Marshall Amps Have A Big Problem

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00:00 Intro
00:28 My First time playing something Marshallish in a while
3:45 An interview with the CEO of Marshall
4:37 Amp Sales make up 5% of Marshall Group's Revenue
5:08 This sounds positive, I think?
6:04 Do you Want Marshall to do this?
6:50 Marshalls are actually kind of AFFORDABLE?
7:40 Do we need more bluetooth amps and digital stuff?
8:15 Second Hand Marshalls are PLENTIFUL
8:33 No new Signature Models
8:39 I don't see Marshalls getting talked about much anymore?
9:11 Victory, Blackstar, Friedman etc?
10:00 A clone of a clone of a Marshall
A ‪@guitarworld‬ article interviewing the new CEO of the Marshall Group made me thing about Marshall amps at the moment...www.guitarworld.com/features/...
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@208414 Месяц назад

The problem with Marshall is that they are leaving the market for quality Marshall circuits wide open to the competition. Suhr, Friedman, Metropoulos, Germino, Headfirst... They are making truly high quality Marshalls and modified Marshall amps while Marshall themselves mostly makes budget PCB amps manufactured in the far East for bottom dollar. If they started faithfully reproducing their legacy amplifiers with some modern updates like was done with the Suhr SL68 or the Friedman Plex they could dominate that market again.

@ErebosGR Месяц назад

Luckily, you can just buy an Origin 20 and do one of Headfirst's mods to turn it into a Plexi or JCM800. Other affordable candidates for modding are the Laney LC15, Monoprice Stage Right 15W, and Harley Benton TUBE15.

@kennethc2466 Месяц назад

"quality Marshall circuits" Please, which are those, and explain the circuit, so I might get a better laugh off your statement. I'd love to hear you explain why a SV20 is so much worse than a Friedman (B.A.D. amp, as Friedman does not own, operate, or participate the manufacturing of his products).

@fossilmatic Месяц назад

I have periodically shown interest in a Marshall amp over the years, but have always encountered the same issue. The legacy of the “everything on 10” cranked volume tone seems to dominate how they are perceived, and how they present themselves. Ironically, many players I like for a wider palette of less driven sounds are revealed to be playing Marshalls, but just as a good tube amp, not the legacy “brown” sound. Certainly their big selling point early on was producing sound at volume without turning to mush. In 93 I went into a new recording studio that had been set up and bankrolled in my city by some mysterious gear head. While recording the suggestion was made to try out some of the old amps they had. We went down some corridors to a room that was literally full of amps. There was a pile of Marshall heads. We fired up a plexi 100watt head. I remember how direct the sound was. No verb, very even EQ, very revealing. We went back to the studio and I used my 72 Twin. Once that was cranked it did a similar job and everyone was happy. Later found out that mysterious gear head guy who did drift through one day and said hello was George Chkiantz. I did wonder afterwards who else had played through that Marshall!

@illgottengains1314 Месяц назад

Wow what a sound. They would have sold 10x more amps if they put a master volume on their Plexi

@anotherheadlessdemo Месяц назад

I don't think master volumes existed when they were making plexis. We used non-master volume Super Leads because that's what was available and we didn't care. Also, tell me you have tinnitus without telling me you have tinnitus. 😆

@illgottengains1314 Месяц назад

@@anotherheadlessdemo haha no, I just see these lovely marshall amps coming out with no master. That’s the only reason I got a Friedman.

@geneo7054 Месяц назад

YJM100... Why Marshall never added these to their standard product line is beyond me.

@WyattBrown377 Месяц назад

They didn't because the plexi doesn't work with a master volume. A master volume only gives you preamp distortion, but most of the tone in a plexi comes from power amp distortion. You can modify the preamp to sound good on its own with a master volume, but then it's no longer a plexi.

@CaptainFantastik1 Месяц назад

Marshall's problem in a nutshell IMO is that everybody does the Marshall sound better than they do now........especially the hot rodded Marshall thing. They missed the boat and let everybody else take over the high gain market. If you want that marshall sound.....buy a Friedman (or any other boutique company doing it better than Marshall).

@honkytonkinson9787 Месяц назад

I think they know and are trying to get out of the market. Now they make boom boxes and amp shaped boxes for blues lawyers to park their money

@MrHitthespot Месяц назад

Have you tried the new DSL 100w. In my opinion just as good as the Friedman at 1/3 to 1/4 the price. I think Marshall is still in the game, but they are fading fast. Modelers are the wave of the future. Eventually newer guitar players will be buying almost all digital. Much Lighter, and the sound is getting better and better. I remember back in the 70’s lugging around two Marshall 4x4 cabinets and a 100 watt head, and then a 50 pound pedal board. And of course a 12 pound Les Paul. Now I use a 8 pound Suhr guitar and a Quad Cortex. Never thought I’d use a Modeler. But I love the convenience.

@cvo223 Месяц назад

Marshall has great high gain options (SLX, Silver Jubilee, JCM2000, JVM) going boutique is because some people think they're too good for run of the mill Marshalls.

@kennethc2466 Месяц назад

Friedman high gain? You must be joking? Better than a Marshall? You must be joking. Even Friedman's new amp is a CLONE of his favorite amp, a, wait for it, MARSHALL.

@Snoopdave2000 Месяц назад

I had a DSL 20 years ago . A laney GH kicked its ass so I never looked back . What’s different about the new DSl?

