touched every part of the car it'd be awesome to see it finished with a loud reliable motor and maybe a paint job or a wrap with the DD's logo premoting what you guys are about. Definitely my new favourite channel. Cheers from Australia 👍
You have a gift from God being such a wonderful person and mechani. God bless you, my brother, Dan, and Danny. You're doing an awesome job❤ keep building those beautiful classic cars you are my inspiration, and you're my favorite utube channel
What's on store for today, Dan ? What will the internet viewers surprise be. Will you be working on a heavy Chevy , 55 .56 ,57, you know, I think it would be cool to add a 1958 Chevy to your collection.
Dan, the combination I told you will make the ole' 57 pretty fast and sounds great! Don't take the engine over 6,000 rpm or it will pull the pressure in studs out of the head and do damage. I tapped mine and put screwin studs in my heads. Starter tap than finished them with a bottom tap to make sure the were straight...
Maybe tear down the 283 , and at least see what it needs. Pick away at giving it a reasonable rebuild, and whether you use it now, or down the road, it'll be rebuilt before you know it, and you'll have a nice classic cruising engine ready to go. Another fun video.
Down and dirty rebuild fits that ride, do as suggested below with disassembly of engine, hone it, new rings if needed, lap valves , timing set and new gaskets you likely have a runner.
I would rebuild the 283 ..if it didn’t need bored too much ! I am just one of those old school small block people! I think they are much less complex than the LS lovers ! It’s your choice to decide !
It would be cool to have the old school SB in it. I built many of them in my day. The way I drove my cars they always needed engine work. As far as cost make the car run as you want it to. Thats called Hot Roding. Your building it to suit you.
Great video ! that poor old 283 is tired,i would do the lS for now and do a quick rebuild later on the 283, they had weak timing chains and gears that i remember ,of course the the rings are toast.prices have really soared over the years, love your videos ! keep em coming...
When I start an old engine a lot of times I will put two stroke gas in the carburetor , that way you will get oil on the Rings right away along with the cylinder walls, much better than a dry start
Those are 4 barell heads, power pack heads had double hump heads and they cam on 327's... They are the best stock heads to put on a 283... 1.94" intake and 1.5" exhaust and can put 2.02" intake and 1.6"exhaust valves on it for more power, combustion chamber is small, around 60cc's stock, good combustion chamber for power, 327-350 hydraulic cam works well with that combination. Use a 4 field starter for it because it will crank it over easy if has more compression. A stock castiron AFB intake works very good for the 283 Dan! There is some old Holley intakes that work well with it also that came out on 327's...
Force it to fire the rings will come around... As I wrote this you said the oil trick I was about to mention... If not dingle ball clean or maybe replace the rings and run'r ole boy it's a SBC it'll do the thing