@azharkhan8796 Месяц назад

The in-the-room tones are so much better in getting a feel for how it sounds in person. This is very useful and I wish this was done more often. Thank you. See you at the HX forums.

@daniellowrie2289 Месяц назад

A thousand times this!

@Cottonrocket Месяц назад

I appreciate the time stamps. I’m not sure if you did that or if it’s auto generated, but thank you. Great observations.

@edlib02169 Месяц назад

What I hear in that interview is Marshall might be aiming to compete with Fender’s ToneMaster line. Digital versions of old amps, and a modeling pedalboard type thing. It’s not a terrible idea… but it would have to offer something totally unique. The price would have to be great. And they’d have to nail the modeler/ multi effects thing better than Fender did, or otherwise, what would be the point? I can’t see a bunch of existing Marshall devotees suddenly giving up their cherished collections of vintage tube monsters for a digital solution if it was half-baked. Even more than Fender, they would have to get it absolutely perfect, or nobody will be on board. The Marshall mystique is too strong to convince anyone if they don’t totally nail it.

@edlib02169 Месяц назад

@@HEZ63 Yeah, but I’ve also not seen much about them, and I don’t believe they ever sold very well, at least stateside. Maybe they will just update that product… but my guess is that they will try to compete in the digital realm with products that look more like the other top competitors.

@edlib02169 Месяц назад

@@HEZ63 Well, we’ll see. I’m just going by what I thought was implied in the interview. And just because the CEO said something in an interview at the beginning of his tenure, doesn’t mean that’s the way things are actually going to go. Look at all the folks who have become head of Fender and Gibson over the years saying something along the lines of “we are going to break new ground and innovate with new designs and exciting futuristic technologies” only to bring out yet another line of overpriced vintage reissues in 2 years. I’m not sure what Marshall really wants to do. I know most of their hardcore fans just want new versions of exactly the amps they were selling from the 70s-90s, and would be happy with them never changing from that.

@HEZ63 Месяц назад

@@edlib02169 For me Marshall at the moment offers he best and widest collection of amps than ever before. A DSL-1 is a bargain and most probably the best low watt amp you can get and the JVM410H is one of the cheapest 4-channel amps, you can get, which covers almost everything between vintage clean and high-gain Metal. If you are more puristic, you have the Studio amps but also the 1959HW or JTM45 reissue, and if you need some fair priced high-gain tones, there still are the DSL's. The Origins, ok, are not really my taste, but cheap too. And they all are much cheaper that any Friedman or Suhr. What more can you expect? If I had the money, I maybe bought a Metropoulos or Magnatone, but certainly no Friedman or Suhr, instead maybe an Engl or Diezel, but on the other hand, a 410H does this job much cheaper too, so why should I then pay more for a less authentic sound? But I anyway still am happy with my decades old JMP-1 preamp and my power scalable KT-77 power amp, so I hardly need any other Marshall at the moment. And if it is not hot enough, a Kaluna II in front makes it even sounding hotter than any Rectifier, Soldano or Engl, but still with a typical, authentic Marshall voicing. So, from my point of view, the best thing, that happened to Marshall was, that Jim Marshall died. Since this time they are doing a much better job again than during the decades before. The other positive thing was, that the Blackstar crew left Marshall and released their toy tone op-amp overloaded - Valvestate based - amps with alibi-fake-tubes separately.

@bryanwilliams3665 Месяц назад

Do a modeller and get the speaker 'correct' ie..Put a Greenback or G12H30 in it.. These speakers are the backbone of classic Marshall tone.

@user-iq4js7kj1y Месяц назад

How are you mic'ing the amp up? It sounds like it's more of a room mic, maybe the one you use for talking into, rather than something pointed at the speaker itself.

@malcolmevans2437 Месяц назад

I’ve ‘gone digital’ with modelling pedals. Just for fun while the wife is away, I took my old JTM30 out and dusted it off. Glorious immediate tube tones. Just used the clean channel with pedals and couldn’t have been happier. Come on Marshall, find your place again.

@erajad Месяц назад

That's a "sleeper" amp, for sure. I had a JTM60, and it had the glassiest clean tones ever. Its overdrive was too "fizzy" for my taste, but clean - wow.

@Gma7788 9 дней назад

@erajad Wrong. See my video on the DiMarzio P.A.F and notice how it does accurate Randy Rhoads sounds. It also does some great warm Les Paul standard types of sounds. You must get these amps up to operating temperature and then the sounds are vintage Marshall in style. It's not just about the valves getting warmed up, you've also got to warm up the capacitors and such components. It takes hours to warm up your compact Disc player as well. Fret buzz and poorly mounted pickups are more likely to be the cause of any faults in the sound. Tune your equipment and get the components warmed up and you won't have any problems with the Marshall.

@scozz6139 Месяц назад

The Marshall brand is legendary, renowned and acclaimed, on par with Fender and Gibson. Its rich and illustrious history is unequaled in the Rock genre, and many players want that Marshall badge on their amp. So much so that some folks will actually put the Marshall badge on other manufactured amplifiers, that are not Marshall. I don't know why you have not been up on things Marshall, only you can know that, but I can assure you the Marshall fan base is still dynamic and ever growing. That 5% number is Zounds number, not Marshalls'. Zounds is a huge company that makes many products, it's not surprising that Marshall amps are only 5% of their manufacturing. As you can tell I'm a huge Marshall fan, (Marshall Fanboy, lol), I have been playing Rock music for over 50 years, I was playing Rock music when Marshall, Vox and Fender were the only amps any guitarist worth his salt would be seen with. It's simply a Legacy brand.

@Yacykpl Месяц назад

What kind of guitar are you using and what pickups. In the beginning sounds like you are using compressor?

@christopheranderson2158 Месяц назад

If Marshall were to release new “JMP-1”-style tube preamp with IR capability, kind of like the Friedman IR-X and IR-D, but offered it with programmability and FX modeling to compete with the Helix or Fractal stuff, it would be EPIC!! They can take advantage of the digital modeling and IR needs of modern players while still maintaining their “tube amp heritage”. The JMD-1 hybrid amp they put out back in the mid-2000’s was awesome and I really liked it....I even gigged it and people were blown away with how great it sounded. Not sure why it never really caught on except the player market was still pretty reticent about “digital” until the past few years. That amp had a digital preamp front end and a real tube power section. With the digital modeling advancements since then, it could be even better. Marshall just needs to do better at melding the old with the new and improve their marketing strategies to rely less on the “Marshall” name, and more on offering products that make sense in to today’s players.

@xsteox770 Месяц назад

Would it be worth Marshall's time to team up with Line6 or Neural and have an "exclusive " digital suite there? like what Mesa and tonex did.

@TavaresProject Месяц назад

That intro was so sweet!!! Great tone too.

@deconline1320 Месяц назад

I think the keyword from the interview is "continue to over-invest". This means that business wise, they are spending more money than they are getting back from the sales of these amps. Usually not a good decision unless you want to maintain your name brand for the rest of your business. Not sure how long they will be willing to maintain that as the tube amp market keeps getting smaller and smaller.

@hakarl_ Месяц назад

That seems to be the idea. Being a notable amp brand is great marketing for their other products that have a better profit margin.

@RichardPerrymanGuitarist Месяц назад

I'm a Marshall guy. I started with an MG30 even gigging with it "a lot like 20 years ago". People thought it was a tube amp. Then went to a Haze 40 combo which was perfect "except it's heavy" and then switched to 2 Haze 15 heads "1 as backup" with a small light weight greenback cab. Sounds almost as good as the Haze 40. I tried the DSL and Origin (good) but sent them both back. Still using my Haze amps even though Marshall has not made them in over 10 years. I gig the heck out of them and just keep them maintained. The perfect tube amp to me would be "clean and OD channels, delay, reverb, and maybe tremolo". Prefer it as a combo with 1 greenback. 25 watts. EL34s. No other affects. 30 lbs or less. I don't do heavy.

@doctorskull8197 Месяц назад

I would love to see Marshall come out with a digital version of JCM800 with one 12-inch speaker at less than 25 pounds, kinda like what Fender does with the Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb. What’s taking so long? I’m tired of lugging cumbersome amps out of some venue at 3AM after consuming a bunch of adult beverages.

@VintageRadius Месяц назад

Very happy with my Friedman Little Sister after having owned a number of Marshalls over the years. I have no idea why Marshall doesn’t have both a vintage line and a modern line. Modern where they market anything from a “modded plexi” with master volume to new amps for the modern player

@Yacykpl Месяц назад

Another question do the new Marshall clones rust out like the old Marshalls?

@lebroucke Месяц назад

Marshall lost it's own train. It's by far my favourite sound but if I'm buying one today I'm getting a Friedman

@Gma7788 9 дней назад

A Friedman, wow. Obviously you're going in 1 type of lifestyle and missing out on all the others.

@Francis23777 Месяц назад

I love Friedman, took the best from Marshalls and updated it.

@bluecollarguitarist Месяц назад

If I bought a Marshall plexi, from a business standpoint, it would be a colossal waste of money. It’s a one trick pony (that sounds great) but you can’t use it in 99% of your gigging applications.

@bradpeel Месяц назад

Recently bought a Marshall JVM 410 new for $1599 after the recent price drops in the U.S. Hard to beat for that price.

@romixsoundstudios 24 дня назад

Do you like it? I ordered a JVM410h about two weeks ago because it was heavily discounted. However, I'm worried because of all this Marshall company merge thing. Their amps have been out of stock and discounted in many stores around the world, and Sweetwater said it might take up to 45 days for the amp to be available. It got me thinking if everything is alright at Marshall. It's been said that they are struggling to manage things, so I wonder if the new products will have the same design, sound and quality of the old ones. I just hope I will get a good amp.

@bradpeel 23 дня назад

@@romixsoundstudios I like mine. I used to want one really bad about 10 years ago. I’d play one at a music store. Plug in and it sounded like I wanted it to. This one does too. Mine is a 2022 model that was sold under the new pricing.

@erajad Месяц назад

07:15 "Especially in the UK... But for us guys, in England..." - or even in Wales, Scotland, or N Ireland! 🤦‍♂ But on your wider point - yeah, exactly my impression too. Marshall is a heritage/vintage/legacy brand, not in my thoughts as a "current" option. (I did really enjoy my JTM-60 combo some years back. I see they're now going for ~£500!)

@Yacykpl Месяц назад

Another funny thing to understand. If you read a tube manual from RCA their circuits are all duplicated by Marshall. Exact circuit required by RCA for tubes. Odd isn't it. And what about transformer distortion is Mercury Magnetics the way to go?

@michaelschneider7590 Месяц назад

You make great points about Marshall having lost its way. Another useful comparison for them to emulate might be low wattage PRS tube amps like the DGT 15. Some of us who just play at home might enjoy the musicality of a vintage tube amp in preference to digital, if built to run at lower volumes. But, going online just now, I see Marshall did a whole series of 1 watt heads and combos for their 50th anniversary. What that a bad idea, or bad execution??

@muzerino Месяц назад

The Marshall sound for hard rock is still my favourite sound in the entire music world. And that doesn’t mean other brands aren’t doing a great job of copying it, but they also charge double to get it which is just crazy for most people. And yes, digital is convenient and easy to gig and record, and I love my modeller for certain things but nothing feels better than a cranked tube amp for me. I’ll happily die on that hill.

@chrisdaviesguitar Месяц назад

Perhaps an update to their Code series might be a good idea.

@ianblackburn1018 Месяц назад

As Marshall fanboy + I gigged with Marshalls (Mainly DSL + then a JMP1 +EL34 50/50 rack) for 20 years before going digital for work/gigs. As great as the digital route is, I loved the tones I got the "old way", + G12Ms, or sometimes V30s. Never had any technical issues either! I'd love it if they brought out an updated JMP1 Preamp (+ pedal preamp, like Friedman). The OG was amazing with an EL34 loaded power amp. Also the flagship JVM410H is now 18yrs old. Still sounds great, but surely time for an update? I kinda agree when it comes to price here in the UK. I got a new Jubilee2555x a few years ago for less than the price of a Helix LT!

@jroobz Месяц назад

Marshall are amazing but I agree there's not enough fanfare. I absolutely love my JVM and I think it's an often overlooked or forgotten amp vs the competition.

@tiagoramalhais5493 Месяц назад

And in Europe a JVM 410 head is incredible value, 1300€ for a 4 independent channel 100w amp assembled in the UK is nuts.

@eoinjennings519 Месяц назад

I still want a dsl40 but have no need that is part of the problem. 100w silver jubilee available for less than 1k but who needs one ?

@compucorder64 Месяц назад

It's the other way around in Europe though. Really love my Marshall ST20H JTM 20 watt head. The 20 watt heads are more practical for most, and around £800. My JTM ST20H sounds great, and is built and finished extremely well - better than most boutique items. And at £800, was pretty affordable for how good it is, compared with Fender. And it has lots of useful practical features (good FX loop, 5W mode) But with Fender, oth, couldn't justify the prices of '65 resissue Deluxe, so got a Victory V40, which is more practical/flexible/portable and has more clean headroom. I'd still probably consider adding the Classic/800 head too. The Origin 20 heads are probably one of the better affordable practical modern amp heads, with enough of a vintage twist - they sound pretty damn good, and are very loud - and you can sometimes pick them up for £300.

@Chris_Nouvelli Месяц назад

I had an MG100DFX when I was younger. I should never have sold it. The other week, I went to a studio to rehearse, and the same amp was randomly sat in the hall. I couldn’t believe it. Had to plug it in, and it sounded incredible. Fast forward to today, completely agree that no one’s talking about Marshall. But that’s entirely their fault. What have they been putting out? Fender make guitars and amps and despite relying on nostalgia with their guitars, they entered the modeller world with some success. Marshall have the Code thing, which I don’t rate in a world where the Katana and Catalyst exist. I’d love to see them create a solid-state amp that gives the user all the Marshall sounds. Literally just that. For a sub-£500 price.

@DylanODonnell Месяц назад

They were a total vibe/trend back in the day but I'm not a huge fan of their amp sound to be honest. I'll always try them in patches nowadays "just because it's Marshall" and almost always end up picking something else.

@daviddalziel884 Месяц назад

I have an old Marshall AVT 100 combo . Obviously too much for the house but the master volume is rarely above 2 . I paid £65 so an utter bargain and the effects on it are decent but I only really use the reverb. The clean channel takes pedals well but I’m not a gigging musician and that’s fine as the amp weighs a ton ( 25kg) . I don’t see a problem with their amps or profile , Boss Katana has all the effects etc but I tried one the other week when trying out a Revstar and a PRS DGT SE . The shop had it on the bedroom setting half watt and it was crap . I’m sure it’s better on the higher settings and I’ve had similar experiences with small Orange and Blackstar amps , tinny and pricey .

@johnnathancordy Месяц назад

I see Blackstar amps a lot, but never really felt like trying one... I had an AVT150 head when I was a kid!!!

@daviddalziel884 Месяц назад

@@johnnathancordy I have the Guitar magazine with a free Marshall sample CD when the AVT range was launched and kept it . Never thought I’d actually own one , it is mint condition as the previous owner didn’t gig it . He carried the amp out to my car and it was only when I got home I realised it was the weight of a coffin !! 🤣

@geneo7054 Месяц назад

The YJM100... Why Marshall never added these amps to their standard product line is beyond me.

@davidjoel111 Месяц назад

I think what Marshall could do to get into the digital market is make a pedal to compete with the Friedman IR, the UA Lion and even the tone x. A digital pedal with almost the classic Marshall tones, JMP, plexi, DSL, etx. With quality classic Marshall cabs. A pedal that you can get any Marshall tone imaginable. It wouldn’t be innovative, but if it sounds good people will buy it, especially if it’s priced competitively with those other units.

@MsEsphorizon Месяц назад

I just want a jcm800 50w with a clean channel and a drive channel, each channel has two modes that can be controlled on the footswitch, the first mode is normal with a real clean channel and a drive channel with the well-known old jcm800 sound, the second mode of the clean channel is low gain, and the second mode of the drive channel to be modded, like splawn quick rod variant. Volume boost, master volume, midi, quality cab clone with usb option and option for my own IRs, effect loop... all that can be controlled with footsweetch and each channel to have its own EQ as a JVM and let them set the price as they want, I will pay How hard is this to do?

@TheArtofBlues Месяц назад

I wish the did a real reissue of the bluesbreaker combo. Like the 4x10 version would be so dope.

@tcoxy Месяц назад

The Headfirst sounds incredible. Australian made goodness!

@marcusmood4310 Месяц назад

I like Friedman for the Marshall sound. Dave seems to have nailed the sound and then some. I have a Runt 20 and it instantly became my favorite amp. Just order the new Plex and a power station. Can’t wait to piss the whole house off.

@garethsigrist8714 Месяц назад

When I started playing just over 20 years ago, Marshall Valvestate and MG amps were pretty much omnipresent. I’m not really familiar with what young guitarists are playing these days but you’ve got to imagine that Marshall have long since ceded that entry level ground to Line 6 and Boss Katana to name just 2. And at the other end of the spectrum, there a loads of brands that do the hot rodded Marshall thing incredibly well and at every imaginable price point so Marshall have sort of been left behind it seems. If I were in charge of the brand I’d be tempted to scale it back and really hone the business down but Marshall is a bit like Jack Daniels in that they’re such an iconic brand that is synonymous with rock n roll to a lot of the general public which means they can sell pretty much anything with their branding on it. It’s hard for anyone to leave that kind of money on the table but it feels like it’s at the expense of the very thing that made the brand famous in the first place.

@robertj1303 Месяц назад

I was going to get a Marshall Code digital amp their modelling amp and they do sell here in Asia. it came out same time as Katana mk 1. I bought the Katana as it had more flexible Problem with Marshall amps is they are big and loud!! I still think the Marshall studio JTM I cant get but I think it is a good compromise amp as are all the studio 20w ones. I tried the handwired J45 and would need a load costing another £700 and that is the problem with Marshall amps. So if Marshall did more other studio range I think they have a market.😅

@garrysimmons111 Месяц назад

I love the sound of a hot rodded Plexi / JCM800 / JCM900 on full boil. Used to have a 50W Plexi. Sounded amazeballs when dimed into a 4x12 w/ Greenbacks. Couldn't use it live because it was too loud for small/medium bars. Plus it was big/heavy. I'm happy enough with the Marshall style models and captures when I want that sound.

@Gma7788 9 дней назад

Boring 😴

@EWhite-95 Месяц назад

I think Marshall is like Ferrari in the sense they don’t need to market themselves because Marshall is synonymous with guitar. Ferrari is synonymous with high performance cars yet their biggest sales is merchandise. I’ve seen Marshall T-shirts in Primark you know which to me says a load about their reach as a brand. I get the impression Marshall just don’t think they need to do massive online marketing on RU-vid compared to Victory, Blackstar, Friedman ect because no body will forget them. I’ve played a good amount of the newer Marshalls valve amps and in a band tuned up they sound fantastic but I think they’re such a staple now people look past them, similar to Boss imo

@ogmakefirefiregood Месяц назад

I make hand wired amps. I call them Mars Hall and Marsh All. Respectively. Johnny Mar loves themselves. Mar Shall post a review soon.

@matt926uk1 Месяц назад

Maybe people are going for stuff that seems a bit more exotic and overlooking Marshall as it seems a bit boring for us brits. I think they are pretty highly regarded in the U.S. I bought a studio classic a few years ago and it’s a great amp.

@MrUmandMrEr Месяц назад

The Studio series get plenty of attention. Just watch a couple of demo videos and the algorithm will send you loads more. Unfortunately most demo players suck balls. You’re one of the tasteful players, John!

@toddstile961 Месяц назад

Never understood this term, don't we all like our balls sucked?

@Wingman52 Месяц назад

I think perhaps the whole Marshall, more generally, the whole huge loud amp thing is over. There may be some big acts that play huge venues that still use walls of Marshalls but even that is going the way of the Dodo. I read something about Mike Campbell (Heartbreakers) telling a story about how on stage they had walls of Vox Super Beatle amps that were basically props.. he was actually playing through a miked black face Princeton Reverb amp that was tucked away behind the Vox Super Beatles. I think with all the technology we have today the new smaller stuff and the digital stuff just makes so much more sense especially for live performance, and in the studio the small amps were always a better idea. Have you heard the story that on Led Zeppelin's early albums Jimmy Page used a small old Supro and a Telecaster? I have an old 50's Supro (maybe 10 watts) and a Telecaster, sounds amazing! Still quite loud in the studio, but the amp weighs maybe 10 pounds.

@benperry490 Месяц назад

Add about 100% on to your UK Marshall prices for The USA market

@MRxr400 Месяц назад

i just realized you are playing an Ozzie amp, headfirst. i was wondering how you got such beautiful low gain tones.

@twinklesirola909 Месяц назад

would love a good classic marshallish frfr cab from them.

@DreidMusicalX Месяц назад

I've owned a Victory and I really didn't like it much. I mean it sounded good, but there was something different from the sound I wanted. I've always gravitated back to Marshall's and where I found the sound I know and love. But being in the USA, the price sucks and we pay about twice the costs you do. But I downsized to two amps over the years. No need for 30 amps. Believe it or not. I got rid of my JCM800, Crates, Peavey's, Blackstar that I hated! and what I kept was a couple versatile amps that really sound great and cover a wide range of music. My biggest amp being the Marshall DSL100HR. Its one the the cheapest Marshalls on the market that when done right with a simple preamp pedal and EQ, that amp just shreds. It can be played at bedroom levels or stage. It also has the master volume on it.

@TheSizzlingBadger Месяц назад

Marshall Astoria, turret build with no PCB's they are fantastic but nobody bought them, why was that ?

@tiagoramalhais5493 Месяц назад

Marshall is like Gibson and Fender, people complain that they don't make new stuff anymore but when they do people don't buy it.

@Tanax13 Месяц назад

Honestly a bit of a weird take. Just because it's 5% of their overall business, doesn't mean it's small. They still move a lot of amps! And it's weird to compare against Friedman, etc when they do their own thing and usually for a LOT of more money. A Marshall 1987x is €1600. The new Friedman Plex is €3600. Laughable. Great if people are happy with Marshall alternatives, but IMO none of them are really doing the Marshall sound. And those that do (like the Friedman Plex), they cost insanely amounts of money.

@truthfactreality6814 Месяц назад

I have a silver jubilee. A Joe satriani jvm and the afd100 slash models. All incredible amps. If you want to demo any of them on the channel let me know. Cheers.

@RonaldBaldus Месяц назад

Today there are much more high gain anps that can give you more better heavy metal tone. More versatile.

@ironblast5 Месяц назад

They Need a new updated tube peamp something like the jmp1 but with impulses and effects

@philipellis7039 Месяц назад

I remember when Nick Bowcott worked for Marshall and he said the biggest competition was always old Marshalls. People like the badge, you can stick it on a skip (dumpster) and someone will buy it. Seems odd to me that they’ve never really exploited the pedal market. Those fat silver ones were generally well regarded but are very dated designs now and the Blues Breaker circuit is an industry standard but all Marshall have done is offered us the reissue and not something in a modern enclosure to compete with JHS, Snouse, etc,etc. The development costs of a bunch of pedals is probably tiny compared to the costs of getting into digital modelling and there already big players in that market so I’m not sure where Marshall would fit in. Anyway, let’s see in a few years if their new CEO was right or a random bloke commenting on RU-vid was.

@dscataglini Месяц назад

Marshall and Gibson have been totally ignoring social media platforms, and customers/artist, mainly because of hubris. Their QA has always been dodgy at best. They're so legendary that Marshall/Gibson fans don't want them to change, but if they don't change they'll see their market dwindle inevitably. I get great Marshall tones out my katana, hx xtomp, hotone ampero. (I own a mark5 as well, but that's just for the house) I don't need to bring around a massive Marshall head that is 2-4x the price. Their studio series is a step in the right direction, although nowadays people expect a lot more for >$1k. Add a DI with loadable IRs at least. Add a 2nd channel. Switchable bright cap, something that doesn't make it feel a "less than" amp

@ErebosGR Месяц назад

Their Studio series is as cheaply built as the Origin series (same PCBs, same components). They just add bigger profit margins because the Studios are "assembled" in the UK.

@dscataglini Месяц назад

Don’t get me wrong. I still think they are overpriced.

@tonystartup3817 Месяц назад

I don't really understand why Marshall are letting all these other companies come out with all their Marshall like amps - the Hendrix inspired PRS amps, the new Friedman plexi, various victory plexi types. And Marshall haven't been really there themselves apart from the three studio vintage models

@dannyllerenatv8635 Месяц назад

There are 3 current production Marshalls I would purchase now that they have dropped in price substantially: 1. Silver Jubilee 100 watt, JVM 410, or the 1959HW. Otherwise, once you pass the $2,700 range for a head, the competition is an absolute no brainer. $1,899 for a 100 watt silver jubilee pre-tax is more in-touch than the previous $2,200-2,500 +/- they were asking earlier. These three Marshalls also have spectacular clean tones as well.

@Tanax13 Месяц назад

None of the Marshall like amps are competing in terms of price with Marshall. A Marshall 1987x is €1600. Friedman Plex is €3600. Insanely expensive. Sure, it has some improvements, but that kind of markup is INSANE. Not worth it to most Europeans.

@GraniteSoundtrack Месяц назад

Marshall will probably be fine. The CEO recently came out and talked about how their priority is the amps. So at least in word they aren’t done. Things may go fenderish in the way they do amps and tones. For example Tonemaster and Tonemaster Pro style thing. But seriously the studio series amps are pretty popular and the DSL40 series was a good seller at the end of everyone wants a tube amp era. I don’t think you can write them off yet. Still in my opinion many, perhaps the majority, of the best tones in electric rock guitar history came through a Marshall.

@joshuacottington7225 Месяц назад

I used to have a Marshall Bluesbreaker 1962 amp. It was lovely, but it felt like it was bolted to the floor. I paid around £500 for it in 2020, as buying new was too expensive. I'm now with a Dr Z head and cab, still heavy, but more portable. The used prices on amps stops me buying brand new.

@Gma7788 9 дней назад

You're not buying in enough quantity to know what you're talking about or doing with the amp.

@riverstone5994 18 дней назад

Headfirst on JCordy?? daaang

@musicmann1967 Месяц назад

I didn't really like the sound he was getting with that Marshall. The midange was fizzy in a way I don't like. I like most of the tones JNC normally gets much better.

@RevMishka 26 дней назад

Sorry, but your comment that Marshall hasn’t done a signature amp since the Joe Satriani model just isn’t exactly correct: Marshall did a wonderful Bernie Marsden Signature model in 2019. It’s a limited edition model of 120 units consisting of a 100 watt modded 1959HW head in Whitesnake tolex and matching 1936 2-12 Cab w/Celestion Vintage 30’s.

@nudsh Месяц назад

Ceriatone alone is killing Marshall, they do all the hot Marshall tones better than Marshall. They realized long ago that lots of players are looking for modded tones from the 70's and 80's guitar gods. Van Halen, E. Lee, Lynch, etc.... I nave a 50 watt Ceriatone Molecular that cost half what a Marshall would cost, 1/3 of a Friedman, and it does all the classic Marshal, with girth and depth controls I can get near Mesa tones and it rips my face right off for the hot rodded modded Marshal tones.

@ryanteacher8134 Месяц назад

God damn does a strat sound good going into a marshall though..

@leonardofigueredo2913 Месяц назад

*Title of the video* My mom always said "I don't want problems, I want solutions"

@strumminronin Месяц назад

Yet no solution is ever good enough for some!

@colinrobertson4569 Месяц назад

I have a 77 jmp and it’s the sound of rock n roll. I think Marshall should look at what made those amps amazing and add the things they couldn’t back in the day. Friedman do it and John Suhr does it. Marshall need to reclaim their heritage to stay relevant I’m my opinion. Desk top Marshalls are not the way forward.

@trickfall8752 Месяц назад

I'm always dubious of anything those private equity guys have to say. If I lived in the UK I'd probably have a few more Marshalls. I think they should try to reinvigorate their digital and modeling products as that does seem to be the future. They should also work on getting their amps into the hands of young players. Fender seem to be very shrewd about this. You rarely see young bands with Gibsons and Marshalls.

@rinkydinky-ob9pe Месяц назад

By the time they make a decent amplifier I’ll have bought a Friedman plex

@json64 Месяц назад

I agree that Marshall quality is sketchy nowadays, but you play a mock strat through a mock Marshall in the video. All the legendary tones were produced by musicians that did not have a choice and they made it work for them.

@ErebosGR Месяц назад

All the legendary tones were produced by amp technicians who modded those amps, and sound engineers and producers that did the post-processing.

@QuickSticks8771 Месяц назад

Everyone enjoys HeadFirst

@2500BC Месяц назад

Or 2nd

@QuickSticks8771 Месяц назад

@@2500BC yeah I guess the order isn’t the important bit

@bsbyrdman Месяц назад

Marshall has the wallet to change things around. Do they have the Balls or Bollocks (for you guys over the pond) to make it happen?

@jimmcdougall9973 Месяц назад

Marshall should just stick with what they always did well. Valve/Tube amps and cabs. Their solid state amps were absolutely terrible, even for cleans. I have a MG100HCFX. Not sure where I hid the amp away. The 4x12 cab I use with a Seymour Duncan Powerstage, and it makes for a pretty good FRFR with my Kemper. Their little, 20w JCM800 combo’s sound decent on the RU-vid demos I’ve seen.

@dejct Месяц назад

Making cheaper products would only tarnish the brands rep in my opinion unless they pull off something amazing.. but I'm not gonna hold my breath lol. They would have to make some better than the katana or catalyst or something better than the other amazing modellers and I'm having trouble imagining that being possible but I've been surprised before! They should just make valve amps.

@bluemawks Месяц назад

Isn't Marshall's big money in selling t-shirts and keychains these days?..i'm not joking

@revolead Месяц назад

Marshalls are not great value in the U.S. A 20-watt studio reissue head runs $1750 (1400 GBP), and they keep going up every year, and all their other stuff is pretty much the same price as Friedman. I would honestly buy a Friedman over a Marshall because it'd be easier to get it serviced (I'm a half-day drive from LA). Engl is also super expensive. You and the other commenters are right that we Americans have better value in Fender and Mesa. I also think there is a market in today's age for a digital amp that looks and feels like a tube Marshall. I would love a Katana-sized head or combo with a Marshall logo, sound, and old school looks, similar to what Fender did for the Tone Master. Yes, the market is saturated, but nobody does a digital clean 6L6 emulation better than Fender, and I expect the same of Marshall. For a guy like me in what you Brits call a flat (but I own the inside), I cannot use a tube Marshall. Too loud under almost all circumstances.

@jcortlip Месяц назад

Exactly right. I sold my JCM 800 about 30 years ago because even then the tones I loved were at a volume that I couldn't use at any gig and I got tired of hauling around a 4x12 (I know I could've used a smaller cabinet, but nothing quite feels like 4 speakers behind you moving air). Since then I've watched the guitar industry constantly try to capture that sound at a lower volume in a lighter package. Interestingly those attempts have come from everyone but Marshall. Unfortunately I now think it's too late for them to jump into the digital space unless they manage to do something groundbreaking or different. As @revolead said, it has to be the level of emulation that Fender does or better to make an impression.. I too would love a Katana-sized head that gives me the Marshall sound and feel and gives me additional options for gigging or recording at home. I think cabinet emulation or IR's built in like some of the Rev stuff and direct line outs while preserving the Marshall feel and the way it reacts to a boost pedal in front of it would do well in today's market.

@jb-im1ii Месяц назад

...but that's a fault of the American distributor/ agent, not Marshall. Here in Sweden a SV20 is ~8000SEK wich translate to ~700USD .. the problem isn't Marshall....

@ErebosGR Месяц назад

Modern Fenders and Mesas are built to fail prematurely.

@kennethc2466 Месяц назад

You think a UK tube amp is a rip off, yet think a Tonemaster is not, when I can buy a laptop PC for less money. With a better processor, HD screen, keyboard, WIFI, bluetooth, multitudes of uses, etc...that will run the same SIMPLE DSP the Tonemaster uses? Made in the same manufacturing district in China, in not the same factory? Really? Did you not see the VAST warranty difference, let alone repairability? "I also think there is a market in today's age for a digital amp that looks and feels like a tube Marshall." -you I agree, just like there is a market for flight simulators, that perfectly mimic actual flight dynamics, feel, response, etc, of actual flight. Same as with the latter, the former doesn't exist. PS, attenuators DO exist, for cheaper than some silly pedals. My neighbor's 1987x, through a 4/12 cab, can be cranked, at speaking volumes, while his kid's video games are louder. That sound will make you never use a DSP toy. All thanks to an attenuator, and a proper tube amp, that holds it value.

@Gma7788 9 дней назад

Wrong. In Australia 🇦🇺 Marshalls are almost all gone. A total failure. I'm glad I retired from buying them when I did. They went up in price to stupid money 💰 and disappeared now there's only 1 mini Marshall offered for sale. If you're lucky. I see it as a dead hobby/business. The salesmen these days are just bacteria scum anyway. I wouldn't buy a can of drink from them. Things have gotten that bad.

@joeltunnah Месяц назад

Marshall's problem is the same as Fender's... they now build "tube" amps that look like a desktop computer inside. Full of flimsy ribbon cable, surface mounted components, transistors everywhere, half sized pcb mounted control pots, etc etc. It's cheap junk, and they're charging premium prices and banking on the consumer buying the name brand and being too dumb to know what's inside. I build my own amps. Get a Champ kit if you're starting out.

@PaulMcCaffreyfmac 13 дней назад

Marshall fountain pens and lighters. Mmmmm.

@freddiethefabs6920 Месяц назад

Does anyone else miss the '...obviously ' intros?

@jnh73 Месяц назад

Marshall is at risk of becoming the Blackberry of the amp world. They're so far behind they think they're in first.

@pads-zr9ln Месяц назад

Americans have cheap fenders, we have cheap marshalls, i brought a dsl 20 head for £200, a v30 2x12 was £100, fabtastic value

@macintune Месяц назад

Get Scuffham S-gear, run it into your computer and Thank me later.

@Johnny-oy9fh Месяц назад

It'll never work..the tube has been superseded

@neve4020 Месяц назад

Marshall will outlive all those new companies in the end… and there is a huge market for their old products.. same with Gibson & Fender^^

@ErebosGR Месяц назад

They're all dinosaurs staring at the meteor...

@IamMusicNerd 18 дней назад

Nowadays, Friedman makes better Marshall amps than Marshall.

@Bobyoudontneeemyname Месяц назад

Im sure bringing in a corporate stooge will turn things around

@Faydit212 Месяц назад

Marshall amps are Rock amps and if you cannot play any Rock music convincingly, which you obiously cannot, don't blame the amp....

@DebonaireDerek Месяц назад

The last good Marshall was made in 1983.

@jasonweidner3274 Месяц назад

The Friedman Plex/Suhr SL is basically the amp everyone has begged Marshall to build for years. If they really wanted to grab attention, building something along those lines but with a built in load and IR out might start tempting people back their way.

@Johnny-oy9fh Месяц назад

Anything sounds better than a Msrshall these days....they are outdated one trick ponies that sadly failed to move with the times...which is typically British

@michaeltaylors2456 Месяц назад

The real deal Marshall amp doesn’t even exist anymore. So odd

@Gearhart_Music Месяц назад

Jim Marshall died and so has his company...sort of. You can still buy Marshall amps, but they're just making the same stuff they've been making for the last 10 years or so, and yes there's very little actual marketing going on for them. Friedman is keeping the Marshall tradition alive.

@MrJackrockerman Месяц назад

Nowadays it is a glorious day for Fender amps.. Marshall seems a little bit boring .. Just a drive sound from the preamp.. need to play loud.. Put the master volume, real spring reverb or tremolo please .. Consumers will be happy..

@johnwebb2562 Месяц назад

I think you mean Super over priced, or you've got too much money. ?😂

@marvelharris9540 Месяц назад

Hopefully, if they do a signature amp its from a legit veteran musician and not a transgender political activist

@RonaldBaldus Месяц назад

Marshalls sound too bright and fizzy.

@timelwell7002 Месяц назад

Marshall amps have never appealed to me. This is because I only like clean tones, and have ZERO interest in over-driven, 'dirty' sounds. However, I realise that I'm in a TINY minority. Almost every electric gutarist on the planet seems to want as much distortion as they can POSSILBY achieve, ALL the time, and they are the exact opposite of me, in that they have ZERO interest in clean tones.